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 No.6736 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Kino thread

Post em

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 No.14508

File: a635f900c9e4f64⋯.mp4 (9.65 MB,3530x1704,1765:852,The Territory (1981) w aud….mp4)

>>14507

Now with audio which comes from the center image

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 No.14509

This thread has an unusually high percentage of missing images.

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 No.14524

File: 45275d4ef663b3f⋯.jpg (3.74 MB,2001x2500,2001:2500,1430515346795.jpg)

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 No.14536

File: 74446934591e71e⋯.mp4 (4.96 MB,2220x1632,185:136,L'ange (1982).mp4)

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 No.14573

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 No.6680 [Open thread]

What are your favorite giallos? What should I watch, other than Argento and Bava's well known films?

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 No.12316

>>12315

>The House with the Laughing Windows

I have that one downloaded but I still haven't watched it. Have you? It seemed like a good one to choose after you've seen most of the popular titles.

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 No.12759

File: 4e836b7ff7077be⋯.jpg (2.55 MB,2102x2900,1051:1450,delitto perfetto.jpg)

A wild Hitchcock giallo appears!

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 No.12767

File: b38d21768c78f14⋯.gif (924.83 KB,500x241,500:241,deep-red.gif)

A new article lobs accusations of wrongthink at the giallo genre: misogyny of course, homophobia for negative portrayals of lesbians (as if Italian Catholics take kindly to homewrecking dykes)

https://brightlightsfilm.com/wp-content/cache/all/design-killing-giallo-bava-argento-blood-fetish/

I'm generally unsatisfied when horror films are condemned as misogynistic. It strikes me as lazy and simplistic analysis: "The director kills women... because he hates women!" Deeper in the article I think they stumbled upon a better explanation:

Victims must always be enviable: either beautiful and sexy or rich and swellegant, or all of the above, so the average moviegoer can rejoice in their dismemberment with a clear conscience.

This fits into my personal theory that ghoulish horror directors "kill" gorgeous women as revenge for rejecting them earlier in life. Just look at pictures of some of those directors, what decent girl would date such creeps? If true, this is slightly different (and more complex) than boring old misogyny.

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 No.14537

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

As a curiosity I found a giallo-inspired Japanese pink movie - Zoom In: Rape Apartments (1980). I'm kind of surprised there aren't more Japanese gialli because it seems like the type of thing that would catch on over there.

http://www.dvdinfatuation.com/2012/08/738-zoom-in-sex-apartments-1980.html

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 No.14567

Torso

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 No.2669 [Open thread]

What's your favorite trend/era of sci-fi?
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 No.5629

File: 1442129098033.jpg (259.57 KB,980x1228,245:307,TigerPosterr.jpg)

maybe you would like Taking Tiger Mountain for a ScaryFuture film

the first four words of the synopsis sell it: " militant feminist scientists brainwash … "

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 No.5633

>>5629

oh, and it is based on " The Bladerunner " by William S Burroughs. verrrry loosely though i think. for some reason the Harrison Ford movie used the name of this Burroughs book, even though it is adapted from a different Philip K Dick book.

anyway i think this film is an excellent underground gem. way better than that steaming turd Alphaville.

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 No.5778

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my contribution for a strange old movie about the future:

Future Shock with Orson Welles

screened in classrooms in the 1970's

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 No.12170

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>>2689

ZPG / Zero Population Growth is similar to Logan's Run in aesthetics, setting and theme. The film imagines a near future where humanity is plagued by overpopulation, pollution, and other relics of 1970s alarmism (nuclear fallout, peak oil, etc.). Since the urgency of most of these problems has diminished, the film's basic weakness is that it invested too heavily in the theories of its time.

However, this film is still somewhat prophetic. Like Logan's Run, ZPG features an authoritarian government which tightly manages the life and death of its citizens. To fight overpopulation, the rulers have issued an edict banning childbirth for a period of 30 years. This "solution" mirrors reality a bit -- of course it's resembles China's One Child Policy, but also recent controversies where Britain's NHS made end-of-life decisions for a child against the wishes of the parents. Allowing domineering bureaucrats to become arbiters of your child's life is certainly frightening.

A dystopian film often involves a rebellion against the established order, so (as you can guess) the protagonists of ZPG ignore the edict and conceive a child. Starting a family is an affirmation of traditionalism, self-determination, individualism, and freedom -- ideals which had been cast aside to make way for the stifling conformity of their centrally-planned society. Logan's Run frames the issues in the same way.

Given the all similarities, I initially thought this film was a knockoff of Logan's Run. Actually ZPG was released a few years earlier. So perhaps it was an inspiration for the later, more popular film.

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 No.14562

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>>12170

Gene Roddenberry's Genesis II is another example of 1970s fears of a dystopian future. The story involves a New Age-y authoritarian

society where (among other things) sexuality is frowned upon as barbaric. And yes, the main characters rebel and try to escape.

I had never thought to compare Star Trek to 70s dystopian films, but now it stands out that the Enterprise existed in a utopian future. In the 1960s, stories about the future were generally optimistic. Space movies glorified humanity's triumph of science. Several years later, movies reflected a general pessimism about where things were headed.

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 No.14541 [Open thread]

Hey /film/, I'm looking for Kaiju Films from the Showa and Heisei era

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 No.14542

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I can't help you very much but what have you already watched?

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 No.14543

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Yuk Wud Jaeng Vs. Jumbo A (1974)

Made in Thailand with the participation of Japan's Tsubaraya Productions

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 No.14556

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A couple days ago Japan announced the name of their new era - Reiwa 令和

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 No.1908 [Open thread]

Thoughts on this film? I enjoyed it, and thought it was both enjoyable to watch and also had deeper storytelling elements that I enjoyed. I thought the ending was powerful, and I appreciated that some of the climbing was done actually on a mountain (I think).
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 No.9845

>>9839

Amazing

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 No.9886

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 No.11895

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I'd like to watch this, Au-delà des cimes which translates to "Beyond the Peaks"

The trailer has French language only

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 No.14516

File: c6718a4442d190a⋯.mp4 (11.12 MB,1280x688,80:43,Free.Solo.2018-1.mp4)

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 No.14517

File: 5739e1d481d29cc⋯.mp4 (15.27 MB,1280x688,80:43,Free.Solo.2018-2.mp4)

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 No.4398 [Open thread]

Hey /film/, KG's MoM is Hungarian film, I have only seen a couple films by Jancso and Tarr so I don't really know what's good when it comes to Hungary. Any recs for Hungarian films?
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 No.13789

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>>4401

>Szőts István: Emberek a havason

Sentimental social realism about mountain folk, in a similar vein as How Green Was My Valley.

It's an unexpected Christmas film too. In fact it's very Catholic.

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 No.13807

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Hungarian National Film Fund has a Christmas gift of 100 films on Vimeo until January 4. Scroll down for links.

http://filmarchiv.hu/hu/cikk/100-filmajandek-a-filmarchivumtol

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 No.14353

Is Szürkület going to be restored soon?

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 No.14514

>>4398

List of essentials according to the Hungarian National Film Fund

http://filmarchiv.hu/hu/tudastar/oktatas/diakoknak/alapfilmek

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 No.14515

>>14514

It seems like they are doing great work lately

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 No.14484 [Open thread]

1. Dni Zatmeniya (Aleksandr Sokurov)

1. Juventude Em Marcha (Pedro Costa)

1. L'Eclisse (Michelangelo Antonioni)

1. Nostalghia (Andrei Tarkovsky)

1. Walkabout (Nicolas Roeg)

6. Andrei Rublev (Andrei Tarkovsky)

6. Blow-Up (Michelangelo Antonioni)

6. Caché (Michael Haneke)

6. Celine and Julie Go Boating (Jacques Rivette)

6. Damnation (Béla Tarr)

6. Koyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio)

6. Memorias del subdesarrollo (Tomás Gutiérrez Alea)

6. Mother and Son (Aleksandr Sokurov)

6. My Night at Maud's (Eric Rohmer)

6. La Notte (Michelangelo Antonioni)

6. L'avventura (Michelangelo Antonioni)

6. Persona (Ingmar Bergman)

6. Pierrot le fou (Jean-Luc Godard)

6. Scenes from a Marriage (Ingmar Bergman)

6. Stalker (Andrei Tarkovsky)

6. Taste of Cherry (Abbas Kiarostami)

6. Through a Glass Darkly (Ingmar Bergman)

6. The Conformist (Bernardo Bertolucci)

6. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (Luis Buñuel)

6. The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (Werner Herzog)

6. The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky)

6. The Round-Up (Miklós Jancsó)

6. The Sacrifice (Andrei Tarkovsky)

6. The Seventh Continent (Michael Haneke)

6. The Silence (Ingmar Bergman)

6. The Weeping Meadow (Theodoros Angelopoulos)

6. O Thiasos (Theodoros Angelopoulos)

6. Ulysses' Gaze (Theodoros Angelopoulos)

6. Wild Strawberries (Ingmar Bergman)

6. Winter Light (Ingmar Bergman)

6. Woman in the Dunes (Hiroshi Teshigahara)

37. Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Werner Herzog)

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 No.14485

File: edc09532465c73a⋯.png (1.21 MB,1480x1080,37:27,Bakumatsu taiyôden.png)

Top 100 based on what method? Why so many ties, only a few differences in rank?

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 No.14501

Is this from a 1-10 ranking system?

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 No.14510

>>14501

Yeah it seems like a small number of people had some kind of ranking/voting system

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 No.10189 [Open thread]

Post киноs with the kids (leading) characters.

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 No.14283

>>10258

All these series are incredible. i've watched up to 35 up.

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 No.14439

File: 1a32f57587a699c⋯.mp4 (9.37 MB,704x360,88:45,Ne Bolit Golova U Dyatla A….mp4)

I feel like coming-of-age films could be in a different category than Kid Kino, but here's a comfy one from the USSR. A boy aspires to be a drummer while struggling with his first romantic relationship.

I particularly like the mellow groove here, music that's right up my alley. I still haven't figured out the name of this band.

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 No.14441

>>14439

That girl is cute as fuck

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 No.14496

File: 6f9c2df9049dc49⋯.mp4 (14.95 MB,688x576,43:36,Nezhnost.mp4)

Here's a clip from Elyer Ishmukhamedov's debut film. I like hos this delightful sequence is constructed, beginning with a rush through the neighborhood streets.

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 No.14497

>>10196

Tarkovski is quintessential when it comes to portaying kids in film. It is actually one of his characteristics. I'm at the moment writing a text about the relationship of kids and tarkovski's films. There is no andrei film that doesn't touch the topic.

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 No.14453 [Open thread]

Official production still. Ideally high-res.

Just no VLC screencaps from your compressed 1080p rips, please.

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 No.14463

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File: d1412ec95560345⋯.jpg (6.79 MB,2386x3264,1193:1632,BTSraiderswhip2big.jpg)

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File: 34e540db3106068⋯.jpg (1017.28 KB,2000x1334,1000:667,hobbit-set25-copy.jpg)

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 No.14464

Some more here >>1644

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 No.14469

File: d1f055ab1c8b04c⋯.jpg (695.56 KB,1680x1031,1680:1031,shanghai.jpg)

File: 48710d4c063f6a5⋯.jpg (170.32 KB,2100x1357,2100:1357,the-descent.jpg)

File: 11bdc60ebbbd63b⋯.jpg (631.67 KB,2000x1317,2000:1317,the-florida-project.jpg)

File: 3d12deb6c02b471⋯.jpg (913.6 KB,2048x1312,64:41,870891.jpg)

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 No.14477

We already have a thread, >>3582.

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 No.14481

>>14477

True they are essentially the same, at least close enough

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 No.14449 [Open thread]

Ran a simple grabber on MUBI and acquired ~1000 walls. Sharing here. Post /film/ walls.

https://links.snahp.it/8cXiqZCkX0f1nWTo2RQQ3LXr4CHjmPbbBum

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 No.1737 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Does anyone here listen to film podcasts? What's good?
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 No.13990

>>13983

Hey the america cinema foundation ones are good. The host is conservative but he isn't preachy and he does't reeeeee about anything left wing. He sucks the godfathers dick at every available opportunity at every opportunity. The episodes with paul cantor are great and interesting. He made me like breaking bad even more than I already did. Hes very knowledgeable about Shakespeare as well. Give him a shot. I learned about it through this thread and have been loving it

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 No.13991

>>13990

I meant to say at every available opportunity despite it being very left wing

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 No.14427

File: 27e0e37794c1a1b⋯.mp4 (7.84 MB,1280x720,16:9,zDqe9Fv-ocbqvYXq.mp4)

Russophiles Unite! Movie Podcast

<Every fortnight former Moscow resident Ally Pitts is joined by a guest to discuss a Russian film, or a film with a Russian connection.

Recent episodes: The Cranes Are Flying, The Diamond Arm, War and Peace (King Vidor version)

https://radiopublic.com/russophiles-unite-movie-podcast-GMN3Rj

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 No.14429

>>13941

I never expected them to not act like redditors, i know what they are.

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 No.14430

>>14427

Can someone translate what he said?

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 No.14375 [Open thread]

>Film starts

>Earrape instantly starts blaring into my ears

>Just sit there in pain slowly lowering the volume in an awkward fashion

It hurt but I have to respect the film makers audacity to earrape me at the literal start of the film, few would do that. In retrospect it was great.

What moments do you both hate and love in movies /film/?

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 No.14384

File: e7135dc17ba3310⋯.jpg (148.32 KB,1280x768,5:3,a42f2c82223078e530458ce808….jpg)

>motherboard audio has a history of shitting itself if two programs play sound at once

>start watching a movie with a friend

>instant earrape and clipping

>assume it's my motherboard acting up again

>test the film by itself

>it sounds exactly the same

>audio quality is so fucking bad I mistook it for hardware troubles

>resume movie and lower volume

>scene ends

>raise volume again

>mixing spontaneously shits itself and returns to normal several times throughout the film

>the director's next film has more clipping

>even regular dialogue clips

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 No.14385

>>14384

Was it a bad rip or a "feature" of the movie?

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 No.14387

>>14385

My second guess was the rip. Nope. It's just really incompetent mixing.

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 No.14416

<When shit film start good

If you making shit film, tell us soon as possible, so we not unresolved set-up because won't sit through shit.

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 No.14421

>>14416

Casablanca?

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 No.14389 [Open thread]

1. 2001: A Space Odyssey

2. Alien

3. Star Wars

4. Empire Strikes Back

5. Close Encounters

6. Revenge of the Sith

7. Prometheus

8. Moon

9. The Last Jedi

10. The one movie you think was left out from this list

11. Alien Covenant

12. The Phantom Menace

13. Solaris (2002)

14. Armageddon

15. The Fifth Element

16. Alien3

17. Return of the Jedi

18. Contact

29. Attack of the Clones

20. Sunshine

21. Gravity

22. Interstellar

23. Starship Troopers

24. Total Recall

25. Aliens

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 No.14408

>>14407

>make a list of good space movies

<doesn't start making a list of good space movies

How's I agree with having Stanley Kubrik - 1968 - 2001: A Space Odyssey; George Lucas - 1980 - Empire Strikes Back gets off-list mention for being the least bad of the franchise, a decent story, and a light introduction into the genre. I would add Андрей Тарковский - 1972 - Соларис, and 今 敏 (script) - 1995 - MEMORIES - 彼女の想いで (Magnetic Rose). Contact (1997) is a not-bad story écranisate, excepting the funerary flashback and the zeal of the inquisition. It's less a space film and more an earth+ film, where the "+" is the slight expansion of the bounds of earth (the social construct: the human, et al, world as based on the physical construct). Were I to class Contact (1997), It would be of what one might call "science procedural": fictions of people, working scientists, doing science.

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 No.14409

>>14395

Yeah, /film/ is doing pretty well as far as quality is concerned.

Not that i think a bit of humour is a problem anyway, just saying.

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 No.14410

>>14407

>>14408

>also, why don't we make a list of good space movies, instead of whining that someone tricked you into thinking contemporaneous disney makes good movies.

In another thread maybe? the OP already poisoned the well

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 No.14419

>>14410

I remember these old sci-fi threads, but they are not exclusively focused on space.

>>8769

>>2669

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 No.14420

>>14410

I suppose the only reasonable response was to stir up hubbub towards a legitimate list, leaving the starting of another thread for this as the only rejoinder.

>>14408

Just watched MEMORIES. Good recommendation, but I gotta say, the rest of it was kinda sucky.

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 No.14315 [Open thread]

I need some more hyper violent martial arts movies.

I’m on a kick antipating John Wick 3. Rewatched The Raids, Man of Tai Chi and I finally got around to watching Marantau and Ong Bak. Anything you guys could recommend?

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 No.14337

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>>14321

>Why are americans so obssessed with this cringe shit?

I'm the only American who posted ITT and I know very little about them. Merely trying to contribute.

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 No.14339

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>>14326

> A tad disappointing overall, felt less kinnetic than Raid

Figured with those films listed in OP you would've liked it more, damn. I was the opposite, I loved it, was in a stupid giggly trance when I watched it. The fights were gorgeous. Could've used more Iko and thats about it. Can't wait to see "Parabellum" aka JW3.

You might also want to put this in your watchlist

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6643972/

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 No.14342

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>>14339

>Devereaux

Ah, Jai or the director giving a tribute to Van Damme? Sounds fun, obviously along with having the top stuntstars around, but i don't trust the director a lot after seeing The Sentinel, but that's without seeing Accident Man.

>>14336

I meant the first one, haven't bothered with the second but i found the some still shots great.

I bet there's a couple of other great stuff around but i'm not as versed as i would like in this field, hope some others can throw you some more suggestions. If you want historical or essential data, >>14318 is an obligatory view, it possesses some of the most infamous executions, it's the main inspiration for one of the most famous hyperviolent products around and it has Yukari Oshima in it.

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 No.14344

>>14342

I liked Accident Man, but "Debt Collector" is the real good film of JVJ. It's not really what OP is looking for, but I recommend it.

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 No.14350

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>>14317

Thanks for the recommendation, I think the plot and characters were a bit nonsense at times but the fight scenes more than made up for it.

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 No.2063 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

ITT: Western films

What are your favorite westerns?
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 No.14305

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>>14304

Not to mess with the nest but the chinese started the massacres with the Zhao kingdom genocide, the main precursor/ancestor to the mongolian steppe nomads which became nomads in small-ish part due to the persecution and the literal worship these areas have for their ancestors led to bad blood for centuries, boiling the pot for mass-scale butt revenge that spawned an empire.

Also the classical Aztecs were already overthrown when the spaniards came, you are thinking of the Mexicas, which were the chimp-tier lower strata of society (including tons of small foot soldiers and non-nobility elite warriors) that forcibly expelled the older rule, hence why Cortez got overwhelming support by loyalists when he managed to explain his route of action. Aztecs were butchers but they were more about making taxed-to-hell satellite states with an aligned leader on helm, also never attacked the Northern tribes even when they knew about their trade routes and exotic goods.

You are not all that wrong, just wanted to point small details, even when your examples were asking for it. Although half of the injuns in the Mississippi area and Southwest were pacific (plus an entire age behind to be a continental rival) and had no business being executed by power-drunk brits, see the Crow tribe for example, always helped the colony rule and were vanished for being red in the Manifest Destiny days. These are cromwellian anglos we are talking about

While it is true Europeans have spilled some beans along the way, i have no doubt somebody else would've done the same if they were in a similar situation some other day, it just happened to be some moors searching for their redemption by their perceived homeland and later a couple of brits led by someone who might or might not have been a brit. Vikings didn't bother with some Athapascan/Inuit archers, Macedonians didn't want none with black jungle demons, supposedly the chinese didn't either with a bunch of Cahitan.

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 No.14306

>>14296

>bullshit

What's a succesful society for you then?

>That we are entirely superior.

It aint bullshit if there's a wealth of evidence supporting it.

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 No.14311

>>14306

Succesful society, at least to me, means minimal state where you can apply philosophies on your life, where 98% of population isn't walking trash, where what you buy you own, what you made you own, where others don't ostracize/persecute you for the sake of intellectual homogenity, where society doesn't greatly suffer from overpopulation and state isn't trying to brainwash you and poison you, but yeah, I guess we all have different priorieties.

Just that we exist as ruling race doesn't mean we have succesful societies.

>>14304

We were on whole different level. I already said that. I have no problem with romans wiping out carthago. And I resent that I kind of implied that every conquest is bad.

>Mongolians raped and slaughtered the Chinese to a point where the Chinese of today are more like the invaders.

Except they literally defeated mongols culturally.

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 No.14329

>>14311

Then there has never been a successful society, by those utopian standards

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 No.14338

>>14329

Ancient greece polis' doesn't seem that much far from it, except sparta of course.

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