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 No.3355 [Open thread]

As if the franchise hadn't already been dragged through the mud already, they're gonna give it another go!

>http://variety.com/2015/film/news/new-alien-movie-confirmed-at-fox-with-director-neill-blomkamp-1201436551/
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 No.9559

Ridley Scott says Alien 5 is not happening. does anyone even care

http://screenrant.com/ridley-scott-neill-blomkamps-alien-5-wont-happen/

>I don’t think it will ever see the light of day. There was never a script. Just an idea that evolved from a dozen or so pages. I had to participate as producer, but it didn’t go farther because Fox decided it didn’t want to do it. As far I was concerned, I had already done Prometheus and I was working on Covenant.

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 No.9562

>>3552

4 was certainly one of the better ones, I'd rate it higher than 3 and Prometheus at least. Maybe I'm just a sucker for everything Jeunet makes.

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 No.9563

File: 8e30ed033bbc060⋯.jpg (190.45 KB,958x648,479:324,NECONOM-IV-ORIGINAL.jpg)

>>9559

It's strange how absolutely indifferent I am to this, either way thanks for sharing.

>>9562

>4 was certainly one of the better ones

Really? I haven't ever watched it simply because I never really saw anything stellar about it. What do you like about the film, excluding what you have already stated?

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 No.9608

File: 04709b789acfd12⋯.jpg (287 KB,1280x838,640:419,Dan O’Bannon & H. R. Giger.jpg)

>Den of Geek: Where would you like to see the next Alien film head? Perhaps back to the more high-budget universe that you---'''

>Dan O’Bannon: I’d like to see it stop. A horror movie’s a fragile thing, and once you’ve gotten past the original, it isn’t scary anymore. So you do a bunch of sequels to a horror movie, all they do is drain any remaining impact out of the original. All of the sequels to for instance Invasion Of The Bodysnatchers, same thing; they over-expose the ideas, and when you look at the original, it’s not as effective as it would have been if you had just left it alone.

>But money makes the world go round and Hill and Giler saw that as the best way to make more money without having to do any work. So as producers with an in at Fox, they just continue to shove those things through.

>Den of Geek: So as far as you’re concerned the Alien franchise is pretty much played out now?

>Dan O’Bannon: It was played out after the first one, as far as I’m concerned. Cameron, in the first one, did about the only thing you could do, which was that he changed to a different genre, from a horror movie to an action film. But once he had done that, there really was nothing left to do. And they just keep squeezing the thing till it’s an empty bag. But as long as it keeps bringing in money to them, they’ll keep doing it.

– The Den of Geek interview: Dan O’Bannon | Den of Geek: http://archive.is/umPp

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 No.9609

>>9563

If you can get past the slightly campy premise of cloning Ripley, it has this French comics sensibility to it. Really cool set design and compositions,and i kinda liked the hybrid baby alien.

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 No.4777 [Open thread]

Is filmmaking discussion welcome here?

So, I'm about to buy my first entry-level professional camera. I can't decide between getting a Panasonic GH2, hacking it and buying some lenses or getting a GH4 with a single lens.

People online worship the hacked GH2, and I've seen some amazing results with it (Upstream Color by Shane Carruth being a hell of an example), however it seems that the GH4 truly is the future of DLSR entry-level cameras, with my only problem being the $600 difference in price.

What do?

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 No.7881

File: f468abc0421aa6d⋯.jpg (1.83 MB,4096x2160,256:135,sandboyscover4k.jpg)

Shot my latest on a GH4 and my previous with a hacked GH2

https://vimeo.com/179203602

SAND BOYS - latest. Two men who exist eating only sand - comedy

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 No.7887

>>7881

I will download and watch

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 No.8000

>>7881

Well done! First I thought it was 5deep9me but soon it all made sense.

The creativity of this project stands out for me. How did you develop the sand language? Everything looks great, especially some of those giant clouds near the end.

Your accent sounds a bit mid-atlantic .... have you spent time in the states or maybe watched a lot of american movies?

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 No.8012

>>7881

would you mind telling us which beach you used? it looks like a nice place.

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 No.9598

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Have any of you shot footage with a drone? I always think about buying one but I don't know if I'd have enough opportunities to use it. Thoughts on the DJI Phantom?

Otherwise post any cool drone clips you've seen

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 No.9492 [Open thread]

Does anyone here go on different chans? 4 and 8 /tv/ both suck ass, and this is great but slow.

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 No.9509

>>9508

fellow lainanon here, mainly for /lamda/

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 No.9511

I never paid attention to lainchan

how true is the ED description

> A site for wannabe hackers into cyberpunk. The owner, kalyx, has no standards - begs for money for his apple shit. Their mods are power tripping asswipe faggots (despite the site claiming they're not).

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 No.9514

On this subject where is the dedicated bunker of /film/? When 8ch was hacked I didn't know where to go... Endchan was totally dead for the couple days besides one other anon. I think that 8ch is heading down the shitter and a dedicated backup might not be a bad idea.

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 No.9515

>>9511

Kalyx no longer owns it so that's inaccurate.

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 No.9516

>>9514

The bunker for /film/ is on Endchan, yes. That doesn't mean I want to go there permanently if 8ch dies. It would be easier to use 8ch.pl since it's built on the same software as 8chan.

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 No.3162 [Open thread]

Can /film/ recommend some slow burners?
Something that may take a while to develop, gradually turns on the heat and builds to a nice climax?
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 No.9495

>>9494

Yes.

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 No.9498

Aurora

The seventh continent

Jeanne Dielman

Out 1

La notte

Le trou

Whispering pages

Vive l'amour

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 No.9499

>>9498

Which Aurora? Romania, Lithuania or somewhere else?

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 No.9503

>>9499

sorry, the Romanian one, also Sieranevada but I thought Aurora and Death of mr. Lazarescu were better>>9499

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 No.9504

File: f9b4b092094b8f6⋯.jpg (187.11 KB,800x1077,800:1077,Sieranevada_French_800.jpg)

>>9503

Thanks man. In fact I was just about to watch Sieranevada but maybe I'll see those other 2 first

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 No.5424 [Open thread]

Do you guys have a place to chat? An irc channel perhaps? Facebook?

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 No.5468

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>>5451

me2

>>5437

so, hows life treating ya

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 No.9500

Anything intresting going on here

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 No.9501

File: f1cc137f5d741ad⋯.jpg (19.45 KB,720x480,3:2,1493162420.jpg)

>>9500

Heading out but what's on your mind

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 No.9502

>>9500

Not much it seems.

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 No.9523

Chat Hint: When a person responds to your post, it is now your turn to say something

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 No.9468 [Open thread]

ITT: Post some of your personal favorites and anons recommend some you may like

Also, include your process for finding new movies, because it's exhausting for me, personally. where's the rateyourmusic for films?

Anyhow, some of favorites:

Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors

Like visual poetry. Non stop beautiful shots, interesting sets and background.

Persona

wicked plot

Face of Another

wicked plot, very creative and aesthetic scenes (especially the doctors room)

Dreams (Yume)

GOAT material, big messages and takeaways, very poetic

Child of God

another GOAT

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 No.9480

>>9468

Have you watched woman in the dunes?

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 No.9481

File: 347f1fd73fa2ef6⋯.jpg (69.1 KB,600x474,100:79,MPW-52989.jpg)

Most of the time I watch films by chance. I go to a list if I want to watch a particular style/genre/country

>>9468

If you liked Face of Another, you might like Seconds

As for parajanov I would like more ideas too. Countries like Ukraine and Georgia have a very interesting aesthetic. You could try Yuri Ilyenko and Tengiz Abuladze. I think both have been mentioned before on /film/ so I'm not bringing anything new

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 No.9484

>>9481

What style/genre/country are you currently interested in?

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 No.9490

>>9484

I'm not focused on anything specific right now. So I will watch things mentioned on /film/ or elsewhere that strike my interest

I thought about watching more Parajanov, perhaps one of the documentaries about him, but I'm disappointed to discover that 'not one of his films are on BD yet

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 No.9491

>>9468

>Post some of your personal favorites and anons recommend some you may like

El Topo (1970)

The Holy Mountain (1973)

Santa Sangre (1989)

La Danza de la Realidad (2013)

Brazil (1985)

Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998)

Akira (1988)

Samsara (2011)

American Psycho (2001)

Mononoke-hime (1999)

>Also, include your process for finding new movies, because it's exhausting for me, personally. where's the rateyourmusic for films?

Like >>9470 said, following crew/cast helps (I'm currently going through a Masaaki Yuasa phase right now).

Other than that ... psshhh Google-fu? Coerce YouTube's algorithm to recommend кино-channels to you? imdb?

Here's a list from Uncle Bob:

Intolerance [D.W.Griffith]

2001 [Stanley Kubrick]

Chimes at Midnight [Orson Welles]

Honkytonk Man [Clint Easwood]

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil [Clint Eastwood]

Bringing Up Baby [Howard Hawks]

The Silence of the Lambs [Jonathan Demme]

Crimes and Misdemeanors [Woody Allen]

The Trial [Orson Welles]

Short Cuts [Robert Altman]

F For Fake [Orson Welles]

Broken Blossoms [D.W. Griffith]

King Kong [Merrian Cooper]

Frankenstein [James Whale]

Bird [Clint Eastwood]

Othello [Orson Welles]

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 No.9166 [Open thread]

What is your favorite Asian horror film?

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 No.9168

>>9166

Is pic related a horror film?

>>9167

Gozu and Tetsuo are a trip. Have you seen Shinya Tsukamoto's more recent horror film Kotoko? Riki-Oh is fun.

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 No.9170

>>9168

Pic unrelated. I only saw Tetsuo trilogy by Shinya Tsukamoto.

But, films like Vengeance trilogy, I saw the devil, The Wailing, Audition etc. are welcomed, if you want to recommend.

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 No.9171

>>9168

>Have you seen Shinya Tsukamoto's more recent horror film Kotoko?

Didn't knew that one, thanks for the info, it's on the list now

>>9170

So does half of Miike's movies count? Ichi the Killer is a must and his collaboration with Park Chan Wook was decent, 3 Extremes was called i think, haven't seen it sober thou

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 No.9345

File: c78723e5346f3e5⋯.jpg (59.86 KB,604x400,151:100,photo.jpg)

I like stuff by Takashi Miike, Sion Sono and Kiyoshi Kurosawa. Shinya Tsukamoto is pretty interesting too, but I haven't seen much by him.

Pic is from Cold Fish (2013) by Sino Sono

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 No.9488

File: 01772a41031ab55⋯.gif (1.99 MB,500x216,125:54,RmWbIED.gif)

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 No.4692 [Open thread]

What are the best movies of the Neuer Deutscher Film movement? I already know Herzog, but what about works from other directors? Interesting reads about this topic are also appreciated

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 No.4698

Thanks, I already started watching some works from Fassbinder. Do you have anything from Kluge to suggest? What about Haro Senft, is he good?

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 No.4700

I haven't seen it yet, but i have been recommended Willi Tobler by Kluge, looks really interesting as well

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 No.4702

>>4698

I think Yesterday Girl is another important one from Alexander Kluge. It's more of a political film, somewhat like The Tin Drum.

I don't know much about Haro Senft unfortunately.

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 No.4816

File: 1433226122415.pdf (3.82 MB,TheNewGermanCinema.pdf)

>>4692

> Interesting reads about this topic are also appreciated

Try this, maybe it will help you

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 No.9460

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

New German Cinema featured on BBC

This might help anyone get started with it

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 No.9430 [Open thread]

what's the name of that foreign movie that shows a guy opening a door to see a little girl fully naked, gagged and bound to a toilet?

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 No.9435

>>9431

No, it's not that. I said it was foreign, probably eastern european or something. That movie is pretty harsh by american standards, but I am talking FULL nudity.

I saw a webm of it on Librechan before it went down. Even for a foreign movie, that's pushing the boundaries.

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 No.9436

File: b41025b699a1db8⋯.jpg (308.15 KB,1197x1600,1197:1600,MORT UN DIMANCHE DE PLUIE.jpg)

That is Mort un dimanche de pluie (1986)

Fucking French...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJOYp-UGsuQ

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 No.9447

>>9436

Yep, that's it. I did not expect it to be on YouTube, what the fuck.

Fucking French make me sick, I don't how the fuck they get away with shit like this, though even this is pushing it. Out of context, it looks like a clip from an actual CP or snuff film.

Just, what the fuck is wrong with France. You could easily do that scene without showing anything.

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 No.9449

>>9447

I have not watched the whole movie but I can't imagine how that would fit with the rest of it

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 No.9451

>>9449

How did you find out about it then?

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 No.9373 [Open thread]

Holocaust was not all that mattered in the war

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 No.9379

Cross of Iron

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 No.9380

>>9378

Thanks, I'll check that out. Could you recommend me more German movies about this?

>>9379

I already know that, but thanks anyway.

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 No.9381

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Tou might like Die Brücke aka The Bridge (1959)

https://www.criterion.com/films/27972-the-bridge

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 No.9397

File: 4404a10e473770f⋯.jpg (43.59 KB,260x475,52:95,8021429df7.jpg)

Obvious pick but how about Stalingrad? I think most people like the '93 version. I haven't seen it yet so I'm not 100% sure about the perspective.

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 No.9401

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File: 8742d217225065d⋯.jpg (21.22 KB,576x448,9:7,BACK_FROM__001.jpg)

 No.9332 [Open thread]

Hopefully you missed this board--at least a little bit.

Codemonkey was able to recover most threads and posts after the site database was deleted by a hacker. Some post elements are still missing but there are ways to fill the gaps. If you notice anything that needs to be fixed, please reply to this thread.

For reference, /film/ is archived in two places:

Official: https://archive.8ch.net/threads.html#!film

Internet Archive: http://web.archive.org/web/*/8ch.net/film/index.html

I'm able restore embeds by editing individual posts. Images with a /file_store/ URL can be restored if the same file is uploaded anywhere on the site. At least I hope that works. Older images with a /film/src/ URL cannot be restored because I cannot edit post attachments.

I'm disappointed that many flags are gone. Country flags have been part of the character of this board since the beginning. Unfortunately there's not much I can do about that either.

Perhaps you visited the endchan bunker during the downtime: https://endchan.xyz/film/ . We also own https://8ch.pl/film/ . For now these boards are backup options just in case things don't work out here.

OK that's it. Welcome back everyone. I hope we haven't lost too many people.

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 No.9371

File: c8d3e41319aeb5c⋯.png (309.55 KB,704x542,352:271,vlcsnap-00001.png)

>>9343

> 8chan's alternative sites are mostly about politics, video games and anime

This site is dominated by those topics too. I'm convinced there are a lot of other interesting boards on 8chan, but there's no way to quickly check them all. You have to visit each board individually. Since niche topics have slow boards most people don't even bother. I wish 8chan had a customizable multiboard - view all your favorites as a single board.

Also it'd be cool to see a notification when one of your favorites gets a post. For example you'd see /film/ (1) in the topbar.

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 No.9376

>>9371

I totally agree.

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 No.9394

I did miss the board, even when i haven't picked up my speed to post something relevant here, but

>>9339

>And it's on 8chan

After some events last week, saying this became not very good at all, not good at all in my personal opinion due to technical and moral reasons regarding the staff and their intentions

While i doubt they would care about us, share threads that last well over a month can get noisy for them, those who have lied and played with others to remove or even dox users

Politricks aside, glad this one is back

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 No.9395

>>9394

I've been unhappy with the 8chan administration for a long time. I don't want you guys to think I have loyalty to them, given their duplicitous behavior and general apathy toward improving the site. I gave serious thought to leaving during Infinity Next (which I hated). That's when I started making alternative /film/ boards. Leaving will always be an option, but I'd want a consensus from people here.

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 No.9398

>>9395

If anything, no homo intended, i've only seen you and maybe the guys at /bane/ and /polk/ being the only decent BO's around here, so no hard feelings perceived here so far. Quite the company too

This last event did bring a lot of heat in plenty of folks, some outsider boards revived with traffic, and long-term ones as far as i've seen (8.pl, the /a/ bunker, spichan did get some users)

Doing a consensus vote here might be difficult, for starters it seems we don't even need one due to the pacific nature so far. If we get heat from that one thread, that's when things get shady. Kinda what happened with the old painless /rs/ back in the day

It will all depend if a specific search for a movie redirects people here, which doesn't seem the case, i tried 5 movies from the request thread and the de-listing from Google works (only brings results when one puts the name of site explicitly)

tl;dr All looks OK here, for now

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 No.9032 [Open thread]

Hey /film/ I got a question for you.

What is the best way to get normies to not just like cape shit or whatever is popular for the decade.

Most people into cinema I talk to tend to have had parents who showed them alternative and world cinema and were exposed at a young age.

How do I convince soccer mom who's favourite film is titanic to check out someone like Kubrick?

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 No.9045

I'm just surprised "soccer mom" is used in the UK

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 No.9047

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>>9045

It's not but most people here are American so I try and use American slag if I can.

>>9044

Did that it was fine my mum likes the film.

>>9035

Kubrick was more of an example he is very entry level and anyone can really enjoy the Shining, I was more getting at how to get normies out of just watching Hollywood and a few very popular non Hollywood films.

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 No.9329

You can't, simple as that.

Most normies have zero artistic sensibility. Beauty flies directly over their head, as does meaning.

You could present them them with works of pure artistic genius and they would have the emotional response of your avarage brick.

Do not bother my man. Normies have no soul.

t. virgin loser

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 No.9330

>>9329

legit question

how can you enjoy an art film with themes of romance, love, and sex if you're a virgin? I mean you can admire the composition/use of color/lightning/camera movement but you've never actually experienced what's going on onscreen and what it is portraying, you can't get an emotional response from it, unless I'm mistaken

also I'm not saying virgin equals unloved or unloving.

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 No.9336

File: 8ae4f4a046187e0⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,26.24 KB,511x428,511:428,feel.jpg)

>>9330

Well, I speculate about how good being loved must feel based on my knowledge of how bad it feels to be unloved.

Also it's not as though the images don't speak for themselves. However I must admit that I always find some melancholy hidden in films dealing with love. So there's that. Now that I think of it, I can't recall any love film that was a pleasurable watch if not in a masochistic way. Maybe that's what you meant. So while I'm able to "get" these films in the sense of identifying positive emotions (only a total retard or autist wouldn't be able to do so), these images do not necessarily resonate with me in a positive way. But they do evoke strong emotions nonetheless.

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 No.8020 [Open thread]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB3fbtUYgRE

Here's his most famous student film. It would become the basis of his first feature film.

http://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-the-seven-star-wars-films-reveal-about-george-lucas

And here is an interesting article about the Star Wars prequels.

What do you guys think of this man?

Personally, I think that he's the most misunderstood person to ever direct a movie.

Every single film he's made has been worthy of study and interest.

From his earliest student films to Revenge Of The Sith.

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 No.9091

>>8041

Seems like everyone did, i heard the same with Serge Silberman, or was it Ran/Dreams?

Bizarre that Kurosawa needed any support from anybody other than publishers, taking into account his extremely strong reputation

Haven't understood the whole financing issues with his 80's projects, maybe publishers avoided him due his supposed arrogance/him being an old man

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 No.9093

>>9088

Beautiful. I hadn't seen that. Thanks for sharing.

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 No.9219

File: ac6dda9d3cf7f55⋯.jpg (377.68 KB,1918x812,137:58,vlcsnap-2017-03-16-09h33m1….jpg)

I love the art direction of the Star Wars films.

(forgive the bitrate starved screencap).

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 No.9248

File: c2d0f791aaf6035⋯.jpg (181.2 KB,1042x487,1042:487,lucas2.jpg)

>>9088

>>9093

It's about how man is out of step with nature in a bad way (we move too fast), but how nature is still much more powerful than we are.

Notice speed. The car zipping by. The camera focusing on the filmmakers in the desert (after it had been on the animals), followed by sped up footage.

Then it stops dead, and shows us the power nature has to wash away our works, and to turn out the lights.

And this was a STUDENT film!

I can't stress enough how overlooked George Lucas is as a filmmaker. It's almost become an obsession for me.

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 No.9260

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>>9248

I am very saddened we will never see what George had in mind for Episodes VII, VIII & IX.

Too bad a rather vocal part of the ‘fans’ caused him to end his film-maker career early, and sell Star Wars.

I suspect a growing number will begin to re-evaluate their opinion on him and his work in the coming years. You don’t hear fans of the OT only mention that ‘The Empire Strikes Back’ got mixed and even bad reviews when it came out.

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 No.4053 [Open thread]

I watch many films that most people would consider bad. I do not mean overproduced films that critics hate, like Transformers, but just movies that most people dislike for objective reasons. I think watching movies that are of lower quality really inspires me and keeps my brain engaged, thinking of ways to improve the movie, what the director could be thinking and why things turned out the way they did.

Isaac Asimov said that the best source of inspiration for him was through watching mildly interesting movies.

I believe an important part of being a connoisseur in anything is to consume a lot of shit. Do you agree?
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 No.9215

File: b2158d3ae204740⋯.mp4 (11.2 MB,708x552,59:46,Tinto.mp4)

>>9208

Tinto Brass? I celebrate his entire catalogue. It's more "erotic" than hardcore

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 No.9216

>>9215

WOA, NICE BENIS!

Please tell me this is what it looks and sounds like and this is the same guy as in "Monella", and he actually made a series of movies where he's a rich guy irresistible to all women with a 3 foot long dick. I want to believe.

Any chance you can direct me to a good download/torrent of all or some of his films in decent quality?

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 No.9220

>>9216

> Please tell me this is what it looks and sounds like and this is the same guy as in "Monella", and he actually made a series of movies where he's a rich guy irresistible to all women with a 3 foot long dick. I want to believe.

When you put it like that I can't bear to crush your dreams

>Any chance you can direct me to a good download/torrent of all or some of his films in decent quality?

There are 720/1080 rips of many of them. I haven't looked lately for sources

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 No.9225

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Trailer Compilations

You get to see all the good parts of bad movies without wasting your time watching all of them

I know of 42nd Street Forever and Dusk to Dawn Drive-In Trash-o-Rama Show

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 No.9226

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>9225

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 No.5421 [Open thread]

What would his style had been like if he grew up in America?

Do you think he would've found any success?

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 No.8017

>>8009

God how different my life would have been if this happened.

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 No.8019

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>>8016

It is a page from «Andrei Tarkovskys Poetics of Cinema». I sourced the quotation from Derek Jarman within a brief diary about his struggle to find money to make films in Britain. I like his observations about Pasolini that he writes about.

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 No.8037

File: 67bbdcb5671e225⋯.jpg (152.49 KB,1472x1130,736:565,tarkovsky.jpg)

>>8009

This kind of thinking leads nowhere fast. That you need to be in the right place at the right time to take advantage of a window of opportunity goes without saying. He took this advantage in the Soviet Union, but there is no telling if he wouldn't have had an analogous opportunity in the UK or in America, or anywhere else for that matter.

A biography can't be separated from its circumstances so it's stupid to try to seriously simulate stuff like this. The variables will grow exponentially the more you dig in.

For one, it would be highly unlikely for him to soak Orthodox spirituality as a Westerner - he would have had different thematic interests. He would have also studied editing from a different academic perspective and likely never arrive at his time-sculpting theory. He would have different political concerns.

But then there's no telling if this fantasy upbringing would have given him the tools to start a career in film specifically, as opposed to medicine or editorial work. After all, he would have had different childhood role models, influences and hobbies. He would have applied to different schools.

Tldr: stupid.

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 No.8038

Reading the context I think Jarman was being less serious than that standalone sentence makes it sound

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 No.9181

File: 28eecaedf8e5e16⋯.jpg (61.07 KB,1000x813,1000:813,79.jpg)

Old bump. Well there is no definitive answer to your question.His work is absolutely saturated in Russian culture and the more natural places that he grew up in. Would his films still have that poetic quality? Probably but I wouldn't be surprised if he dealt with different themes, or better said similar themes in vastly different circumstances. Andrei Rublev (or any of his films) would not exist, and I have really no idea what would be in their place. He would still have been able to find funding just based on his talent and visual eye, and I do believe that he would have found success, although maybe not to the degree of his Soviet career.

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