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 No.2067

What does /film/ think of Cassavetes?

Hack or no?
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 No.2099

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For whatever reason I've never bothered to watch anything he directed.

But he's kind of a goofball as an actor, especially in The Killers. I was sold on Lee Marvin but ended up with this guy for most of the movie.
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 No.2178

I need to watch his films I been going thru various filmography of various director and I've yet to touch him but will do so in the near future
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 No.2260

Of course not. All the movies he made starring Gena Rowlands are great, specially A woman under the influence.
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 No.2264

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>>2260
A Woman Under The Influence is fucking great. I've only seen that and Love Streams, which I didn't like very much, but I think Cassavetes is a fine filmmaker. He's definitely an artists that does what he wants, which grants a certain amount of base respect whether you like what he does or not.
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 No.4169

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Cassavetes was pretty entertaining in Etude in Black, a Columbo episode I just watched. Apparently Falk and Cassavetes were friends.

I can't see taking that show too seriously though. It's all a little silly. Columbo uses evidence tampering, warrantless searches, and subversion of spousal privilege to make discoveries you see coming a mile away. Any marginally competent lawyer would have these cases thrown right out of court.
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 No.4170

>>2264
The killing of a Chinese Bookie was decent.
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 No.4171

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>>4169
Watch this interview it is hilarious.

drugs..mmkay!
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 No.4172

>>4171
whoa, that's a wild interview
never saw it before
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 No.4173

Gena Rowlands is 84 and still acting
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 No.4298

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How about the kids?

This made a big impact on me when I watched it several years ago
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 No.4956

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I've only seen about 15 minutes of Chinese Bookie and wasn't grabbed by it. But I'm going to watch his filmography in order.

So Shadows has that great b&w NY underground vibe found in early Kubrick, Robert Downey and Blast of Silence. I was confused by the casting though. By all obvious appearances the siblings were not blood relatives. But many scenes make more sense if they were. If anyone has seen it, what's your take?

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 No.4957

>>4956

Shadows is probably my least favorite of his good films. The easiest place to start I think is Woman under the influence, which I think is without a doubt his best film. Most of Cassavates filmography I think is worth watching simply for the sincere picture and spirit of American life he provides of those times which I think few narrative directors of any country have been able to accomplish as well as he did.

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 No.4963

Hack?

Who the fuck would ever consider his work hackneyed?

Do you know what that word means?

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 No.4968

>>4956

I believe they are mulattos. Some of them look whiter, like Ben and Leila. But all of them have some feature, Ben's curly hair and Leila's eyebrows/nose shape, that give them an ethnic look.

The best parts of Cassavetes are the dialogue, while called realistic is more like a 'weirder' working class kind of speech that is even more disjointed and humorous because of hard cuts in editing and the very free camera movements. Good director.

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 No.4969

>>4957

> Shadows is probably my least favorite of his good films.

Are his next two better? I kind of liked Shadows but I'm tempted to skip ahead to Faces.

>>4968

> I believe they are mulattos.

I thought the girl looked Mediterranean while the singer resembled Miles Davis. So there was a big range in their family. But I agree the story only has impact if they are all mullato, even if it didn't read that way.

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 No.4970

>>4969

Too Late Blues is an anomaly because it lacks any sense of the 'underground' style he is known for. It's a conventional film. Haven't seen a Child is Waiting.

Faces is good though, if you like the atmospheres he creates. It's not about young people though, so it's definitely not as jazzy.

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 No.5064

Read Cassavetes on Cassavetes. It really is great.

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 No.9476

>>4970

A Child is Waiting is pretty weak, but the studios tampered with the film in both production and post.

I'm not a huge fan of Cassavetes or his work. His films contain minute amounts of truth but he neevr really gets anything meaningful. Acting and dialogue of course are great. Did anyone else think that Faces is really annoying just because of the people? If you cut out the incessant laughing in the film it would have been 5-10 minutes shorter. The last shot is patrician though.

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 No.9635

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wtf now i'm really confused

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 No.9760

Hack? Cassavetes was a fucking GOD. Love Streams, Woman Under the Influence, Faces, Killing of a Chinese Bookie. Four masterpieces right there alone.

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