No.2669
What's your favorite trend/era of sci-fi?
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No.2670
50's to the late 70's.
Newer stuff over relies on CGI way too much for me to become immersed.
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No.2687
>>2670This. I'd say the 60's and 70's were the glory days of imagining what our future in space would be like. They had, if I may, the best future.
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No.2689
I'm torn on 70s sci-fi. There are undoubtedly classic films from the era - Solaris, Alien, Clockwork Orange, Stalker (if that counts). But often the dystopian stuff (like Logan's Run, Rollerball, Omega Man) doesn't quite work with me. Solid ideas but the execution doesn't always pan out. Maybe they tried to be too ponderous?
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No.2690
>>2689One thing Logan's Run did really well was the laser guns they used on top of all the miniature special effects. It seems that ever since Star Wars laser beams were painted on in post production with a horrible distinctive sound, effects from 1976 actually seem more plausible compared to the newer stuff.
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No.2691
>>2690Yeah, it's still entertaining to watch what was attempted in these productions, both in the ideas they wanted to convey and in their approach to special effects.
Some effects even get more interesting the farther you go back. For example, certain effect sequences in silents can be like witnessing a strange lost art.
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No.4120
I've dabbled in Soviet sci-fi lately. It's certainly interesting, some of it has more of an industrial feel.
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No.4939
>>4120
I'm gonna take a moment to just fanboy all over Metropolis.
It's amazing and a classic.
Okay there I'm done.
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No.4943
>>4120
This looks pretty cool. What is it, and what Soviet Sci-fi is worth seeing?
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No.4945
>>4943
I'm not him, but that picture is from Kin Dza Dza.
Letters from a Dead Man and Visitor to a Museum are worth seeing too (nuclear fallout related).
And one of the best silent sci-fi films is Aelita: Queen of Mars.
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No.4946
>>2689
i love logan's run, dude. that film, Zardoz and Phantasm are a holy trinity for me, just wonderful completely absurd scifi, I love it so much
if anyone can recommend me unknown gems similar to these films (especially Zardoz) please do share
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No.5523
>>4945
>nuclear fallout
O-Bi, O-Ba: The End of Civilization (1985) is a little like those Lopushanskiy films but with a slicker production
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No.5524
>>5523
hell yes dude, great director Piotr Szulkin. if you haven't seen his other films definitely see them.
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No.5526
>>5524
I've only seen one of his films so far
but it's hard to argue with these fantastic Polish posters
I'd like to buy some of them
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No.5539
>>5526
those are the other three of his I've seen and they're all great stuff. they all basically do the same thing, which is to describe the hell of living in communist dystopia, and man do they do it well, and I love the scifi settings
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No.5541
>>5539
I liked the passing mention of Calhoun's study of the behavioral sink of mice populations
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1501789/pdf/califmed00143-0080.pdf
And there seemed to be something about hard vs. fiat currency. I don't think I've seen that issue addressed in a movie before.
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No.5556
>>2687
I like retro-futurism a lot. It's all about the cool creative design ideas. There's some overlap with dystopian films and others mentioned ITT. A lot of anime qualifies too.
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No.5576
>>5556
> retro-futurism
Have you seen Just Imagine? It's a slightly comedic version of 1980 as envisioned by 1930. The movie packs in a lot of "stuff" (a love triangle, space travel, song and dance, a goofy Swede) so the focus keeps changing, but you might like it anyway.
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No.5629
maybe you would like Taking Tiger Mountain for a ScaryFuture film
the first four words of the synopsis sell it: " militant feminist scientists brainwash … "
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No.5633
>>5629
oh, and it is based on " The Bladerunner " by William S Burroughs. verrrry loosely though i think. for some reason the Harrison Ford movie used the name of this Burroughs book, even though it is adapted from a different Philip K Dick book.
anyway i think this film is an excellent underground gem. way better than that steaming turd Alphaville.
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No.5778
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
my contribution for a strange old movie about the future:
Future Shock with Orson Welles
screened in classrooms in the 1970's
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No.12170
>>2689
ZPG / Zero Population Growth is similar to Logan's Run in aesthetics, setting and theme. The film imagines a near future where humanity is plagued by overpopulation, pollution, and other relics of 1970s alarmism (nuclear fallout, peak oil, etc.). Since the urgency of most of these problems has diminished, the film's basic weakness is that it invested too heavily in the theories of its time.
However, this film is still somewhat prophetic. Like Logan's Run, ZPG features an authoritarian government which tightly manages the life and death of its citizens. To fight overpopulation, the rulers have issued an edict banning childbirth for a period of 30 years. This "solution" mirrors reality a bit -- of course it's resembles China's One Child Policy, but also recent controversies where Britain's NHS made end-of-life decisions for a child against the wishes of the parents. Allowing domineering bureaucrats to become arbiters of your child's life is certainly frightening.
A dystopian film often involves a rebellion against the established order, so (as you can guess) the protagonists of ZPG ignore the edict and conceive a child. Starting a family is an affirmation of traditionalism, self-determination, individualism, and freedom -- ideals which had been cast aside to make way for the stifling conformity of their centrally-planned society. Logan's Run frames the issues in the same way.
Given the all similarities, I initially thought this film was a knockoff of Logan's Run. Actually ZPG was released a few years earlier. So perhaps it was an inspiration for the later, more popular film.
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No.14562
>>12170
Gene Roddenberry's Genesis II is another example of 1970s fears of a dystopian future. The story involves a New Age-y authoritarian
society where (among other things) sexuality is frowned upon as barbaric. And yes, the main characters rebel and try to escape.
I had never thought to compare Star Trek to 70s dystopian films, but now it stands out that the Enterprise existed in a utopian future. In the 1960s, stories about the future were generally optimistic. Space movies glorified humanity's triumph of science. Several years later, movies reflected a general pessimism about where things were headed.
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