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 No.17815 [Open Thread]

Under the 12 step model, resentments fuel relapses. Steps 4 and 10 are about removing or at least processing those resentments, which increase your faith in a higher power. Maybe you don't have a lot of amends (steps 8 and 9) to make over fapping, but maybe you owe amends to yourself for wasted time and potential. Once you start praying and meditating (step 11) you may find yourself in a position to start helping others nofap (step 12).

Perhaps you are not entirely powerless to avoid fapping, but if you find yourself relapsing often, you can probably admit powerlessness over the urge to keep going once you cave in the first time, and some degree of powerless over the stimuli that you encounter. If you have any faith in a power greater than yourself, you can increase your connection to that higher power by turning your will over to it (which can be as simple as the spirituality of two people helping each other resist the urge to fap).

I know many people don't like the 12 steps because of the word "God" but in the 12 steps any conception of God will do and it seems like there are at least some believers in here. Sex Addicts Anonymous is a 12 step fellowship for compulsive fappers and other sex addicts.

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 No.17903

Amen, brother. A strength of SAA is it can give you healthy relationships with other men, to make up for the probably shitty relationship you had with your father.

Also this is truth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6oOZbcvLY4

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 No.12400 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

yo yo yo this is day 8 of COMPLETE NO FAP NO PORN NO SOFT PORN nO THING and I FEEL LIKE I CAN KILL SOME ONE RIGHT NOW. WHo else is on day 8?

NO FAP 4 LIFE

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 No.17623

>>17622

How do you lose interest in a thing that you don't need to do anything for?

Just keep going if it's easy.

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 No.17704

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 No.17767

keeping your virginity becomes an actual thing once you stop fapping

for me, I just had to start taking care of my body

still haven't quit porn yet, day 2 tbh

I stopped fapping as much after I broke ties with all "friends" who kept talking about their (positive) views on porn, which is an essential in breaking any addictive habit (which is in this case, more addictive than meth and more widely available

>>12403

ohh I've been there

try not to go schizo and shoot up a gay bar, anon

>>12410

do at least meditation habitually, you bitch

>>12419

most headaches are caused by something you ate, unless it's all the coom that is normally released several times a day

u coombrain

>>12422

the testosterone high goes back down after the 7th day, try not to get discouraged by that (it comes back stronger after 30 days, permanently)

>>12425

>it makes me hornier

being less healthy makes you weaker, stop being a bitch boy and learn to deal with having strong emotions

>>12435

I at least admire your resolve

>>12495

>cow's milk contains phytoestrogens

>>12668

maybe if it's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.17768

>>17704

>pathetic loser

reminds me of the people who keep telling me to "take my meds"

most of these people we make fun of are the intellectuals of society, and are being properly contained with vices like corn syrup, escapism, pornography

their effeminate minds are then susceptible to degenerate ideas like "atheism", "nihilism", "paganism" etc

even if someone like me (only upper-mid tier iq) became man enough to speak in public (and not read from a script), I would make so much more of a difference than 10 deleted youtubers

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 No.17902

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is this faggot still alive?

depresses me just thinking about that 2018 was 3 years ago. nothing has happened since then, the world has only gotten every more shit

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 No.10245 [Open Thread]

Has anyone successfully stopped thoughts of autogynephilia by abstaining from porn and masturbation?

Every time I ride my dildo and masturbate pretending I'm a girl an intense wave of depression comes over me when once I actually cum and starkly realize that I'm not, and will never be, a pretty girl.

I don't think I'm gay or want to be transgender, since these thoughts only started building once I was in my mid-20s, so I'm assuming it's the result of too much pornography. I'm just wondering if it is too late for me or if there's anything I can do to reverse it.

I've accepted that I need to work harder on actually being a man, but right now my sexual desires are that of a girl's, and so I have no motivation to enact that change.

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 No.15239

>>15238

Because this funny thread is worth the 2 year bump

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 No.15246

>>10664

No one is naturally homosexual. If there was a gene for homosexuality it would obviously been bred out of existence. Homosexuality is learned either through porn or sexual abuse.

If you didn't have homosexual thoughts before you started watching porn I can assure you of you go on nofap you will stop being attracted to men.

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 No.15254

>>10245

Definitely stop watching porn dude. When you watch porn, one of three things will happen: either you self-insert as the man, or you self-insert as a third-party viewer (ie, cuckoldry/bisexuality), or you self-insert as the woman (ie, autogynephilia). You apparently self-insert as the woman, which is probably the most common of the options since most pornography focuses very heavily on the woman's pleasure, causing you to sympathize with and eventually to identify with the woman primarily. This effect is multiplied a lot when you prefer lesbian or solo pornography. Searching for porn that focuses on the man's pleasure obviously won't help you, as that runs the risk of acclimating you to full-blown homosexuality. Stop watching porn, it's the only way.

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 No.15303

>>15246

>Homosexuality is learned either through porn or sexual abuse.

The goyim know.

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 No.17898

>Has anyone successfully stopped thoughts of autogynephilia by abstaining from porn and masturbation?

>Every time I ride my dildo and masturbate pretending I'm a girl an intense wave of depression comes over me when once I actually cum and starkly realize that I'm not, and will never be, a pretty girl.

>I don't think I'm gay or want to be transgender, since these thoughts only started building once I was in my mid-20s, so I'm assuming it's the result of too much pornography. I'm just wondering if it is too late for me or if there's anything I can do to reverse it.

>I've accepted that I need to work harder on actually being a man, but right now my sexual desires are that of a girl's, and so I have no motivation to enact that change.

Kek

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 No.17686 [Open Thread]

So far it's the only thing that has the most power over my fap addiction. I am very much aware of the reality that white women don't actually like black men, and that interracial marriages are extremely rare and that racemixing is dangerous and everything, but somehow I still get a retardedly fast heartbeat when I stuble across a "blacked.com" thread here and there, or even the slightest mention of it.

What do I do? How do I kill off this specific fetish? Please help anons

pic is a nice screenshot because I don't feel like there's any image that fits into this discussion

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 No.17749

Although I never had this fetish myself, for a while I've been observing it and people involved mainly due to visiting this place. And my theory is that it is all about humiliation and just as there are lots of people who hate women but love femdom, interracial fetishists hate niggers irrationally.

Now i'm no nigger lover, but your mind is under the influence of /pol/ virus which alters your perception of reality so that you obsses about race ("racemixing is dangerous" lol) and instead of seeing a pale female monkey of a race that does better on standardized tests copulating with a darker monkey, no, you see an AryanTM goddess getting defiled by orkish creatures representing your utter impotence and failure in an attempt to save the world from jewish gobli- wake up. Unplug yourself from this toxic media environment, get out. Not saying it's necessary to go that far, but I can guarantee you that spending a few weeks away from everything, perhaps camping would solve your issues.

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 No.17856

By becoming a racist

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 No.17887

>>17856

I thought you already had to be a racist to be into 'blacked' stuff?

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 No.17890

>>17749

Race mixing is scientifically proven to be bad though. Maybe not catastrophic by your definition but making a brown faced monkey that doesn’t do as well on tests as his pale faced mother will effect the quality of a society if it happens on a large enough scale. The guy who founded blacked is Jewish. Al Goldstein was the father of American pornography and said explicitly that he did it to harm white Christians. There’s quotes from “Unclean Lips” where Jewish porn producers say that pornography is a tool of social control that makes people less violent and more open to suggestion. Whether you believe that this has a meaningful impact on modern life in western countries is up to you I suppose, but it is certainly a matter of fact that their are Jewish pornography producers that believe that what they do harms white communities and admit openly that it is their main reason for doing it.

>>17686

Look man, you’re going to spend a lot of time, possibly even years, looking for “one simple trick” to fix problems like this, but at the end of it you will discover that the answer is to just stop watching it. Trust me, I know how that sounds to you right now but whether it’s interracial porn or fast food or drugs, the answer is to remove it from your life for a while, and once your brain figures out it was actually harming you, you’ll develop a distaste and avoidance of it. Do one bad habit at a time because you will have intense urges to relapse, there is no getting around that. Just do what I do and think “if I eat this burger/ jack off/ do drugs the Jews win.” Extremely motivating imo

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 No.17897

File: 094758679466018⋯.jpg (107.31 KB,2048x1152,16:9,1.jpg)

The Four Aryan Truths

1. Suffering is an innate characteristic of existence.

2. Craving is the root cause of suffering.

3. Ending suffering can be attained by ending craving.

4. There is a path to ending craving and suffering.

http://buddhanet.net/audio-lectures.htm

http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org/documents/What%20the%20Buddha%20Taught_Rahula.pdf

卍 卐 卍 卐 卍 卐 卍 卐 卍

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 No.17858 [Open Thread]

Does anyone know of porn that does not involve the degradation of women? What I'm interested in is portrayals of sex online that show it as two people who love each other joining together.

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 No.17864

>>17858

Wow this board is dead.

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 No.17884

Japanese erotic doujins.

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 No.17894

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 No.17550 [Open Thread]

Hey bois, I'm a 29er guy who's about to be 30 soon and trying to fix his life through from poverty to other things. and addictions in which fapping also included..

let me tell you about my brief internet history, I was 9 years old when I'm first introduced to Rotten by my cousin. It was the beauty website I was lurking every week, fearing and probably pushing my imagination towards gruesome things, gore and desolation. My life has been full on pc and video games and internet. I hated it. I hate electricity and electronics in general I still hate it, yet I'm here. I don't even have a cellphone, touching it hurts my nerves somehow. lately heard that it uses your bio energy, rather than reflecting from its own battery.

However, here and there after years, and I've been introduced into 4chin by some other website I frequented, then, a big turnpoint in my life had come, I hopped on the /b/ train and downfall of my youth, psychology and sanity started. I've seen most of the dirtiest, naughtiest, disgusting stuff yet things that made Rotten look like daily newspaper I vaguely remember. I've seen daisy's destruction, I've seen extreme gore, conflicts, animal abuse and I'm still sometimes getting extreme depression because of those. Nobody told me I wouldn't be able to forget some sort of things. forever perhaps. Of course I had fun, so much fun. that also moshed my brain and psychology because I had fun interlaced with horror. everyday and every week. This sudden and sharp happiness and sadness switches in short periods, was lately I've learned, also one of the deep state mind control methods.

cont.

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 No.17554

So, you feel powerful, yet also feel like a fag from not fapping? seems like a contradiction to me, don't stress too much about it, you have suffered enough, remember that fapping is a choice, and you already decided you will be better off not fapping, so just disregard the activity, don't let it occupy your mind for a moment, if you start having sexual thoughts don't entertain them for too long, accept them as they are a natural thing, just don't let them control your actions, from all that shit you indulged in while young, it's there with you and you will have to accept it, also, you will have to forgive yourself as to not let it keep controlling your life and actions, only when you accept yourself as you are know, traumas and all, you can strive to be better, and you will be if you don't continue dwelling in your past actions, you didn't kill anyone, you didn't rape anyone, you went to pull the cow's leg, reprehensible yes, but it could be worse, and you can be a lot better, remember that, and remember there's no real reason for fapping, by fapping you are extracting the very manliness from you, leaving you weaker and unmotivated to pursue the things you really want in life, that and effectively making yourself dumber and incapable of concentrating.

I've been indulging myself, fapping everyday for the last week, wasting my time, I'm 28 years old, thanks for sharing your story, reminded me of my own goals I've nee choosing to neglect, see it like this, we don't wanna enter our thirties addicted to fapping, grown man addicted to rubbing their own cocks for dopamine like laboratory rats?, no man, we can be better off.

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 No.17563

>>17554

Thanks for the advice, I'm very grateful.

>if you start having sexual thoughts don't entertain them for too long, accept them as they are a natural thing, just don't let them control your actions

I'm currently fighting with that. Actually when I think about it, the faggotry induced out of nowhere is actually connected within the need of sex, and in that need of sex are my memories of watching shemales and stuff. You know I've been raised in 4chan and even if you pay excessive attention, weirdness catches you here but there. It goes in my subconsciousness as I guess, "I'm male and if I banished my own self for having male ways of sex, if I cannot have active pleasure, then as I know ways of passive pleasures, which do not even belong to male nature, I should use them".

I think this is the kernel thought which I should avoid and tame over time.

I quit using computer and internet regularly after opening this thread. This also seems to be quite effective. looks like it's been over 2 weeks, and once about 4-5 days ago I've got this extreme pressure of want of sexual pleasure, what you talked about above. Fought through it about an hour, tried to distract myself and kept reminding myself of reasons and not to be regretful again for few seconds of pleasure etc etc.

I've been through it and now in the last few days I've had couple of intensive headaches, which I think have to do with no fapping. I'm alright right now, whenever I have a glimpse of a sexual thought in my head, as soon as possible I think it's gross in any way and flesh is gross, it's just flesh and earthly endeavour which only animals do and I'm no human cattle.

it works. I think I can break thru this time. I'll come back sometime later. Take care anon. In anything about life, the sooner the good decision, the better everything.

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 No.17575

>>17563

>>17550

Accept what I say is true and humble yourself.

You're an interconnected creature. If you can run well you can squat well. If you can type quickly you can flip a butterfly knife more easily. And importantly for you, if you have resolve in one part of your life it'll reach into others. Do small things that are annoying to do but are good for you (avoid sugar a few days, read a little, etc) and eventually it'll be easy for you to pick yourself up and run around the block. It'll ultimately set your sights on the long term.

The key to your gayness is incentivism, I'll explain: There's incentive in plucking hair off of a fallen piece of food and carefully cleaning it but it's not enough to outweigh the effort and loss before the gain. You can have sex with a man in the asshole but it's dirty, embarrassing, unclean, not as pleasant as a vagina, etc. Why pick clean the fallen food when you can toss it and claim an easier, greater bounty, and why approach a man when something far more pleasing is just the other way? This may seem like a parable, but just how self control grows within you, so does homosexuality. It's a behavioral disease. Identify what your habits where the gain doesn't outweigh the loss in the long term. Masturbation is one of them.

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 No.17642

>>17550

About the bioenergy, I remember being a kid and playing Bloons Tower Defense 5 on my iPod outside in the cold, and it would be on the verge of dying, and then I'd try to warm it up with pressure from my hands, and it would actually regain a couple percent of charge. It was super weird and even then I knew there was something strange but wouldn't have guessed that. I mean maybe the heat was just making the voltage go up but not actually recharging it, but I'm still willing to give some weight to this theory as the battery seemed to be able to be kept going almost indefinitely this way rather than only going partially back up to where it went up to when I'd done it before.

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 No.17892

just read this book:

https://easypeasymethod.org/easypeasy.pdf

and find a friend to talk to

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 No.17796 [Open Thread]

Its fucked up, everything was going fine then I did yoga and was instantly aroused, it was like “come on anon, just press this button, just move your hand right here, its just one move, then a one second dopamine release which leads to nowhere !”

And as usual it literally lead me nowhere, but I at least came back to earth after a few days instead of the usual month - months.

The key is to not use social media. Dont look at any girl. Literally delete women from your brain, they are parasites who exist only to take and multiply the problems here. Life is a fucking scam, when you jack off you are injecting yourself full force back into the matrix. I literally have the exact same mental state I would with the stupid dopamine release which is the equivalent of pulling the plug on a computer.

Mutual companionship is better than any orgasm. Fuck religion, ban sex, create people in labs.

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 No.17808

Not bad. You're getting there, but there are holes in your concept.

You must deny yourself masturbation and mutual companionship. Orgasm is a momentary pleasure, but a happy relationship will make you soft.

It's true women are parasitic. I mean, people in general are. Men want sex, so it can be argued that they are, though women cannot maintain relationship stability so they end up destroying them with selfishness.

The layers of the matrix are deeper than you think. You woke up from a dream and you think you're in reality, but you're in another dream.

Those people on fail compilations who get injured or die for stupid reasons. People who end up being tortured and killed or imprisoned.

Pain and lack of pleasure don't cause unhappiness. You get used to them. Likewise, you get used to pleasure and lack of pain.

Why not go the other way than the hoards of people trying to make their lives better, and deny yourself everything? Test that theory, that you can never be unhappy.

We're no different than bacteria growing on a petri dish. We can never be truly happy or unhappy, thus we can make all the wrong decisions. Why be smart, why think, why even try to wake up like you say?

You're taking an inconsequential object, masturbation, and making it out to be some sort of devil. Possibly because it appears as an angel to those who don't know any better. There are no angels or devils. They are in your head.

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 No.17889

I agree, stay away from all forms of social media. I thought I was safe on thr SFW boards on 4channope. Redditnope. All of it is designed to bury its users in a ditch of misery and dependency. Don't fall for it, anons.

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 No.17885 [Open Thread]

Besides your dignity and countless hours of your time what else have you lost because of your fap addiction? I've just been scammed out of a couple of dollars on the promise of a video call, nothing taxing, can't really justify my actions though, money is money and is better used elsewhere, but of course blinded by my fap addiction I allowed myself to be silly like that, so it was a hit on my wallet, my dignity and my time, been one day clean, what about you guys?

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 No.17880 [Open Thread]

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 No.17879 [Open Thread]

If I am able to, I will be able to create a board on this site which will be called /pure20s/ and will be even broader than nofap. It will be discussion of nofap hardmode, combined with discussion of education, etc. that will make the 2020s the most pure and amazing decade so far. We have had decades like the 60's and 70's which have had hippies, and we have had decades like the 80's and 90's which have had various types of music dominating culture, and we have had the 1920's which were dominated by people getting around the alcohol ban. It is time to have a decade that is dominated by the opposite culture, a culture that both brings the good aspects of ancient times and combines it with the great knowledge of modern times. If the board is able to be created, I will update this thread. I am happy about the existence of this board, /nofap/.

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 No.17876 [Open Thread]

quit for about 4 months now but because of leaf restrictions, cant really see anyone, and i never had any woman attracted to me before the fake pandemic anyways, how can i release any urges without anything to release it into?

inb4 gym(already do), hobbies(most of hobbies got killed by covid), work for your goals(pretty well off now)

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 No.17877

Trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. He can set you free from lusts and temptations. Seek him in his word and in prayer. He will be found of you.

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 No.17859 [Open Thread]

Is this board dead? Is anyone still here?

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 No.17867

>>17859

Nah I check it every day. Maybe I should make a thread to get this place rollin again

Btw I am on day 2

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 No.17869

I've been out of the loop but still come here from time to time, right now I'm gonna do some serious introspection reading my year old thread, where I was so convinced of letting go this habit, so I can't justify anymore faping as soon as I have alone time and faping before bed every night.

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 No.17871

I still come here a few times a week. It is at least somewhere to go when the urges are there.

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 No.17872

Nofap doesn't work, here's a free method with a much higher success rate. Quitting porn is easy boyos, you'll do well.

:https://easypeasymethod.org/

https://www.reddit.com/r/pmohackbook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVxWYUvXoXU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCE5n6RGTlc

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 No.17875

>>17859

i come here to fap to people telling me not to fap

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 No.17365 [Open Thread]

This is my honest perspective on it and I'm open to having a discussion about it. I really believe the whole thing is a trap to get people to stop thinking clearly so it ruins their life. If my thread gets deleted I'm not sure what I will think, but I will probably believe that my concerns are confirmed.

Here I will present my perspective:

nofap was created by hyper leftist self hating anorexic OR obese roastie hyper-feminist misandrist social justice warrior outrage mob women with pointy glasses, too much make up, heels that are wayyyyy too high and exaggerated, and blue/green/pink dyed hair.

They created nofap so that men would hate their own bodies and themselves as much as women hate their own bodies and themselves. It's basically an MK ultra psychological warfare mindfuck like the things women say at the very end of arguments that just fucks your head for a whole week.

Meanwhile they contradict themselves by glorifying female sexuality, but demonizing male sexuality.

These people believe that men don't have the right to enjoy the freedom of brining themselves to orgasm by natural and safe and risk free means in the privacy of their own home, and seek to shame men and make them feel depressed and miserable for doing a healthy and happy natural thing that can't result in STD's or Pregnancy. Masturbation.

The end goal is that they know men are horny no matter what, so they convince them they can't fap, and then mens minds automatically rationalize that if they can't fap they must fuck, and then they bombard us with the incel insults to use peer pressure and bullying to push us into getting into a relationship and getting married to one of these "WOMYN" (not any of the unicorn rare nice ones) in order to achieve sex, because coomming in a womyn is totally different than coomming with your hand right? wrong, both ways you coomed. But then guess what, you're trapped! She's pregnant! Or maybe not, but both ways she divorce rapes you RIGHT in the fucking bank account and takes over half of all your shit, takes your healthy happy dog that you'vPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.17854

>>17365

If's you think it's a scam, you should question what exactly you are giving up by not masturbating. Nobody is forcing you to date or get married. In fact, if you are going to deny yourself pleasure, you may as well go all the way and abstain from sexual relations with women as well as pornography and masturbation. Think of it as a well to clear your mind and build self-discipline. It doesn't have to be permanent either. Try masturbating without pornography once a month or so and see how that goes.

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 No.17855

>>17365

wtf holy shit

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 No.17860

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 No.17873

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 No.17874

>>17381

You argue against sexualization of society while posting a picture of a steroid user with a homosexual message?

OP is onto something. Not masturbating for ascetic reasons might be a good thing, but only after conquering other vices such as smoking, food, drinks, videogames and internet addiction.

Diogenes is said to publicly masturbate and he was known for rejecting all other worldly pleasures.

I wish broader asceticism or real stoicism (not the poker face existentialist meme) was more popular rather than nofap.

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 No.17870 [Open Thread]

Dice rollRolled 35 (1d90)

Post some noFap memes and general funny pics to distract yourself from fapping.

The dice roll is how long I will last this streak( I am currently on day 3)

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 No.17863 [Open Thread]

I hate to see everyone hurting. I understand your desire to break an addiction, I have my own of different kind but overpowering none the less. But please give yourself a break about the things that are turning you on. They are just thoughts, in most cases. And the more you try to repress them the more they will own you.

These a hard times for people. Things are bleak and there seems to be nothing to look forward to. But you are a human and have a brain that needs to be stimulated (I mean mentally not sexually!). So it starts to think of things that are out of the norm for yourself. How boring would life be if it was all the same all the time. I hate to see people beating themselves up so much. There are plenty of people to put you down, don’t do it yourself!

But I do know for a fact that the more you try to stop thinking of something the more your brain will want to think about it. Kinda like “don’t push this button”, what’s the next thing you do? Exactly. Then if you add tons of idle time and the layer of self inflicted shame and guilt and you have yourself a Fetish my friends. It’s kinda like the zen thing, just let the thoughts come and go and that’s all they are, thoughts. Some people it may be more then just thoughts, but I know guilt and shame make everything harder everything worse. Just take it easy on yourself, we are all good people. I hope this helps, truly.

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