/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous

dunno why you would get any useful advice from a bunch of soyboys anyways

quality over quantity

take viagra if you have to have sex.

otherwise know that

YEARS OF DEGENERACY CANT BE UNDONE BY MERE MONTHS OF ABSTINENCE

Merry christmas to all

Past Yesterday I watched again making it 3 times I did edging, usually for quite an amount of minutes, last time was minimum

I thought about leaving it out as a little white lie, but I dont want to carry out any sort of deception at all. And well, truth is gritty.

Hope you have a happy new years eve

Day 13.

Got a whole bunch of things I'm doing

Been wrting a shitlot, getting back into running, working out mostly at home since holiday season, but going back to the gym restarting this week.

Past years new years resolution havent caught unto me mainly because they are plentyful.

But just figured day 13 since 23/12.

Talking to randos on the street, just a blast.

"Everything will be fine as long as no one teleports bread"

R: I've done nothing for the last days but teleported bread

Same now, I did nothing or almost nothing but hunked the hog, edged all day and watch porn far and wide today, as long as I can control my pulsating

nerves there is a chance to survive, no more filth. I 'm done with this shit BYEEEEEEEEE

>>6364

jewish lies

no fap doesn't work if you never have sex

>>17175

i agree except it's black lolis instead

>>17740

What about us, soon to be wizard folks who have only felt sexual pleasure from and by our own hands? If we don't know what we are missing then I think abstaining becomes easier.

You're a fucking degenerate

DA FUCK? I want to continue in my bubble thinking this is just a hoax I'll stick to my normal cock masturbation.

I understand, as an alternative but… Anal Masturbation keeps you on shame Cycle. So It's better with No Alternatives. Just Do It.

>>11409

You’re fine. I’ve had some dreams of this type as well; nothing explicitly sexual and the desire for kindness and emotional closeness. We’re all gonna make it brehs.

>>11410

I think my brain has partially rebooted, I dont see women as objects anymore, hell I even care about the sexual part anymore.

I might be going through a hard flatline right now, because Im lacking any emotions of some short, except for negative ones guilt and worrying about the future.

>>11403

I'd play that game

>>11411

Curious,the opposite happened to me,i'm more self centered,i'm less emotional and i don't feel regret or empathy anymore,nofap turned me into a psychopath.

feels kinda good

>>11141

I've used abstainance from masturbation in the past when I was very interested in lucid dreaming and had great results. Some of the most meaning moments of my life really. I had to mix in galantamine though to move the dreams to the "next level". The vividness I experienced in the dream was more real than real life, if that makes sense.

I've dreamt of my death. I fell into an endless ocean, in the center of which was a pit. The ocean was falling into this darkness. I fell from the sky, I saw tall Roman pillars in concentric circles that were sticking out of the ocean first. They were pure white contrasted against the roaring ocean beneath. As my descent came closer to the surface I saw the center. The ocean eating black hole. I fell into the hole. I was in a void, I thought I had died, truly believed it. I thought about my family first, and then I realized there was nothing I could do. Then I started to let go, of life. I felt a peace I never knew I could have as I stopped thinking. I was free from all the troubles of my life, and I was warm inside, happy maybe.

Then I woke up. I've got another dream too if anyone wants to hear it.

Now I'd like to take a moment to address the bad advice and opinions from cumbrains and porn addicts that I often see elsewhere on the internet, that only make nofap more difficult to understand, and confounded my own efforts especially early on.

1. "Bro, it's PORN that's the problem, not MASTURBATION. MASTURBATION is totally okay!"

Shut the FUCK up you drooling cocksucker, this is hands down the most dangerous, shittiest, and most useless piece of advice I've seen. Porn is merely a potent kind of fuel - masturbation is the vehicle that carries you to Dopamine City. Porn helps to facilitate masturbation, which is the entire point. Masturbation, sex, porn, and everything else - it's all forms of sexual stimulation to which we can become addicted, and are in fact collectively addicted. Even if you didn't watch porn and masturbate it is hypothetically possible for one to become a sex addict, were it possible for you to have an endless access to willing women every single day. If you want to overcome the actual problem that is harming your life, you need to stop masturbating, period.

2. "Bro, it's okay to masturbate in moderation."

Bit of a riff on #1, but a slightly different angle. Are you going to offer that same advice to a long-time, hardcore alcoholic? "Bro it's just one drink". It's never just one drink, and it's never just one fap. This is the whole reason for my advice above about avoiding all suggestive imagery - the moment you put your foot on the slide, doors start opening and before you know it you're slipping back down. If you are able to masturbate without porn in whatever a "moderate" frequency is, and continue with your happy and productive life, more power to you. But if not, don't delude yourself. Masturbation is not in itself inherently good or bad, but it does have an addictive dark side. If we didn't live in such a fucked up toxic clown world hell, then "masturbating in moderation" probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. What is moderation, by the way? When I fapped, I wasn't cranking it multiple times a day. My normal frequency was 2-3 times a week. That frequency seems like it shouldn't be a big deal, but I can say with absolute certainty that it was incredibly bad for mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

4. "Bro, I need to fap to get Post-Nut Clarity™. That's when I make all my major decisions and have my deepest thoughts!"

If any of you ever browse half-chan /pol/ and have seen a nofap thread, you might have seen the german coomer who visits nearly every nofap thread to lecture us about Post-Nut Clarity - as if guys like us haven't been cooming for years and have no idea what he's talking about. The addict has too much brain fog to realize that we are all fully aware of the so-called "clarity" that visits you after orgasm, and we don't care. The fact is, Post-Nut Clarity is not some nirvana-like heightened state of mind that elevates you above what you've deluded yourself into thinking is a normal state of mind - what it really is is only a momentary reprieve from the compulsive desires to which you are a slave. In a sense, it's a momentary freedom from desire, when you are no longer dominated by your slavish "need" to fap. It's also a testament to just how subject you really are to some of the internal workings of your unconscious mind. If you fap, try to observe in the moment of your orgasm how your desire drastically shifts from 100% to 0% in a few seconds after finishing, and how it alters your behavior. That alone should humble an honest man.

5. "Hi, I'm a stupid idiot. I'm doing nofap but I edge for hours to porn. It's okay though because I don't cum."

I see these posts from time to time. Maybe they're trolling me, I'm not sure. It's hard for me to think sometimes that someone can be so addicted to tickling their pickle that they will delude themselves into thinking that edging, which is quite possibly the worst thing you can do to yourself, is somehow keeping in line with nofap. If this really is you, then try to realize that the fact that you have to compulsively touch yourself so much is a flaming red flag that is violently spinning at 50,000 RPM. Stop touching yourself. In my view these guys are really no different in principle than the "masturbation in moderation" and "it's porn not masturbation" guys. They are all operating on different flavors of the same delusion for the purpose of avoiding confronting our individual and collective sexual dysfunction.

I hope that something I'vPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>17729

yeah, fapping after a week feels better for sure.

I'm just curious if so called "superpowers" will manifest, and in what way

All I know that if I will continue PMO nothing will change for the better… or worse?

So far, day 1

I already had an erotic dream

Recently I stopped playing fifa, that was a destructive habit

Instead I played good old Thief yesterday. That is a real game - hard and atmospheric, even if 22 years old

>>17731

These "superpowers" are literally your baseline that you're living below because of your porn and video game consumption. Your testosterone is low. PMO fries your dopamine receptors (it's not natural at all and only a coomer or a Jew will tell you otherwise).

The best way to get to 7 days (when you start feeling higher Testosterone) is to change your environment to give you less private time. For example, jacking off won't occur to you if you're camping in the woods for three days with your friends, but it might feel like a necessity if you find yourself in the same time and place that you PMO by habit.

>>17732

>>17731

PMO and even just MO is not natural. Normal people don't do this routinely. In the past people had less privacy and stimulation so you'd have to be a pervert. Yearn for the days of true masculinity free from perversion. Consume things that draw you closer to this inspiration. Discover it and surround yourself with it.

>>17731

>>17732

>>17733

You guys are intense. So many advices.

So far I don't want to play with big words here, just writing my journal

What the goal is, doesn't matter now. Just enjoying the road.

Day 2

Thief is really adrenaline pumping game. I made it to almost the end of the third mission on hard difficulty, and realised I wasted fire arrows that I need to activate the lock where the gem is. Game over

Yesterday I got the thought to start making bets on football matches. Never really occured to me as such strong desire. I felt similar rush when I was like 2 weeks on nofap and the thought of porn came. That sweet dark feeling convinced me that I shoudln't make the profle on betting page.

Overall, yesterday I was quite productive. I work online for now, I'm glued to computer most of the time, but no real pmo urges so far.

As for what is worst, I sure think PMO is the worst combination. I always felt the worst after pmo, while after mo session it feels different. You go to your intimate desires, while with porn it often gots twisted. It feels deeper, even if it's not good

>>17713

btw this only works if you've developed a 'gay' fetish because of excessive masturbation and pornography. If you are a REAL homo then no, Nofap won't work.

I was toying with the idea of how this could be an evolutionary adaptation and I think I may be onto something. I think it all has to do with genetic diversity, hear me out here:

If the "alpha male" in a group of humans were to just fuck and fuck and fuck all the women nonstop then the genetic diversity of that group of humans would plummet and cause the usual problems a lack of genetic diversity causes. So what if built into our sexuality is something that if we were to do too much fucking would alter our desire to fuck into a form that no longer procreates and frees up the women for other men? That would allow other males in that group of humans the opportunity to do more fucking and therefore increase the genetic diversity of the group.

This also leans into the idea that born homosexuality is also an evolutionary adaptation. Think about it, its been shown that the more boys a woman gives birth to the more likely the next boy will turn out gay. We know that women are more important to procreation than men as they have one egg at a time that takes them 9 months to gestate where as a man can shoot millions of sperm into as many women as he can so if the ratio of men to women is too large then there will be men that are useless when it comes to procreation. So what if those men that are born gay are born to be conduits of the sexual energy of the alpha males that have fucked themselves into faggotry? Suddenly the born homos are no longer procreationally useless as they're serving a purpose in increasing the genetic diversity by taking the dick thats already fucked a bunch of women and also they aren't competing with the too many males that already exist in the group.

Bringing this into the modern era it follows that now that we have the pornography that allows us to simulate fucking well enough to trick our brains that its real that if we did it too much we would go into that same "you've fucked too much" mode that was evolutionarily advantageous to our tribes in the past even though the only thing our seed has been spread into is countless tissues.

Am I making any kind of sense here or am I totally out of left field with this line of thought?

In your own post you already admit it was the escalation of degeneracy that made you like it so you can go in the opposite direction too.

Even wanting anal with women follows the same formula. I remember the first time i saw it, i was disgusted and wondered why would anyone do that. Then in time i began to like those scenes. I was subverted.

Now that i nofapped and noporned for 3 years or so i am regaining the natural sense of disgust.

>>12351

Theres a phenomenon in the trans community where usually those who "Think" they are women first start as straight males who then become transgender through pornography use. Most transgenders started their transition after getting addicted to porn

>>12438

Don't worry op… I'm a filthy degenerate too. Anime traps are literal perfection yet my eyes can always sniff out a transgender man. They live in the uncanny valley and even though they dress up and put on makeup with favorable lighting and filters I can always tell and it disgusts me… No matter how you present a fake skin you can't change what lies under.(bone structure)

Porn and tv is dangerous because you go into a passive soaking mode where your inhibitions are suspended. It will convert you to bad things if you dispel your natural gut reaction of disgust because you begin to accept everything horny people have lower disgust reactions and become very receptive it's kind of like a hypnotic trance. Op here started fapping normal but was exposed when horny to "Disgusting" content his disgust was dispelled in the moment allowing him to fap and get that rush of a new fetish. It's a slippery slope my friend and the climb is hard but keep going.

>>17737

>Theres a phenomenon in the trans community where usually those who "Think" they are women first start as straight males who then become transgender through pornography use. Most transgenders started their transition after getting addicted to porn

How often is this the case with zoomers?

>>12636

simply not true, I've had wet dreams a week after relapsing. Had 2 in one night recently

i get regular wet dreams every 3-4 days always during lewd dreams. How can one not ejaculate during such dreams is beyond me

>>13427

Do you obsess over porn? Browse porn? I'm over a month into nofap and only had 1 lewd dream and 0 wet dreams.

>>12688

>>13399

My experience is the exact opposite. I'll have wet dreams if I've not cum in a while and haven't been edging or looking at porn. When I look at porn all day I can go months without cumming before having a wet dream. It roughly tracks with how long since the last orgasm but I've had sex and had a wet dream that night. Nowadays I'm better at holding back my orgasm in dreams when I used to have a hair trigger.

>>17648

I am pretty sure I remember something about sleep pills making it harder to fall asleep naturally if taken for too long.

I guess the only way out is to quit and suck it up, but maybe ask your doctor or something if you're worried since sleep is important.

>>17515

Just ban all chans and all porn sites on the firewall for your PC. I'm doing this too. The only way I can access porn sites or this site is through my phone but that's just not the way I could edge for 4 hours straight lmao I almost searched porn on my phone but I went to this place instead. Don't use 9channel. Those faggots try to make you feel attracted by spamming that which should not be posted.

>>17709

I sound drunk. Didn't meant it this way

>>17665

Nocturnal emissions are involuntary, so you shouldn't count it as a loss.

>>17666

>Nocturnal emissions are involuntary

are they really involuntary? My theory is that they are a result of sexual build up that isnt released with work or regular type of cooming.

Does anyone have a proper theory why do they happen when they happen and why do they not happen? In my 214 days I had none, while usually when on nofap they used to happen on day 60 or something, the days previous the 214 streak I had a light flu which resulted in me being tired/unproductive, many streaks ended after a similar thing happened few days before.

>>14799

>nothing you can do

Wickedly false.

You can catch yourself by seeding universal intent to not ejaculate. You wake in just enough time to lock the ejaculation mechanism to save your seed. (or others methods like Chia's)

"Nothing you can do" my ass…

>>17671

There were times when I could hold off my cooming, but around half of the time I'm too late or not conscious enough to make the right decision. I also believe that we are responsible for our wet dreams, the only involuntary kind of "wet dream" is when you leak cum without dream deamon making you cum.

>>17707

Meant orgasm. But you faggots can understand me I'm sure.