/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous

Yeah there's a pretty clear behavioral link between pornography abuse and a lot of the weird shit we're seeing these days. I'm sure more than a few of us wound up dipping into/becoming obsessed with traps/futa/or even outright gay porn, only to completely reverse it by abstaining. Masturbation is a hell of a drug. Consistently spending hours a day with elevated dopamine levels as you masturbate by yourself causes the brain to associate joy with your own parts/semen, it rewires your brain into an auto-erotic quasi homosexual nightmare. Couple that with the isolation that goes with porn abuse and the insular abusive communities that sincerely believe all behavior is secretly transexual "eggs" repressing, porn addicts get put onto a behavioral highway that leads straight to trooning out.

I can't remember where I read it, but somewhere there's a paper on how pornography encourages and unlocks homosexuality. If porn disappeared tomorrow I'm certain the tranny/homosexual explosion would disappear with it.

>>7144

>Decide for yourself what holds you back and is detrimental to you and then eliminate one bad habit at a time

This.

I would also add that whilst eliminating 1 bad habit at a time, it's best to start 1 good habit at a time.

Don't focus on 1 or the other. Eliminating bad habits and starting good habits is not double the work, because the two actions are complimentary.

>eliminating bad habits without starting good habits

You will be left with a time and stimulation gap which used to be filled with your bad habit.

Even if you somehow get over the stimulation craving by sheer willpower, you will still be left with a time gap in which you used to spend on your bad habit (and of course that gap will be bigger with the more bad habits you eliminate).

You will have to fill that gap with something. If you don't fill that with a good habit, then you have to fill it with something that's not good. Common sense.

>starting good habits without eliminating bad habits

As mentioned above, there is a time-limit, and a stimulation-limit.

The time element isn't such an issue because it can worked around by multi-tasking. For example, you can exercise (good habit), whilst watching tv (bad habit).

However, this only works because both of these are fairly weak stimuli (assuming you aren't doing a really advanced exercise or watching a really complex tv show), so you don't reach your stimulation limit.

However, you *will* reach your stimulation limit if you try and combine stronger stimuli. Take for example, listening to audiobooks on a complex subject, and playing an very difficult videogame.

>>6982

I took this as quit imageboards and now im addicted to youtube. I'm going to quit the internet. God help us all.

Bump

>>6982

That pic really did that thought me about imageboards.

>>17920

kek

>>17904

A lifetime of addiction can't be undone by mere seconds of regret.

You're not trying to become better. The same principle applies for your whole life. Becoming better isn't an afterthought, it should be as it is, a commitment to the truth of life within you and for those around you or after you. Faggot kike.

>>17909

OP here, day 42 of nofap, still nothing.

When are the superpowers kicking in?

>>18034

Regarding your fetishes, it can take a year for the brain to heal from the addiction pathways deeply carved by porn or drugs or anything else.

Regarding 'superpowers', do not expect nofap to solely carry you to self improvement, though it is a large factor that will benefit you if you stay on this journey. Combining nofap with regular exercise, healthy nutrition, and good sleep is where the real 'super powers' come in. I was deeply suicidal for many months a year ago. Only though about suicide all day every day and spent most days in a fetal position having repeated panic attacks from my misery. I was prescribed antidepressants by my doctor and I decided I was going to do everything in my power to help myself before I even thought about having a pharmacological lobotomy. It began with regular exercise, especially cardio. That gave me the self-esteem to believe I could recover from porn addiction. I was also very addicted to a few drugs and exercising gave me the courage to face the withdrawals head on. I am completely night and day to how I used to be. I am in the best place I have ever been and I wake up every day excited to exist. Maybe I'd feel different if I had to participate in the economy. To some people working their life away in the industrial economy is not so bad, some people adjust better than others. But for me, I cannot do that, even in this great place that I'm in. Not that I don't work because I do. I have a garden that produces all of my food and I work on my homestead every day securing my physical necessities. That is a bit off topic but I felt like I should mention it because your environment can be just as impactful as the way you take care of yourself physically and psychologically.

"Superpowers" are a reddit meme dumbass. You don't get superpowers from nofap any more than you get superpowers from quitting smoking. What you get out of nofap amounts to more free time, freedom from post-nut disgust, and, depending on your belief system, freedom from sin. If you want "superpowers" you should start lifting.

>>17924

Have you read easypeasy method?

Stopping any addiction is incredibly difficult. I've been addicted to many things. Porn, alcohol, meth, heroin, various opioids, various other amphetamines, diflourethane, and many more. When thinking about how to overcome an addiction, it is important both to address how you will live your new life and find healthy ways to cope with stress and boredom, but it is just as important to address the underlying condition of your life that makes you run to destructive coping mechanisms. It is no coincidence that industrialized societies have insane suicide, depression, anxiety, and addiction rates. Life is meaningless for most people, the process of securing your physical necessities takes minimal real effort or the effort it does take is so disconnected from the way humans evolved to live that we get no meaning from it.

A lot of what can be done while still living an industrial way of life is to clean up your lifestyle. When I was struggling to overcome porn addiction and kept relapsing, a large factor that enabled me to do that was my lack of self esteem. When I began exercising regularly, particularly cardio (which is the most psychologically beneficial and rewarding exercise), it completely revitalized my self worth and I didn't want to relapse nearly as much because I respected myself and didn't want to let myself sink to that because I knew I could do better and would do better. As you walk this nofap journey, your self esteem will continue to increase. Of course I still have cravings to fap, but I remember the sad, miserable person I was before I began to respect myself and I decide not to. One day at a time. When you get a craving, think before you act. Think about what you want for yourself in the long term instead of just considering what will make you feel good in the moment.

>>17917

how do i stop myself disabling it

>>16879

Oh God. Succgen has broken out of 4chan and invaded 8kun.

>>16879

stop watching porn, looking at nudes, and fapping. These things are actually wasting your time.

>>17857

Big shame this place hasn't died yet.

>>13859

Kek.

>>13623

kek i remember they outright just called nofap "anti-semitic" one time and nobody bats a fucking eye

>>15514

Are you autistic?

>>15515

HOLY SHIT IT'S GLOWING SO MUCH!

>>15515

siege is glowshit. a backwards swastika means bad luck btw

Amen, brother. A strength of SAA is it can give you healthy relationships with other men, to make up for the probably shitty relationship you had with your father.

Also this is truth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6oOZbcvLY4

>>17622

How do you lose interest in a thing that you don't need to do anything for?

Just keep going if it's easy.

keeping your virginity becomes an actual thing once you stop fapping

for me, I just had to start taking care of my body

still haven't quit porn yet, day 2 tbh

I stopped fapping as much after I broke ties with all "friends" who kept talking about their (positive) views on porn, which is an essential in breaking any addictive habit (which is in this case, more addictive than meth and more widely available

>>12403

ohh I've been there

try not to go schizo and shoot up a gay bar, anon

>>12410

do at least meditation habitually, you bitch

>>12419

most headaches are caused by something you ate, unless it's all the coom that is normally released several times a day

u coombrain

>>12422

the testosterone high goes back down after the 7th day, try not to get discouraged by that (it comes back stronger after 30 days, permanently)

>>12425

>it makes me hornier

being less healthy makes you weaker, stop being a bitch boy and learn to deal with having strong emotions

>>12435

I at least admire your resolve

>>12495

>cow's milk contains phytoestrogens

>>12668

maybe if it's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>17704

>pathetic loser

reminds me of the people who keep telling me to "take my meds"

most of these people we make fun of are the intellectuals of society, and are being properly contained with vices like corn syrup, escapism, pornography

their effeminate minds are then susceptible to degenerate ideas like "atheism", "nihilism", "paganism" etc

even if someone like me (only upper-mid tier iq) became man enough to speak in public (and not read from a script), I would make so much more of a difference than 10 deleted youtubers

>>15238

Because this funny thread is worth the 2 year bump

>>10664

No one is naturally homosexual. If there was a gene for homosexuality it would obviously been bred out of existence. Homosexuality is learned either through porn or sexual abuse.

If you didn't have homosexual thoughts before you started watching porn I can assure you of you go on nofap you will stop being attracted to men.

>>10245

Definitely stop watching porn dude. When you watch porn, one of three things will happen: either you self-insert as the man, or you self-insert as a third-party viewer (ie, cuckoldry/bisexuality), or you self-insert as the woman (ie, autogynephilia). You apparently self-insert as the woman, which is probably the most common of the options since most pornography focuses very heavily on the woman's pleasure, causing you to sympathize with and eventually to identify with the woman primarily. This effect is multiplied a lot when you prefer lesbian or solo pornography. Searching for porn that focuses on the man's pleasure obviously won't help you, as that runs the risk of acclimating you to full-blown homosexuality. Stop watching porn, it's the only way.

>>15246

>Homosexuality is learned either through porn or sexual abuse.

The goyim know.

>Has anyone successfully stopped thoughts of autogynephilia by abstaining from porn and masturbation?

>Every time I ride my dildo and masturbate pretending I'm a girl an intense wave of depression comes over me when once I actually cum and starkly realize that I'm not, and will never be, a pretty girl.

>I don't think I'm gay or want to be transgender, since these thoughts only started building once I was in my mid-20s, so I'm assuming it's the result of too much pornography. I'm just wondering if it is too late for me or if there's anything I can do to reverse it.

>I've accepted that I need to work harder on actually being a man, but right now my sexual desires are that of a girl's, and so I have no motivation to enact that change.

Kek

Although I never had this fetish myself, for a while I've been observing it and people involved mainly due to visiting this place. And my theory is that it is all about humiliation and just as there are lots of people who hate women but love femdom, interracial fetishists hate niggers irrationally.

Now i'm no nigger lover, but your mind is under the influence of /pol/ virus which alters your perception of reality so that you obsses about race ("racemixing is dangerous" lol) and instead of seeing a pale female monkey of a race that does better on standardized tests copulating with a darker monkey, no, you see an AryanTM goddess getting defiled by orkish creatures representing your utter impotence and failure in an attempt to save the world from jewish gobli- wake up. Unplug yourself from this toxic media environment, get out. Not saying it's necessary to go that far, but I can guarantee you that spending a few weeks away from everything, perhaps camping would solve your issues.

By becoming a racist

>>17856

I thought you already had to be a racist to be into 'blacked' stuff?

>>17749

Race mixing is scientifically proven to be bad though. Maybe not catastrophic by your definition but making a brown faced monkey that doesn’t do as well on tests as his pale faced mother will effect the quality of a society if it happens on a large enough scale. The guy who founded blacked is Jewish. Al Goldstein was the father of American pornography and said explicitly that he did it to harm white Christians. There’s quotes from “Unclean Lips” where Jewish porn producers say that pornography is a tool of social control that makes people less violent and more open to suggestion. Whether you believe that this has a meaningful impact on modern life in western countries is up to you I suppose, but it is certainly a matter of fact that their are Jewish pornography producers that believe that what they do harms white communities and admit openly that it is their main reason for doing it.

>>17686

Look man, you’re going to spend a lot of time, possibly even years, looking for “one simple trick” to fix problems like this, but at the end of it you will discover that the answer is to just stop watching it. Trust me, I know how that sounds to you right now but whether it’s interracial porn or fast food or drugs, the answer is to remove it from your life for a while, and once your brain figures out it was actually harming you, you’ll develop a distaste and avoidance of it. Do one bad habit at a time because you will have intense urges to relapse, there is no getting around that. Just do what I do and think “if I eat this burger/ jack off/ do drugs the Jews win.” Extremely motivating imo

>>17858

Wow this board is dead.

Japanese erotic doujins.

>>17858

bump

So, you feel powerful, yet also feel like a fag from not fapping? seems like a contradiction to me, don't stress too much about it, you have suffered enough, remember that fapping is a choice, and you already decided you will be better off not fapping, so just disregard the activity, don't let it occupy your mind for a moment, if you start having sexual thoughts don't entertain them for too long, accept them as they are a natural thing, just don't let them control your actions, from all that shit you indulged in while young, it's there with you and you will have to accept it, also, you will have to forgive yourself as to not let it keep controlling your life and actions, only when you accept yourself as you are know, traumas and all, you can strive to be better, and you will be if you don't continue dwelling in your past actions, you didn't kill anyone, you didn't rape anyone, you went to pull the cow's leg, reprehensible yes, but it could be worse, and you can be a lot better, remember that, and remember there's no real reason for fapping, by fapping you are extracting the very manliness from you, leaving you weaker and unmotivated to pursue the things you really want in life, that and effectively making yourself dumber and incapable of concentrating.

I've been indulging myself, fapping everyday for the last week, wasting my time, I'm 28 years old, thanks for sharing your story, reminded me of my own goals I've nee choosing to neglect, see it like this, we don't wanna enter our thirties addicted to fapping, grown man addicted to rubbing their own cocks for dopamine like laboratory rats?, no man, we can be better off.

>>17554

Thanks for the advice, I'm very grateful.

>if you start having sexual thoughts don't entertain them for too long, accept them as they are a natural thing, just don't let them control your actions

I'm currently fighting with that. Actually when I think about it, the faggotry induced out of nowhere is actually connected within the need of sex, and in that need of sex are my memories of watching shemales and stuff. You know I've been raised in 4chan and even if you pay excessive attention, weirdness catches you here but there. It goes in my subconsciousness as I guess, "I'm male and if I banished my own self for having male ways of sex, if I cannot have active pleasure, then as I know ways of passive pleasures, which do not even belong to male nature, I should use them".

I think this is the kernel thought which I should avoid and tame over time.

I quit using computer and internet regularly after opening this thread. This also seems to be quite effective. looks like it's been over 2 weeks, and once about 4-5 days ago I've got this extreme pressure of want of sexual pleasure, what you talked about above. Fought through it about an hour, tried to distract myself and kept reminding myself of reasons and not to be regretful again for few seconds of pleasure etc etc.

I've been through it and now in the last few days I've had couple of intensive headaches, which I think have to do with no fapping. I'm alright right now, whenever I have a glimpse of a sexual thought in my head, as soon as possible I think it's gross in any way and flesh is gross, it's just flesh and earthly endeavour which only animals do and I'm no human cattle.

it works. I think I can break thru this time. I'll come back sometime later. Take care anon. In anything about life, the sooner the good decision, the better everything.

>>17563

>>17550

Accept what I say is true and humble yourself.

You're an interconnected creature. If you can run well you can squat well. If you can type quickly you can flip a butterfly knife more easily. And importantly for you, if you have resolve in one part of your life it'll reach into others. Do small things that are annoying to do but are good for you (avoid sugar a few days, read a little, etc) and eventually it'll be easy for you to pick yourself up and run around the block. It'll ultimately set your sights on the long term.

The key to your gayness is incentivism, I'll explain: There's incentive in plucking hair off of a fallen piece of food and carefully cleaning it but it's not enough to outweigh the effort and loss before the gain. You can have sex with a man in the asshole but it's dirty, embarrassing, unclean, not as pleasant as a vagina, etc. Why pick clean the fallen food when you can toss it and claim an easier, greater bounty, and why approach a man when something far more pleasing is just the other way? This may seem like a parable, but just how self control grows within you, so does homosexuality. It's a behavioral disease. Identify what your habits where the gain doesn't outweigh the loss in the long term. Masturbation is one of them.

>>17550

About the bioenergy, I remember being a kid and playing Bloons Tower Defense 5 on my iPod outside in the cold, and it would be on the verge of dying, and then I'd try to warm it up with pressure from my hands, and it would actually regain a couple percent of charge. It was super weird and even then I knew there was something strange but wouldn't have guessed that. I mean maybe the heat was just making the voltage go up but not actually recharging it, but I'm still willing to give some weight to this theory as the battery seemed to be able to be kept going almost indefinitely this way rather than only going partially back up to where it went up to when I'd done it before.

just read this book:

https://easypeasymethod.org/easypeasy.pdf

and find a friend to talk to

Not bad. You're getting there, but there are holes in your concept.

You must deny yourself masturbation and mutual companionship. Orgasm is a momentary pleasure, but a happy relationship will make you soft.

It's true women are parasitic. I mean, people in general are. Men want sex, so it can be argued that they are, though women cannot maintain relationship stability so they end up destroying them with selfishness.

The layers of the matrix are deeper than you think. You woke up from a dream and you think you're in reality, but you're in another dream.

Those people on fail compilations who get injured or die for stupid reasons. People who end up being tortured and killed or imprisoned.

Pain and lack of pleasure don't cause unhappiness. You get used to them. Likewise, you get used to pleasure and lack of pain.

Why not go the other way than the hoards of people trying to make their lives better, and deny yourself everything? Test that theory, that you can never be unhappy.

We're no different than bacteria growing on a petri dish. We can never be truly happy or unhappy, thus we can make all the wrong decisions. Why be smart, why think, why even try to wake up like you say?

You're taking an inconsequential object, masturbation, and making it out to be some sort of devil. Possibly because it appears as an angel to those who don't know any better. There are no angels or devils. They are in your head.

I agree, stay away from all forms of social media. I thought I was safe on thr SFW boards on 4channope. Redditnope. All of it is designed to bury its users in a ditch of misery and dependency. Don't fall for it, anons.