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 No.18127 [Open thread]

Merry Christmas to anyone that still lingers this God forgotten place, It's been almost two years since I was set on quitting the fapping addiction, and everything is still the same, I'm pathetic fapping on the daily, without an erection even, just to reach orgasm, I reckon that I have allowed myself to relapse time and time again. Turning thirty next year, don't wanna have this ball and chain anymore, hope 2022 will be your year anon, I'll be trying hard, (to not rub while hard) too.

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 No.2884 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

I think, we need to confess which particular matters trouble us the most, so that someone who efficiently fought the same urge would help us somehow. Or, on the contrary, someone NOT into our degeneracy might convience us why we should not like what we like, induce revusion, find something disgusting enough we will be able to counteract our desires further on.

As the last measure, just shame into revulsion. It's easier to avoid something we feel shame for when we see some external disgust, then when it is kept strictly a private matter and we can lie ourselves it's alright. noB8, self-esteem is overrated, life is perfectly operable without one. Lots of succsessfull people have always had low self-esteems. And what's the point of having one when you are still weak anyway and do not deserve it? It's just a lie.

Spoilered links to your degeneracy are a must.

I'll start:

Heterosexual furries.

https://e621.net/post/show/370037

Remember, niggers: don't open links if that's your thing. If you do, you are what's wrong with this world.

Don't hesitate to answer posts already answered to - the more help - the better.

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 No.18076

Impregnation, Lolicon, NTR, Gangbang. In that order and occasionally combined. I tried nofap and that lead me to craving real CP due to the immense PMO pangs I was having. Best thing I ever did was catch some on edenchan and realized that there was a spark of decency deep inside me.

Immediately lost the pangs and felt disgusted with myself. Since then I've been weaning myself off porn, starting by cutting out the lolicon and its working. I feel more and more disgusted everytime I do it, and it excites me less and less.

Hell for a long period of time I couldn't even get off to porn that wasn't drawn and extremely degenerate. But now I can easily do so, and further prevent myself from hitting the cursed shit.

I wish I had started before I became an adult, as PIED has kept me a closet virgin for a few years now, and its clear that lolicon is no longer tolerated even by the internet. (And the internet tolerates a lot of degenerate shit).

But I see a light at the end of the tunnel.

I think I can beat this.

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 No.18085

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>>2884

Forgive me Anon for I have cummed. Its been 12 years since my last confession. I keep having wet dreams every seven days. Sometimes I wake up and fap furiously in defeat. I cant get over my ex at a deep emotional level. As for my animal urges I have burned into the back of my eyelids a few porn videos of girls showing off their naked bodies in public wearing drops of cum on their face at the drive thru and shocking cashiers. I have had the regularly occuring opportunity for sex with incredible women I never thought would be in my league but I would rather read Schopenhauer for years than spill my seed, my life force. I do not have the money or patience to deal with horny sluts adding to the horny distractions I suffer on my own from my life's work. I want to be a master craftsman not a master baiter of masturbators. I'm going to the laundromat to clean my sheets today. Huge load this time. Some of you guys are alright. Dont go to the laundromat this morning.

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 No.18086

>>18085

Im going to shoot someone guys when I get to the Laundromat Im going to EXPLODE (with cum)

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 No.18116

ok then I will use this as confession/journal I guess.

I am tired and I think I am fucked beyond repair. I have had sex twice in my life, once with a bimbo looking escort who was riding me pretty rough and was actually hurting me so she stopped and simply jacked me off while I sucked her tits. And also a girl I met once on Tinder who was clearly desperate, we actually had a good time but I couldn't cum at all…

I can't seem to break away from my desires, the way I envision myself, what truly deep down brings me pleasure. I don't enjoy being alpha or dominant, I feel it comes off cringy from someone like me, I am 5'4 average, with a very nerd looking dude, I am already 33 and have nothing to bring to the table for a healthy partner in a relationship. I also struggle with the idea of taking charge and leading with masculine energy.

Ever since I can remember I had feared growing up and becoming a man, I have dreaded it to the point that I fantasized becoming a little kid again, even a baby. That eventually made me solidify my desires with my sexual awakening and fucked me up so deeply that today I am a very strange "adult". Some people might have heard of autonepiofilia, infantilism or abdl, the thing is, for me, arousal comes from someone taking care of me, showering me with unconditional love and making me feel cherished, protected and adorable… I dont want to be HOT I want to be CUTE for a girl, I want to generate in them a motherly instinct so they will take over, it has been all my life like this so of course I have never have had a relationship being driven by sexual fetishes away from more healthy bonds.

I got into erotic hypnosis as well big time, going to bed while playing subliminal messages, getting files that promised me to become more like a baby, even fuck up my genitals and receive pleasure from wetting uncontrollably in a diaper (I wish this was a lie). Although I got really little progress, the little progress, even today, compels me to keep trying to achieve the full experience. Removing body hair, being incontinent, unable to achieve erections, the internet will provide support for even your wildest and most fucked up desires yet.

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 No.18120

Sex

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 No.18115 [Open thread]

i have to do nofap or i'll face the consequences which are absolutely dreadful and terrifying.

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 No.18101 [Open thread]

My experience of doing NoFap for 4 years straight… https://youtu.be/H-wn2cTivD4

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 No.18103

File: b0965a150a842fb⋯.png (173.16 KB,236x276,59:69,ClipboardImage.png)

lol. pic related is (you)

you're way over your peak, boomer. i hope you have a family and blood related kids, because if you don't, there's an expiration date on how long you can read the vedas, spout nonsense, before you fucking kys

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 No.18104

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 No.18105

>>18103

sup CIA stalker… What a fucking loser you are. I'd love to meet you face to face, bitch

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 No.18106

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>>18105

Ok. You called me a stalker so I looked you up. Did you, or your now departed parents live in Bensenville, Illinois?

And what the fuck are these boomer happy holiday things you did?

You DID know that gajablife.com let GOOGLE index your retardation, right?

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 No.18107

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>>18105

also i'm guessin you're samefagging with 1 or multiple accounts on godlikeproductions and with your retard incel friends

let me tell you no one gives a fuck about a bunch of boomers thinking they can do gay ass magic by reading yoga sutras

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 No.17827 [Open thread]

Every night for the past 3 days I've been having wet dreams.

I don't understand why I'm having them though, I've managed to reach three weeks without fapping before and I had no wet dreams.

Why am I having them and how do I stop them?

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 No.18093

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>>17827

You are mentally a coomer still if you indulge in sexual license even without touching yourself. Your mind will take over in your sleep and do what most of you has been trained for. Watch your thoughts!

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 No.18096

had the same problem. i had wet dreams every day and sometimes twice a day

the thing is i was sexually stimulated by my thoughts and females i saw IRL

you need to master your thoughts

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 No.18098

File: d115986448931e1⋯.png (46.33 KB,414x352,207:176,ClipboardImage.png)

also flex/clench your ""cock"" muscles as soon as you're conscious

if you're slowly leaking precum+piss you're fucked. you can't be a conscientious objector to that, faggot

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 No.18100

I've had some very realistic wet dreams when I was a fapper and I haven't had any since I started nofap, so don't think there's any correlation.

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 No.18080 [Open thread]

I've recently started taking zinc supplements for health reasons unrelated to nofap.

I feel like I have much more energy but I've also become a massive coomer.

Before I could go 5 days without fapping minimum, now I'm fapping daily and even fapped twice the other day.

How can I stop while still taking the supplements?

They give me much more energy but also increase the urge to fap by x10

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 No.18097

supplements are a meme. fucking faggot. even with zinc. yes. you heard me. faggot

you're also a liar, you did not in fact have had more sexual urges and more energy caused by zinc. you can tell yourself that, but not to the most redpilled community of gamma radiation grinding horse shoelace chewer anons out there

even your mom has mustache on her toes

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 No.8367 [Open thread]

Our threads have ~20 posts each which is not efficient, this makes the good old threads vanish

Lets fix it with generals! BO, make this a sticky

What effects do you observe during nofap? Do you observe the effects others anons do?

For me the objective effects are as follows

>I want to sleep earlier, so sleeping schedule is normalized

>I need an~hour/2 hours less time to sleep and I feel much more refreshed when I wake up

>I now see dreams, multiple ones during a night

>the white dots on the fingernails are gone

>varicocele gone

>I had a jelly like fat thing under the penis head on the right, apparently it formed from fapping too much, the less I fapped the smaller it became, it was 5mm thick and 1 cm long after fap, now it's flat

The subjective effects are the standard package

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 No.10796

>>8830

The shrinkage is reversed though after you get blood back into it a few times.

Honestly have considered getting one just to beat this once and for all.

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 No.10816

>>8623

You could be a porn actor

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 No.11361

>>8601

>literally having big balls equates to also figuratively having big balls

>but dont actually make your balls literally bigger though, you dont need that. it's better if you just pretend

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 No.18094

>>9653

I've been witholding the fap this way with fasting but goddamn it am I skinny

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 No.18095

>>8784

kill yourself

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 No.17493 [Open thread]

I'm 17yo but I started watching porn since I was 8yo, and I just wanted to ask, am I fucked - not literally -? (I mean in the brain stuff, and if the answer is yes, how much and can I recover?)

I have some ADHD syntoms, Depression and Social Anxiety and I'm thinking maybe it's because of fapping and watching (((PORN))).

(Sorry if my english is not that good, English is not my naive language)

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 No.17501

bump

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 No.17548

>>17493

>am I fucked

It's not black and white. Everyone is kinda fucked; most have the same experience as you, especially if they're under 40. The phenomenon is basically worldwide.

Don't worry too much about how you got here, though. You are what you are, and you have to live in the present, so focus on making the right decisions in the present. There's always a better and a worse outcome for your choices. Resisting useless and self-destructive temptations strengthens the will, which tends to be the "fucked" part of the brain.

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 No.17862

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OP here, I just wanted to ask if porn and masturbation does something to the amygdala.

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 No.17865

>>17862

probably, since masturbation lowers test and test affects how big the amygdala grows

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 No.18087

File: 4b6f2a58e35d446⋯.jpg (87.98 KB,640x776,80:97,bonerjuice_apu.jpg)

>>17493

>>17493

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZkbkySTbdk

Zinc depletion makes you suceptible to mental illness.

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 No.17761 [Open thread]

Hi guys, I just wanted to lay down some of the things that can happen to you when you're not serious about it and what happens when you've been consuming porn for years.

That being said, your judgement on my actions would justified and if you people deem me a degnerate, I understand.

When I was a kid, I got molested by my uncle, and throughout the years, that memory was blocked out, a memory so painful and traumatazing that it left me doing things that I would never have imagined.

My porn consumption started out when I was very young, at the age of 11-12, it started out just finding some flash games and those new grounds meet n' fuck game if you remember.

But as the years went on, it got worse, fetishes got more absurd and counter to my nature and it got to the point where my number fetish was shemale and gay porn.

I would go on cam sites and talk to old men who fetishized teenage boys and have chatted with them on cam when I was underage.

Granted this addiction was a great source of shame and excitement, the more I did it, the more I though about meeting some of these men, not because I was attracted to them but because I wanted to feel something besides the shame and focus on the excitement.

I never did meet those people though, thank god. But a couple of years later I found myself in gay chats chatting with the same teenage boys that I was, I told myself well since I did it, it's not that big of a deal.

And then I started chatting with this gay guy and he incited me to download Grindr, and then that was just the start of the end. I met up with men near my area, and after each encounter, I felt more sick to my stomach, but the porn was always there, inciting me to do something more… always something more.

Then my infatuation with trannies just got worse, I started hiring trans escorts to humiliate me and degrade me, because as I saw myself I was a lost case, not deserving to be happy or just be straight.

Fucking years went on, now I'm 25 and every of my sexual partners have been men, even though, everytime that I did this, I just asked myself what is wrong with me, I don't even like doing this

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 No.17830

>>17823

You'll never get forgiven because you're a kikejew faggot.

"If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn't do it, it is sin for them."

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 No.18070

>>17762

Thanks for being so understanding, one thing that I've realized by rereading my post, is that I got the impression that I was trying to justify my self-abuse and degenerate behaviour because of past experiences. Although at this moment I am not practicing no-fap, I've gone back to my home country and I have gotten closer to my roots, which unequivocally has reinstated some masculinity in me.

To make a long story short, I think one of the biggest faults that people make is to seek self improvement only when they are practicing no-fap, which can be very detrimental when you relapse.

>You've got to get after the future and not let the past weigh you down.

Inadvertently, by always thinking my past mistakes, I've had the luxury to get to know in specificity my faults, but also where my strengths lie, I've built up confidence from withing not only through no-fap and I think I'm ready for the long haul.

>>17787

>Three things happen when you get injected with the Fallen light. 1. You Abuse yourself 2. You abuse Others 3. You take the Negative Energy and transform it in a Positive Energy

One thing that I think has helped me a lot is this statement you made. Furthermore, I think I can rest easier than most because I've never directed my abuse towards others.

As I'm writing this, being in my homeland for the first time in over a decade, it helped me reflect on the vanity I've had when I'm living in the western world. Mind you we have our faults, but here there is no other options for a man but to conduct himself in a proper masculine manner. The things that would take weeks of no-fap to have, like walking up with your head high, squaring your shoulders, being more assertive or social have come more easily here because people dont let that shit slide here.

Although, I did not see the value of having a connection with God initially, I think that he is the only path for redemption, the only path for hope and the thing that will save me from my past and light up a new path for everyone.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.18073

I've been doing a lot of self-reflection about how porn has fucked me up bro, and you're not the only one going through shit like this. I'm even afraid to think how many people are having the same experiences.

The problem with porn is that you always need to find something new to feed the addiction. You start off with stunning looking girls, but soon that's not enough, so you move to old, ugly, obese cunts, d/s, hardcore d/s, a long list of fetishes, but that's not enough. Then comes the scat, piss but it's not enough. You then have the choice of either going illegal (bestiality, underaged, rape, other shit that will get you jail time in many countries), or going legal but up-to-that-point completely disgusting to you. Usually that's fags, sissies, trannies, etc. Now suddenly you've turned from a reasonably healthy straight male, as nature intended, into a phycological faggot, because you can easily get hard watching the new fag stuff, yet the old girl stuff just doesn't cut it for you.

It's not long before you're taking pics of yourself dressed up and chatting up guys online.

I've never met guys for sex, but I was mentally ready to go and enjoy it, despite being married.

Believe it or not, when I arranged a first meet, Jesus Fucking Christ came to me in my sleep and told me it's all devil's work.

Fuck me, I don't even believe in the guy and here he is fucking talking to me. After a bit of a shock I cancelled the meet, threw away the sissy clothes before mrs found out and managed to stay away from it for a whole 18 months, then back to the same shit.

Cancelled the second meet too, but this time because I've realised that I won't be able to look my kids in their eyes if I went off fucking men on the side.

But I wanted it not because I was ever attracted to men, but because of the self-destructive, degenerate nature of the act. And these desires were built up by years and years of porn.

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 No.18074

So, although your case is quite a bit more fucked up than mine, there's got to be a way for you going forward.

Can't give you any advice on religion bro - my imho is that shit exists to fuck up your mind, almost like porn does.

First of all stop feeling shit about what happened. That's in the past dude. Everyone does things they regret later in life. If you never went down the porn->fag route, you would have done other shit that you'd be feeling sorry for right now. Relax and think about the future. Porn would have got to you in other ways too. Instead of being ashamed about fucking guys, you'd feel ashamed about wanting to fuck underaged girls, animals or some other shit.

Second, break the PMO cycle if you're on it. For good. Because if you come back to PMOing, you're back in the "porn novelty" spiral and back to self-destructive behaviour.

Once you're free from PMO, your head should clear.

Don't try and repress the faggy feelings inside you. They are not really faggy feelings. They are porn addiction.

You're not missing out on anything by not being an ugly-tranny-faggot-fucker. In fact you're not and have never really been an ugly-tranny-faggot-fucker because you were doing all those things while trying to get yet another high to feed the porn addiction.

You're a porn addict. And porn addiction manifests itself in constant search for novelty, no matter how disgusting.

Understand the porn addiction, kill the porn addiction, get back to having a life.

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 No.18084

>>18070

OP here to just to clarify

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 No.18065 [Open thread]

Nofap my arse.

I thought I'd join your cult, but I've only lasted 3 days.

All was going fine, and I even porker the wife a couple of times, but all went to sh.t today.

The dumb neighbour slut just had to sit in the sun in her front garden, drinking wine with her girlfriends, showing off her legs. A little feather tattoo on her left foot and white pedicure. Oh fuck.

I got my hunting binos out, hid behind a curtain and jizzed all over the floor.

I know I'm a tosser, but I blame the stupid cunt next door.

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 No.18066

Nofap in general is not very effective (been doing it since 2015 myself). Unless you actually understand and isolate the causes of your addiction, you'll most likely never quit, or be in a constant state of suffering/irritation because you've stopped PMO.

Read this (free book):

https://easypeasymethod.org/

Describes The causes of pornography addiction and breaks down why pmo'ers do what they do.

Don't stop PMO'ing while reading (if anything do in more often).

I needed to re-read it about 3-4 times (includes audiobook) and about 6 months before it finally clicked. Been over a month so far. Never been so happy before :')

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 No.18068

Thank you very much anonybro.

Half way through the book. Yesterday decided to stop fapping for good.

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 No.18081

Ok anonybros.

2 weeks since I stopped fapping.

So far so good. Only serious problem I have is that I get a rush every time I see a pic/video of a sexy female (e.g. young bitches in undies popping up in google ads as the ms has been shopping online). Even worse irl - had a dumb young cunt flirting with me and my brain went into complete overdrive.

Used to be a lot easier to handle things like this when I was a degenerate fapper. I guess it should pass as I live out my life as a non-user.

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 No.18082

>>18068

>>18081

I'm glad it helped you anon.

As for the rush you feel, get used to them. Unless you're going to be a monk in a faraway monastery, stimulating material will be shoved in your face, by your friends, adverts, society, even family at times.

However when you stumble upon them, think about what is causing the urge; is it the little monster (your primal brain), or is the big monster (societal upbringing/brainwashing).

To me the big realisation moment was when I read someone else's interpretation (from this book). He mentioned that most of the time the urges come from the big monster. That simple idea was enough to help me stop for good.

As most men, I've been just as badly influenced by society which is filled with sexual imagery and hedonism. Now that I understand where my urges are coming from, I become content and at ease when I do accidentally view something erotic.

Still have a way to go, but with a mere mind change, the task of simply not watching porn or masturbating has become easy (because it's the mindset that makes it difficult).

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 No.18083

Cheers anonybro.

Yes - understanding the big monster concept helps a lot, and quitting PMO for the sake of PMO seems easy - a large proportion of porn starts to appear rather disgusting. I've had only a few strong pangs to open up some "select" porn and fap to it, but it's easy enough to extinguish them by reasoning with myself that there is no such thing as good porn. Whenever such pangs happened, I'd just do some physical exercise to burn some energy and distract my mind.

I've quit drinking about 8 years ago, without any book or method, but with a very similar instant cut-off of alcohol intake, and in these 8 years I only remember one time when I had an urge to drink and was close to having a whisky.

The act of others offering a drink or having a drink next to me, however, does not grease the slide.

With porn it seems to be very different so far, as any offer of a new sexual partner - the hook that porn uses to embed itself in your brain - seems to grease the slide.

So, I am coming home late after meeting some friends, a bunch of drunk girls fall out of a pub right in front of me, one of them nearly splooshes all over the pavement when she sees me walking by and starts throwing herself at me. I'm not interested at all (the bird is fucking ugly, not that it matters as I've got the mrs at home), but the slide is now greased and I'm overwhelmed with the urge to release. Mrs is already asleep after a long & shit day, and I'm not fapping to porn, so I then spend the next day completely unable to concentrate and do any work, losing my mind to the little monster's pangs until I finally get to pork the mrs in the evening (which has become a lot more enjoyable after quitting porn).

So the little monster seems to jump out every time SOMEBODY ELSE greases my slide. That's the annoying bit.

The other time was when I took my kids to a playground and a teenage bitch-in-heat decided to flirt with me every time her mother wasn't looking. Again, I'm not interested in the slightest, but the offer itself greases the fucking slide - almost instantly and Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.18079 [Open thread]

Give blonde some bbc

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 No.18078 [Open thread]

Capable people of terra. For too long we have been divided by petty tribalism. Too long have we been blinded to true purpose. Here at dosadm we wish to create a nation of thinkers, men of virtue, and humanities finest. Strength in numbers is the way, all for all. Let us colonise the stars, slay the xenos, manifest destiny. A forever expanding ethnostate Link gg/3TCfxV9J8k

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 No.18069 [Open thread]

hello anons.

i'm having quite a trouble quitting porn once its heavily affecting my life with my gf. sometimes during sex my dick just dont get hard, the erectile disfunction is real. basically my brain need more than that to make my dick hard.

tbh, i've known that porn existed when i was 9 or something, and i've been consuming this since then (i'm 21). 12 years of brain damage is being kinda hard to overcome.

i'm not asking for tips and tricks on how to quit this, but i'm trying my best. currently 2 porn-free days and this is an achievement for me. well, if someone here's on the same situation as me, reading relates of overcoming may make me feel better and give me encouragement, thanks for reading til here, just wanted to take this out of my chest.

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 No.18072

I know, porn-induced erectile disfunction sucks.

You're not alone anonybro, and I had an extra decade of porn addiction on top of your 12 years.

A very kind anon has recently directed me to this book.

https://easypeasymethod.org/

Worked for me.

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 No.18075

just don't watch porn. easy as that, goofball

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 No.18077

No it ain't.

Your porn addiction is fed via the Porn-Masturbate-Orgasm process.

So you cut out porn, but keep MO'ing, what do you achieve?

1) You want to sort out your PIED - well now you're just going to have fap-induced ED instead, and you'll be spending most of the time with your balls drained and zero confidence. Good luck getting it up for a real woman.

2) You want to get the time back in your life to do something useful with it - well you ain't, cause you'll still be edging for hours, fucking up your life further.

3) You want to stop the ever increasing degenerate behaviour? Well, what are you going to fap to? Memories of porn? Softcore? That girl you saw on the train today? Then you want more, so you eventually revert to fantasies about being fucked by your neighbour's dog. Before you know it, you're back in your bathtub with a 20-inch dildo up your butt, licking your own shit off your fingers while fapping yourself until you pass out.

Also, what defines "porn", apart from the obvious degenerate hardcore shit on PH, etc?

Is softcore porn?

Erotic hypnosis (no visual stimulant)?

Sex scene in a film?

Erotic comics?

Amateur-drawn My Little Pony erotica?

If kicking porn addiction is just about not watching porn, then I can dress up in my fluttershy fursuit, stick a horse tail butt plug up my arse and fap myself for hours while watching the first season of MLP (that's not porn, right?) before finally jizzing all over the VHS player. And that won't make me a porn-addicted degenerate?

Something doesn't add up, anonybro.

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 No.18071 [Open thread]

If you're trying to quit porn, quitting fap at the same time is ridiculous. It's a change of thinking and what drives the fapping, no? The goal should be to successfully fap WITHOUT porn. Actually thinking of your gf / wife / a recent date. Transfixing our thoughts to what's currently available, period. If nothing's currently available, then get out and meet someone - anyone - whom you're attracted to, THEN the key becomes NO FAP. Why? Because fapping screws up our pick-up mojo. It also screws up our relationship mojo, so fapping while a lady's physically available is not a good idea. Instead, you should be formulating plans to bed your lady.

If a lady's simply not possible (right now) because of your current situation, then look at no fapping in light of building up your ability to attract women. When we don't fap, we're at our Don Juaniest – we subconciously say and do the right things to attract a woman. Fapping fucks that all up, big league.

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 No.18029 [Open thread]

is it?

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 No.18067

If the semen contain sperm cells, and was freshly ejected, yes. Very much so.

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