/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous

I asked these questions in many places before, 4chan, wizchan, reddit MGTOW and Nofap, I looked everywhere, in books, listened to spiritual teachers and gurus. Some said I should keep an eye out for my waifu in real life, but I'm scared to fall for the wrong person. Others said embrace the emptiness, live with it, you won't be happy through others, happiness is achieved only through one's inner calm. I guess I'll give up on most of my life. Farewell then. Do you have any other thoughts on this? I'll be checking this thread from time to time, I'll keep you updated.

>>12779

full autism

>>12780

I'm OP. Was all of this thread autism or just this reply? (also mine). I want to know, why you think that. Maybe I'll help me. Tell me where I'm wrong and it'll help me grow. Thanks.

Fuck I can't do it, fuck. I love titties and pussy and ass too much, I don't care if it's not really me, it's my body, and my body feels great, my mind feels great when I'm looking at them. I don't care I lose energy and destroy my life, my life is shit to begin with. I want this divine nectar of the gods that is porn. I fuckin love it, I can't even go through the nofap test phase until Halloween. It's such a sacrifice for me to give up on three months of pussy, goddamn the heavens created women, we should worship them. Not the real ones, the real ones will lie, and cheat and break yoir heart. The ideal ones are in your mind, in your fantasy that is feeding on the porn you watch. Fuckin hell I'd be stupid to give up on life. Porn is my life, giving up on it would mean killing myself.

>>12786

What the actual fuck? I watched porn, and couldn't cum because I felt like shit. I felt like I'm never going to feel those women. I'm just staring at a screen like a sad fuck. I didn't care, but I remember how sad I feel after I cum. I'm living in fantasy at the expense of reality. I guess I'll keep going. I always feel like shit after I've come a bunch of times. I it's frequent, one cum is all it takes. If I've been away for a long time, I jerk it about four times then I cum to my senses.

After the last couple of days of edging, I had a wet dream and got reminded that I can't escape this. If I want pleasure, I'll lose energy. There's no easy way. Now I have this strong urge to watch porn again, and drink my cum, like I saw in some hypno video. I want it so bad it's crazy. I've never done something like this. I want things, things that some people say that are bad. What should I do? How can I find the things that I truly want?

>>12798

Why do you want to degrade yourself like that? You will regret it. I'm not saying this out of experience, I never got at such a level, only softcore shit.

Don't do it.

>>12798

If you resist the urge to take a peak your energy will build up until you use it for something positive. Never LOOK and you'll probably be OK. That being said if you do mess up and look at something you just got to hold on and don't let yourself keep taking peaks you just got to rewire your brain not to demand visual stimulation and after a while you'll be out of the habit.

>>12778

Real love does exist and is actually the natural ideal, but it requires that both people practice chastity and self control, something that's rare in the modern world

>>13197

I'm not going to drag myself through the dirt of heartbreak and cheating bitches just to find it. It's not worth it for me. I just want to stop having a reaction to porn. As of now, I'm at least immune to women.

I think visiting https://speeddaters.net/gaystryst-review.html will be the most correct solution for you now. There you can find something new and unique, which will be only yours and no one else's. I am sure that you will be satisfied that you have trusted me today, now.

>>12778

Love is friendship on fire + sexual attraction.

You're an incel OP, so it figures you write a TLDR on it because you're a faggot.

In the loneliest times of your day, there's no need for you to be bored anymore. There are a lot of dating websites on the Internet, and everyone can find a girl for themself. For example, https://coomeet.reviews/ is a perfect place for international meetings, and you can communicate with beautiful girls through video chat.

>>18088

I now care about politics, not elections: handshakes with people I can really meet and stick with.

I now care about business. I care about such meticulous practice and theory now I want others to zap out of the lull I was in taking it easy.

>3d

>waifu

keckles

you normalfags deserve to be unhappy

>>12778

giving you a more detailed reply today

>I understand how love is a concept

>chemical

>hormonal

you can call it whatever you want

when it happens it happens, the heart wants what it wants and you will know it

>Quote from another thread: "Sex is meant for procreation only. no matter how bad the urge is, you will know in your heart that this is true."

god created man to shit in the open

and yet we build toilets and sewers and water treatment facilities

>I don't want love, society told me I should want it, and my hormones helped associate their pull with the rationale behind love.

to be loved back is nice and dandy but to love is a necessity in life

if you do not love anything or anyone, you are literally wasting your life

doesn't have to be a person, it can be a hobby or your profession or whatever you love

without love there is no passion, without passion everything you do is half assed and crappy

>Reality is the biggest letdown, how can anyone say that reality is better than fantasy?

real life is a game with shitty story but great graphics. you know the saying

>I prefer dreaming of falling in love than actually falling in love and later falling out of it or getting my heart broken.

because you have an infantile concept of love in your head from disney movies and fairy tales.

which are made by men who are equally childish and overly emotional like you are.

it is not wrong to have this perception about how world should be. you just need to understand you do have those and that they are infantile and unrealistic. understand your mind, understand yourself

>So, all my dreams are gone. I have been daydreaming about a 3d waifu, since I was 5.

>3d

>waifu

that's not the way this works sonny ..

every anime pro will confirm it

>I've been dreaming of a perfect companionship for 17 years and masturbating to porn for more than a decade

you are dreaming of unicorns. there is no perfect companionship. nobody has this on this planet. Pretty much all liasons end eventually. Even if someone is to marry, they are 50% likely to divorce. Even if they never divorce, many marriage partners are quarrelling all the time. It is just normal for humans to have conflict over everything possible. Over ressources, over who washes the dishes or trivial crap like what type of sofa they want in their living room.

>traits that would make her a good mother, traits picked by my subconscious.

you never fall in love with a person. you always fall in love with the perception you have of said person. you know in the dating game people lie and overstate their "worth" big time. so you see, most relationships begin as either lies or lies by omitting omitting that you are kind of crazy, omitting that you have a shitty habit, etc so you can draw your counterpart in, until you feel safe enough to let your imperfections out in little bursts, hoping to not appal the other person.

>So how can I dream about our lives together if they're just a strategy of my genes to get me to reproduce, and not real, pure, uninterested love? I just follow my body's agenda, I'm not actually choosing someone in the real life to love.

you are reacting to your reptillian brain. that is true. however, you also must understand that you are capable of thought.

you don't have to follow the reptillian brain. you can actively choose to love someone or something.

>I'm not actually choosing someone in the real life to love.

the author of "the 5 love languages" argues that true love is a conscious decission you make after the "infatuation" period of you falling in love is over. read the book if you want more insights into it

>What do? I see one way, which is dangerous and the other is sad and empty. The dangerous solution is to remain aware of reality, but still dream, still live how I would have wanted, but in my fantasies. Keep watching and enjoying romantic movies, keep my waifu etc.

does this give you fulfillment?

watching chick flicks and fantasizing about your imaginary wife?

if it does and does not harm your functionality in real life, why stop it?

>>18148

part II

>This path is dangerous because porn is also a big part of my fantasy land.

porn is not the culprit here per se. everyone needs some inspiration from time to time. the problem with porn is that you dopamine junkies cannot stop pushing the porn button and overdose day after day until your dicks are incapable of getting erect to normal stuff so you go deeper and deeper into perversions and fetish crap.

you need to reduce the amount of pron but increase the emotional quality you get from it. why not imagine some romantic fap session with that girl you are crazy after. rather have 2 of those sessions per week then endless porn orgies with eyeball licking fetishism

and for the porn addiction. you must find something else to do all day long. find a hobby or find an art or craft you can master

it will give you fulfillment if you do it every day and see your own progress. you are a porn addict because you have no other source of dopamine in your life anymore.

>The sad alternative is abandon everything that is associated with love, and live alone, celibate, in real world as well as in my dreams. Abandon everything, daydreaming while listening to music, movies, books, strip everything that is not the product of my rational mind. This emptiness I feel imagining this scenario is scary.

yes do that and you will become a zombie, spree killer, terrorist or the next hitler.

you must love. love gives us fulfillment. it can be someone or something you love

but when you forsake love, you forsake life too

>What am I supposed to do with my life now? When I listen to music, half of it is about love, so it's just fake now, half of movies are about love,

how can you not enjoy songs about love. when I listen to ed sheeran i always rejoice from within. it is beautiful.

you don't have to be jealous of others for what they have. try to find something you love so you can share their enthusiasm

>I can't play vidya, they're repetitive, I am left without 70% of my daily activities. I guess I won't buy a ps4 pro this Christmas.

video games are literally the lowest of the lowest tiers of all art even lower then anime

they are made by adult children for children and manchildren. it is the greatest waste of not only time but also money

it is okay to play a few games every now and then. but you should not become that basementfag who spends 9hours a day on WoW

>I guess I won't be watching those love story animes,

anime is trash. it is childish it is cheesy trash even more then hollywood is. anime is part of the reason why you have an infantile view on love

get into real art. artistic movies (not blockbusters), literature, paintings and so on. anime is for children and manchildren who are stuck in the past

and worst of all, it is what keeps you form developing as a human

>>18149

part III

>I won't play all those video games on my list,

games are waste of time anyways. learn a craft, a trade, master an art whatever but don't waste enless money and time on nothing

it is okay to play half an hour per day or for 3 hours a week in one session. or if you have a favorite game to be online every now and then

but that is to cool down after a stressful week and refill your energy again so you can do interesting things again

>I won't have my waifu to keep my mind company.

why not, nobody prohibits you from imagining her doing stuff with you

as long as you don't get a psychotic episode and jump from the balcony because you thought she wants to stab you to death because you fapped to another anime girl

>I'm so sad that love is not real that I'm crying.

love is real for millions of people, you just never experienced it because you were either too much of a scary cat or not worthy of a relationship.

or do you think the songs and movies are all fake? maybe some are fake but not all can be fake. especially the emotions cannot be faked

you see the thing is, in real world, love always comes with conditions. that is what you call the "dating up" thing.

so you can either become a winner and work on some characteristic that makes you special or cry for the rest of your life that you are not worth of love.

it is your free choice

>I wanted to become a director, but now I realize I would be making fake stuff that I don't believe in.

that was a great dream. why did you give up?

imagine quentin tarantino was once a nerd like you are. in fact he still is. he is a foot fetish faggot and he does not even try to hide it.

he is a weirdo like from the textbook. however he makes great movies and everything is forgiven.

that could be you. you could be making great movies. enjoyed by millions of people all over the world.

who cares if they are real or fake stories. in fact we crave the fake stories because we know that real life is not spectacular for most of us. this is why we love movies

given that you are into movie making it also explains your overly emotional approach to life and love

you are a creative person. all creatives are the emo type.

so actually this is a strength even for creating art. since art is based on emotion and without emotion there is no art at all

>What am i supposed to do with my life? Reach enlightenment? Help others? I'll do these I guess. Please help.

this is yours to find out in the end.

nobody can do that for you. you must decide what you want to do with your limited time on the world.

but whatever you decide for. do it with passion. love the thing you do and you will naturally do it good.

good luck OP