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 No.17829 [Open thread]

How does one keep from getting aroused by mundane things like tile patterns, doorknobs and the state of Ohio? If you find those things titillating, they will be very hard to avoid, no matter how committed you are.

For example, I get turned on by the thought of women fainting. I used to collect images and videos of it happening, even though I never had a normal porn collection.

Now days I have my habit mostly under control, but I still get the urge to fap whenever I find a reference to a woman fainting. This doesn't happen often, but when it does I'm turned on right away, especially if it was unexpected.

How do I deal with this fetish? Is there a way to "un-kink" myself? Do I just have to live with it as best I can?

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 No.17846

>>17829

>tile patterns, doorknobs and the state of Ohio

how

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 No.17595 [Open thread]

Feels like I'm in pure hell. I'm suffering in fake pleasure. I've sank so low.

My self esteem was already low and because of constant fails, it went even lower.

And I fetishized it all. It all starts with some femdom and now I'm looking out for newest futa on male crap.

I'm disgusted with myself. Everything is shit and loathsome. I hate myself even writing this because it's all just useless blackpilling whining into the void.

I used to write a diary but the amount of failed promises there made it too embarassing and pointless to continue. Oh, the countless "This is it", "Now, I'll be clean for good", etc.

I even became somewhat religious because of this all but I can't help but think that it's over for me, I'm going to hell for sure because of how much I sinned and continue to sin daily. I ask God to give me strength to defeat this addiction but I don't know. Nothing's working out lately.

Starting to seriously consider ending it all anons.

I don't know how to get myself out of this hole, never felt so low in my life.

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 No.17657

>>17595 I used to be pretty heavily addicted to degenerate femdom fetish filth as well. Start by seriously realizing what is right and meant to be. "Alt-Right" AKA (peace and harmony) views and morals is my concrete foundation that has given me the insight and power to free me from this cucked degeneracy that has been spawned to destroy men. And believe me, many improvements take place and your brain rewires back to normalcy, you will view women the way nature intended. The fake illusion of the so called femdom fetish that your brain has been hijacked by via unnatural hyperstimulation and modern degeneracy will disappear over time, and will start loving to fuck tight PUSSY! It gets SO much better, DO NOT give up, our European ancestors fought hard for what's right. You can do it too.

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 No.17825

easypeasymethod(dot)org

You sound desperate. I was there. Take this, friend

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 No.17828

I am in the same situation you are in right now almost exactly and I want you to know that simply by you posting this, I can see its not just me, which has helped me a lot and given me more strength to fight these demons. God bless you anon.

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 No.17831

>>17595

kys OP. you're a faggot

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 No.17839

>>17595

Hey anon. Long post coming through, and forgive me for any inconsistencies or bad structure in-general, my capacity for meaningful conversation has been decreasing greatly in the past few months, along with my intellectual ability.

Complete abstinence from porn and masturbation is the only way for both your suffering wrong doings and lack of masculinity.

I recommend checking out John Butler (not the musician) on YouTube, specifically his video "Naturally" I watched in a very low state. It was a depressing night, I don't remember exactly what it was, these past few months I have had downs, that night I had suicidal thoughts. I watched that video, in the morning I had a major anticipation for something in my life, a sort of interview, I needed to be very calm. I meditated throughout the whole night due to insomnia, probably slept about 1 hour, I have never experienced something as bad before. But in my mediation I watched as hours passed. I wonder if I went into REM sleep. I was sitting down so I couldn't have fallen asleep, but the time passed as if I was sleeping, and although that night I couldn't achieve true peace and calm of mediation and prayer, it was good looking back at it, with no choice I got up at 5, barely sleeping but feeling fairly rested. Now this was about after a week of not seeing sunlight, I don't remember how exactly, 1 year back I sunbathed regularly and here I was not getting any sun for several days. And so, in the morning I decided to get some morning UV-A to help my fucked up Circadian Rhythm and for proper Dopaminergic Cycling. The interview was at 12 I think. Anon, I have never seen something so beautiful. It was the type of weather after a few days of rain and it being a clear sky. The air was clear, there was some wind, the sun powerful where I live but it was cold. Anon, I felt at peace. I knew at that moment depression distorts one's worldview. The true world is not what your mind encapsulates. The next day I needed to walk for school for the first time after a long time do not going due to Corona and mental fuckage, the whether was as beautiful. I almost cry thinking about that sky, the general feel. I live in a fairly rural area. I took of my shirt and walked around, took off my shoes and put my fePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.17822 [Open thread]

I've tried and failed many times in the past, but this time something is different. I'm currently about 3 weeks in and I didn't even plan on doing nofap, I only decided to stick to it about 7 days in once I realized what I can do.

Before I had a problem that I believe plagues 99.9% of nofapers and 100% of the failed nofapers. It is the build up of the sexual energy in the lower chakras which can only result in inevitable explosion, unless you learn how to pull it through the spine to the upper chakras. Now I'm using the term "chakras" here because it's the most popular term for energetic centers of human body, I'm not well versed in teachings that the term comes from. By opening the 2 lowermost chakras, you can instantly transmutate the sexual urge into power which can be used in any of the upper chakras depending on how far you pull it. I used to get very strong sexual urges several times a day and by focusing awareness to the pathway between root and sacral and then pulling it further up the spine to solar I learned that I can make the sexual urge die within 10 seconds after which I feel energized which can on a downside make it hard to sleep unless you learn how to direct it through the crown. With time, this process started happening by itself.

The problem is that attaining such ability is not easy and I really can't offer a concrete guide, only some guidelines. Meditate. A lot. Reach the state of perfect stillness. This is where the magic happens. Learn to control your awareness. Don't force it, the key is in the opposite - learn to let go. Awareness is like a magnet for energy and by focusing it on root you hook the energy which you can then drive wherever you want. But again and I can't stress this enough - don't force it. Working with awareness is opposite from working with muscles. You don't make it work, you let it work. I'd compare it to playing with a shy cat.

Also check out this clip: I know you'll find it cringe but it actually contains very useful advice, especially the part about water chakra which is a major concern for all of you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH-HT9WCtiQ

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 No.17819 [Open thread]

How can I control my genital disturbing me to do it? Anyone here had this problem too?

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 No.17795 [Open thread]

Something doesn't need to be pleasurable to save one from discontent. It only needs to be distracting enough to make you forget your inner discontent.

The average person is aware of society's downward spiral. Addictions to immediately rewarding activities and entertainment are increasing. The internet CAN be used in an appropriate manner, but it usually IS NOT. It makes people more reclusive, demoralizes people, and ends up making society fall apart even faster.

It isn't just porn. Sex (and the pursuit of it) also make you forget. You don't remember the bleakness of the real world when you pursue something with the assumption that you'll be happy when you obtain it. However, the despair is only greater when you fail to do so.

Manage to have sex with someone and you'll get bored after a handful of times. This is proven by a scientific survey, and one of the arguments against porn.

Have sex with a different person each time, you'll get into weird stuff. This is proven by how porn causes desensitization, however, this rarely happens from actual sex in reality.

A lot of people do nofap in order to get a real partner. This is progress, but its basis is mistaken. The concept portrays itself as an end in itself, rather than a step of the process.

Anything that distracts you from the dark and cold way the world is, from your bad memories and all of the bad experiences you've had with people, is a coping mechanism and it will spawn weakness.

Rejections will only drip more toxic waste into that dark pit. Whereas pleasure will only make it that much more toxic. Either way, you lose.

That's why surrendering and sinking into it is the only rational thing you can do. Your inner demons will never go away and the world will never cease to be a bad place. However, you can make yourself at home here. Accept the horrors of reality and you'll be free.

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 No.17901

File: 073c96fca9a9910⋯.jpg (78.23 KB,612x612,1:1,you_are_a_dumb_nigger_you_….jpg)

fuck you for making me read through that mental diarherra fuck you nigger

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 No.17785 [Open thread]

Joining this fucking cult again

Stress = binging

Hangover = binging

Need to find better ways to cope with stress

I weight lift and exercise regularly and if you looked at me. You wouldn't see a coomer, but what lies within is always invisible to the naked eye.

Banned from nofap for saying the gamer word and "bitch" so this'll be my temple.

So with that said: Hi!

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 No.17793

dunno why you would get any useful advice from a bunch of soyboys anyways

quality over quantity

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 No.17782 [Open thread]

i will quit masturbation from today wish me luck

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 No.17792

File: 3dfe302e1c47e85⋯.png (65.71 KB,656x364,164:91,1558220095227.png)

if you've never failed before, how will you understand how to stay away from it for 21 days?

pretty sure you meant that you will aim to find out what you did wrong, and refuse to quit each time you fail

in that case it will be easy

I don't believe in luck, but I hope you beat it anon!

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 No.17776 [Open thread]

What's with the extremely long flatlines? I have been doing this for a few months and after the initial extreme urge, I started to feel nothing. It's not even a challenge anymore. I had previous streaks, although with a bit more discipline, but then after a while I always started to be mega horny after a while.

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 No.17799

take viagra if you have to have sex.

otherwise know that

YEARS OF DEGENERACY CANT BE UNDONE BY MERE MONTHS OF ABSTINENCE

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 No.17711 [Open thread]

Just fugged up my journey trying to go 1year without watching "the junk" starting this december, I was thinking about posting my progress in some forum to commit myself seriously and stop playing around with my life, hope this is feesable here cause I used to lurk about.

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 No.17741

Merry christmas to all

Past Yesterday I watched again making it 3 times I did edging, usually for quite an amount of minutes, last time was minimum

I thought about leaving it out as a little white lie, but I dont want to carry out any sort of deception at all. And well, truth is gritty.

Hope you have a happy new years eve

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 No.17754

Day 13.

Got a whole bunch of things I'm doing

Been wrting a shitlot, getting back into running, working out mostly at home since holiday season, but going back to the gym restarting this week.

Past years new years resolution havent caught unto me mainly because they are plentyful.

But just figured day 13 since 23/12.

Talking to randos on the street, just a blast.

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 No.17758

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>>17741

Merry Christmas/Epiphany, anon. Hope you keep going strong this whole year and beyond

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 No.17764

File: 804d0afd349206f⋯.jpg (77.41 KB,1260x1428,15:17,1601103543077.jpg)

use your relapses to learn more about yourself, and choose to become stronger each time you fall down

how do you think we all learned to walk?

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 No.17774

"Everything will be fine as long as no one teleports bread"

R: I've done nothing for the last days but teleported bread

Same now, I did nothing or almost nothing but hunked the hog, edged all day and watch porn far and wide today, as long as I can control my pulsating

nerves there is a chance to survive, no more filth. I 'm done with this shit BYEEEEEEEEE

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 No.15652 [Open thread]

What about anal masturbation?

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 No.17362

You're a fucking degenerate

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 No.17570

File: c45f64dbbb60425⋯.webm (2.52 MB,1280x720,16:9,truedetective.webm)

>>15652

>What about anal masturbation?

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 No.17631

DA FUCK? I want to continue in my bubble thinking this is just a hoax I'll stick to my normal cock masturbation.

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 No.17720

I understand, as an alternative but… Anal Masturbation keeps you on shame Cycle. So It's better with No Alternatives. Just Do It.

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 No.17765

File: 5fbc7d2d13cd5af⋯.png (18.54 KB,128x119,128:119,2286_visible_disgust.png)

ANON NO

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 No.17755 [Open thread]

no fap is literally the reason why I realized I was gay

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 No.17756

File: 4d9b1aefdc7af8a⋯.jpg (126.78 KB,1080x1098,60:61,53142127_10214571404306826….jpg)

No, you're gay because you choose to be gay. Get away from the media for an extended period and get a gf

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 No.17760

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>>17756

lole lole lole

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 No.11141 [Open thread]

I’ve experienced better sleep and vivid dreaming since getting with nofap. Detail and lucidity are increasing with each sucessive night. It’s been a big motivator; I don’t want PMO to ruin my dream journal any more.

What’s your experience with this?

Post dreams and the night they ocurred on.

(nothing explicit please, obviously)

Morning of day 4 - I was carying a thin, sickly old man in my arms through a hotel. Then I realized he was Alan Watts and his breath smelled like alcohol.

Morning of day 5 - I was retrieving a white electric guitar from the bottom of my swimming pool. I got into a golden elevator and the walls started closing in, but I climbed up the walls. I remember making the Knuckles-climbing sound from Sonic Adventure 2.

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 No.11410

>>11409

You’re fine. I’ve had some dreams of this type as well; nothing explicitly sexual and the desire for kindness and emotional closeness. We’re all gonna make it brehs.

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 No.11411

>>11410

I think my brain has partially rebooted, I dont see women as objects anymore, hell I even care about the sexual part anymore.

I might be going through a hard flatline right now, because Im lacking any emotions of some short, except for negative ones guilt and worrying about the future.

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 No.11412

>>11403

I'd play that game

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 No.11413

>>11411

Curious,the opposite happened to me,i'm more self centered,i'm less emotional and i don't feel regret or empathy anymore,nofap turned me into a psychopath.

feels kinda good

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 No.17759

>>11141

I've used abstainance from masturbation in the past when I was very interested in lucid dreaming and had great results. Some of the most meaning moments of my life really. I had to mix in galantamine though to move the dreams to the "next level". The vividness I experienced in the dream was more real than real life, if that makes sense.

I've dreamt of my death. I fell into an endless ocean, in the center of which was a pit. The ocean was falling into this darkness. I fell from the sky, I saw tall Roman pillars in concentric circles that were sticking out of the ocean first. They were pure white contrasted against the roaring ocean beneath. As my descent came closer to the surface I saw the center. The ocean eating black hole. I fell into the hole. I was in a void, I thought I had died, truly believed it. I thought about my family first, and then I realized there was nothing I could do. Then I started to let go, of life. I felt a peace I never knew I could have as I stopped thinking. I was free from all the troubles of my life, and I was warm inside, happy maybe.

Then I woke up. I've got another dream too if anyone wants to hear it.

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 No.17745 [Open thread]

In a few days I'll hit the 6 month mark of nofap - the momentum this has generated makes it a lot easier to continue forward, and for the most part I think I am in the free and clear with very little risk of falling back my old ways at this point. I want to share my thoughts about this streak and how I managed to achieve it, after constantly trying and failing to break free over a period of 9 years. Whether this applies to you or anyone else, I truly could not say. It's fairly obvious to most, except for a few dim souls here and there, that while nofapping, you're not supposed to look at porn, but it goes beyond that. You truly need to avoid anything that could trigger an urgewave in you. The problem with urgewaves is that they reconfigure one's basic values in the moment by invoking apathy in the face of a greater desire, and it's entirely outside of one's control. Sometimes these moments can be pushed through with sheer willpower, but willpower is finite. The key, I have found, is to avoid the urgewaves altogether, as much as possible, by avoiding anything and everything that could trigger them. This means:

1. Do not look at porn (obviously).

2. Do not look at ANY media containing suggestive content like "softcore" stuff, suggestive-but-SFW type images, etc.

3. Do not look at ANY image that even invokes a slight tingle in your mind - even if there is nothing particularly sexual in nature about the image, it could be a fully clothed woman in a non-suggestive pose. If it invokes even so much as the slightest hint of desire, leave.

4. If you are on a website, or watching TV, or playing a game, where there is anything being posted or displayed that could trigger an urgewave, even if it's a SFW site or piece of media - turn it off, close the tab, go do something else.

5. If you see a pretty girl in real life - avert thine eyes. Do not check her out. Do not feed the beast.

6. In the end, the final boss - your brain - will do whatever it takes to go back, and will invent its own fantasies and mental pornography. I made the mistake of allowing myself to indulge in these mental fantasies in the past by rationalizing to myself that it was alright because it wasn't "real porn". This resulted in the destruction of some very promising strPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.17746

Now I'd like to take a moment to address the bad advice and opinions from cumbrains and porn addicts that I often see elsewhere on the internet, that only make nofap more difficult to understand, and confounded my own efforts especially early on.

1. "Bro, it's PORN that's the problem, not MASTURBATION. MASTURBATION is totally okay!"

Shut the FUCK up you drooling cocksucker, this is hands down the most dangerous, shittiest, and most useless piece of advice I've seen. Porn is merely a potent kind of fuel - masturbation is the vehicle that carries you to Dopamine City. Porn helps to facilitate masturbation, which is the entire point. Masturbation, sex, porn, and everything else - it's all forms of sexual stimulation to which we can become addicted, and are in fact collectively addicted. Even if you didn't watch porn and masturbate it is hypothetically possible for one to become a sex addict, were it possible for you to have an endless access to willing women every single day. If you want to overcome the actual problem that is harming your life, you need to stop masturbating, period.

2. "Bro, it's okay to masturbate in moderation."

Bit of a riff on #1, but a slightly different angle. Are you going to offer that same advice to a long-time, hardcore alcoholic? "Bro it's just one drink". It's never just one drink, and it's never just one fap. This is the whole reason for my advice above about avoiding all suggestive imagery - the moment you put your foot on the slide, doors start opening and before you know it you're slipping back down. If you are able to masturbate without porn in whatever a "moderate" frequency is, and continue with your happy and productive life, more power to you. But if not, don't delude yourself. Masturbation is not in itself inherently good or bad, but it does have an addictive dark side. If we didn't live in such a fucked up toxic clown world hell, then "masturbating in moderation" probably wouldn't be that big of a deal. What is moderation, by the way? When I fapped, I wasn't cranking it multiple times a day. My normal frequency was 2-3 times a week. That frequency seems like it shouldn't be a big deal, but I can say with absolute certainty that it was incredibly bad for mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.17747

4. "Bro, I need to fap to get Post-Nut Clarity™. That's when I make all my major decisions and have my deepest thoughts!"

If any of you ever browse half-chan /pol/ and have seen a nofap thread, you might have seen the german coomer who visits nearly every nofap thread to lecture us about Post-Nut Clarity - as if guys like us haven't been cooming for years and have no idea what he's talking about. The addict has too much brain fog to realize that we are all fully aware of the so-called "clarity" that visits you after orgasm, and we don't care. The fact is, Post-Nut Clarity is not some nirvana-like heightened state of mind that elevates you above what you've deluded yourself into thinking is a normal state of mind - what it really is is only a momentary reprieve from the compulsive desires to which you are a slave. In a sense, it's a momentary freedom from desire, when you are no longer dominated by your slavish "need" to fap. It's also a testament to just how subject you really are to some of the internal workings of your unconscious mind. If you fap, try to observe in the moment of your orgasm how your desire drastically shifts from 100% to 0% in a few seconds after finishing, and how it alters your behavior. That alone should humble an honest man.

5. "Hi, I'm a stupid idiot. I'm doing nofap but I edge for hours to porn. It's okay though because I don't cum."

I see these posts from time to time. Maybe they're trolling me, I'm not sure. It's hard for me to think sometimes that someone can be so addicted to tickling their pickle that they will delude themselves into thinking that edging, which is quite possibly the worst thing you can do to yourself, is somehow keeping in line with nofap. If this really is you, then try to realize that the fact that you have to compulsively touch yourself so much is a flaming red flag that is violently spinning at 50,000 RPM. Stop touching yourself. In my view these guys are really no different in principle than the "masturbation in moderation" and "it's porn not masturbation" guys. They are all operating on different flavors of the same delusion for the purpose of avoiding confronting our individual and collective sexual dysfunction.

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 No.17728 [Open thread]

Here we go again

Day 0

I am just curious what will happen if I try it.

How long should I go.

Is it real that after 90 days your brain is different

No porn no fapping

Wet dreams doesn't count

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 No.17731

>>17729

yeah, fapping after a week feels better for sure.

I'm just curious if so called "superpowers" will manifest, and in what way

All I know that if I will continue PMO nothing will change for the better… or worse?

So far, day 1

I already had an erotic dream

Recently I stopped playing fifa, that was a destructive habit

Instead I played good old Thief yesterday. That is a real game - hard and atmospheric, even if 22 years old

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 No.17732

>>17731

These "superpowers" are literally your baseline that you're living below because of your porn and video game consumption. Your testosterone is low. PMO fries your dopamine receptors (it's not natural at all and only a coomer or a Jew will tell you otherwise).

The best way to get to 7 days (when you start feeling higher Testosterone) is to change your environment to give you less private time. For example, jacking off won't occur to you if you're camping in the woods for three days with your friends, but it might feel like a necessity if you find yourself in the same time and place that you PMO by habit.

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 No.17733

>>17732

>>17731

PMO and even just MO is not natural. Normal people don't do this routinely. In the past people had less privacy and stimulation so you'd have to be a pervert. Yearn for the days of true masculinity free from perversion. Consume things that draw you closer to this inspiration. Discover it and surround yourself with it.

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 No.17734

>>17731

>>17732

>>17733

You guys are intense. So many advices.

So far I don't want to play with big words here, just writing my journal

What the goal is, doesn't matter now. Just enjoying the road.

Day 2

Thief is really adrenaline pumping game. I made it to almost the end of the third mission on hard difficulty, and realised I wasted fire arrows that I need to activate the lock where the gem is. Game over

Yesterday I got the thought to start making bets on football matches. Never really occured to me as such strong desire. I felt similar rush when I was like 2 weeks on nofap and the thought of porn came. That sweet dark feeling convinced me that I shoudln't make the profle on betting page.

Overall, yesterday I was quite productive. I work online for now, I'm glued to computer most of the time, but no real pmo urges so far.

As for what is worst, I sure think PMO is the worst combination. I always felt the worst after pmo, while after mo session it feels different. You go to your intimate desires, while with porn it often gots twisted. It feels deeper, even if it's not good

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 No.17738

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>>17733

>>17732

This guy get's it.

>>17734

Good luck my man, I hope you're still winning or if you failed retried.

Don't let this happen to you, guys, we can make it.

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 No.12351 [Open thread]

I was reading through some threads here and a lot of anons seem to be dealing with homosexuality. A few even posting that they had cured their attraction to men/traps through nofap. Obviously this goes against everything I have been told about the human sexuality by the (((experts))), but I don't put much stock in what they say.

Anyway, let me tell you a bit about myself. I first found porn at about age 10, for the first 5 years, all I looked at was women. I remember stumbling across some gay/trap porn a few times and feeling disgusted. Then I got into anime and found 4chan, where I was bombarded with trap porn. I eventually started jerking off to the stuff. After that, it only got more degenerate: crossdressers, then outright gay shit.

As I have become more right wing I have realized just how degenerate homosexuality and pornography are. I don't feel like this is an innate part of who I am(I remember exclusively getting turned on by women and being disgusted by faggotry). Was this caused by porn? Can I get rid of this through nofap?

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 No.17714

>>17713

btw this only works if you've developed a 'gay' fetish because of excessive masturbation and pornography. If you are a REAL homo then no, Nofap won't work.

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 No.17719

I was toying with the idea of how this could be an evolutionary adaptation and I think I may be onto something. I think it all has to do with genetic diversity, hear me out here:

If the "alpha male" in a group of humans were to just fuck and fuck and fuck all the women nonstop then the genetic diversity of that group of humans would plummet and cause the usual problems a lack of genetic diversity causes. So what if built into our sexuality is something that if we were to do too much fucking would alter our desire to fuck into a form that no longer procreates and frees up the women for other men? That would allow other males in that group of humans the opportunity to do more fucking and therefore increase the genetic diversity of the group.

This also leans into the idea that born homosexuality is also an evolutionary adaptation. Think about it, its been shown that the more boys a woman gives birth to the more likely the next boy will turn out gay. We know that women are more important to procreation than men as they have one egg at a time that takes them 9 months to gestate where as a man can shoot millions of sperm into as many women as he can so if the ratio of men to women is too large then there will be men that are useless when it comes to procreation. So what if those men that are born gay are born to be conduits of the sexual energy of the alpha males that have fucked themselves into faggotry? Suddenly the born homos are no longer procreationally useless as they're serving a purpose in increasing the genetic diversity by taking the dick thats already fucked a bunch of women and also they aren't competing with the too many males that already exist in the group.

Bringing this into the modern era it follows that now that we have the pornography that allows us to simulate fucking well enough to trick our brains that its real that if we did it too much we would go into that same "you've fucked too much" mode that was evolutionarily advantageous to our tribes in the past even though the only thing our seed has been spread into is countless tissues.

Am I making any kind of sense here or am I totally out of left field with this line of thought?

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 No.17726

In your own post you already admit it was the escalation of degeneracy that made you like it so you can go in the opposite direction too.

Even wanting anal with women follows the same formula. I remember the first time i saw it, i was disgusted and wondered why would anyone do that. Then in time i began to like those scenes. I was subverted.

Now that i nofapped and noporned for 3 years or so i am regaining the natural sense of disgust.

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 No.17737

>>12351

Theres a phenomenon in the trans community where usually those who "Think" they are women first start as straight males who then become transgender through pornography use. Most transgenders started their transition after getting addicted to porn

>>12438

Don't worry op… I'm a filthy degenerate too. Anime traps are literal perfection yet my eyes can always sniff out a transgender man. They live in the uncanny valley and even though they dress up and put on makeup with favorable lighting and filters I can always tell and it disgusts me… No matter how you present a fake skin you can't change what lies under.(bone structure)

Porn and tv is dangerous because you go into a passive soaking mode where your inhibitions are suspended. It will convert you to bad things if you dispel your natural gut reaction of disgust because you begin to accept everything horny people have lower disgust reactions and become very receptive it's kind of like a hypnotic trance. Op here started fapping normal but was exposed when horny to "Disgusting" content his disgust was dispelled in the moment allowing him to fap and get that rush of a new fetish. It's a slippery slope my friend and the climb is hard but keep going.

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 No.17882

>>17737

>Theres a phenomenon in the trans community where usually those who "Think" they are women first start as straight males who then become transgender through pornography use. Most transgenders started their transition after getting addicted to porn

How often is this the case with zoomers?

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