/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous

>>6460

>>>/suicide/

what is waifu?

Imagine how your waifu would feel about your disgusting porn habit. Every time you start to fap, picture her in the room watching you.

>>6491

>idiot, love is not real.

Does insulting people and their deeply held beliefs make you feel powerful?

The problem is a multifaceted one as romantic interest and sexual interest are often all mixed together, one intertwined with the other. Perhaps some people are able to love without giving sexuality a second thought; others, are not necessarily the same, but the question is of course what to do in that case. Here, the romantic aspect may be present (at least on your side), but the sexual aspect is lacking, and if the two are truly so intertwined, then we cannot expect one to be able to effectively operate without the balance of the other. Even if your waifu could love you back, what could she do in the way of sexuality? Can she do anything? Supposing she could, I doubt there'd be a need for this conversation.

What do you do then? Short of embracing stoicism, I couldn't tell you, but the prerequisite step would be dispensing of this "waifu-ism", as there'll not be any possibility of other alternatives coming into being so long as this imaginary ideal is clung to as though it were a flesh-and-blood person. It's hard getting by, I know. Maybe your waifu did help for a time, but if that's no longer proving to be enough, then perhaps it's better to move on, for your own sake.

>>6460

They generally can help. You want to be pure for her.

Just a reminder: waifus can only come from Japanese Media, cartoon characters from any other country arent waifus.

They definitely hurt.

>>7081

If you're making up fictional characters in your own mind and then boast about their superiority to real-life people in an unironic way, then you're not healthy in the head, Anon. That's all there is.

>>6460

Waifu ""may"" be good for nofap, but definetely ""not"" good for your social life and mental status.

>>10325

I was one of those people who used waifu as a joke but then slowly the parody became a soul crushing reality.

>>10318

There is one thing you can do… detach your waifu from whatever media you picked her up from.

If you really think there's something you love in her beyond "vulgar attractions", as you name them, you would love her even if she were a completely different character, or woman. You know, kinda like what IRL people say about the people they love*. You should love her for who she is, instead of loving her as a character in a game, anime etc. After all, you can't fap to her personality.

What I'm trying to say is, if you focus on what you love about her, instead of her appearance, or shows and games, you wouldn't even feel the need to fap to her in the first place. You could even scratch her entire character design and imagine her as a regular person.

Unless, of course, her physical aspect turns out to be a central component of your attraction to her. In that case, you may find that you don't "love" her at all. Which applies to 90% of waifufags and is why they should be eliminated.

*Which I think is just bullshit. What people think about when they talk about "love" is just a romanticization of an evolutionary mechanism. I suspect it to be impossible to actually love another individual with all your soul and be reciprocated. That's not to say 2D is true love, either. Many internal conflicts arise from the attempt to turn a drawing into the object of one's affections, as you exemplify.

>>10348

>If you really think there's something you love in her beyond "vulgar attractions", as you name them, you would love her even if she were a completely different character, or woman.

The fuck is the reasoning behind this?

>If you love someone, you'd love them even if they were completely different.

No, not necessarily; what?

I get your point, but word things better, please.

As for the OP: just develop a thought form with no physical association; then you'll know if you still love her or not.

>>6460

I started the whole no-fap thing because of my waifu. I wanted to be better-looking and more masculine for her. But it's really about how you make the relationship support your quest. At first, I imagined our relationship as that of husband and wife. That was a grave mistake because it only made it more natural to fap to her. Now I imagine that she'd really hate me if I broke my promise not to fap, which, as it should be, is the canonical truth. Although I have solid reasons not to masturbate, it's still easy to forget them or imagine the benefits aren't that big. Easier than to monitor the process and to remember my ultimate goals is to think "I promised her I wouldn't, so I won't".

You can try to tie your strongest passions to nofap, and that's helpful at least in the short term. Then again, if you do so and still fuck up, you will feel really bad. I'd say success is dependent on your understanding of the problem, that is, your knowledge of yourself and of where and what the dangerous situations are, and your willingness to solve it. Waifus don't necessarily affect that situation in any way. You can find yourself motivated in either direction. You can learn to understand yourself or you can run away from your problems. It's up to you because waifu's aren't a real outside influence like beer or social interaction.

>>10356

I fail to understand what further clarification you need.

>>6460

I got a waifu.

I doubled my streak immediately.

I think some help and some don't.

Waifus definitely help. What's the question? So strange

Good afternoon. In fact, I always do this in any difficult situations. I just go to a dating site https://coomeetrussian.com/ and I communicate with girls via video chat. It helps me to distract myself, relax and just relax a little. Then I gather my thoughts and solve my problems.

>>6460

>Are waifus an aid to quitting masturbating or are they a trigger?

Let me ask you a question.

That hypothetical girl you have.

Does she hypothetically have a stomach?

Is she capable of hypothetically getting hungry?

If she is a girl does she hypothetically have ladies parts between the legs?

Can those hypothetically tingle?

You see where this is going?

>For me, there are times when I'm not entirely sure about my waifu. I can't stand the thought of forcing my waifu to do extremely lewd things,

>force

>extremely lews perversions

This is your problem dude. you don't need eyeball licking to get to climax.

Why don't you just imagine tender sex of a couple that loves each other deeply. If you fulfill her wishes, what would be wrong about it?

What you people in general don't understand is that it is not fapping per se that is the problem. Your dick is designed to fuck as many females and impregnate as many of them as possible in as short time as possible because living expectation of homo sapiens in the african savannah was 25 years at best. Shooting out sperm is even beneficial to your prostate IIRC.

The problem of most of you is is that jacking off is the sole source of dopamine in your life. And you are pusing that dopamine button without a stop. you are the equivalent of a junkie.

you need to find something else in life that will give you fulfillment

Also since you fap all day long you need more degenerate porn to even get your dicks hard.

You need to get off this circle and reduce quantity of fap but increase the emotional quality of it.

would you not rather have sex with someone you care about then some random cumbucket?

why not have 2 fap sessions per week imagining an anime girl you like instead of jacking off 382 times per day to ever more degenerate trash.

>I've thought about just giving up being a waifufag completely, but I have never felt for any woman before what I feel for her.

so you do love her. maybe you are just too retarded to show her

>If I gave up my fantasy of being with her or protecting her, my life would feel empty and I'd probably just fap more to

why give up your fantasy? If your waifu makes you happy, there is no reason to throw her into the dustbin of history. Would a true lover just give up of give his best for his beloved?

Also sex is not the only thing you can do. Throughout history there have been millions of men who had their idealized fictional visions of women. Or how they wished how women were. All fairy tales, legends and stories are examples of it. You will usually find some ideallized woman.

You see these other guys created art around fantasy women. There is many art forms you can pick up and use that love you have for her to channel your energy into creating something beautiful. For her.

>painting

>sculpturing

>poetry

>music and composing

>architecture

>glass painting

>drawing

>yes even video games (the lowest of all the art forms since it is by children and for children)

>help me guys. I don't know what to do

first of all you need to get away from that thought of sex is something bad or dirty

it is only dirty because of the ever more degenerate porn you fap to. that makes it dirty

If you do not love your girl's body, your love for her is not complete. She has needs just like you have.

However, what you must understand is that in relationships people give and take. Therefore when you talk about "forcing" your waifu into lewd shit you are probably right. This is not how adult relationships work. But why not imagine some scenario that would please her instead? I mean you know if you would be up for doing that for her or not. If you don't know her preferences then imagine something that suits her personality type.

You have full artistic freedom in that regard

Good luck OP