No.13008
My mind is rotting and my soul isn't mine anymore. I've realize that I need to quit porn and excessive masturbation, which I am doing so today.
I want to quit fapping, but I have a girlfriend who is long distance.
Does anyone think it's unhealthy to masturbate while having phone sex with her?
I want to quit masturbating, but I feel like doing it with her is natural and healthy, since I never feel shameful or uneasy after I do it, unlike fapping alone.
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No.13013
>>13008
>Does anyone think it's unhealthy to masturbate while having phone sex with her?
What kind of mental gymnastics is that? Masturbation is masturbation. Don't do it. Stop lying to yourself.
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No.13021
>>13008
just fuck your gf dumdum
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No.13026
>>13013
I'm asking if anyone knows how this affects people compared to masturbating alone to thoughts/thots.
I see it as different from normal masturbation since I'm doing it with a female who wants to take my seed in her.
>>13021
Tfw too poor for travel often
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No.13027
>>13026
It would be just masturbation with additional stimulation from your gf. Phone sex is just like a non-solo ASMR masturbation session.
If you are that oblivious and want to break your nofap streak so badly then go ahead. Just keep in mind that you will regret it later.
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No.13035
>>13027
Why would my mind process it differently than real sex? I get how masturbating yo lewd thoughts of fetish shit with hundreds of different women can be bad, but how is it bad to fap with one woman while we simulate what we say during sex?
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No.13037
>>13035
Because it is not sex, and simulating sex is the same as masturbating, especially when you are stimulating your reproduction organs.
>Why would my mind process it differently than real sex?
Your mind could, but brain is a stupid thing, it can't even really differentiate between normal masturbation and sex.
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No.13055
Just edge slower, look up "Tantra".
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No.13063
>>13055
Edging is not nofapping though.
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No.13065
>>13063
I love touching cock
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No.13083
>>13008
Sounds like your going to fap to a ficus plant. I don't think that's a good thing.
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No.13094
>>13008
The real question is does she want to have phone sex or are you pushing for this? Because if she’s not and you guys start phonefapping, your first real time together will be a disappointment. It will be regardless probably, but it will be worse the more expectations you build up with either porn or phone sex.
If she’s the one asking for phone sex tell her this:
>My mind is rotting and my soul isn't mine anymore. I've realize that I need to quit porn and excessive masturbation.
If she wants to phone fap anyway, then she’s a sucubus that doesn’t care about your mental or physical health. Leave her and find a local girl.
>My mind is rotting and my soul isn't mine anymore.
This is the only important part of your post.
>>13083
>ficus
I had to replace mine with a rose bush to quit.
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No.13105
>>13008
You gotta dump her man. Having her is no different than jerking to sex line worker
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No.16696
>>13008
fapping isnt the problem, its addiction to pornography.
if you only masturbate with your gf you're good. just remember all good things in moderation.
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No.16749
Have some dam respect for yourself and stop masturbating, faggot
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