/nofap/ - Fappers Anonymous

>>14313

>Urges rise for the most extreme shit that I fap to

>Give in

>Fap daily again

That's any addiction, but if you want to wean off it I suppose you should start by going for non-3dpd porn/hentai so that way you will crave 2D instead of 3dpd and won't get erect over 3D women or what ever the fuck you are jacking it to. Then you need to find every other fetish/genre/3D porn disgusting so you don't relapse into the actual degenerate shite. Later go off porn completely and just fap using imagination, and later days to weeks to months to years/etc of nofap and noporn and noimaginingporninyourhead until you literally don't need to ever fap and you find most shit repulsive. Just remember you will still have the effects of watching porn and masterbation when doing this, like brain shrinkage/decay. Hope you find a way out of it

>>14313

You need you need to go longer on abstinence, they more you practice the longer you can do it

>>14313

>Maybe weening off it is better? Isn't that what they do with alcoholics?

That's exactly what they don't do with alcoholics, and what they do with nicotine that doesn't really work.

The gist of it is that, it gets much worse before it gets better.

>>14315

You have some points too, though I would reject going for 2d/hentai, since that stuff is usually the most degenerate than all.

What I did in the past that showed some success, is fapping exclusively to softcore/amateur/nude pics, you get used to attractive but real women, however still bad. Another possible way is to restrict yourself exclusively to only a few favorite clips until you get bored with it. And finally, restrain to yourself to fapping without any porn at all, and you will find like I did myself, that it doesn't come to be nearly as satisfying, showing our dependency on the material.

OP, I encourage you to try again and this time try and abstain long enough to reach the flatline. In my experience, the flatline helps to clear the slate when it comes to fetishes/kinks, and once your libido returns you'll be more focused on the more vanilla and natural sources of sexual attraction.

I'll try to make an analogy here. Imagine you're addicted to eating sweet, sugary foods. Cheesecake is your favorite. So the equivalent of nofap for foods would be fasting, right? Once you start fasting, of course you're going to have a craving for sweet foods that's only going to get more and more pronounced as time goes on. But once you hit a certain point, your body is going to tell you that you need energy, from anything. Cheesecake barely even matters anymore, you would probably be happy wolfing down a bowl of white rice. You're not really losing your sweet tooth, it's just getting pushed far back on your priority list because food deprivation has caused your mind to enter a state of panic. So that's kind of how it is with nofap, except in this case you never really "eat", your only source of sexual gratification should only be actual sex (unless you're going for celibacy or something).

>>14315

>That's any addiction, but if you want to wean off it I suppose you should start by going for non-3dpd porn/hentai so that way you will crave 2D instead of 3dpd and won't get erect over 3D women or what ever the fuck you are jacking it to.

Seriously? I'm addicted to 2d stuff and I've always considered it much worse than being stuck on normal porn. have you actually done this, and has it helped?

>>14318

>though I would reject going for 2d/hentai, since that stuff is usually the most degenerate than all

Weird as I would say it the less degenerate of all just based on the look of the people in it, or maybe that is just my aversion to 3D skin in general but nonetheless the point is to make OP sick of 3dpd things in general. Which would you prefer, a picture of a 2D person solo or a 3D person solo? Sure porn is degenerate in itself but 2D hentai is the equivalent to the nudes of Roman/Greek statues/art when compared to 3D shit. Also just because 2D has schoolgirls being raped by tentacles doesn't mean roasties IRL don't fuck dogs/horses/niggers too.

>What I did in the past that showed some success, is fapping exclusively to softcore/amateur/nude pics, you get used to attractive but real women, however still bad.

Sure solo is least cucked of porn as you aren't sharing your 'partner', but rather replace 3D with 2D just on skin.

>Another possible way is to restrict yourself exclusively to only a few favorite clips until you get bored with it. And finally, restrain to yourself to fapping without any porn at all, and you will find like I did myself, that it doesn't come to be nearly as satisfying, showing our dependency on the material.

I would use imagination so your erection isn't depending on actual pictures but on the thought it self. I guess the only problem is the fact that sometimes imagery is 'flashed' inside your head with your consent so you're left with your 'body' trying to take over your thoughts but with practice of will power you can block them out.

>Seriously? I'm addicted to 2d stuff and I've always considered it much worse than being stuck on normal porn.

Again, the 2D is supposed to make OP disgusted at how the 3D world actually looks like. Also depends on what hentai you are watching/reading

>have you actually done this, and has it helped?

Yes, even before I was watching porn, I really hated the look of skin, being touched, people's breath (the feel of it not necessarily the smell) and how people generally acted using their bodies (eating, talking, etc). Then when porn came I couldn't do 'normal' as everything looked like shit. I preferred 2D hentai as the skin looks cleaner and there's no horrible texture of the skin. Would later watch 3dpd solo shit out of desperation due to stress, slippery slope kicks in until I am about to watch milf, when I realized that the kikes have being destroying my identity and freewill. My anger and fear of the flesh was bastardized into hedonism. I decided to do nofap to get back my identity but would see the negatives of fapping in general and personal reasons so I decided to go full nofap and just have 2D as a last resort so I don't go back to weirder shit.

>>14318

>>14327

Honestly it just sounds like you're an fag justifying your 2d fetish.

>I really hated the look of skin, being touched, people's breath (the feel of it not necessarily the smell) and how people generally acted using their bodies (eating, talking, etc).

Sounds like you have a real problem there mate, that looks like a phobia of sorts, and anyone even remotely hoping to get a real woman into his life doesn't think like that.

Sure real people can look disgusting, but that's the point refraining yourself from material that gives you wrong expectations, 2d can be beautiful, but will never be real. This is another point of noporn, getting used to and loving real imperfect girls, just imagine a smelly pussy that flushes out blood every month, its not pretty but its part of the real females we want to part of in our lives.

>>14331

>Honestly it just sounds like you're an fag justifying your 2d fetish.

I never said that you should fap to it, just said how you can use it to wean off other fetishes.

>Sounds like you have a real problem there mate, that looks like a phobia of sorts,

It's not a phobia as I don't go to extreme lengths and the fact it is more of a disgust/hatred of it.

>and anyone even remotely hoping to get a real woman into his life doesn't think like that.

That's your own reason though if you are doing nofap to get a girlfriend or be pure for her (not saying that it your reason, just what I could think for doing nofap with women in mind).

>Sure real people can look disgusting, but that's the point refraining yourself from material that gives you wrong expectations

Is wanting people to look clean rather than ragged and diseased really such a high expectation. Sure I'm no Chad thundercock or find myself to have beautiful skin but I'm not going near skin that looks like roastbeef.

>2d can be beautiful, but will never be real

Doesn't matter, whores say the samething when people want their partners to be virgins or when people want better things in life like freedom​ or improvement. Nothing wrong with idealism.

>This is another point of noporn, getting used to and loving real imperfect girls,

Just your reason for it, not mine. We are all here for our own reasons like self-improvement, the effects of porn/fapping, purity, relationships, freewill, etc.

>just imagine a smelly pussy

Wash it for fuck sake. Men can have dicks that smell like the seven seas if they don't wash their foreskin.

>that flushes out blood every month,

Don't really mind unless they bitch about or leave tampons or bloodied tolietpapper around.

>its not pretty but its part of the real females we want to part of in our lives.

Lots of shit is part of real life like whoredom, disease, cruelty, etc yet we shouldn't accept it nor do we have a society saying we should be submissive and change ourselfs to it. I know the skin only becomes like that when you treat it like shit.

What's your solution to weaning off it though? You should definitely have a philosophy or mindset to why you hate the thing you dread, this case porn, in itself or you'll find yourself giving 'reasons' to why you should relapse.

>>14361

Toilet paper*

Ah, was searching for this thread, for the 2d faggot. Remember its just as worse if not even worser than regular porn.

Either way stay away from both like they were the devil. Also stay away from vanilla 2d, and with god blessing you may have a chance at a normal relationship with 3d girl.

>>14742

Second this. Anime is the devil and it's the only reason why it's so hard for me to give up porn completely. I can't even look at vanilla Anime without getting urges, so now I'm removing it completely from my life.

>>14991

Just don't watch fag anime, watch jojo instead.

>>14742

You haven't hit rock bottom until you fap to loli mmd porn on the daily.

>>14742

>I'm not the same guy, but honestly 2D porn, like hentai in my fap addiction was the bottom I went to.

Really? even compared to shit in 3D? Like if I asked you which would you prefer to fap to: vanilla 3D or vanilla 2D in general which would you pick?

>After getting bored of the lame videos it was my idea to browse those cartoon sites because the laws of reality don't apply to fantasy. And that is the the crucial point why it is the most life ruining, disgusting filth that a man can experience.

Depends on the fetish. Obviously women can't have octopus shit up them.

>There's barely any drawing that don't mix up multiple fetishes (that propably the artist has) that are even amplified.

Again depends on what you are looking up. Like if there's multiple fetishes, they all don't have to be extreme. But yea most artists are going to take advantage of their hedonistic mass with niches to attraction.

>Not to mention that it creates chris-chan type of people who avatarfag as underage chinks, despite being an adult man.

No shit, retards act like retards IRL if they think there's nothing wrong with it. Sure we hear normalniggers go one about how much sex they have and what they did (anal, oral, etc). Not really a porn problem as most people become submissive to society when hooked on porn due to lack of test and don't want to talk about eating shit because they're afraid of what chad or stacy may think of them. If you lack self-awareness, porn won't amplify it.

>Shit like these caused the worst relapses.

Anything will cause relapse if you're on nofap for around a week. being bored or stressed will usually cause me to fall.

>It is a highly slippery slope: You will find your favorite stuff, you like it and you just can't help your curiosity to check even more.

A trait present to all forms of porn. Solo to lesbian to straight to gay to etc.

>This may even include rape or even more and more underage looking chinks drawings which is the doorway to hell.

Literally nothing wrong with being attracted to rape as long you either aren't on the short end of the stick or want to do it to underserving people. Nofap really isn't a form of conforming to the people's idea of "taboo" imagery for me but rather what characteristics I want to have so I'm not under control

>It's unrealistic, full of weird fantasy that you really won't want to know exists and it will scar your sexual life.

Feels like something a roastie says when on the topic of pure platonic love/romance. I'm not doing nofap for sexual reasons so I can better serve someone but rather to regain free-will and be able to feel emotions again

>It will make you a walking, living cringe if you hoard that shit

Hoard hentai or anime merch?

>Do not even watch anime, do not read manga. Stay the fuck away from that shit. Everyone should.

Anime isn't the same as hentai so there shouldn't be slave-making side-effects like porn has.

>>14991

Same when I was once addicted to 3D, used to want to slam every woman I saw, but I realized that's the same way whores 'thinked' so I learned to destroy 'my' urges.

>>15009

>JoJo

>Not fagime

>>14722

>Literally some roastie-servent whining about how some whores are 'hurt' in the porn industry rather than the actually important effects on the individual consumer

Lol, stopped watching. Don't worry I know why porn is bad but whores being weak isn't one of them.

>and with god blessing you may have a chance at a normal relationship with 3d girl.

I'm here forever. Thanks for believing in me I suppose. Hope you get a gf

Progress is not a straight line, brother. You just stopped yourself from entering a worst place. Keep going, you'll get better.