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Moved to 8chan.moe/loomis

We're All Gonna Make It, Fella

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 No.11382 [Open thread]

Attention Samsung Note users!!! Those seeking some great art apps here is a capture of recommendations. Works with any android but i recommend s pen beacause of pressure sensors.

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 No.11437

File: 29fa15e94434b42⋯.png (1.05 MB,1145x720,229:144,68681155_p0.png)

File: a70f7a577772ee2⋯.png (319.01 KB,720x1280,9:16,70295817_p0.png)

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I use autodesk sketchbook. It's pretty alright in my opinion.

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 No.11468

>>11382

>Drawchemy

>idk how to explain

Open source doodling app that has the following features:

>muh symmetry

>pain with sound

>tons of abstract shit

>RoughAnimator

>Making Facial Expressions Pro

Paid

>Easy Poser

>your apps used for background design

>What To Draw

Freemium

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 No.11476

>>11468

I'd mainly recommend easy poser, though its freemium. It is a one time pay. Outside of extras

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 No.11561

>>11382

Is RoughAnimator worth the five bucks? I'm still very lightly interested in animation and am in a bit of a chicken and the egg situation. Where buying/learning programs is too much of a bother until I get more interested, but I won't know until I start, etc.

Adding that Procreate is a pretty good mobile drawing app, and CSP is mobile now too, with Photoshop coming soon. (iOS though, unsure with Android.)

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 No.11563

Do people actually make pixel art on their phones? Why do they hate themselves so much?

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 No.7106 [Open thread]

I'm creating a art zine focusing on alternative manga/comic, please check the https://github.com/mtk538/Zine for more info about what we're looking for, themes etc.

Pic rel is Cover page WORK IN PROGRESS

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 No.11461

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>>11380

I'm absolute shit at drawing, but what kind of short stories are you looking for? Not promising anything just yet though.

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 No.11462

>>11461

there are 2 short stories in issue #1 if you want to get an idea, but if yours fit the themes on our website, ( https://blackfogzine.org/guideline.html#subm ) it should be fine. I have 1 more spot for a story. so if you're sure you'll do it, send me an email or pm on discord and ill reserve a slot for ya.

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 No.11498

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>>11380

>I disabled it entirely after your post.

Did you go with a self-hosted solution, or are forgoing analytics entirely for the time being?

I don't know about your hosting setup, but if it's a VPS and can read the access log, it'd be pretty trivial to parse said log to spit out the number of requests. You don't even need to set up a redirect or use some asynchronous javascript bloat now that you're hosting the file yourself.

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 No.11499

>>11498

well, tbh i'm a noob when it comes to that, and its self-hosted, but on a friend's server. there are different things there, not just my website. But I'll ask him if there is a possibility, thanks for the tip

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 No.11501

>>11499

Pretty sure nginx keeps access logs by default. Not sure if there's any rotation involved, though, that is, if old logs get rewritten, put into separate files or if you just have one monolithic beast. You likely won't be seeing enough traffic to cause a storage issue, so that's something.

If he's not really the kind of guy to do any favors and all you want are total download numbers in the absolute bare-bones bottom-of-the-barrel minimal-effort automated solution, maybe a daily cronjob that automatically updates a web-accessible text file produced by grepping the access logs, looking for a count of lines with BlackFogZine01.pdf in them. Would be a few minutes of effort tops, if even that.

If not, or if there's the slightest chance you might want even slightly more in the not-too-distant future, just ask him up front what you'd like and what he'd be willing to do.

Also, probably not a good idea to have page errors report anything about the backend. Seeing both the platform and version number makes it very convenient for both people and bots to abuse known exploits, should he forget to update. I don't think nginx 1.10.3 has any arbitrary code execution bugs, but you never know when things get left unmaintained for a while.

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 No.6059 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Last thread is autosaging and seeing this on the front page usually motivates people to draw, though they usually don't post.

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 No.11466

File: 3c192b94817ba4f⋯.png (233.06 KB,750x615,50:41,Faun_Princess_L.png)

Already drew satyr princess cutie. I like to think this is her awful cousin or sister.

>>11463

>cause I'm bad at hands

I was literally in the process of posting this late last night when I finally realized the reason I couldn't get her left hand to look correct was because it was a right. Hang in there, buddy.

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 No.11471

>>11377

>>11466

Your faces look too niggish, anon.

Turn down the sheboon factor.

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 No.11475

File: 7b2da4416a78118⋯.jpg (263.45 KB,1280x905,256:181,72.jpg)

>>10476

Day 72 Tribal Knight. Feels like I'm getting worse with each day. I don't feel as energetic anymore and I'm not practicing at all these days. and I feel bad because I'm not drawing as much as I should be.

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 No.11482

>>11471

They can't all have perfect nordic features, brobro.

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 No.11484

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>>10476

73 Faerie Knight

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 No.11396 [Open thread]

What is it about traditional that makes it so much more appealing to me than digital art? That's not to say digital is bad, but when you compare similar art from both mediums, there's something uncanny about digital art. Like it's too clean, or the colors are never quite right. There's something I just can't put my finger on.

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 No.11407

>>11396

The drawing looks organic anon. You don't say plastic plant looks more realistic than a real plant. It's natural looks what makes it real and lively. Sadly, it consume a lot more time produce these kind of art and most people don't have much time for it.

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 No.11410

Digital pens or mice don't translate well, drawing traditionally gives you more control and articulation than electronically. Digital colors are also popless and depthless.

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 No.5080 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Eh, /ic has one so let's start one too.

What skill level do I have to be at to start creating my own characters? I want to be at the point where i no longer have to practice the fundamentals constantly and I can improve by making my own things.

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 No.11615

File: 794ed6aa614efbc⋯.png (271.62 KB,648x629,648:629,is this suppose to be part….png)

File: a9f71f1422d1801⋯.png (864.56 KB,1920x988,480:247,leg3d.png)

What are these two lumps suppose to be?

I'm assuming it's the ass because the body doesn't show the penis (which covers it) unless if the character is a female in which the bottom ass would show. but I'm not sure still

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 No.11656

>>11609

Use a stablizer. Weighted in Krita helped me. The one that gives a circle and the line doesnt start until you reach the edge (you can adjust sizes, etc). I found that the easiest way to keep straight lines (or curved/non-wobbly) and keep on track. Try to make faster strokes, too. Just map undo to the pen and keep going til you get the right curve you wanted. I liked taking line art and inking over top of it for practice on making the lines. You can do some basic straight line, figure eights and other curves as warmups if you want, but taking a brush and inking for weight practice and various curves helped me adjust the quickest.

>>11615

Its the ass cheeks tucking in. you can tell its a male based on the hips and pelvis. No junk is why you see the ass cheeks.

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 No.11657

>>11656

thanks for the help

may good gains come to you

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 No.12587

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 No.13892

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File: e145a746a89e6a9⋯.png (74.77 KB,519x432,173:144,e145a746a89e6a9fc4e8536401….png)

I was sorting through my drawing related pics and found these.

It makes a good argument about using vectors, but is there any program where you can draw freehand and it translated that into vectors?

Krita sure as fuck doesn't.

>>11615

That's the ass. It's easier to observe on females, but it can show on males depending on the angle or pose.

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 No.11177 [Open thread]

people who can't into perspective are mentally challenged

seriously what the fuck is wrong with you tards

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 No.11178

Post your're work

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 No.11179

wtf I hate edvard munch now!

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 No.11180

>>11179

You triple black man, you can very well like the works of mentally challenged people. I mean, I like my work, so there.

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 No.11278

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>>11180

>>11179

What's wrong with him? did he make this? it looks good to me, very creepy

also sorry for posting so late

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 No.11280

>>11278

>did he make this?

>tfw Munch is shitposting right there with us

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 No.3604 [Open thread]

When drawing the human head, is it better to start with a circle, or with an "egg" shape?

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 No.10994

I work as a caricaturist at a theme park. If I have to choose I go egg shape but sometimes we don't even start with the outer shape and start from the facial features and build outward. REALLY fucking strange process but when you get used to it oddly enough it makes drawing normally again so much less work.

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 No.11002

>>10994

There's a book on caricature from one of the MAD magazine artists that's really good. It made me want to be a caricature artist myself but I don't think I have the balls

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 No.11004

Nothing of both. Especially when you're a beginner. Don't ever think in circles or egg-ish shapes. Build forms like spheres! The head is no circle. Even if you start to draw or paint the head, construct a sphere, not what you think, where the central line, ear line etc. could be.

For me the best method is the one I learned from Sinix. (Just search on Youtube) This way you draw or paint a bent piece of paper, wrapped around the head

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 No.11008

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>>11004

That's pretty good actually.

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 No.11132

>>11004

I can do the paper and place the diamond nose on it in most angles. The extreme perspective usually are a bit harder to deal with. What I want to know is how to move on from there; in the video he describes the process as drawing mask but it was brief. He does say I could continue with the level but I don't know what to do next

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 No.11044 [Open thread]

Bit late for a thread but I don't get much feedback elsewhere. Post your stuff so far and let's critique each other! You can still jump in for the last week, but take it easy.

I make mine in the span of a week, not day by day, so I get to polish them a little extra until I scan the batch. However I don't do sketching for these. Posting the ones I'm proud of so far. This has been educational and I can recommend it

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 No.11046

>>11044

learn to draw instead of wasting ink is the best advice i can give you.

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 No.11047

>>11046

playing around and experimenting is part of learning to draw though

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 No.11050

File: 15707a1e399894f⋯.png (279.36 KB,750x921,250:307,Days07thru10.png)

File: c17529119412945⋯.png (174.12 KB,750x933,250:311,Days11thru14.png)

Yeah, I've been doing 'em daily but I don't post 'em here because they're usually of questionable quality. Plus, I take take cutesy pictures of them with the pens lying around like a pretentious faggot, and /loomis/ ain't the place for that. I have been scanning them later in batches – dumped the first 6 days in the draw thread >>10859 but haven't bothered to keep up.

Don't expect too much feedback here.

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 No.11059

File: a3f573b74f8b447⋯.jpg (892.32 KB,4938x3472,2469:1736,DOC071018-07102018150130-0….jpg)

>>11046

>>11047

I'm not playing around, I take this challenge very seriously. I'm doing it to test my abilities, not to impress anyone. I will see it through.

>>11050

Guess not. It's just a normie fad I suppose, but I don't do it for social points or self promotion. I know I suck but it stings to get dismissed by some nobody when I've invested a piece of myself in this. Fuck that, put up or shut up niggers.

Anyway, the feedback thing is tough honestly. I could give you advice without context but it may not be relevant to your artistic intent or whatnot. You've seen my stuff too and maybe you don't care to hear my input. But if you do I'll be here.

I unironically made this by the way.

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 No.4745 [Open thread]

So you guys are all really talented and shit, and I wish I could learn from you. The "problem" is that I want to draw in the Annie-Mae and Mango styles. What are some resources for complete retards when it comes to that?

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 No.5618

>>5516

>slice of life

I think you mean moe or school life shit nigga

>>5517

and it's still gay.

>>5593

fuk off, /a/ weeaboo

>>5590

>>5586

>>5590

No fuk u slayer was an ok show that's still better then weeb shit today

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 No.5633

File: 5c04de6159a6126⋯.jpg (28.17 KB,500x280,25:14,weebshits.jpg)

>>5618

Slayers is weebshit that is somehow more repetitive than InuYasha.

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 No.10981

>>4745

Learn to draw from observation, then learn cartooning, and then draw in an anime/manga style.

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 No.10982

>>5244

>> If you have a problem with child porn you are the problem

Just stop.

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 No.10986

>>10982

I can't wait to draw little girls getting fucked TBH.

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 No.10921 [Open thread]

Someone in /a/ was struggling to fit a reference image onto their screen because the resolution was so small, so I thought it would be cool if you could put an image onto the screen somehow.

And then I decided to procrastinate on drawing by making this little program instead. Webm is more or less self explanatory.

Download is here: https://tsun.itch.io/reference-image-window

Windows only because there's a lot of things I have to do manually with the operating system's functions and I can't bother to learn it all in Linux.

Let me know if you have problems/crashes. Or delete this thread if it's not appropriate here, I guess.

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 No.10922

Will try it when I get home, thanks lad

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 No.9392 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

"Got 'em!"

A thread for people of all skill levels to dump their works-in-progress and studies

Draw shit. Draw it a lot. Git gud. Maybe

Live Figure Models

http://www.onairvideo.com/photo-archive.html

https://line-of-action.com/

https://www.quickposes.com/en

Random Poses (3D Models)

http://www.posemaniacs.com/

Gesture and Figure Drawing Demonstrations

Glenn Vilppu: https://youtu.be/aOtVUHgJqQk ; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0bd0_8onkA

Karl Gnass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw-piPn9d6Q&list=PLUnqAdGfhZZh7y_-tLZkacyShqy8RRpSU ; https://youtu.be/OcHZITz9GM4

Sheldon Borenstein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q19Y-gZIs9M

3-D Anatomical Models

Some select models from Sketchfab, useful for anatomy and perspective study.

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 No.10689

File: 1bf7f220d308ebf⋯.jpg (195.72 KB,1920x1080,16:9,IMG_20180925_202217.jpg)

These are bad. I'll do better tomorrow.

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 No.10960

A tip:

if you're drawing something and you know for sure something is wrong with it.

Redraw the whole thing from scratch.

Don't polish that turd.

It will not only give you mileage but also confidence since if you do this often enough you will be cool with non attachment to your practice stuff.

You'll be grinding out thousands of drawings over your time as an artist.

That potato of just now will be dust in the wind in a month or two.

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 No.11025

File: 8f8076150e772c2⋯.png (2.11 MB,2173x1765,2173:1765,nachtpatrullen.png)

I've kept this one locked away, please critique so I can snap out of it, finish, scrap, radically change it maybe. Just sick of brooding on it

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 No.11027

File: 1e42228fdcf05c3⋯.png (205.39 KB,2173x1765,2173:1765,nachtpatrullen anatomy.png)

>>11025

Anatomy bonus

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 No.12287

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First time drawing in three years. Cat skull that my mom had laying around her house. She's a crazy cat lady, all of her cats are inbred and deformed. They don't last long. Drawn with mechanical pencil.

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 No.6589 [Open thread]

I started to notice that a lot of artists are left handed. To the point where most of the video tutorials I have saved on my hard drive, most of the time it's a lefty artist.

Is there a correlation between left handed people and drawing ability?

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 No.8804

there's a much larger link between artfaggotry and actual degeneracy, and I wouldn't advocate that anyone start acting like a degenerate on the offchance it improves their art

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 No.8806

>>8804

If you draw with both hands at the same time, does that make you gay?

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 No.10073

>>6590

What a tremendous, bulbous jackass you are.

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 No.10627

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 No.10628

>>8079

gave me a chuckle

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 No.10423 [Open thread]

If anyone has the Vilppu Drawing Essentials, would it be possible for you to share it?

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 No.10428

Just draw lad

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 No.10429

Here you go: h??ps://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1734933

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 No.8376 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

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>>6186

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 No.10426

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 No.10434

>>10422

That sounds like a great way to not have enough energy and feel like shit.

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 No.10438

>>10434

anon, in the past humans didn't eat everyday, and they had enough energy to run after shit that way faster then them, and feeling like shit is the whole point.

the sooner you get done with what you are working on for that day, the soon you won't feel like shit

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 No.10487

>>10438

In the past they were also lucky to live past 30.

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 No.10497

>>10487

that was because they would get eaten by something, killed by someone, or die due do to an infection

nothing to do with food

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 No.10392 [Open thread]

What if you spent a day or two learning about how different parts of a car work? What makes the engine work, what's the purpose of all the different parts, how to do maintenance on it, etc. It would only take a few days to get a rough picture, but you could use that knowledge to draw and design all kinds of mechanical things from there on out. If you know how it works, it's much easier to draw it and things related to it than just trying to judge it by the way you remember it looking, and if you want something similar in your design you know roughly how to make one.

The same can be applied for all kinds of things like clothing and architecture and furniture (e.g. studying why it has the shape and parts that it has and why something looks a certain way). A car specifically has a lot of different variety of parts and many of them are very generic and applicable to common things.

I'm not sure where I'm going with this. Would there be interest in a thread where we take subjects and then explore together about how they work and what caused them to have the shape/design they have, and maybe draw them? Any ideas how to look for or where you could learn about these kinds of things without having to read a whole book about it?

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 No.10393

>>10392

>If you know how it works, it's much easier to draw it and things related to it than just trying to judge it by the way you remember it looking, and if you want something similar in your design you know roughly how to make one.

How true.

I like to do this sometimes when I draw a shitpost. It adds something more for specialists in the related field. It can range from making a pun in another language to learning about the anatomy of particular organisms to make sure a joke about them getting frisky holds.

>>10392

>Any ideas how to look for or where you could learn about these kinds of things without having to read a whole book about it?

Videos, maybe?

For a more concrete example, you can find youtube channels that explain engineering concepts in a few minutes, like Practical Engineering:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZINeaDjisY

The "How it's Made" series might provide some insight into how things work as well, even though it's not their main purpose, if only because you get to see the separate parts of a device being assembled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN6U4TmT3Mw

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 No.10394

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>>10393

Nice channels, I didn't think of video content as an option for some reason.

On another note, just now by chance I discovered an interesting word: diagram. It seems you can search for almost anything with the word "diagram" and get neat pictures that show the structure of things. They don't explain what things do or how they work though, but might be useful as supplemental information.

I'm noticing it's hard to differentiate between things that are just for looks, and things that have a practical purpose. I think what you want is information about the function so you can apply it to your own design.

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 No.10395

cutaway and exploded view are two terms you'll want to remember.

Cool thread, bro. It always bothers me when an artist can draw and stylize people / organic so well, but can't draw mechanical at all or copy directly from reference without bringing it into the style of the work.

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