/loomis/ - Art Gains

>>17105

Yeah I think I'm not alone when I say I've had just about enough. The front page showing stuff from days, sometimes up to a week or more prior is nothing new and it's one of those things that could very well keep someone from posting to begin with seeing as it makes the board look (even) dead(er). Both that and not being able to make threads owing to some error or another in general on a fairly regular basis have been something I'd dealt with personally so I've been left wondering how it might have been affecting others.

Over the past day and across something like a five hour period I'd been pain-stakingly porting over much of the better content (content that, if not technically refined, is at least evidence of someone's struggle for artistic self-actualization) from this board over to https://www.8chan.moe/loomis (up next, archiving highlights from the drawthreads if not their entiretey, selecting some of the more detailed and valuable critiques to archive in their own thread, as well as some of the miscellaneous stuff like making a thread for anon's comic series and the "weekly drawthread" cards as many of them were pretty clever and had some effort put into them by their creator).

I appreciate 8kun for allowing us to reclaim a home here but the technical issues have unfortunately been significant and persistent from the beginning-enough so that it's a wonder that we've been able to hold on to what little activity we have. Decentralization is ultimately a good thing, the 8kun board isn't necessarily going anywhere and can function as a redoubt should anything happen to 8chan.moe or the other backup board on anon.cafe; having more options does nothing other than help facilitate this small community's longevity. I held out hope that all the technical issues would eventually simply vanish but, foolishly, I'd kept on hoping and eventually I think something like an entire year had slid by.

I will be making an official exodus sticky on sunday, at which point I should have ported over everything I'd felt warranted it and then some. Thanks for your contintued patiencePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>17107

>finally starts migrating off this worthless buggy site

>.moe rn (right now)

JUST

Looks like it's back up. I'm pushing back the formal migration proceedings to next Sunday and in the meantime we'll see what happens. Given what several have said in the past I'm sure others are eager for this and will probably begin posting there much sooner and that's just fine; I'll be monitoring both boards for the foreseeable future while I migrate some of the content as well.

That feeling when your camera picks up the drawing as a face :)

The lady is stylized but how should I render her? I can make studies on fundies but for some reason, when I try to apply the knowledge, I hit on the stone wall. I tried looking for references on instagram but none of the photo in her pose looks photogenic with nice balance of light and colours to imitate.

>>17099

I am not sure what program you are using. You could download GIMP for free.

Here is an example of how I play with light sources. Take your image and darken it. Then use something like a Burn/Dodge tool and play around with where you think the light would hit depending on where you want your light source to be. Also draw simple figures. A small (4inch) featureless figure can go a long way.

Keep drawing :)

These where the things I produced so far. There's a card game too, but I don't know much about tabletop simulator.

>>16773

Speaking of all that. I got a Gumroad from an artist I really like a while back, Wakfu's art director (xa-xa-xa.deviantart.com) and the fact is it's just totally useless for the most part. It's nice to watch someone draw and you might pick up something here or there, but it really seems like a lot of the artists you'd want to be taught from can't teach worth a damn and a lot of the artists who can techncally teach and communicate well you wouldn't want to be taught by anyway. A background in traditional sight-size or comparative measurement, color theory and so on is probably as good as it gets as far as that goes because it's objective and mechanical. The rest is just drawing on your own and relying on the natural development and progression of your own creativity and intuition-two things which the truly stand-out artists seem to have in spades because they spent countless hours naively drawing people, places and miscellanea for fun both in their youth without a shit given about perspective, anatomy and so on.

I got good in less than one year (roughly nine months) by doing 4+ hours of practice each day. I would often vary it. Ex: an hour of sketching without reference, an hour of drawing from reference, an hour going through an art textbook and doing its exercises, and then an hour of going through video tutorials, etc.

Where study materials are concerned: I used NDRSB, Vitruvian Studios, Loomis' books (especially Fun with a Pencil), ALLA PRIMA by Richard Schmid, and some others odds & ends.

A good thing to do when you're doing longform, highly detailed portraits from reference is to work in cycles of correction. Do a few hours, take a picture, and use editing software to overlay it on the reference. This will help you identify mistakes. Correcting mistakes is one of the best methods for learning anything quickly, and it helps you get better results early on. This is NOT the same as tracing. You're looking at a review of your mistakes on a screen–you still have to correct freehand. Don't bother tracing unless you're doing it as a speed exercise for muscle memory or something like that.

Picture related: A portrait I drew about eight months in, having started from zero. I've been going for about a year and a half now, so I can do a little better than this, but it's perfectly possible to achieve results similar to pic related in a very short amount of time. Just keep grinding it out!

black metal

Could someone help me on how to handle PayPal without failing?

I plan to work with NSFW illustrations, and I do it all under one alias. I do not know how to do it. Is PayPal the only option?

I have read in many forums that it is very easy for PayPal to lock your account, not to mention the fact that PayPal requires a bank account or a credit card in order to handle your money. I have neither.

I don't know how some NSFW artists do it. Apparently they can work without any problem and earn income through their commissions, even when patreon and paypal are hunting and punishing those who work with things like that.

>>16899

It's usually best to invoice the client so you can control the transaction better. Don't say it's NSFW, porn, furry … whatever on the form. Mark it as digital goods or service and keep the description to a basic "illustration" or "art commission." At the very least, don't let the other guy label it "Misty from Pokemon takes Were Garurumon's knot," that's what gets you auto-checked by PayPal.

So when I'm doing cel-shading, is there any general rule as to when I should be decreasing the Value more than I'm increasing the Saturation, and increasing the Saturation more than I'm decreasing the Value? Both of them look right to me, so I'm not sure if there's a situation where I should do one or the other.

And another question, I'm trying to shade something that has multiple colors that aren't separated by lines, is there any way I shade them all with different colors on the same layer without having to release my pen, or am I going to have to bite the bullet and separate them on different layers (pic related - the white/red ball) or shade them all using a Multiply layer?

Both examples were done in CSP for context.

>>16866

This is the common argument used by FOSS people to justify laziness, bad design decisions and bad software in general. "It's made for free so you can't expect anything", "it's open source so fix it yourself".

Firstly, Krita has ran fundraisers to get money for certain developers to work on it full-time for some periods, continually takes in donations, and often gets contributions from GSoC where people get monetary awards for their work. It's not done for free when someone is receiving money for it.

Secondly, Krita, as described by the official website, is advertised as a professional tool for people in various kinds of artistic fields. When you're telling professional artists to use your shit, there's an expectation of some level of professionality, and the expectation that you don't have to switch your profession to a computer programmer and then familiarize yourself with 7 gigabytes of spaghetti code that has been strung together by ragtag groups of random people and start developing it yourself just to get it to work.

The least you could expect is for them to fix the fucking text tool that is an absolutely core tool in any serious graphics program, but it's as if nobody gives a shit or even plans to ever fix it. How the fuck can you justify leaving it as such a dysfunctional piece of shit for over 2 years now after making promises to make it great? THE LAYER DOESN'T EVEN GO INTO THE CORRECT LOCATION WHEN YOU CREATE IT, that's not even a difficult fucking problem to fix, just go to where the layer is created and make it go to the correct place instead of being pasted into the top of the layer list, that functionality already exists since every other layer goes into the correct place, why hasn't it been fixed for over 2 years? This is absolutely not something you'd expect from a "professional" tool and makes the developers look downright incompetent. I don't even expect the tool to be super fancy like Gimp's, I just want the text to not look like a near-unreadable garbled mess, a new layer to be created when I create a new text box, not having to manually move the layer into where I was every time I type text, an actual text Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>16803

>I've endlessly pored over time-travel fantasies to teach my 5/15 year old self everything I know to a fault

Me too, I think larping like that is part of the subconscious aspirations of fatherhood when you're not among the top 5% of males and are thus all but completely denied the opportunity to win a gf for yourself who isn't a mentally deranged anti-natalist SJW hambeast.

Worth it if you have an ipad tbh; good sh*t for the money