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 No.7517 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Executive-sized edition

OLD >>6581

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 No.8887

File: 3fed35772bb9006⋯.png (152.92 KB,608x320,19:10,345435.png)

>>8860

t-thanks anon.

>>8862

I have more requests that even could blush Devil itself.

Lolicon and guro is allowed here, right?

>>8864

-$3,323

College was expensive

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 No.8889

>>8878

It has to do with line thickness on the leg and also the area on the waist is kind of flat. I'm not sure how fix this but usually if it's colored, it should be fix by itself. I sketched this in a very nonstructural way though. Is kind of shitty technique. Should have prioritize drawing the body first instead of arm.

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 No.8891

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>>8878

>>8889

now is a lot better

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 No.8896

File: e4a3b6d9c26cf2b⋯.png (967.15 KB,850x1589,850:1589,Paula.png)

woooooo

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 No.8900

File: c1c15af1fc5094b⋯.jpg (15.32 KB,236x348,59:87,artvintage-child.jpg)

>>8896

What with the man face fam? if you gonna draw a girl, put some more feminine look in her.

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 No.8399 [Open thread]

Does anyone know a good website like CTRL+Paint and drawabox that teaches art fundamentals without mostly gearing towards traditional drawing? I don't have time for wasting another money on papers and a expensive high quality pencils cuz i already got myself Wacom Intuos and want a website similar to drawabox or ctrl+paint but geared towards digital drawing.

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 No.8417

>>8416

Yes as I said earlier

>>8406

>>8407

He is never not using photoshop in these videos. Watch them or don't I'm kind of done, here, man.

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 No.8419

>>8417

>He is never not using photoshop in these videos. Watch them or don't I'm kind of done, here, man.

Sorry that kind of came out rude lmoa

I guess all I can say is that the information is all there for you if you just take the time to look: ctrpaint is one of the best and most versatile free resources available today imho.

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 No.8429

>>8405

Corel Paint has been getting more stable and continuing to add brushes that mimic traditional media pretty closely. I recommend giving the trail a shot, then wait for it to go on sale. SAI has a nice feature where you can easily make vector lineart; anyone know of any other programs that do that?

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 No.8441

>>8399

Anon if you're posting that amateurish garbage here an example of what you like then I'm terrified of how bad your own drawings must be.

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 No.8469

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>>8399

>that pic

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 No.8312 [Open thread]

what does /loomis/ think of people doing free art requests?

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 No.8394

File: 8af2d3acdf71195⋯.jpg (103.57 KB,891x351,33:13,stop.jpg)

>>8393

There was nothing wrong with this thread until you started up with this astroturfing stuff like you always do. This is a board for drawing etc.; if you want to practice viral marketing take it to >>>/biz/

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 No.8398

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>>8394

Wow, sad samefriending.

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 No.8418

>>8389

>>8390

Hey maldraw, fuck off and take your shitty manga with you. We've had enough of you on /pol/ and elsewhere.

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 No.8551

What he did? I don't get the drama.

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 No.9147

>>8551

>Malaysian drawfag on /pol/.

>Made a series of cringy comics called "Adventures of christ chan".

>More talented drawfags come to /pol/, he spergs the fuck out.

>Spams and calls everyone nigger-lovers, scares them off.

>/pol/ angry as fuck, ricenigger gets banned.

>Tries and fails to ban evade.

>Trump wins Presidency.

>Twitter user Maldraw makes shitty Trump mock art.

>People notice his style is familiar.

>Starts posting Christ Chan again and spergs out when you mention /pol/.

<PURE COINCIDENCE

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 No.8297 [Open thread]

Anybody got a good customized setup/settings and a recommended workflow for either Manga Studio or SAI? I have both of those programs but i don't know which one i should main, i have problems with importing images on SAI (in case i want a reference for body, pose, character, etc), but it's easy to do so on Manga Studio (it kinda reminds me of Photoshop a little).

Also i don't even have a mentor to help me with learning art fundamentals, it's kinda difficult learning fundamentals myself since i don't know which books and tutorials should i follow in chronological order.

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 No.8370

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Don't know about the software. About the fundamentals, first thing is to know what the fundamentals are, then you can look for books and vids on your own.

For me it's something like the following:

>0 - Representation

Ways to represent stuff. What materials and tools you can use to make art. You should learn about line drawing, tonal drawing, painting, digital art, all that jazz. Maybe read something about the history of art.

Some books:

* E. H. Gombrich - The story of art

* Edmund J. Sullivan - Line: an art study

* Howard Simon - 500 years of illustration

* Arthur L. Guptill - Rendering in pen and ink

* Peter Stanyer - The complete book of drawing techniques

>1 - Objects

All things you're gonna be drawing. For instance about the human figure:

* Loomis - Figure drawing for all it's worth

* Loomis - Drawing the head and hands

* Vilppu - Basic figure drawing

* Hampton - Figure drawing for artists

* Zarins, Kondrats - Anatomy for sculptors

* Goldfinger - Human anatomy for artists

* Winslow - Classic human anatomy in motion

* Proko video series

Same for different subjects. If you wanna draw animals, environments, vehicles, outfits, etc. You have to learn their structure, motion, landmarks, proportions, superficial form, textures, color, and so on.

>1.1 - Perspective

* Norling - Perspective made easy

* Chelsea - Perspective for comic book artists

* Scott Robertson - How to draw

>1.2 - Light and color

* Ted Seth Jacobs - Light for the artist

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 No.8371

I like Ashcorp's panda girl but frankly his music can go kys itself lmoa

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 No.6186 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.

Previous thread:

>>4382

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 No.8361

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>>8360

>Recently I genuinely get mad when I see a good picture, because the person who drew it must have had a good life and didn't have to go through the shit I did.

I know this feel too well.

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 No.8363

>>8360

>Recently I genuinely get mad when I see a good picture, because the person who drew it must have had a good life and didn't have to go through the shit I did.

I don't know. Sometimes I feel like everyone is miserable but they just hide it.

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 No.8377

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 No.8851

>>8360

>Recently I genuinely get mad when I see a good picture, because the person who drew it must have had a good life and didn't have to go through the shit I did.

all of your hardships are created by you, and it's not like artists in general art the happiest people.

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 No.10364

>try drawing

>mind is super finnicky on how it's supposed to be (a single, fullbody, lonely character that more often than not occupies the center of the page, doing nothing in particular)

>this issue only intensifies further on, including being obsessed with finding that one reference that has exactly what I want down, sporadically being on and off about it, ragequitting if the end result doesn't look right, stalling on end on what else to do about it)

>lack of creativity/not knowing what to do only worsens the stalling

>process feels more robotic and lifeless than it has any right to be because of it

>end up with several pages/files of an unfinished sketches as a result

And it only took me three years to put my finger on it.

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 No.8262 [Open thread]

Can anybody help anon draw some cats from Warriors?

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 No.8553

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Mew :3c

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 No.11728

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sure

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 No.8178 [Open thread]

what takes precedent in determining what is or isn't art? what the creator says it is, or what everyone else says it is?

i make drawings and paintings from time to time. i don't consider them to be art, although i colloquially refer to them as art sometimes because that's just the blanket term most people use for this stuff. i just think of my stuff as paintings and drawings. just because an image was rendered by a person doesn't mean its a work of art, sometimes its just an image. not all drawings are art. not all paintings are art.

i am in no way comparing myself to him, but what would you think if, for example, rembrandt said that his paintings weren't art, but he still had the same reputation he has now as a great artist? would his stuff still be art even if he insisted that they weren't?

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 No.8179

Art history and art semantics are a fucking stupid discussion to have when the kind of stuff lauded as high art these days are often "ready made" pieces of shit and/or trash presented by people that have been dangling from Duchamp's nuts for the past century. Call it whatever you want, it is what it is. Focus on what you're about and what you want to do and let everyone else suck a dick for all you care.

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 No.7954 [Open thread]

just found this board and my god am I disappointed by the fact that there isnt a single thread dedicated to drawing the REAL Loomis

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 No.7956

File: 43198df5ab6d6d9⋯.jpg (60.2 KB,550x366,275:183,time frog.jpg)

>tfw Donald Pleasence co-starring as Dr. Sam Loomis will never help you temporarily evade an immortal psychotic killer with his trusty hand-sized gun

No, delete this

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 No.7961

File: 61e19d32a75d10f⋯.png (34.92 KB,531x414,59:46,loomis-whitney inequality.png)

I know, right? I thought I'd finally found a place to shitpost about simply-connected Riemann surfaces.

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 No.7848 [Open thread]

ATTN Atelier-Anon

Alright, I've finally gotta ask about this book, man. Give me the 4-1-1 Rundown Redpill on Harold Speed if you could (but if you'd rather not no big deal, of course)

Perhaps unfairly judging the book by the chapter and plate index at the beginning it only starts talking about actual instructional stuff (in this case grid drawing) almost 100 pages in? I have read it a fair bit before that point and I like some of the stuff that's written beforehand-but he'll explain a concept in a paragraph beautifully and then go on tangents about art history, cultural art, philosophy etc. for page after page afterwards.

At first glance I'm not super convinced of this hefty tome's superiority over other books, but I would invite you to share your personal experience with it and what you may have taken away from it on a personal level in this thread rather than in the many other threads where you'd mentioned it in passing only for it to be quickly buried under pictures of crudely drawn boobies.

https://ia902606.us.archive.org/15/items/practicescienceo00speerich/practicescienceo00speerich.pdf

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 No.7893

So one of the big things about Harold Speed that sets him apart from others is that he's really passionate about what he's writing about, so it's something you often notice. It's a night and day comparison to reading someone like Vanderpoel. This does mean there's more to read but if you will be drawing for several years, I think you can survive a few pages of him talking about greek architecture.

One of the main reasons I really like the book is because it removes a lot when discussing "how" to do something and focuses on getting you to think about things in the right way. So the book isn't a dogma that tells you exactly how to do something, rather it gives you mental tools you can make use of in your own work. Too many books out there just make you draw like the author and maybe that's useful to some, I think most modern books that do that are drawn in a manner that limits someone's ability to explore what drawing is. When I was a student (I mean formally a student) I changed my approach to drawing all the time and the ability to spend a few months just considering form to be all that drawing is concerned with, then the next few months thinking that abstracting everything into light-shape/shadow-shape is all that drawing is, then only caring about the gesture of things, and so on and so on, left me with an appreciation of drawing that I think would be greater than if I had only drawn one way for my entire time there. Harold speed was an important step for me in learning these things. I read that book all the time, I had it with me and I'd read a few pages here and there when the model was on break. His description of mass drawing and line drawing was one of the things that really helped me understand what different ways of drawing were concerned with.

I think it's "line drawing practical" that is probably one of the important chapters when it comes to just understanding drawing. Getting into the habit of blocking-in something with straight lines and being very serious about making it accurate and clearly designed is probably the most important thing you can take away from the book. The later chapters are nice and all that, but just getting serious about the block in is very valuable.

Now if you're self teaching, things are difficult. If you let mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.7895

>>7893

>I can send step-by step pics of how i make my paintings and also show the mistakes I make (I don't post them here because I don't want to clutter the board with crap).

This would definitely be worth having on the board at least once.

Not OP but thanks. I was the guy drawing with ink and asking you questions in that other thread where you ended up recommending a bunch of books, Speed's being among them. I downloaded most of those books but only found a few helpful, but now that you've explained what you found helpful about Harold Speed I might give that one a second look.

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 No.5415 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Because we should not have to make new threads or post in draw threads with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, do not give up, make someone proud.

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES TO ~1000 PIXELS LONGEST SIDE:

#1) Screenshot the image and post that instead (I recommend ShareX)

#2) Change camera capture settings to something smaller

#3) Send to computer and resize in MSPaint

→ → Check out the Google doc Sticky!! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit

Also, read our own sticky >>4920 and see the /loomis/ resource hub located at: https://www.8ch.net/loomis/hub.html

>Thread study: Try to draw/paint the opening or any other following images.

TRY TO BE MORE ACTIVE AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME FEEDBACK - many studies are left unreplied, which is a bit sad and can be quite demotivating for the people that try their best to improve, but are left directionless.

Previous Threads:

>>4124 ( http://archive.is/xjWu7 )

v v v When you post a study of one of the below images, please quote the corresponding post: v v v

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 No.7808

>>7788

You're off my dude. Check your work by copying the reference picture onto a new layer, lowering its opacity and transforming it to fit-and then try again.

>>7797

Consider checking your work in the same manner I'd suggested the other anon. For now, think about laying down your shading strokes in one direction that's comfortable for you. It will help you achieve a more consistent value. Generally what I do is like a 45 degree angle or so.

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 No.7899

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>>5416

First post on loomis. I somehow feel like a small baby doing this.

Anyways, focusing on photoshop. I drew with the pic as a reference, then adjusted my sketch to the reference. Something's wrong with the nose (I don't usually draw them realistically), and maybe the jawline?

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 No.7972

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 No.7980

>>7972

is that a bug?

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 No.7985

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>>7980

it is an Araneae

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 No.22 [Open thread]

Post art and artists that inspire you.
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 No.6089

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Howard Pyle

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 No.6095

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Massimiliano Frezzato

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 No.7603

H. R. Giger

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 No.7638

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 No.7748

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 No.6529 [Open thread]

When a solar flare envelops the earth sending us into a new dark age. I will make it my duty to chop off the hands of every parasite that defiles the sanctity of art by drawing "Anime".

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 No.7675

File: 63133e9a8bd6f89⋯.png (2 MB,1198x6150,599:3075,schizo.png)

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 No.7684

>>7675

Nice. Saved

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 No.7685

>>6543

Why would anyone want to imitate the anime art style anyway? It's a style lacking in versatility and variety with indistinguishable mix-and-match dolls for characters with the same few faces. Anime is the result of the restrictive nature of its industry, with very little room for creativity or divergence from the status quo. That isn't to say there isn't any creative anime out there, but most of them play follow the leader.

Anime isn't a style to be imitated, but ridiculed.

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 No.7688

>>7675

What board was this posted on?

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 No.7690

>>7688

>ViolatedHero

Probably /monster/

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File: 72a0f3dda83ab4a⋯.jpg (18.11 KB,250x197,250:197,1458908824333.jpg)

 No.6511 [Open thread]

I just realized

While I may be bad

.

The drawings are bad for now.

And it seems like I'll never get better.

Drawing…is fun. Just moving the pencil around is fun. You don't need to be good to enjoy it. You just need to do it. And enjoy it.

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 No.7578

I'm curious, anon, do you still believe this?

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 No.7593

>>6511

I don't want to stay at this level of mediocrity, but I can't be truly assed to get better.

I can't be happy with my own stuff, but I don't want to quit.

It's just too fun to drop.

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 No.7595

File: 917b67209243f0c⋯.jpg (37.05 KB,500x318,250:159,tricky mickey.jpg)

>>7593

>having fun

disgusting

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 No.7612

>>7593

I sometimes feel I am struggling to find a way to improve without resorting to hating my art, but I'd like to always keep that feeling of having fun creating and liking my drawings intact. I don't know if I'm supposed to do that or if I'm supposed to hate myself and my stuff as some other, much more skilled than I, artists do, but I can't bring myself to it most of the time. If it happens it's often for external reasons that spill over the practice of art, like physical pain.

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 No.7654

The right mindset for improvement and fulfillment. Godspeed, OP.

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File: 1416328857207.jpg (405.86 KB,1500x1500,1:1,heads.jpg)

 No.80 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Draw shit.

Draw it a lot.

Git gud.

Maybe.
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 No.7678

File: ad5255b257c4c5b⋯.jpg (144.08 KB,1000x1415,200:283,2018-02-19 - 001e.jpg)

File: 7cbe25a16c90880⋯.jpg (129.71 KB,1415x1000,283:200,2018-02-19 - 002e.jpg)

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>>7635

>>7642

It's really cool to hear about and see this stuff.

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 No.7686

File: 381a78d63b1f87c⋯.png (188.97 KB,851x865,851:865,ClipboardImage.png)

A critter in thick clothing.

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 No.7795

File: 8dbd9ff60ca2bec⋯.jpg (862.3 KB,2552x2717,232:247,Untitled-Scanned-02.jpg)

Sorry I couldn't fit it all in the scanner, is it good?

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 No.8183

File: 0c7d4e86ad4069a⋯.jpg (320.27 KB,1152x2048,9:16,29060745_641204442937795_1….jpg)

File: 505376b8b5d65cc⋯.jpg (11.56 KB,400x263,400:263,overhand_down.jpg)

I had a little breakthrough tonight. Instead of drawing small with my hand, holding the pencil the same way that I write, I held it like this and drew larger on an easel pad, and moving my arm to make lines. It worked out a lot better. I think I should do it like this for now on, at least if I want to be a painter. now i see why people hold their pencils like this.

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 No.13211

File: 8f73008cbfe0506⋯.png (239.37 KB,800x800,1:1,headpractice.png)

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File: b7077e606af0bd3⋯.jpg (607.66 KB,1089x750,363:250,Tullio-Crali-22Cityscape22.jpg)

 No.6465 [Open thread]

Hey BO, can you monitor the 4chan /ic/ book threads and add more stuff to your mega file? Everything over there is disorganized as hell. It's so stupid looking through 8 links when it ends up being almost 100% the same shit over and over again.

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 No.6466

Sure man, do me a favor and try and find things you want to see in there as they come up.

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 No.6468

>hey BO can you do all this work I could easily do on my own for me?

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 No.7618

>>6468

Hotpockets!

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