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File: 1416328857207.jpg (405.86 KB,1500x1500,1:1,heads.jpg)

 No.80 [View All]

Draw shit.

Draw it a lot.

Git gud.

Maybe.
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 No.2629

File: 1458399907828.png (194.68 KB,614x591,614:591,prev.PNG)

how does this look so far

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 No.2630

>>2629

I can't explain it because I'm on my tablet but I'll try and help you when I get home

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 No.2631

File: 1458408082983.png (40.03 KB,431x487,431:487,dsalkfk.PNG)

>>2630

gotcha

I fixed the background

but if there's anything else then go ahead

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 No.2636

File: 1458441061509.jpg (35.75 KB,431x487,431:487,Untitled-1.jpg)

>>2631

A big part of my, now purely hypothetical, crit was the "background" which I misinterpreted as a misunderstanding of how perspective lines work. The second pic looks better, but the body's proportions are kind of inconsistent.

Her body is very small, looks to be under 2 heads altogether, but her legs look relatively normal. You've shortened the forearm relative to her upper arm area to compensate for the gooch being right under the belly button so it would hypothetically be in the "right spot" technically but still looks a bit wonky. Consider lowering the hips and panty line a bit along with the gooch and lengthening the forearm just a tad. Keep it up bruh

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 No.2637

>>2627

I forgot to mention, you kind of dropped the ball on that left elbow bruh, it looks like it's below the navel! Looks like an improvement overall though.

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 No.2642

>>2636

>>2637

thanks a ton anon!

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 No.2643

File: 1458493850786.jpeg (187.25 KB,1200x1000,6:5,human test.jpeg)

I know nothing about the human anatomy. Where can i read about it ?

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 No.2648

File: 1458530486572.jpg (229.12 KB,1451x571,1451:571,Fun With a Pencil in a Nut….jpg)

>>2643

Consider starting with "Fun With a Pencil" to familiar yourself with the concept of construction, and then move on to formal anatomy (Books like "Figure Drawing for All It's Worth" and "Figure Drawing - Design and Invention) from there.

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 No.2655

File: 1458605627921.jpg (97.35 KB,720x540,4:3,1458599956352-1.jpg)

Drew this a while ago for the /v/ draw thread, how is it? It was supposed to be this guy(http://snk.wikia.com/wiki/Maxima) in front of a computer. Other than a few perspective errors and the armor not being bulky enough, I don't see anything wrong.

Also, what is a good way to learn anatomy?

Should I learn each part individually(E.G. cranium, then the muscles of the head, then the skin and all, and then go to another part) or finish the skeleton before jumping into muscles?

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 No.2663

>>2655

Bulky enough isn't necessarily the problem, it's that there's no real bulk whatsoever; it looks more like he's wearing a robe or a cape than armor. Another big problem is that the piece's whole concept is muddled by the angle, we can't really see any of the distinct attributes of the character; it looks like a guy in a neckbrace. Keep practicin' bud.

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 No.2670

I wanted to ask you guys who own graphics tablets, if you get insane wrist/elbow/shoulder pain after 2-3 hours? I draw both with pen and paper, and digitally and it just happens with tablets.

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 No.2671

File: 1458654620389.jpg (548.18 KB,657x2835,73:315,stretch.jpg)

>>2670

You should be drawing with your shoulder more than anything, fam.

Get a bigger tablet (ideally the biggest; the Huion Giano).

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 No.2692

>>2663

>no real bulk whatsoever

You mean it's to close to the body or that it doesn't look bulky enough? If it's the second one then do you have any tips on how to fix it?

>Another big problem is that the piece's whole concept is muddled by the angle

Yeah, I have seen the basics of how to make shit properly but I didn't how how to go about that one.

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 No.2695

File: 1458965211042-0.png (1.16 MB,1355x1305,271:261,Kof-xiii-maxima-win-portra….png)

File: 1458965211093-1.jpg (59.29 KB,500x1100,5:11,Maxima.(King.of.Fighters).….jpg)

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>>2692

>You mean it's to close to the body or that it doesn't look bulky enough?

You have to consider the solidity of the character's thick armor and how it's a separate entity from the character itself. Despite the fact that it's fairly "form fitting", it still has a bulk that projects it off from the character like you see in this official character art. In your picture, with the exception of the collar, the armor and his body look more like a reclining chair's backrest with something draped over it than a human character wearing shoulder pads.

With that said, it's very good that you're practicing perspective, but you have a ways to go. Consider using the mechanical pencil you used to create this piece to try Peter Han's manual dexterity exercises (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk), and then download "Fun With a Pencil" and draw what you see in the book. By the end of it, hopefully what I'm saying to you now will make more sense.

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 No.2957

File: 1460875052046.jpg (141.28 KB,720x540,4:3,a.jpg)

>>2695

I tried copying the first pic, how is it? I started by drawing a line where his shoulders probably are before drawing the armor to make it look bulky.

I also tried to draw a face but I just couldn't get the angle on the mouth right so I gave up.

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 No.2958

Does anyone knows a good source for pictures of naked poses?

I tried posemaniacs.com but I just can't do them properly for some reason, plus the poses seem kinda awkard for some reason and I would rather not have to rely on porn.

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 No.2959

>>2958

Why not? Softcore porn sites are a great source of high res photography of scantily clad humans.

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 No.2967

>>2959

>Softcore

O-oh yeah, those exist. Thanks

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 No.2972

>>2957

Much better, bud. There are still quite a few areas where you've missed the mark of course. One reason you might be getting shoehorned into these 'compromises' is that you simply haven't developed your manual dexterity to a point where you can manipulate your hand, arm and shoulder with the level of subtlety and finesse necessary. Consider following along with the Peter Han Dynamic Sketching videos on youtube; you'll be surprised how quickly your ability to put down certain angles and lines improves (but it won't be easy)

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 No.2974

>>2972

>One reason you might be getting shoehorned into these 'compromises' is that you simply haven't developed your manual dexterity to a point where you can manipulate your hand, arm and shoulder with the level of subtlety and finesse necessary

Yeah, I still suck at it and chicken scratch a lot. You can see in the pic that even the lines I drew just for guidance are drawn over multiple times.

>Consider following along with the Peter Han Dynamic Sketching videos on youtube

I already do I get told to watch this video for every post I do.

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 No.2979

>>2974

>I get told to watch this video for every post I do.

hahaha, well here's the secret man. I had to do what he does in that video for laround 3 hours every day for months (I wish I was joking) to get to a decent level of control.

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 No.3075

File: 1462685129449-0.jpg (362.08 KB,1000x651,1000:651,studywipdf.jpg)

File: 1462685129450-1.jpg (349.07 KB,1100x1103,1100:1103,wipcarravgiostudy.jpg)

ill post my weak studies here just to get input.

i have a weak eye since it's night time for me, but are there any glaring flaws that I could fix quickly?

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 No.3132

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File: 1463623814180-4.jpg (140.29 KB,790x1600,79:160,Untitled.jpg)

Fucking everything, how does it work?

I'm trying to git gud at shadows and form but it still looks potato tier. What am I fucking up?

First three are basic forms I did and tried to draw shadow, the other two are human forms I tried to copy.

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 No.3133

>>3132

Forgot to spoiler, sorry.

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 No.3138

File: 1463698017483.jpg (201.74 KB,1600x681,1600:681,1463623814179-0.jpg)

>>3132

Wrong pic in the first one.

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 No.3141

>>3133

Don't worry about spoilering nudes on this board man. I can see spoilering gay furry orgy stuff but this is an art board so tasteful nudity is perfectly fine.

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 No.3142

File: 1463881800661-0.jpg (4.16 MB,5312x2988,16:9,14638816434271771450906.jpg)

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So the one on pinkish paper is from a while ago, and the scratchy digital ones are recent. So far I know I am having issues with depth, proportions, straight lines, and cleanliness. Tips beyond practice until I scream?

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 No.3143

>>3142

Oh my god…sage for this, I forgot to spoiler. Sorry mods!

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 No.3147

File: 1463923707748.png (Spoiler Image,226.6 KB,1074x1343,1074:1343,Elemental Milf Princess.png)

I'm going to kill myself. Seriously? I can't draw hands. The harder I try, the harder I fail.

What kind of book or tutorial is good for a retard like me that struggles with this?

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 No.3148

>>3142

>Tips beyond practice until I scream?

Unfortunately that's pretty much all advice broken down to its logical conclusion. Do the Peter Han Dynamic Sketching exercises on youtube to develop a strong ability to place your lines from the get-go. It will take hours a day for weeks to happen, but it will make everything you do better so it's worth it.

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 No.7604

File: d5ba8d54a87982b⋯.jpg (187.69 KB,464x640,29:40,bouncerjorodowskiboucq.jpg)

>>938

>>936

>>942

You problaby ave become even greater than before,like to see something from current year.

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 No.7611

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Pretty comfy thread to read. I appreciate the guy who gave it a 9 month bump. I wonder how far the 2014-era posters in this thread have come now.

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 No.7616

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 No.7619

File: 6bbaa6782ef5335⋯.gif (969.95 KB,632x637,632:637,Bot Run WIP.gif)

>>7604

This isn't done but it's the best I have so far. I'm a little ashamed of myself. Someday we'll all make it, boys. Just need to work harder.

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 No.7625

File: fa3e9e3667b6a64⋯.jpg (1.46 MB,1300x2315,260:463,Out of Her Mind.jpg)

Had some colored pens lying around I thought I'd try to put to use. I never use color for the most part, but I felt I needed to branch out and at least give it a try. However, upon giving these a try, I realized they are nuclear colored and don't blend well, and since they looked like vomit, I drew vomit.

But hey, at least I tried something new, even if it didn't work. Guess I'll just have to shill out for proper pens.

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 No.7626

File: e18b8217b0592cb⋯.jpg (270.57 KB,1415x1000,283:200,2018-02-15 - 001e.jpg)

Plate 8 of Loomis' Drawing the Head and Hands done. Next come Plates 9 to 11, which are about using flat planes, and Plates 12 to 16 which are about developing a freer variety of forms. I anticipate that these will keep me busy for quite some time.

>>7625

That's a pretty cool experiment and I look forward to seeing more developed colour drawings from you one day. As for why it didn't work so well, I'm reminded of the common digital art mistake of shading by using a darker version of the same hue—makes the colour look dirty and muddy.

>>7619

I've seen this around a lot and always thought it looked pretty cool/cute.

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 No.7629

File: 05f69bb270c1339⋯.jpg (87.74 KB,900x992,225:248,Skull.jpg)

The bottom one on the left's nose looks way off but I swear on my mama that's the angle I saw. Ah well, I must be mistaken.

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 No.7630

File: f3bd6bd09299505⋯.jpg (88.79 KB,1109x832,1109:832,Skull_001.jpg)

>>7629

Couple mo'

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 No.7632

>>7630

Nice work. Are you using a skull model? I keep meaning to pick one up.

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 No.7633

Just a 3D model off of Proko's thing on my second monitor. With that said, Anatomy360.com has a real cheap model with better lighting (and looks to be a great resource besides) if that's something you'd be interested in.

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 No.7635

File: 98f1873d343836e⋯.jpg (765.41 KB,1080x1080,1:1,step1.jpg)

File: 8710da0d62838e6⋯.jpg (819.93 KB,1080x1080,1:1,step2.jpg)

File: 78ba4ca611217c0⋯.jpg (804.26 KB,1080x1080,1:1,masterstudy1.jpg)

Trying to go outside of my normal comfort zone and paint in new styles and techniques. In this one I let my paint sit on a pizza box for two hours or so before painting. The cardboard absorbed some of the oil leaving the paint much thicker than it is when straight from the tube. I even use Old Holland paint that is already known for being some of the thickest tubed paint you can buy, so the end result was really stiff and interesting to use.

I've been looking for a method to paint very directly and opaquely in small detailed areas and I think this approach would work well. I'm not a big fan of letting my paintings dry before doing something, I'm an alla prima fag so I don't want to have to rely on drying to be able to make a nice painting (although on "real" paintings I work on them for several days, just re-painting whole areas rather than doing some indirect approach). The stiffness of the paint really helped make adjustments feel very sculptural rather than slippery like they would with more medium.

Anyway, more experimentation with this approach needs to be done. Thought you guys may want to see a post on here that isn't digital.

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 No.7636

>>7633

Looking good man, the palette is great.

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 No.7637

>>7635

Awesome stuff. It almost looks like a cross between the look (saturation?) of pastel, almost watercolor like blending, and the texture of using a brush with oils.

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 No.7640

this >>7636 was meant for >>7635 lol

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 No.7642

File: 4b1e3011528547b⋯.jpg (362.48 KB,800x800,1:1,image-9.jpg)

File: d66f6538b07d3cc⋯.jpg (293.69 KB,672x800,21:25,image-8.jpg)

>>7637

Yeah I think stiffer paint opens up more possibilities in texture and blending. A bunch of medium just sort of blends everything together while stiffer paint lets you to both blend things smoothly but also lets you make that dry noisy surface and thicker paint strokes. This was one of the first times I actually used a palette knife to add paint and to adjust the paint on the surface. Will make another study tomorrow, will remove a little less of the paint but I have this transparent iron oxide red (highly recommend having it on your palette) that is very oily. I'll get the same pigment from OH but for now, I'll try and absorb some of it's oil contents until then.

One of my paintings from yesterday has now somewhat dried and it has sunken-in like crazy. This is on an acrylic primed linen canvas (I usually work on oil primed canvases, the difference is that an acrylic primed canvas absorbs some of the oil when working on it and an oil primed one is much less absorbent making the paint flow on it more) and I removed some of the oil from the paint, so when it dried, it comes up as super matte/reflective in the darks. Tried to take pics that show the colors/values how they were when I painted it. (this is one of the reasons you varnish oil paintings, to bring them back to their "wet" appearance"

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 No.7678

File: ad5255b257c4c5b⋯.jpg (144.08 KB,1000x1415,200:283,2018-02-19 - 001e.jpg)

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>>7635

>>7642

It's really cool to hear about and see this stuff.

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 No.7686

File: 381a78d63b1f87c⋯.png (188.97 KB,851x865,851:865,ClipboardImage.png)

A critter in thick clothing.

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 No.7795

File: 8dbd9ff60ca2bec⋯.jpg (862.3 KB,2552x2717,232:247,Untitled-Scanned-02.jpg)

Sorry I couldn't fit it all in the scanner, is it good?

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 No.8183

File: 0c7d4e86ad4069a⋯.jpg (320.27 KB,1152x2048,9:16,29060745_641204442937795_1….jpg)

File: 505376b8b5d65cc⋯.jpg (11.56 KB,400x263,400:263,overhand_down.jpg)

I had a little breakthrough tonight. Instead of drawing small with my hand, holding the pencil the same way that I write, I held it like this and drew larger on an easel pad, and moving my arm to make lines. It worked out a lot better. I think I should do it like this for now on, at least if I want to be a painter. now i see why people hold their pencils like this.

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 No.13211

File: 8f73008cbfe0506⋯.png (239.37 KB,800x800,1:1,headpractice.png)

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