/loomis/ - Art Gains

>>6572

>thanks I've followed you

That isn't me ya goof; I just try and catch her streams when I can

>But the other thing is I've decided to do a video tutorial, detailing the process I've described here >>6384

Righteous

>The biggest problem for me with twitter is not knowing how to get noticed, and not really enjoying the interaction aspect.

Just use the "@" and "#" thing a lot. @ brute forces your work on a specific person's timeline and # displays the content for someone searching for that term. At least that's how I think it works.

>If you have anything specifically you'd want to ask me, about it, feel free.

Not sure man, nothing too general for the most part, I guess the only thing I'd like to ask is the origin of the comic, just because you'd mentioned it was something you'd thought about since you were a fetus before Norman Reedus made being a fetus cool.

>>6581

>Now I take up a corner's worth of space

Soon.

Soon I will overtake these threads, as the "DESIGNATED SKETCHING ZONE"

>>6583

>that ain't me

Welp. Thanks for the twitter help, at least.

>The origin of the comic

You know, that's not a bad idea.

I realized, recently, that before I even cover the bases for making a page, I should probably cover overcoming the initial hurdle.

Because the current story to the comic is finalized and solid, sure, but the prior stuff was very loosely connected and unfocused.

Maybe touching on how the learning process is, or whatever. Dunno.

Since I'm going on a tangent, and the way I incorporate this might not even make it into a video if I ever got off my ass and around to making them, the origin of my comic isn't really anything grand.

I've always loved drawing fun and cool shit, and I've always wanted to make comic books.

When I was younger, I'd draw a bunch of random "cool shit" loosely tied together with vague themes. Those being

>heavily remixed loose interpretation of "super heroes"

>a city

>visual motifs, usually wordplay

Eventually I built up too much shit to leave it as isolated stuff with nobody knowing about it, so I decided to start working towards making a comic, and the ensuing rapid fire ego death.

I kept at it each day, and that's how we're here today.

>>6582

It's a cute character tho

>>6602

I thought you were going to fix the ork's pingas. I-…I got tired of waiting baka!

>>6606

I didn't realize how enormous Sally is

dat's hot

>>6609

wew I forgot to repost the fixed version.

>>6621

Not sure about that hollow at the base of the neck. IIRC the sternocleidomastoid pretty much inserts at the clavicle by the manubrium. I know there's a hollow there of some sort but I'm just uncertain it'd look like that. I think it more flows up towards the top of the deltoid between the clavicle and scapula rather than creating a little heart shape.

>>6623

>>6623

can you redline it for me

>>6623

>>6624

Nvm redlines are for pussies

just noticed I made the neck too long

>>6627

ah yea I see what you mean

>>6630

Looking pretty good. Notice how the curvature of the head of the model differs from that of your painting. See how the volume of her inner thigh on our right as well as the angle of the tibial portion of her leg differs as well. Keep practicin'.

>>6635

wouldn't an asian knight essentially be a samurai ;:0)

>>6638

Jokes on you, I've thought this through already, and yeah, he's still technically a knight.

That's cryptic as fuck, but the fact that I'm being cryptic is also indicative of why I can't say he's not a samurai.

I sure hope nobody figures out why.

>>6640

Hm.

Yeah, guess I'll have to do some of these, in the next few days, then.

I don't believe you, but since you'd guess I wouldn't, that just makes it seem valid to me.

>>6643

No I get that, and I'm intrigued because I know the general figure, proportions, ranges of motion, etc, of the body. But I lack the details.

Well that and not defaulting to my usual symbols, and my style having exaggerated proportions, but you get my point.

In fact, your sperging has me intrigued about you. You have a username on some site or chat client?

>>6655

>In fact, your sperging has me intrigued about you.

Oh you; I guess I'm just a little overeager in having found a way to conquer my specific brand of autism.

>You have a username on some site or chat client?

Nope, just this dead bort for the past three years. I'm still not confident enough in my work to publicly humiliate myself with it just yet.

>>6663

not bad, butt I wanna c u get srs nibba.

>>6658

Foreshortening is almost passable, keep practicing-and use a reference for that hand. Notice how the sleeve hugs the wrist on the opposite arm whereas the foreshortened arm's sleeve has a huge opening, though.

>feminine

I feel like her face might be a little tall and narrow. Make it a little wider and get rid of the bridge of the nose. Maybe that would help but idk lmoa

>>6633

Pecs and upper arm look pillow-shaded. Other than that, I like the linework on this piece.

>>6636

Keep going. Do construction.

>>6635

It's hard to make sense of how the teeth work. Where are the teeth on the other side of the mouth?

>>6658

Thumb and first finger are too fat compared to other fingers. Watch the anatomy on the other hand.

>>6666

I really like this one. The left arm (Our left) is narrower than the right arm, but I don't get the impression that either arm is too long. The wrappings on the calves look flat.

>>6637

Ears are odd.

Good to see y'all drawing. Make it.

>>6667

I was trying to go for a forward light-source, but now I see what you mean about the pillow-shading thing, thanks for pointin it out, boss.

>>6659

Yeah but I am interested in talking to you.

You don't have a discord or something?

>>6679

alright, alright you got me it's:

*tips fedora*#5884

I'm on right now bruh

>>6680

Just realized my account "isn't verified". Not sure if I can receive/send friend requests tbh, lmk. I might just make a new account after all.

>>6682

qt tbqph

>>6680

>>6681

Either way that username's not working.

Eh it's up to you whether you want to or not.

>>6687

If that one doesn't work again just let me know and I'll make a new one-I've been planning on doing so for a bit anyway (lost my password and had a joke email in place so I wasn't able to recover it)

>>6687

Nah, it worked.

>>6691

Loomis sounds perfect for you. Fun With A Pencil is a great place to start, but anons new to it sometimes get impatient with "blook" drawing. If that is the case, go ahead and try Figure For All It's Worth. You can always go back to FWAP after a few months when you gain more appreciation for the basics like I did.

>>6691

>have people tell me what tutorials I should start with

How to take good pictures 101 for starters

>>6694

Do you see my face in front of the pictures?

>>6695

I can hardly move my lower half at the moment. I have a phone near me I can use to take photos. I don't have much control over this shit other wise.

>>6704

As a "joke" page that utterly fails. It's just a huge amount of text. It's not interesting or funny, it's just a wall of text.

Parodying something that is bad doesn't work as a joke just because it's bad. It only works if the badness has some humour built into it you can exploit. For example a bad sonic recolour is funny because of how hard they try and utterly fail to make anything unique. They think they're unique when they're all generic and this lack of self awareness leads to dumber and dumber characters which in turn become funny. The humour is based on laughing at the person creating it rather than the character on their own.

Posting an entire wall of text, which appears to be mostly serious (I didn't read it all, why would I?) isn't funny. It's just you going "let me tell you about my D&D character" and then proceeding to do so. It maybe interesting to YOU but me as an outsider has zero reason to give a fuck.

If you're absolutely set on this form of humour then there's only 2 ways to make it work.

1, The person is super knowledgeable but naive. Think Data in Star trek. He's the smartest guy there is but he doesn't understand basic social interactions. His lack of awareness can turn his intelligence into a joke.

2, you have someone like Data but people simply tell him to shut up when he starts talking to long. Doesn't matter how useful it is or how vital it is that they listen they always tell him to shut up. This always back fires on them but they do it any way and smart guy is left face palming but forced to go along to make sure they don't die from their own stupidity.

As an author you sit in a unique position where you understand what things really mean. If you find the piece of paper saying "The password is 9847" in a game and you know it unlocks the best weapon in the game then you're excited. As someone playing for the first time I just have 4 numbers I have no reason to care about as it will just unlock yet another item cache for ammo and health like the last 10 did. Learn where you sit compared to where your reader sits and work towards their perspective not your own.

tl;dr Walls of text are not funny.

>>6711

Not him but tl;dr tbh. At least >>6704 was okay in the context of his story and character, your post as a one off is kind of like when someone says "let me tell you about my opinion" and then proceeds to do so heh

Sure it isn't exactly "LOL!" funny but condensing some exposition into a completely inoffensive single page gag is perhaps better than fleshing it out over the course of 8 chapters imho tbqph

>>6712

>tfw wouldn't know which one came second or first without the filename

I see we're both stagnating, hopefully we'll break out of this purgatory soon fam

>>6712

The right lacks personality compared to the left one. You lost all sense of style and became generic anime. It's nicely done but it doesn't stand out as something special.

>>6715

Normally i'd agree but this time you're full of shit

>>6716

How would I give it more personality

>>6719

How long is a piece of string?

Look at the jaw shape. Which of these has more personality?

>>6720

Im not sure what trying to say.

Perhaps you can illustrate an example

>>6722

I think he's saying to put more effort into your line weight

>>6722

The left one has a shape to it, you can see her having a cheek, It's a bit more curved, softer, more female.

The right one is generic anime face with thicker eye lashes. You could change the hair and take the point off the eye lashes and turn that face into absolutely any anime character you wanted.

You didn't develop your own style, you just went generic.

>>6725

I don't get it, it looked okay to me.

If the lineart and face are your biggest complaints then I guess I can rework those but the left image is objectively worse than the right.

>>6718

I'm not saying it to bully but it does look like lateral progress; the second one looks like the same artist tried to clean up an only slightly different drawing a bit. There's nothing that really stands out as being objectively better between the two and in some ways I feel the stumpy original has more appeal than its counterpart. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asserting that you haven't progressed at all necessarily but just that those two pictures don't make the best case for what progress you may have made. There's nothing harder for me personally than looking at something I'd done years ago and realizing I'd probably struggle to recreate it let alone improve it today so I don't get any pleasure out of saying that, either. For what it's worth, neither of them are particularly bad.

>>6728

Aw I see

>>6729

I made the left drawing quite some time ago I can't remember when, but its objectively bad.

And to claim that you cant seriously tell the difference between the two just came off as disingenuous and a bit trolly sorry

>>6730

It's a sketch. It's not supposed to be perfect. We're going to forgive a few flaws in that style of art. It's one of the strengths of a sketch to see it's flawed previous forms as it's refined.

>>6731

"I wrote something you're not supposed to read"

Then WHY INCLUDE IT? If you don't want me to read it don't offer me the choice to read it. If I see text in a comic that isn't a sign post or a billboard then I assume it's something I need to read.

Your head is stuck up your own asshole so far you think putting words in a text bubble means people shouldn't read them now. WTF happened?

>>6729

I will say this:

While the addition of superficial details like a smaller mouth or eyes and/or cleaner lines aren't really a sign of progress on their own I hope you understand, nonetheless you did…

Give the DS game console a better sense of solidity

Make the stripes on her sweater better accentuate the sweater's forms to a degree.

So that's not absolutely nothing as I may have inadvertantly implied, and on their own represent improvements.

>>6734

>>6735

Sorry to triple post, but I also realized another thing.

I'll recognize in advance that I fucked up in not making these two things one page, but that's also not something you brought up, nor would you probably have brought up.

But if you would have brought it up in response to my first reply?

Yeah I'll concede I made the mistake on that, because I did.

>>6734

You're sniffing your own farts again.

You're assuming the reader has knowledge they don't have because you as the author does.

The fact that you've now written 3 posts and posted a crappy manga to explain how you think it works means your interface isn't working. If I need a tutorial to read your comic then you fucked up and need to rethink the whole process.

>>6737

See >>6736

I beg to differ, I was able to preemptively recognize my mistakes, propose how to correct it in the future, and even provide an example of what I intended.

The fact that you say three posts instead of two, clearly shows you're the only one not listening here, when I just called what you'd say, and self corrected before you did.

>>6737

imho for one you seem to be addressing this issue as if the page itself is completely isolated from the rest of his comic. He probably wouldn't need to explain things to you if you'd read more than the three or four pages he's posted on this board across the past couple of draw threads gnomesaiyan. The point of what he was doing, including the notion of the rant itself being intentionally inscrutable to a degree, wasn't really lost on me.

>>6737

lol retard

>>6731

>>6734

>>6735

>>6736

Yea sorry, I meant 4 not 3. I was replying when you posted the 4th one.

>>6738

5

:)

>>6741

MAXIMUM DAMAGE CONTROL

Having text extend behind borders (of speech bubbles) is a clear sign a character is rambling and the full dialogue can be ignored. That's a convention that the strange visual medium of comics has built up over the years.

By itself, the page falls a little flat in design and it's not LOL funnay, but in the context of cooling down from the previous fight, it works as a breathing point. (it's also a call-back) Remember, these pages aren't ultimately meant to be read a week or more apart.

>>6742

>Someone points out you're lying

>RESPOND IN LARGE RED TEXT

>>6743

It doesn't work. In or out of context it doesn't work because it's a wall of text. I pointed out the situations where that comedy works. They're very limited and in this case it isn't working.

But hey, another shitty webcomic artist who can't write. At least it's not Megaman sprites these days.

>>6732

>It's a sketch.

You're assuming it was a sketch was quite flattering. But embarrassingly enough, I considered that a finished piece of art at the time.

Ill work on the image again after work though.

>>6753

Critiques for doodles are worthless.

Either make an actual drawing or call it an abstract painting or something.

>>6754

Fair enough. Critique my abstract painting please and thanks.

>>6758

>What were you trying to go for, and how well did you execute it?

That's a pretty good reminder and guideline next time I'm doodling or sketching stuff actually. Looking at them now it might be too abstracted and doesn't have enough concrete-ness and structure to it. Alright thanks.

>>6759

I think it has aesthetic appeal, moreso than a lot of "legendary" abstract works have honestly, if you recreated that in a physical medium I wouldn't be surprised if you could sell it out of a museum

>>6758

hey 6757 here

first of all nice drawing

yeah I felt that by adding the horizon line did help me with the drawings, and foreshortening is important to keep in mind so thanks for reminding me that.

but do you have anything like an instruction on how to make it better or do i just need to be more observant?

>>6760

>if you recreated that in a physical medium

I want to do that in the near future, not necessarily those doodles specifically but making a physical version from digital. I find I gravitate towards stuff that has both abstract and concrete. But I should definitely practice some more and improve.

>>6757

As quick gestures they look okay, maybe try adding straight lines to contrast with the S and C curves, but that's just me.

>>6761

I'm really liking that dry brush effect on the b&w portrait study. The ear might need more definition. There's some good looking brushstrokes in there overall tho.

>>6763

alright man I will try adding the stright lines

>>6633

>>6751

you got a DA or some shit? Cause I've just been saving your pictures like a creep to look at otherwise..

>>6765

looking good

>>6767

https://dunkleshreken.deviantart.com/

Here you are mah nigga. I might start uploading sketches to it as well just to keep a constant flow of content.

>>6762

That was a redline of another dude's drawing. Not sure what instruction to give. Only thing that comes to mind is to be be less reluctant to place body parts like a shoulder partially or almost entirely behind another body part (e.g. neck or closer shoulder). Yes be more observant.

>>6699

>>6758

>Long chest.

Is it? Or does the length of the sweater make it look that way?

The shadow on the inner thigh looking like a crotch doesn't help either.

>>6712

The one on the left is proportionally drawn better than the one on the right tbh.

>>6785

cute fam, post your friend's too

>>6758

>Her muscles and shoulderblades look too much like overlapping armour plates because the lines don't disappear enough.

Thanks for the advice, I'll look into making the muscles disappear more. I'll post progress soon.

>>6800

I don't know if that's a furry, if so not really my thing but I'm interested in the background landscape. Especially the dusk or dawn color palette. I have to do more of those as well as a nocturne.

Did you do the color from studying a photo or did you do it from real life? Urban nocturne scenes can have those gorgeous pinks orange and blues.

>>6799

she looks like she wee'd herself, lad.

>>6808

M-maybe she did.

Yeah, I knew I screwed up that spot black as soon as I did it. My inking / texturing gets too heavy.

>>6812

Your subject looks more female in the painting than the photo.

>>6822

I was about to say that. My guess is the fuller lips and slender neck. The bigger chest might have a play too but it's not what I first focused on.

>>6832

>This is what a kangaroo looks like, right?

>I think it is.

I'm going to go ahead and say yes. It's almost Francis Bacony in it's kangarooness.

>>6832

I didn't know Proko browses here.

>>6801

guess it counts as furry. colors were studied from a photo, though i don't have said photo anymore, perhaps i could hunt around for it and post it sometime. one day i hope to be proficient at coloring.

>>6839

I genuinely do like the left more

It's got more personality

>>6751

>>6633

>>6836

It looks very good. It sort of reminds of Junju Ito's, Miura's, or Bosch's art, but not quite.

By the way, how do you get your stuff to look so clean when digitized? Whether I scan them or take photos, I can't quite get rid off of erased pencil traces from my drawings. Do you need a specific kind of scanner/camera? Do you spend a lot of time in Photoshop cleaning your work? Do you use non-photo pencils? Do you just go with inks or soft graphite right away?

>>6835

That front girl's left leg is weird with that one extra line coming out below the kneecap. Are you the same guy as >>6799 and >>6666 ? The wrist joints of your characters seem to be hyper flexible.

>>6838

This drawing is very flat. The tree trunk on the right doesn't look curved, the bottom orc's left arm is short, and the right forearm goes straight down instead of going towards the viewer from the shoulder. It's most apparent in how his chest and abdomen look 2x or 3x as long as what is anatomically correct because those parts are oriented down instead of along the line of sight of the viewer. With more attention to line control and placement, some of this could be fixed (e.g. the handle and lid of the urn, the tree bark) but the majority of your effort should be directed towards construction.

>>6845

Cool, looking forward to Sally's one.

>>6847

Punch-drunk.

>>6857

You did a pretty good job with that elbow anon. It's all about soft and hard edges of color and value

>>6857

>I really dont know what Im doing with soft brushes. How do I color using soft brushes?

Mix soft brushstrokes with hard brushstrokes as necessary.

>>6857

You use soft brush when there's a level of gradient color in your drawing. This happens when soft light exposure exist. There's nothing wrong on how you applied it though. It just give you a certain effect on your drawing where it looks realistic with soft light exposure. What matter most is how you apply the color into your drawing, and of course the logic of light source projection is also important. Make sure don't screw that up.

Speaking of color, it looks kind of dull in your drawing. Give it some more light exposure so that it looks more vibrant. Because of the dull color, the soft light doesn't have much appeal in your drawing. Other than that, you need more practice on your figure pose dynamic and composition.

>>6838

Are you the same guy who drew the futa and burping autism in the previous thread?

>>6864

>Speaking of color, it looks kind of dull in your drawing. Give it some more light exposure so that it looks more vibrant

This is something that Im aware of and struggle with. When I try to work more contrast in it starts looking either muddy or the colors look wrong together - I dont know why because I think that my color picks work when doing toon shading.

>>6886

Try using a weird, 2 tone, palette, like blue and pink, and drawing something with form.

What this is is high contrast, but it'll force you to think more if you avoid using the standard black and white.

Likewise you can add in more colors, to get really wild.

Basically what I've heard is that if you learn how to reasonably control the extremes, you can then pull it back to more reasonable stuff.

>>6885

Nah, I did do the Orc, Conan, Skullface girl and medieval pugs on the header image tho.

>>6911

The panties squeezing her. HNNNNNGGG

>>6838

well uh that sure is….something

>>6903

Nice Magali.

>>6917

>might

No, you will or you won't do it.

>>6918

go back to twitter you bee fucker

>>6918

He already agreed to pay me, so far he only wants sketches to get a feel, but he's paying me for those too.

>>6919

I've been spamming this video across multiple boards for at least two years and I have to say I haven't the first fuckin' clue as tonwhat you're talking about

>>6921

only person I've ever seen spamming it was maldraw when he starts shilling his shitty fucking webcomic

>>6925

I'm glad to say I'm not that guy. Some of his stuff has a weird appeal to it despite how amateur it is but it's sad how little he's improved. Last I've seen he's just been doing nothing but posting politics shit on twitter (to his legions of bot followers)

>>6927

He posts his shit on /pol/ pretty frequently, and just calls you a "nigger lover" if you don't suck his dick.

I'm half convinced he isn't even human, given how ridiculous his responses are.

>>6928

Maldraw is just aggressively autistic, and its really obvious when he's posting so you can tell when its him.

He shills his shitty comic whenever he manages to grab a new IP but lately he's been disillusioned with drawing and claimed to have given up on it.

Good riddance all I can say.

I like seeing the various pieces here and recognising the regulars and sometimes the semi-regulars. Good work lads.

>>6853

Upper part of her left arm looks short.

The splash of saturated red in a big mass of less saturated blue is interesting but it looks weird when it's only the one accessory. What if she had lipstick and shoes that matched, so that there were multiple points for the eye to rest on while looking at the picture?

>>6903

Now these are damn cute. I love the colours you used. There's something odd about the nipples in the first pic but I can't put my finger on what exactly. It might be the placement, or the sharpness of the edge, or the size difference.

>>6911

What's going on in the area where her buttcheek meets her thigh on her left leg?

>>6917

Is the dude's right arm pointing down or is it supposed to be going towards the viewer a bit? It's hard to tell. The part where the blood/tendrils meeting the robe under the armpit is a bit vague, as the values are really similar. The oranges don't appear to change size even as they vary in distance from the viewer.

>>6847

Thank you anon. That's pretty much what I do already. I guess I just need to make my preliminary lines lighter, be more attentive when erasing, and plan out my work better. I am also gonna try non-photo pencils and see if they help.

>>6980

Looks like two different characters tbh, keep practicing!

>>7002

Much better. Good work

>>7002

Improvement acquired.

Much better famalama.

>>6991

At the moment, it is a coming of age story about a lethargic homeless girl tucked within an action thriller about a city being falling apart from political insanity and superpowered human chaos.

>>7018

damb

>>7023

Might be an opportunity to push your rendering further if it's something you seldom do.

>> 7024

The thing i do the most is redering just to hide most of my mistakes because i'm somewhat decent at it, all those skecths i did it's because i don't do this very often, so i'm trying to get out of my comfort zone doing more lines and more intresting poses in perspective. I just did the redering in the other drawing because i really like to do this shit, god knows why.

>>7036

>tfw no clops gf

All I can really say is that looking at Marvel/DC comics and manga directly is probably your best bet.

>>7042

Just realized I probably shouldn't shit up the drawing thread with so many pictures of my BALLS; please excuse me

>>7040

>barbarian catgirl ASMR

That's a pretty interesting concept.

>>7044

Wellllll, its catgirl asmr anyway.. and she does end up blood splattered ina video at least. Her being a swole warrior woman was me projecting my own tastes onto her.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6AbHP3JAjpbkW2baqPvt0OngOELVz01c

>>7043

Fuck off and post your balls you triple nigger.

>>7067

What's that cute furburger thing?

>>7066

Your faces lack structure, dude. Look into Reilly/Loomis

>>7075

Learning? Work? I didn't become a neet for this!

>>7082

If you're just out of highschool or even yet to graduate I'd suggest a part time job (20hr a week tops) just so you can afford the best equipment, materials and perhaps attend local classes. Don't be like me and work two jobs until you're 30 like an idiot-but don't be such a recluse that you have to settle for inadequate equipment and a substandard education either

>>7085

I'd say that a part time that's just enough to support yourself, while you work on what you actually care about, is pretty much ideal.

Though it's also not really very good for the longterm, unless you think your material is marketable.

>tfw been over a week since I last talked about other peoples' drawings

>>6963

These two are better, though I think the line on the first girl's right tit is too thick.

>>6976

I like the chrome leggings and hair on the second pic. In your later post >>7002 the nipples are improved. The creases in skin where two parts join tend to look weird, as they're not being consistently shaded with the same strength. E.g. look at the leftmost girl with the smallest tits, her pubic mound has a strong "V" but the girl next to her doesn't. In other cases there are inconsistencies within the same character, e.g. the cleavage of the girl with the largest breasts compared to her genital area. As >>7024 says, keep rendering.

>>6977

Good range of silhouettes. That girl on the very left is slouching/leaning a lot. If you flip the image horizontally, does anything jump out at you?

>>6980

Hand placement is strange here, doesn't look three dimensional at all and it's hard to tell if the hands are supposed to be gripping what's below them or not.

>>6982

Third and fifth bounce feel too floaty. This one >>7017 also.

>>7011

Good work. Be careful with the gaze—you can see the whites above the pupil on one eye but not the other.

>>7036

Cool sketches. Something's bugging me about the legs of the cyclops girl. Her hips seem to be somewhat disconnected from where the legs begin, in the sense that both legs are a few pixels to the left of where they should be.

>>7040

Breasts at the bottom of the first pic are too wide, like they're being pulled up and out by something invisible. The shading needs to be developed more, as too much of it merely follows creases in the skin and clothes (also seen in >>7066).

>>7067

It's bothering me that the edges (both outside and inside) of the grass closest to the viewer are so round. The uniform grey backdrops and the chains in the second image of >>7070 also bothers me because it's below your usual quality.

>>7074

My favourite is snake hat girl. Afro up top looks like a crossdressing man and I can't say why. The ears are big, but it could also be the brows, or maybe the image resolution's just too small.

>>7100

Anon, that lady has a huge dick!

>>7097

I think it makes sense that the chains and backgrounds in >>7070 are "below his usual quality" because that page is actually a few months old iirc.

>>7103

It gets bigger when you pull on it

>>7100

>>7101

Dude, I get you want to share your work and all, but please don't come here with your weird fetish art. It's just kinda gross and makes people feel awkward to be posting in the thread. You should either post it on other boards more suited for it or keep it to yourself.

>>7109

Maybe a porn thread would be more appropriate though, I don't know. There's just not very many people using art boards on 8gag to begin with.

>>7111

For the record I agree with him that it's pretty gay or whatever and you should try and stop being such a gay gaylord for both your sake and that of our lord and savior, Jesus Christ. However, I guess after how-ever-many [current year]s on 4chan I'm pretty well desensitized by now so I try and be as objective as possible.

>that pic

Oh don't be sad

>>7113

>babies

Rude

>>7097

>Afro up top looks like a crossdressing man and I can't say why. The ears are big, but it could also be the brows, or maybe the image resolution's just too small.

Her extreme height, beady pupils, and over done make-up don't help either.

(Also, she's in a different, almost fish-eyed perspective, which makes her stand out odd from the rest of the lineup.)

>>7111 (nice)

At least you don't draw inflation or some other high octane autistic fetish.

>>7108

Nigger grow a fucking pair.

>>7113

>people not wanting to see your autistic shit is being a baby

wew lad

>>7129

shut up or ill whip you boi

>>7128

This tbh fam

>>7129

That's why he spoilered it tho, wasn't that nice of him? See, degenerates aren't all bad!

>>7140

The part where her bicep overlaps her hand looks off because of how it compresses into such a thin thing. It looks like a piece of taffy or something my nig. It also looks like her HEAVING BREASTS should be overlapping her arms just a bit as well.

>>7141

I getchu fam, I'll work on it tomorrow though.

How's her stomach area + abs looking?

>>7143

Okay as far as I can tell

>>7100

Stomach and ribs of the dickgirl look thin in contrast to the big thigh.

>>7117

Good work, keep sharpening the edges

>>7150

Wrist looks better now, appropriately bony.

>Not really sure on how to get the "tits overlapping arms" look.

Just cover the forearms with the tits. It seems like you're trying to have your cake and eat it too, in the sense that you want folded arms with the golden armbands prominent to convey the character's toughness while also wanting big, pushed-up tits front and centre for the lewd factor.

With tits that big, they might peek out the neck of the clothing.

>>7159

>The main thing is how you've got her wider than she is

This is gonna sound like a dodge but I was actually trying to make her bigger/swoler than she is on model.

>>7159

I think you improved the proportions (she is too wide to be considered feminine) and her arm did look a little long as consequence. However, you think he should tone down her tiddies? We, the people, say no.

>lacking her ulnar

huh

>>7163

He's made a point or two, it's up to you if you want to follow them or not, of course.

>>7165

>He's made a point or two

Yeah I know, just thought it was important in case it affected any other point.

>>7176

>>7172

I see what you're getting at.

Time to work my magic… Ha… ha… ;_;

also

>tfw no orc woman to wrestle and dominate

>>7230

Forgot to say this, but there's two things here that are going to be critically important later.

One of which you've seen, one of which is new.

I can't say what they are, or why, but they're there.

>>7228

Not particularly. Her pelvis has shrunken even more, and her torso has become even broader. I get you want her to look jacked, but there's a limit to it, and I think you should look into proportions a bit.

>>7228

Sorry bud, still off. Her tits look like slabs of marble which is kind of hot but not natural looking. Also you have her deltoid overlapping her trapezius on our right in the front when it should be kind of "inserted" into it. Keep workin'!

>>7230

Scary teefs, I like her cute "now listen here you little shit" pose, pretty sure you'd posted it before at some point. When you make a panel I take it you draw the images individually and just crop and free-transform them to size, right? Or is it just circumstantial?

>>7233

Still too wide at the shoulders tbh. In fairness to both of you this is a deceptively tough pose to get right, especially when you're tossing some bomb-ass titties into the mix. Definitely look at some references.

>>7239

>tfw I read it

Why I oughta'!

>>7240

>>7241

>Hey, don't sweat it mate.

No, and you can't stop me. Reee

Anyway how's she looking now then?

>>7239

>>7250

Also I've been looking up Wonder Woman and Supergirl comics to get a better jist of what I'm doing, seems like it would be a good idea.

There was some "controversial" asian comic book writer that wrote a book on how to draw women, anyone remember its name / his name?

>>7251

Frank Cho, maybe?

>>7253

That's the one, thanks!

>>7250

Killing Bites

>>7256

the face is pretty unappealing, and the shape of her overall doesn't convey this.

Look at the girls you're talking about, they all have very round, beanish, almost circular, soft features to them.

And you're using hard angles to the point where her chin is a corner, and in turn using a triangle as her primary shape.

Sharp chins, like that, are usually used to convey things like "cunning" or, pardon the pun, "sharpness." It's an aggressive shape that implies a level of trickery and deceit, which doesn't really blend well with the facial aesthetic you've chosen. My advice would be to try and use more soft features, and shapes that convey a sense of approachableness, and internal dread. By "dread" I mean like how Lain always looks on the verge of just breaking down, as an example.

>>7256

If you haven't practiced perspective much, I'd suggest practicing with linework, as you aren't able to trick your brain into thinking there's more depth than there is, like you can with form rendering.

Of particular note is conveying perspective, without the use of lineweight. It's possible, but more difficult. Really though all you need to know is geometric forms, and being able to envision a 3D space. Start with basic blocks if you have to, before moving on to making more complex things, as humans are one of the hardest things to draw.

>>7258

…more

>>7249

Youve made spme significant improvements so far.

The face still needs to be adjusted however. Her left (viewers right) eye is too spaced out

>>7296

Yeah, I'd say that's basically it.

At this point what holds her back is just the obvious, fundamental stuff.

You know the stuff. "Perspective, construction, proportions" etc.

Work on the foundation, and with your newfound knowledge, you'll do well.

>>7374

/tg/ pls stay

>>7375

W'elp. There goes MUH DICK again

>>7374

it's an incredibly generic design, and the lack of defined hands (and presumably feet), coupled with the lackluster art, results in an overall unappealing image.

What exactly are you aiming for in this?

>>7388

It's still work in progress and not the final design, i'm trying to go for a sense of awkardness and unease in this image while still maintaining the cutesy aspect of the character in question.

>>7393

as it stands, it's basically just a generic /v/-tan type of stickman, minus the hands, and with some triangles bolted to the side of its head.

You gotta try harder, if you want the design to stick.

>>7395

very good lighting, though the poses all sort of blend together, and come across as very samey.

>>7402

Experiment with hard shadows and a clear light source. It looks very fuzzy.

>>7402

What the hell am I looking at?

>>7410

The fuzz has been a constant struggle for me, thank you for confirming my suspicion.

>>7384

i'm not worthy of /tg/