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 No.527 [View All]

>tfw no Krita gf

https://krita.org/

I can't believe this program is free; it's improved so much since its first release as far as stability's concerned, too. Some dude's even working on an animation plugin for it. Does anyone know any legit non-Toon Boom or Flash animation software in the interim? So far I've tried Synfig Studio and Pencil2D and they were both unimaginably shitty.
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 No.10443

>>10424

I'd be happy to, if only it didn't take weeks/months to learn how Krita's internals work. I'm also not confident that the codebase isn't over engineered labyrinthian cancer, based on my perception of modern software development and how they approached the new text tool.

>>10437

I use the mouse wheel to zoom, it feels easiest to step into a different zoom level with, especially since there's no +/- buttons and the slider is half broken.

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 No.10599

File: 67e1d993257f5d4⋯.jpg (23.75 KB,500x375,4:3,tableta-digitalizadora-gen….jpg)

File: 81d377ef91fcd06⋯.gif (1.51 MB,696x478,348:239,9687984.gif)

It is a very interesting program, and it shows that it is of good quality. On one occasion I had the opportunity to try it but it did not work correctly.

Apparently the program does not work with the tablet that I use.

>mfw I have to use a genius tablet

>I'm damm poor to not be able to buy a cheap wacom

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 No.10623

>>10599

>mfw I have to use a genius tablet

Get a better tablet then, genius

>tfw anyone in the western hemisphere says they can't afford something short of a house, a yacht or a college education

>inb4 you live in south america or some shit like that

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 No.10625

>>10623

>Get a better tablet then, genius

I'm trying to get a better tablet, don't worry. You don't need to be so jerk calling me "genius" anon.

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 No.10626

>>10625

I wasn't trying to sound mean, geez. I'm sorry.

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 No.10630

File: b81323d7f72fec8⋯.png (293.21 KB,640x512,5:4,21-09-2018.png)

>>10626

It's ok anon, me too. I want to apologize for calling you a jerk. Here's a picture I've just finished for you anon.

Have a good day.

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 No.10632

>>10630

Very nice study anon, good job on the reflected light on the cup with the alternating soft and hard edges.

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 No.10633

>>10632

Also the subtle tonal differences in the apple's skin are great. One observation, I feel there is a very slight discrepancy on that curvy cup's contours around the bottom half. Just a slight difference in the base's angle from one side to another and perhaps the placement of the curve's deepest recession. No apologies necessary…I was being a jerk :x

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 No.10634

File: 4eb42b479c6314f⋯.jpg (1.19 MB,2000x1344,125:84,Still_Life_Reference-27.jpg)

>>10633

Thanks anon, I really appreciate it. That picture was made for color practice primarily. I tried to draw the objects correctly, but it was difficult. To draw the cup, I tried to do it by hand so that it would look like the picture, but it did not turn out very well.

Here is the reference photo

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 No.10635

>>10634

You did a fine job lad, no worries. One thing we could always use is a pair of fresh eyes after a long drawing or study. I once drew a character with six fingers, a subtle mistake in an angle or curve here or there hardly compares to something like THAT. Keep it up

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 No.10636

File: 626e6274fa37b31⋯.png (81.45 KB,480x480,1:1,194.png)

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 No.10728

File: dbabe66fb68e703⋯.png (6.23 KB,265x218,265:218,krita colorize mask.png)

>finally get around to using the 'colorize mask' tool they just released in 4.0.0

>It's actually really nice to have what's practically a paint bucket that doesn't care that you have such sketchy lines

>see this little pallet in the corner, think 'oh cool, I can change up the colors later if I want them a little darker/lighter'

>nope, just selection, or delete

>If you want to make an area lighter/darker, need to delete that color and redraw over all the areas you want that color

wack

other than that and it not deciding on where it wants to save stuff, I really like this program.

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 No.11623

File: 2e42b7dcdf903e9⋯.png (147.86 KB,270x400,27:40,2e42b7dcdf903e9a689d2c28f7….png)

>fundraiser ends

>allows developer to work full time and make more progress than ever!

>not a peep in 2 months now

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 No.11625

File: f0add8e146da994⋯.gif (1.85 MB,250x188,125:94,....gif)

>>11623

>fundraiser ends

>one of the news updates was something about the team taking a vacation. No, not a break, like literally leaving the country

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 No.13333

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 No.13411

>>13333

oh boi! time to reinstall!

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 No.13485

>>13333

Text tool when

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 No.14345

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KRITA 4.2 FINALLY OUT

I repeat

KRITA 4.2 IS FINALLY FUCKING OUT

*breathes in*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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 No.14346

File: f055178e4d97cba⋯.png (151.9 KB,604x395,604:395,pvorcziz.png)

>>14345

Wow, half a year of waiting for minor improvements. Another feature that literally fucking nobody cares about (windows 10 exclusive color mode for HDR monitors) and 99% of those people won't even be able to tell the difference with is the main highlight.

Brush speed improvement is the only thing worth mentioning, and I can't recall a time when that was a problem to me as opposed to the slowness of large layers themselves.

In usual Krita Quality fashion all of these features are half-solutions and sidegrades. They put the rotation control into the overview docker, but didn't put rotation reset, rotate 90degrees, any kind of zoom buttons, or fix the zoom slider. There's now an useless layer created every time you make or remove a selection that shifts all of your layers down and messes with your muscle memory and awareness of their locations. They did some minor alteration to the text tool but didn't bother to fix anything else about it, not even the fact that the layer still goes in the wrong fucking place when you create it. They put the options from the color slider docker into a dropdown menu requiring you to now click twice to change the mode, and for the sake of what, saving 10 pixels of vertical space? You can configure the location for backup files, but not for autosave files even though the options are literally adjacent to one another. The noise fill function can't generate noise clouds even though it's a trivial addition to a seeded noise generator (literally just generate X layers with different frequencies and then blend the pixels together), the frequency value makes no sense and it also can't generate noise smaller than 4 pixels wide. Some of the highlighted "features" are bugs and missing features that should have been there to begin with. Wow clone tool now has a trivial basic option that it should have had all along! Wow undo now works correctly!

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 No.14347

>>14346

ALMOST A YEAR LONG WAIT FOR A NOTHING BURGER. I AM ARTISTICALLY RUINED!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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 No.14348

File: 7f274717338e47c⋯.png (96.02 KB,364x333,364:333,perhaps.png)

>>14346

I haven't upgraded since they've added animation support to be honest famiglia. That's enough for me and I'm used to it now.

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 No.14690

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 No.14991

File: 1eaae3cdef1d728⋯.jpg (53.63 KB,638x480,319:240,1559533933741.jpg)

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 No.14993

>>14991

>some obscure bug fixes

Is it really worth announcing?

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 No.14994

Feels quite a bit faster, this one might be worth a try. It gives me close to the same feeling as when I'm drawing on Photoshop CS5

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 No.15012

File: 7e8068de2e4aa23⋯.png (3.27 KB,270x133,270:133,Color-slider-docker.png)

>>14991

>Color slider still not back

When

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 No.15013

>>15012

That would take AT LEAST 10 minutes to develop from scratch. Stop being so greedy and be patient!

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 No.15069

>>15012

what was wrong with it that they had to take it out?

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 No.15219

(Relatively) New Krita Release, fuckers!

https://krita.org/en/item/krita-4-2-8-released/

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 No.15220

I can't believe this thread is almost 5 fuckin' years old smgdh

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 No.15221

When was the last time they did something that actually mattered? The only thing I remember was some brush rendering speed improvement a while ago.

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 No.15236

>>15221

Your guess is as good as mine. The Animation + any animation reliability updates are really all I look forward to and I don't think either have been touched in a while.

>>15235

Never heard of it but I'd be open to try. Krita actually has the best animation timeline in the business in my opinion but it's still too unstable to trust anything serious with. ToonBoom is complicated as fuck and I'm a retard so I don't even use it even though I paid like $1,500 for it. CSP seems to be the most reliable and intuitive for me but I'll always give anything new a fair shake (it's not like I'm not used to being extremely disappointed by now in any case).

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 No.15349

>>15221

Nigger, what? The penultimate time I installed it vs the last time I installed it was the difference between crashing frequently and not crashing at all.

>>15236

Try Pencil2D. It's free and as easy to use as it can get.

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 No.16389

File: 9a0358d21c724ee⋯.png (156.9 KB,388x352,97:88,waiting_for_an_actually_fu….png)

>8 million years later

>4.3 beta is out

>text tool still remains usable

>the word "text" does not even occur in the entire changelog page

https://krita.org/en/item/first-beta-of-krita-4-3-0-released/

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 No.16392

>>16389

Came here to post this. I don't care about text much but it really should be something of a priority you'd think.

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 No.16395

>>16389

I've found it to be serviceable, especially ever since they added the pop-up window to edit the text. It's still lacking but it crashes less often.

I still miss the old brushes though. I don't know why they changed everything like that.

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 No.16527

File: ef1a6209992aec2⋯.png (85.73 KB,512x512,1:1,krita_pepe_512.png)

You can checkout /oc/ over at nanochan.

http://nanochanqzaytwlydykbg5nxkgyjxk3zsrctxuoxdmbx5jbh2ydyprid.onion/oc/68.html

I'll share tips and tricks over there.

Wanna create Gifs? I'll record a tutorial today.

Only elite people accepted. No degenerates.

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 No.16528

File: e5930535c1a5b3a⋯.gif (430.6 KB,560x470,56:47,animation.gif)

>>16527

RARE

Krita really is great for .gifs

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 No.16529

>>16528

Don't tell me you've animated that.

If that was the case, you're already technically more skilled than I.

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 No.16541

File: 0e8a2fdc957706f⋯.gif (730.89 KB,499x560,499:560,Illustration4.gif)

>>16529

I did; if you're into animation I strongly suggest looking into "AMB Animation Academy" stuff. It's easily the best shit on the subject I'm aware of. The only problem is it's pretty informal so it can be a bit hard to follow. I wish the guy would write a book instead of posting unedited videos where he goes off on tangents and argues with his audience on occasion etc. but the material is worth its weight in gold.

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 No.16560

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

New Krita, fuggers.

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 No.16563

>>16560

https://krita.org/en/krita-4-3-release-notes/

Shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

FINALLY THEY RELEASED IT!

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 No.16567

>>16560

>>16563

>it's nothing

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 No.16568

File: 63c7256bf29e4e1⋯.png (1013.93 KB,1607x906,1607:906,krita_splashes.png)

>>16567

It's a huge deal.

The Krita splash screen doesn't suck ass anymore. We're slowly recovering.

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 No.16636

>>16567

Watercolour brush engine is nice to play with, also the android port is pretty good since there was no open source art programming on tablets til now

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 No.16637

>>16636

I know, but I'm trying to force a meme over here

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 No.16643

>>16636

>Watercolour brush engine

You're going to play around with it for 7 minutes but never actually use it for anything practical. Meanwhile basic features like text tool that almost everyone needs is still completely broken.

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 No.16866

Krita is open source. Because of that, developers are not paid to make it better. Instead, developers are generally all users of the software and submit improvements all the time. The more users that get involved, the more improvements get made. Developers usually do it because they want to. and if they get the software into professional art studios that make more money from supporting the software. Its a way better way to develop software than working 8 hours a day at a software company just to produce mediocre products for the retail market.

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 No.16867

>>16866

Yes we know. It's a good software that has improved by leaps and bounds since this thread was created five years ago, but complaining about stuff is fun

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 No.16898

File: 7cd23e307ce48be⋯.jpg (117.69 KB,928x368,58:23,Untitled.jpg)

>>16866

This is the common argument used by FOSS people to justify laziness, bad design decisions and bad software in general. "It's made for free so you can't expect anything", "it's open source so fix it yourself".

Firstly, Krita has ran fundraisers to get money for certain developers to work on it full-time for some periods, continually takes in donations, and often gets contributions from GSoC where people get monetary awards for their work. It's not done for free when someone is receiving money for it.

Secondly, Krita, as described by the official website, is advertised as a professional tool for people in various kinds of artistic fields. When you're telling professional artists to use your shit, there's an expectation of some level of professionality, and the expectation that you don't have to switch your profession to a computer programmer and then familiarize yourself with 7 gigabytes of spaghetti code that has been strung together by ragtag groups of random people and start developing it yourself just to get it to work.

The least you could expect is for them to fix the fucking text tool that is an absolutely core tool in any serious graphics program, but it's as if nobody gives a shit or even plans to ever fix it. How the fuck can you justify leaving it as such a dysfunctional piece of shit for over 2 years now after making promises to make it great? THE LAYER DOESN'T EVEN GO INTO THE CORRECT LOCATION WHEN YOU CREATE IT, that's not even a difficult fucking problem to fix, just go to where the layer is created and make it go to the correct place instead of being pasted into the top of the layer list, that functionality already exists since every other layer goes into the correct place, why hasn't it been fixed for over 2 years? This is absolutely not something you'd expect from a "professional" tool and makes the developers look downright incompetent. I don't even expect the tool to be super fancy like Gimp's, I just want the text to not look like a near-unreadable garbled mess, a new layer to be created when I create a new text box, not having to manually move the layer into where I was every time I type text, an actual text box that the text gets wrapped into, and the font/size/etc to not reset after every text box. If you really want to go all out then add an option to put the text editor into the tool docker instead of a popup that makes the entire program window a pain in the ass to interact with. As a developer myself I think these are not a high expectations in any way, the only problem that's remotely complicated is making the text look good, it's the only thing I could justify excuses for since they probably used some premade SVG text rendering system and don't know how to control it, can't find anything better, and maybe don't even see a problem with because it's utilizing some operating system functionality (common mistake in text systems) that changes from system to system.

I'm not complaining because some fancy feature from Photoshop isn't there, I'm complaining because the program is full of broken shit in the most basic and fundamental parts of it and all of it is very simple stuff that I cannot imagine being complicated to fix, like the way merging a yellow layer with a yellow layer results in an uncolored layer. You're already copying properties to the new layer, why not copy the color as well? You cannot come up with any justifiable reason for why this is still broken.

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