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 No.3604

When drawing the human head, is it better to start with a circle, or with an "egg" shape?

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 No.3605

I feel like the constructed circle is more versatile, and easier to freehand than an egg shape.

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 No.3606

>>3605

Especially in perspective. After all projecting a sphere on the plane of your sheet always yields a circle, but projecting an egg is a whole other kind of fuckery.

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 No.3847

box>circle>egg

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 No.3850

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>>3847

I'd consider using a box to just shorthand the head for a gesture drawing or something…maybe, but actually using it to construct the head seems ass backwards. I don't know. A circle and some lines seems way more expedient.

You're right about the egg though. Far more difficult to freehand and way less practical than either.

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 No.3970

Circle, it lets you get a more even head shape and be more versatile for different angles

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 No.3974

>>3604

If you're good at the egg you will have pretty much the easiest time filling out the rest.

Circle is good, but it can make things harder in some situations/angles.

Box is just for perspective.

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 No.3975

>>3974

To add, though. The circle as a cranial unit is the best measuring tool for proportion.

Circles don't foreshorten and stay the same size no matter the angle, and the human body can still be broken into those units.

Complete "head heights" are great for straight forward poses and the like, but become less useful in foreshortened poses.

The thing about circles is, they also fit perfectly into boxes, so you can use both to lay out the volumes *and* the perspective on the lines, even when foreshortened.

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 No.8182

i like to start with the vertical and horizontal center lines to establish the direction the head is facing, and the curvature of the face

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 No.8188

start with a head shape

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 No.10955

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>>3604

Whichever method gives you better results.

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 No.10964

>not starting with a half asterisk like an spastic

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 No.10994

I work as a caricaturist at a theme park. If I have to choose I go egg shape but sometimes we don't even start with the outer shape and start from the facial features and build outward. REALLY fucking strange process but when you get used to it oddly enough it makes drawing normally again so much less work.

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 No.11002

>>10994

There's a book on caricature from one of the MAD magazine artists that's really good. It made me want to be a caricature artist myself but I don't think I have the balls

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 No.11004

Nothing of both. Especially when you're a beginner. Don't ever think in circles or egg-ish shapes. Build forms like spheres! The head is no circle. Even if you start to draw or paint the head, construct a sphere, not what you think, where the central line, ear line etc. could be.

For me the best method is the one I learned from Sinix. (Just search on Youtube) This way you draw or paint a bent piece of paper, wrapped around the head

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 No.11008

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>>11004

That's pretty good actually.

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 No.11132

>>11004

I can do the paper and place the diamond nose on it in most angles. The extreme perspective usually are a bit harder to deal with. What I want to know is how to move on from there; in the video he describes the process as drawing mask but it was brief. He does say I could continue with the level but I don't know what to do next

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