/philosophy/ - Philosophy

>>6713

It's ok not to understand a question; you don't have to accuse the asker of being arrogant.

In the objective/subjective dichotomy as a paradigm, you could objectively have meaning for yourself, objectively having a subjective meaning. Objective meaning would be counter to this, something that would be objective and beyond your self, a meaning more than just your own.

In order to find the difference of two abstracts, you must quantify them with definitions. Otherwise you can’t determine any sort of meaning. In order the provide the definitions, we have to look at the lexical structure of the english phrases.

Having objective meaning (verb, adjective, noun) Objective is describing the meaning in this context, and it is being possessed.

Objectively having meaning (adverb, verb, noun) Objectively is describing the verb having, so the subject is having meaning in an objective way.

So here’s the difference. Is the meaning itself objective? Then it is having objective meaning. Is there an objective way for something to have meaning? Then it is objectively having meaning.

Objective means universal.

We all know what univeral meanings are.

But can you universally have meaning? The fuck does that mean?

Aren't all feelings objective? What the fuck is a subjective feeling.

Regardless of how you look at it, feelings are one or the other. You can't have subjective and objective feelings at the same time.

>>6708

The former is an object to which meaning is attached. The latter is a meaning that has a specific objective or goal.

>/thread

>>7018

Wtf

Like Diogenes?

How about you Diogenes this dick in your stomach.

What about Stilpo?

Cause this dick's stillpoking your asshole!

I bet your wife loves Bolus.

Cause she's sucking on my Bolus!

What about Sextus? Ya like him?

You'll love the Sextus I'm about to give you.

>>>4806

>Post-modernity is time we live in currently similar to how 19th to 20th centuries are considered modernity. It is usually signified by late capitalism, globalism, rapid technological advances, convergence culture and so on.

>So saying that you "was seeing postmodernist works" means nothing as everything we do is part of the post-modern age.

>This is the Jordan Peterson school of not understanding what he is talking about.

>Post-modernism isn't a school of thought.

>A lot of the philosophers and professors that have been labeled as "post-modern philosophers" like Baudrillard, Derrida and Foucault hated the moniker because it means nothing.

>"I am a philosopher of the now times". What a pointless phrase.

>>6889

so he was an individualist?

>>6902

You can't just reject a philosophical position because it makes you feel uncomfortable or you think of it as nihillism. You have to show that the conclusions themselves are wrong.

>>6090

True though some blame lies in Spinoza and Voltaire

Karl Popper made it worse. My end goal is to oppose all those

>>6951

I think the most obvious problem is he follows the now widely discredited idea that all things that are eternally the case are necessary, and contingent things cannot be eternally the case. Just because the world is contingent it doesn't follow that the possibility of there being nothing at all has to be realized at some point in time.

I'm an advocate a no refutation from me

>>5512

Because there is no God keeping everything working in our perfectly designed universe.

>really implying The Greeks were secular in any sense of the word

simple refutation, they still believed in theocracy hierarchy.

>>5542

Can you read? Critias was allegedly an atheist and he was a greek, so whatever you're trying to say in bad English is false.

>>6972

>Empiricism has a claim over all other philosophy cause I say so

>>6920

True. Lesbians are quarrelsome with one another. Gay men make the biggest whores look like saints. And for the most women voted for this carp because they are impressions children at heart. Even Hegel said "those that dont learn from the past are doomed to repeat it" and what does liberal democracy, they reinforce those mistakes and make them stick, the glue that does the opposite of its intention, the kind that tears society at its seams.

>>6927

was not american republicanism supposed to give voting rights for white men only? i remember seing infographic on it

>>6940

yeah at first. then women whined. and POC whined.

fuck paying attention to whiners.

>>6952

next step will be kids whining

>>6928

Oh well

αβουλία

Hello friend,

sorry to hear about your lack of enthusiasm for life, it is a sad feeling as I personally have been there before. What sense/use or purpose does it serve to live in this world.. a world surrounded by 'norm' and generally UN-authenticity. To truly know the answer or AID to your question and confusion, you first must dive into the deepest and darkest.. once you are almost there you will 'know'. The last grasp of energy will awaken inside of you to flick that switch inside your mind. To be fortunate enough to be alive in comparison to many others around this world, having the ability to eat/sleep without the fear of losing your life at any given moment is the 1st blessing. Perhaps you should consider traveling? I know you mentioned that you don't feel the need/want to work - home - rest (kill time with senseless & numbing activities to pass time) but maybe for the 'cause' it is worth it.. Maybe work for a little bit, it doesn't have to be anything granduous or something which you have a personal interest for.. Get some cash flow happening, save it up and set yourself up for an unlikely destination, somewhere which is not over ruled by modern western influences. (maybe try south east asia or if daring, india/africa) The reason for this suggestion is because once you go there, you first hand see the 'suffering' and struggles everyday people go through in order to 'survive' (NOT LIVE - SURVIVE).. maybe seeing this site will be able to give you inspiration in order for you to pave your way? Once you return from your trip (or perhaps you might even consider staying there for a short moment to do some volunteer work) .... What you lack is purpose/drive.. something more and outside of yourself... your mental & spiritual state is at a low... you need a CHANGE, this change is from within... I'm not here to preach to you, nor to tell you to turn to some religious craze fanatic.. you need some re-alignment and taste the nectar of life.. 24, you're still young dear friend.. there is more awaiting for you, if you are willing to open yourself to opportunities. I sincerely wish you the best and may you one day be able to reflect back on these dark days and know that you are LIVING.. 11:11 - you'll never know who I am, i'll never know who you are... i am among the many people you supposedly walk past, the random stranger who you know nothing about.. yet we do have 1 thing in common.. we are human, aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>6953

:

If nothing would give you fun, what would you try to do? Any hobby, occupation? Limited budget:

I tried:

- computer games

- checkers

-reding books

-riding on the bike

-spaces and running

- putting the puzzle together

-cooking

-computer programming

I tried many things but everything is just forcing for me. Such a compulsion that I can't really get excited about any of these activities. I do not feel completely fascinated by anything. I can't even look at a film or a show, because I feel pressured to do it. When I forced myself to do it, I accelerated it 2x to finish it faster. With books the same. Computer games too. Music does not interest me either, everything that will go, I cant choose what I like and what I do not like. As for the difference between simply killing time with entertainment and real passion: you can simply ride a bike, and you can read about new trends, be interested in bicycle parts, assemble bikes from parts yourself, repair them, exchange parts and browse with fascination new catalog Specialized bicycle parts.

Another example: If a "fan of beer" drinks because he drinks, it is not a hobby. If, however, he knows everything about beer, not just drinking it, he can brew his own beer, he differentiates beer, he knows how they arise, what is the difference between beer foam A and beer B, it is a hobby in every way. Generally, people often say that they are interested in something, and in fact, just like with this beer, they just drink it and nothing else. Well, that's what I wanted to say in a nutshell to distinguish "quasi-hobbyists" from real hobbyists.

I feel the difference between a real, developing hobby (which even promotes social interactions and improving relationships between people), and a compulsive, addictive provision of instant, easy, unconditional pleasure (which you do not need to work) through various, intensified stimuli in excessive amoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

Stoicism is funny.

https://youtu.be/WoaktW-Lu38

>>6936

This unironically

Sloppily written. And the association of a bunch of arbitrary modern artifacts with Stoicism based on some vague surface resemblance apparent to the author, seems to be an indulgence of modern tastes with little meaningful to say about Stoic ideals.

>The affinities between modern art and archaic art are too obvious to need proof.

Come again mate?

Modern art is mostly random trash that’s been artificially inflated by cliquish investors as a financial scam. The whole category has no distinguishing aesthetic traits, by definition.

Seems like another presentist pleb trying to twist ancient culture to fit his own myopically modern worldview.

Ungern was right that all atheists/secular jews/the same damn thing, should be dealt with fire and brimstone.

>>6905

why?

>>6923

Because atheists have become a cult into themselves, a cult of self-aggrandizing fart sniffers, just like jews. They don't need to keep replicating. Fuck off we're full.

>>6686

terrible bait

Didn’t continue down the path of philosophy because that would have been retarded.

I went into education, with an interest in philosophical education. What I’ve seen from philosophical education conferences is that all the philosophers in attendance were desperately looking for an audience and an employer.

Become a teacher instead. You get a job that meaningfully contributes to society and pays the bills, and you get to philosophise on a regular basis with a captive audience.

>Wordpress

Not even with a 10 foot iron pole.

>>6909

Just read the god/man/thing you lesbian fuck

I would say that the problem of evil is not free will or determinism but a combination of both. I probably would be an Aquinian Theodicist, though a wiki for that does not exist. likely is not popular enough. Schopenhauer is/was sort of one in the secular world and its one place Kant and I break from philosophical unity.

Better than Augustinian theodicy that's for sure.

>>6552

Elaborate

>>6566

The OP is merely a pseudointellectual advocation of solipsism. The furthest one could get from subjective != objective (there is always a less pompous word that yet captures the same meaning of the statement in every possible meaningful way. qualiaty of thought > authority by obscurity) is not knowing whether there is an objective world - not knowledge grasped magically from the ether that there is no objective world.

>>6807

Is your argument that ontology contains all of metaphysics?

>>6816

That isn't my argument but would seem to be the case lest someone provide an example of otherwise.