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dad4cc No.6951

>The third way is taken from possibility and necessity, and runs thus. We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possible to be and not to be. But it is impossible for these always to exist, for that which is possible not to be at some time is not. Therefore, if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have beenimpossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence---which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary. But every necessary thing either has its necessity caused by another, or not. Now it is impossible to go on to infinity in necessary things which have their necessity caused by another, as has been already proved in regard to efficient causes. Therefore we cannot but postulate the existence of some being having of itself its own necessity, and not receiving it from another, but rather causing in others their necessity. This all men speak of as God.

Is there any refutation to the Saint Thomas Aquinas's third way?

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36541a No.6974

>>6951

I think the most obvious problem is he follows the now widely discredited idea that all things that are eternally the case are necessary, and contingent things cannot be eternally the case. Just because the world is contingent it doesn't follow that the possibility of there being nothing at all has to be realized at some point in time.

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641b97 No.6978

I'm an advocate a no refutation from me

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