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ca7c96  No.86 [Open thread]

Rules:

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2. Moderation will be kept to a minimum.

3. No spamming.

4. Spoiler NSFW images.

/philosophy/ resources: https://8kun.net/philosophy/resources.html

Regarding the missing board banners, this appears to be a site-wide issue. I will attempt a restore after this is fixed.

Regarding the associated boards list, December 2 was announced as the final date for board migration requests. Based off of Ron's current estimates, sometime between December 9 through 16 it should be clear if any of these boards (besides /lit/) will be returning. Replacing links to non-extant boards is something we need to philosophize on a bit.

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ca7c96  No.3643

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For beginners:

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7c7cff  No.7649 [Open thread]

Since I try to see many kinds of political views and try to see if they truly hold water, I had seen many white nationalist literature over the years.

I may just be me, but they all seem to categorize all white people (besides a few ethnicities of course) as being oppressed by the powers that be, and that the reasons why they themselves aren't going places in life is due to either be the fault of races who are more successful than them (jews and asians), or that the ways of wealth making corrupted the ones who have blood relations with them, and caused them to cast away all obligations of helping their fellow man.

Honestly, they act and whine just as much as the marxist socialists who would contemplate about trying to fuck with people only because of them having a work ethic, or complain about not receiving a higher wage but would not put in work to actually try to get it.

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e8b4e4  No.7646 [Open thread]

The way the dog was covering the little girl is so cute

WHY ASK

What is ordinary for the dog?

If not in its purpose what is its purpose?

THE WAY: INDICATES A QUESTION

HUMAN NATURE: YOU QUESTION WHAT IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY WHY? THE DESIRE TO BE IN OUR PURPOSE.

ASK: DESIRE TO BE IN OUR PURPOSE

WHAT IS ORDINARY?

THE DESIRE TO BE IN OUR PURPOSE

IS ORDINARY.

YOUR PURPOSE: BE ORDINARY.

WHY DO WE DESIRE OUR PURPOSE: WANT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING

FAMILY LOVE GOD.

WHY DO WE WANT FAMILY: FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD.

WE ALL WANT TO FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD AND THAT IS ORDINARY.

THAT IS THE POINT.

YOUR PURPOSE IS TO FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD.

THE WORD ALLOWS YOU TO FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD.

FOLLOW IT.

WE NEED TO BE IN ORDER.

CORE DESIRE: RETURN TO ORDINARY.

RETURN TO GOD.

GOD IS ORDINARY.

WE ARE IMAGES OF HIM.

THE DESIRE TO RETURN TO GOD

IS WHY WE WANT ORDINARY

SOMETHING TO RETURN TO BECUASE WE ARE A PART OF THE PUZZLE OF LIFE.

WE ARE A PART.

AND GOD IS LIFE.

WE MAKE-UP GOD AND GOD MAKES US.

COMPLETING HIMSELF.

FAMILY.

COMPLETING FAMILY IS HIS PURPOSE.

MAKE WHOLE.

HES MAKING HIMSELF WHOLE AGAIN.

HES BEEN BROKEN APART.

HES HEALING.

COME BACK TO HIM.

YOU ARE HIS LIGHT.

TO IDOLIZE ANYONE OTHER THAN GOD IS TO ACCPET SIN.

BETTER NO GOOD THEN EVIL.

EVERYONES A SINNER.

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553402  No.7645 [Open thread]

Fight the Jew. Learn history. Gain knowledge. Gain power.

Forum sector88.net

Main site sinistar7.org

Jews must pay

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170f23  No.7286 [Open thread][Last 50 Posts]

Lemme know what you think (Machiavelli was missing and would be God tier)

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170f23  No.7480

>>7386

Some were not available

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170f23  No.7483

>>7399

Godel disproved Russel, so I give him credit.

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170f23  No.7486

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Updated list Machiavelli missing again.

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748aaf  No.7636

>>7286

Kill yourself, retard.

Your life is a hopeless case.

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f043b9  No.7644

>>7286

kill yourself

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879119  No.4833 [Open thread]

where I am 100% totalitarian collectivism (communism):

banking (except for abolition of private funds and enactment of wealth redist, basically just end the fed)

infrastructure

buses, ships, trains, and planes, no fares, tax-funded

utilities (including internet, as well as water, heating, and power)

architecture

emergency services (more than just firefighters, all-purpose disaster response workers)

healthcare (including mental and dental)

law enforcement (with emphasis on privacy and individual rights of the citizens)

courts (all prosecutors and defenders public)

prisons (replaced with criminal rehab centers, criminal activity treated as result of mental problems, release only when assigned psych deems unlikely to commit offenses again)

education (at all levels, from preschool to tertiary ed, no private, home, or employer-run schools)

+

all incomes of every worker in a workplace required to listed in every other worker's paycheck, in order from most earned to least, so they may compare wages top those of co-workers. (ex. if one works in a McDonald's you will get the amount paid to every other worker in that specific McDonald's restaurant listed on your paycheck, but not those from any other restaurant in the chain. you won't get your CEO's check unless you work in the same building.)

maternity leave with equal-length paternity leave, and given to every new parent in homosexual or polygamous families.

permanent welfare should be given to those unable to work, and temporary welfare to those able to work, but unemployed.

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bc3a29  No.7519

>>7518

It hardly seems like an unnecessary question to me. Your saying what should be governed is what is fundamental. I am asking what distinguishes a fundamental thing from a non-fundamental thing.

> It was not a strict case of what should be done, but the premise was and is based on a stricter premise of answering the 'question' of food, air and water contextualized by the possibility of shit hitting the fan, in a shit can happen world.

So we might say those are things that a government would be in their right to exercise? You don't seem to want to say whether there are any limits or not.

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1061a2  No.7520

>>7519

I didn't say it should be governed to be by a government, but have claimed that whether something ought to be at all should first be asked.

Food, air and water are necessary before the question of government can even be asked; the implicit principle at play being that a perfect government can not be fathomed before the conditions for fathoming it are first met. This means a starved, suffocating, dying-of-thirst people cannot fathom a perfect government, and they cannot go about perfecting it -- surely they cannot manage to confront and reform a government in this state. If a government were to be a problem, could it easily take away the people's food, air and water? If yes, that is an issue that could have been foreseen and dealt with ahead of time, before it became an issue (when it was only a possibility).

Simply dealing with threats to the subsistence of life is first priority. The way a perfect government should begin to be fathomed is by first understanding what the world is without government. You will recognize a primitive world. Life got on without government. Then you must understand the first forms of government and why they arose -- tribes of creatures, or even colonies of microbes moving with the flock to bolster one another's chance at survival. You can disagree here if you'd like, I guess, but it requires you've survived long enough to do so. You could study the methods of survival that have taken place in the history of Earth and still ongoing -- this would inform your idea of a perfect government.

Models of government formed without a thorough fundamental knowledge base of and considerations for survival are highly prone to error.

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1c8978  No.7634

>>5321

They are not humans. Just ants with emergent collective consciousness in human flesh.

They need to be killed with fire, purged.

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1c8978  No.7635

>>4833

Kill yourself, bugman.

Justification of freedom of speech is the ability to get rid of every degenerate promoting communism.

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d57835  No.7643

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>>4833

Very interesting.

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4b63e0  No.7629 [Open thread]

Why is nietzcheanism considered as a form of socialism in the protocols of the elders of zion.

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ad2a4e  No.7642

>>7629

cause Nietzsche loved the jews, he talks about it a lot in his texts especially beyond good and evil where he talks about deporting various anti-Semites, good on him honestly

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32749a  No.6799 [Open thread]

What are the similarities between them? As far as I can tell they criticise what it means to think and how we form our thought processes in life based on our experiences and sensations but there has to be other connections or maybe i'm inferring incorrectly?

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374593  No.7630

>>7596

kritique means something else in german. He was not a critique of a concept called pure reason, he wrote about a concept called pure reason (among other things). Kant is an idealist meaning he thinks Ideas are prior to our experience of empirical reality. Hume was an empiricist meaning he thought our experience is prior to our ideas. IDK much about hume.

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374593  No.7631

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>>7630

in the last sentence I meant to say i dont know much about Locke, not hume.

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c280cd  No.7632

>>7631

thank you so much for this!!

I was reading CPR and this was everything I need to see to comprehend this.

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645622  No.7633

Cunt and Hehel are gay

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f8c72f  No.7641

J Locke n David Hume represent empirical line in continental philosophy. For kant - hume was particularly interesting. Hume had awoken kant as he says from his dogmatic sleep. To be precise Hume epistemological skepticism is one thing that inspired kant in his critic work. I wont get in depth because i don't have time but Kant historically represents philosophical synthesis of previous rationalism(descartes,spinoza,lebnitz) and empiricism (locke,hume,bacon). If u need more in depth response i will gladly add it later cheers!

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46d640  No.7639 [Open thread]

Why do the answers to the fundamental questions of being have to be so tightly sealed? This not dangerous knowledge, also neither bad nor good, just the purest kind of knowledge there is, like math.

Is the reason his writings are so obscure also the reason Hegel is widely ignored in analytical philosophy? Even when he provides a lot of answers analytical philosophy in the tradition of wittgenstein/kripke is not able to answer? Like the problem of naming?

Is the most important philosophical system ignored because anglos simply cannot force enough willpower to work it through? Tbh this sometimes felt like it was intentionally written to not be understood. I have spent weeks on this work an I have only been able to read to 1/3rd of it, yet I push on.

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d2b955  No.7638 [Open thread]

Anyone here writing any philosophy or know of any obscure philosophy being wrote that you'd like to share? It's always good to have an expression of ideas among peers please do share and be critical of what others are offering.

I personally am quite new to philosophy but have wrote a small writing on the philosophy of religion as it pertains to still finding God in an infinite regression if anyone is interested.

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620f0a  No.6990 [Open thread]

"Everyone is so easily offended these days, back in my day we weren't a bunch of snowflakes."

– person who comes from a generation of NPCs that was offended by gay people existing

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af334f  No.7617

>>7613

Imagining If there Was VIRUS affecting 0 . 2% of population ... Would You Stop it Before Got BIGGER ???

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d0c1db  No.7621

>>7617

Homosexuality isn't infectious.

>inb4 muh molestation

Provide proof that most gay people were molested as children.

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386142  No.7624

>>7613

>Poor reading comprehension

Retard. I didn't say people don't have children because fags exist. I pointed out that homos have a high disposable income and a highly salient consumer identity and that this affects society in a negative way.

>>7621

>inb4 muh molestation

Aristotle claimed in Nicomachean Ethics that some pederasty was natural and some was imprinted on children. He wasn't exactly anti-homo It just seemed blatantly obvious to the Greeks that this was the case. The correlation is definitely there, but it is questionable whether molestation was the cause or if the child being related to the molester, and therefore having many of the molesters genes, was the root cause.

<tinyboard flag alt></tinyboard>

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791b37  No.7625

>>7621

heres proof:

have a conversation with any gay person. gay people become gay for one of these reasons without failure.

>molestation or some sort of childhood abuse

>being surrounded by other gay people

>they have some sort of mental disorder, bipolar or some other thing

>they have consumed degenerate porn

>they have been brainwashed by a society that glorifies mental illness and homosexuality. happens to kids all the time, ive met so mny kids who thought they were gay but then changed their sexual identity back to straight, or though they were trans and turned back to their birth gender.

it is always either one of these things behind homosexualiy (or transgenderism, and some of these apply to pedophilia).

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000000  No.7628

>>6999

based trips

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f3be0f  No.7627 [Open thread]

Anyone interested in offering advice?? without being rude, or childish name calling/insults... Strong and confident in themselves and their beliefs that they can handle another viewpoint respectively & polite. Insecure people need not apply!

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a1a7d2  No.7556 [Open thread]

i m a 19 year old boy. i have read dostoevsky, Jack London, Maupassant and bunch of other good writers. I have a fairly good taste in music ( at least I think so). I am a NEET. I really want to be a singer and a writer. I,m broke, I can,t find a job, I don,t even have a penny. I can,t even tell my parents what I want because I,m afraid they won,t understand. Plus I,m super introverted, i don,t like seeing or meeting people. I don,t know what to do. Give me some advice for gods sake so, I won,t kill myself. I don,t wanna die!!!

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b8dc16  No.7558

>>7557

I'm not sure what you think an introvert is, but it's certainly not something that should prevent anyone from being a singer or writer. Socializing just takes more effort for introverts than it does for extroverts, it doesn't mean that effort can't be ultimately fulfilling.

>>7556

I'd just continue searching for a job. Even though that comes with its own set of anxieties, it alleviates others, and having an income gives you more power over your free time. It'll be easier to pursue your passions if you're in a better place mentally and being unemployed is generally not good for mental health. Also I'd recommend seeking therapy if that's a possibility, that'll most likely be more useful for setting goals and working towards them than asking for advice on anonymous imageboards like this.

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f9560f  No.7559

>>7558

An introvert is directed to their own self in their thoughts, actions and understandings. The performing arts and writing all require a deep, natural, practiced first hand experience of interaction with others. An introvert, being an introvert, does not have these things. Even if an introvert was to spend all day with others, they would not have a natural experience of it.

I suppose on that account I should correct myself: An introvert cannot write or compose except for other introverts.

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9eb881  No.7560

>>7557

Dostoevsky,Maupassant all trash ? really ? If you don't know them, then you don't have the right to give advices on philosophy.

You simply lack general culture

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3cae53  No.7579

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>>7556

I would suggest you look for a voluntary position where you do not have to speak to many people or at least give you skills. This will give structure to your day and will actually give you a sense that you are contributing something of worth. Something in:

>Administration (back office)

>Record keeping- some hospitals have volunteering opportunities and this is something I took

>Museums- exhibitions, archives

>Conservation

>Wildlife surveying

With record keeping, administration (third sector/public sector) and museums, you will have access to a range of stories which you can base events and characters on if you want to write stories. Obviously, be aware of confidentiality.

In your position, I would also seek help from an unemployment charity (in Britain some of these include: Springboard, Shaw Trust, Prince's Trust). Such charities will set in place a personal improvement plan and will offer assistance in any way to help your goals. Things like confidence, work experience and interview techniques. Look into programmes and initiatives offered by said charities.

Likewise go to your local Job Centre or equivalent and claim unemployment support. If you are in England, a word of warning the people from the DWP can be frustrating in their bureaucracy and inefficiency.

From this set a learning budget and use this money for courses. If you do not like people, there are plenty of learning providers offering online or correspondence courses. Some learning providers may offer free courses or there may be the option of financial help from either the government or charities to pay for them. If this facility is available to you, use it.

Job searching can be a frustrating experience and there are times where you may feel the weight of rejection. Persevere. Turn that into infoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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90e1e1  No.7626

yo i'm 19 and feel the same. i've already put some art out and have a little recognition but i do this since i was 14. things changed a lot, i'm doing some kind of classical ambient trance and reading all types of theory. go for mark fisher, nick land, baudrillard, guy debord, deleuze & guattari

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8d331c  No.4348 [Open thread]

what is a nation?

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8d331c  No.4349

>>4348

A miserable little pile of people.

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ddca14  No.5363

>>4349

Le kek

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52c705  No.7622

>>4348

A group of people who share common ancestry. /thread

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fbb535  No.7222 [Open thread]

Please Help.

I need help condensing and improving my grammar.

The Ego has now become ones own God in the Newest century. By the taking of one's own personal beliefs and the application of the greatest ideas in the existential mind of it's philosopher, they can put the entirety of all their beliefs and faiths into the idea that a Sovereign God does not exist.

By killing their loyalty to the ultimate idea of God, the faith of a Sovereign God, they all also claim that God is subjective at either - the start of creation ( evolution, co-evolution, race theory or Abrahamic creation and it's sub-types) or at the end of life ( judgement, and eternal life ).

This also means that they are putting ego as their own God. Ego, being the combination of one's soul, and body. It is essentially the face of ones spirit, but not the mind of the spirt. Just as our Face is the way for our body to communicate, the ego is the face of the spirit.

When, we put all our idealogies ( faith and her beliefs ) into the idea that everything is subjective then we see the decay of truth in almost all of reality. By the destruction of the realm of objectivity and entering the realm of Pride ( see the fall of lucifer ) , we find our virtues the first to fall ( the angels of morallity ).

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fbb535  No.7235

>>7232

Yeah I should... what is your specific reason?

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f566a5  No.7239

>>7235

I think it is the most straightforward way to expand your vocabulary but also your understanding of the english language.

Write down particular sentences you like and then try to dissect it. Get all the meaning out of it.

Shakespeare's ability to consistently condense so much meaning into such brief sentences is one of the things that makes him special.

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12fe45  No.7580

>>7222

Get inside your head while writing and for every sentence you write, ask the question "so what?" If you can't justify the sentence, remove it. It is a very crude method but one I find is useful when writing concisely.

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d1b4b2  No.7592

>>7232

Don't you mean Marlowe plays?

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bb448b  No.7620

>>7222

Try to remove all room for misinterpretation, define your words and concepts whenever you can

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