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ca7c96 No.86 [Open Thread]

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Regarding the missing board banners, this appears to be a site-wide issue. I will attempt a restore after this is fixed.

Regarding the associated boards list, December 2 was announced as the final date for board migration requests. Based off of Ron's current estimates, sometime between December 9 through 16 it should be clear if any of these boards (besides /lit/) will be returning. Replacing links to non-extant boards is something we need to philosophize on a bit.

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ca7c96 No.3643

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For beginners:

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b0cf4f No.8025 [Open Thread]

This philosopher from the 1950's predicted image boards and the Internet:

"In the heat of battle, your own ego quietly steps onto the stage. No longer is it truth meeting ignorance, it is mask confronting mask, each insisting 'I am right'. But the louder the masks shout, the less anyone truly hears.

"What began as a gift of clarity turns into a performance of pride. You wanted to offer light, but soon you were defending yourself, and so is the other. Thus the dance begins not a dance of wisdom, but of egos circling each other, terrified of being unmasked.

"The cost of this quarrel is not in words wasted, but in peace surrendered. You hand over your calm, your clarity, your joy, and in the end both look equally absurd!"

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"Truth can't be forced into unready soil.

"The kindest act may be to speak it once, and then let it be.

"For if their heart is not yet in season, no argument will make it ripen faster.

"People would rather cling to their rags, than be stripped of their certainty.

"We are not only afraid of being wrong, we are afraid of looking wrong. Afraid of appearing foolish, of being laughed at, of being seen as less clever than we hoped.

"Yet notice this curious twist. Resistance is itself a sign that the seed has touched fertile ground. If it had not struck the ego, it would pass by unnoticed. The very discomfort proves [truth's] potency."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRojzE60XfY

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eaf669 No.8009 [Open Thread]

Why so little appreciation for at worst the third greatest German philosopher? Like a Kant who could effectively communicate, a Nietzsche with someothing to teach ya - what isn't to like?

And nobody but music post-grads and history of philosophy guys pays him any attention. Hegel, Schlegel, even Nagel get more attention. This guy pushed his landlady down a flight of stairs, and wrote a serious article about ghosts.Next time you're hungry for wisdom, consider picking up The World as Will and Representation Volume 1 - but for the love of the will and it's direct expression, music, pick a more recent translation. Oh, and read Kant first or you won't get much out of it.

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5a763b No.8014

based

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5a763b No.8015

perhaps they're too busy burning through their miserable existences lest they'd have to face their impermanence head-on instead of actually savouring being

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08fbbb No.7690 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

This thread is for Philosophy about esoteric physics. Debunking climate science, and other fun stuff

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08fbbb No.8029

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e68a2e No.7992 [Open Thread]

Den

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e4f30a No.7661 [Open Thread]

Philographics for those

Refer

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e4f30a No.7678

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e4f30a No.7679

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e4f30a No.7680

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d2c802 No.7683

>>7676

>Refer

They mixed up idealism with realism.

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e2c3ee No.7921

Thanks for the dump!

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3e1321 No.7879 [Open Thread]

What does philosophy think of these guys?

Before 1997, there were dominance hierarchies and cliques as always (jocks, nerds, geeks etc). Non-partnered people self-described as "single".

In 1997, Alana invented the self-victimizing term "incel" and ran a forum for 3 years before moving on. This was the first "incel" community.

- Incel is short for "involuntary celibate"

- It's "involuntary" so the reasons are extrinsic

- It's a definition and a description of a perceived state

It's 2025 today

- There are many different "incel" forums

- "Incels" believe in a concept of "inceldom"

- "Incels" critique (critical theory) the world news and history

- "Incels" use "incel" to understand the world better

So there are two meanings to the word now:

- Alana's definition, "everyone who has been single for a while is an incel"

- Practical definition, "incels" are people who use the term "incel" to analyse and understand the world through a perceived state of involuntary celibacy

The second definition makes the most sense to adopt because Alana's definition is too broad and includes people who are unaware or either just do not self-identify with the idea/concept. Adopting Alana's definition and using it makes some one an "incel".

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2eebbd No.7918

>>7879

>"Incels" critique (critical theory)

I am so glad someone else noticed that.

I don't know about any specific philosophers but I do think it's interesting how intersectionalists seem to disdain incels despite both being crit theory.

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d85ca0 No.5817 [Open Thread]

Is it ok to kill people?

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824c40 No.7681

>>5817

Not only is it okay, it's the only good thing you can do.

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ebdf11 No.7682

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e6dcbe No.7687

Of course. If they raped your girlfriend. Or if they request it and that won't cause any other additional people to also request it as a result (other then in a dystopia or war where the only reason that other people will request is because he gave them the idea. And not because that specific persons death requires the suicide of his girlfriend.)

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e6dcbe No.7688

>>5857

I don't feel like giving you $100 that I took from your house. So therefore why should you take $100 from me when I don't feel like it?

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000000 No.7916

If you are ok with the consequences and can your morality can justify that actions, I think its ok. If you arent dumb you may reach the conclusion thats in like 90% kill someone is not ok.

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64a3e1 No.6762 [Open Thread]

Not as a man but as a philosopher, because there's obviously a glaring downside to his nature.

>b-b-b-b-b-but b-b-b-b-bombs

We all know what he did and it is besides the point of this thread so let's keep the criticisms original.

as far as my flag, I'm not an orthodox existentialist but it was the closest thing to my philosophy.

Lay it on me

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c27e1a No.6861

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a97908 No.7612

>>6762

>b-b-b-b-b-but b-b-b-b-bombs

I think you know most anon's here are going to like Uncle Ted. I liked his explanation of the power process and how technology frustrates it. However, I think reasonably intelligent people are still going to be able to go through the power process for at least a few more decades. For the other 80% of people who are now unable to go through this process, I think Ted proposed solution will really start to resonate with them over the coming decades (although they will mostly reach this conclusion independently of Uncle Ted). His proposed solution being, of course, bombs.

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8b986f No.7614

>>6770

From a practical standpoint:

>Particularly weak targeting, like a lot of mail bombing campaigns. It wouldn't be sustainable to shoot higher than his most prestigious targets, a timber lobbyist and an ad exec, since some of his bombs already went off in the face of random secretaries and students. Not exactly a competent enemy of the landrapers.

>Demanding his manifesto be published

>Overstylization of his writing made it recognizable

>Not being a better brother

>Simping

From literary and ideological standpoints:

>Constantly relying on unprovable conjectures and appeals to emotion

>Ultimately his choice of mail bombs contributed to a heightened security climate where opening and tampering with first-class mail is more easily justified by government bodies, thus indirectly eroding the general liberty of all and compelling more people to communicate with more efficient technological media

>Tried to hang himself during his trial rather than plead insanity

>His stinky doodoo cabin was auctioned off on the internet

>Ultimately made the fbi more profitable

>Overstylization, making his writing kind of drab

>Bad poetry

>the above in service of simping

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f8a2d7 No.7689

He fucking sucks as a philosopher and it is not taken seriously even within circles which are sympathetic towards his hostility against modernity, technology etc. His criticisms are surface level and asinine. I guess something that is cool is that he had a pretty iconic opening line in his manifesto which made me shiver when i was 15 but i grew up.

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a8fc1d No.7685 [Open Thread]

Attention! ¡Atención! 注意! ध्यान!! Внимание Atenção! Achtung! 注意! 주의! Attenzione! Let op! Dikkat! Uwaga! Προσοχή! Pozor Observera! ระวัง!

METAmeta philosophy:

[METAXNOSIS] - [the neverending ongoing process of renewing and reinventing the "god(0)-self(1)-reality(3-6-9)" relationship for the purpose of gaining knowledge, experience and spiritual evolution and also just for fun.]

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The definition of "metameta" stems from a logical extension of the concept of "meta." If "meta" refers to reflection on a higher level of abstraction concerning a system, structure, or narrative, then "metameta" signifies reflection on the reflection itself—a yet higher level that pertains to meta-structures or meta-narratives.

Definition of "metameta":

Metameta refers to a level of abstraction that analyzes or describes the structure, properties, or narratives of the meta-level. It is second-order reflection about how meta-concepts or meta-narratives are created or used.

Example in art and philosophy:

When we create a meta-narrative (a narrative about a narrative) and within it arises another meta-narrative, we encounter a hierarchy of abstraction. Each subsequent level relates to the one below and can lead to potentially infinite analysis of the analysis itself.

What happens in this situation?

Increased complexity – With each subsequent level, a more intricate system emerges, requiring new tools for interpretation and underPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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a8fc1d No.7686

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It is worth noting that such systems often appear in postmodern philosophy, where reflection on narratives and knowledge structures becomes a key element of analysis. Postmodernism, with its skepticism towards grand narratives, emphasis on diversity, irony, and deconstruction, brought an intense awareness of the multilayered nature of meanings and the contexts in which they operate. However, the critical approach of postmodernism often led to a sense of fragmentation and the loss of shared meaning, opening the space for new paradigms like metamodernism.

Transition to Metamodernism:

Metamodernism, which can be seen as a response to or evolution of postmodernism, reintroduces sincerity, hope, and a yearning for meaning, yet in a way that acknowledges the complexity and contradictions of the postmodern world. It operates as a balance between opposing values—a "both/and" perspective—where irony and sincerity, chaos and order, individualism and collectivity coexist in dynamic tension.

Key characteristics of metamodernism in contrast to postmodernism:

Oscillation: Metamodernism embraces the tension between opposites, such as progress and nostalgia, irony and sincerity, detachment and engagement. It does not seek to resolve these tensions but allows them to inspire and shape creative and philosophical endeavors.

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6b2215 No.7653 [Open Thread]

Heidegger's urhandlung des daseins is the same like activating the default mode network aka daydream mode. Your thoughts?

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879119 No.4833 [Open Thread]

where I am 100% totalitarian collectivism (communism):

banking (except for abolition of private funds and enactment of wealth redist, basically just end the fed)

infrastructure

buses, ships, trains, and planes, no fares, tax-funded

utilities (including internet, as well as water, heating, and power)

architecture

emergency services (more than just firefighters, all-purpose disaster response workers)

healthcare (including mental and dental)

law enforcement (with emphasis on privacy and individual rights of the citizens)

courts (all prosecutors and defenders public)

prisons (replaced with criminal rehab centers, criminal activity treated as result of mental problems, release only when assigned psych deems unlikely to commit offenses again)

education (at all levels, from preschool to tertiary ed, no private, home, or employer-run schools)

+

all incomes of every worker in a workplace required to listed in every other worker's paycheck, in order from most earned to least, so they may compare wages top those of co-workers. (ex. if one works in a McDonald's you will get the amount paid to every other worker in that specific McDonald's restaurant listed on your paycheck, but not those from any other restaurant in the chain. you won't get your CEO's check unless you work in the same building.)

maternity leave with equal-length paternity leave, and given to every new parent in homosexual or polygamous families.

permanent welfare should be given to those unable to work, and temporary welfare to those able to work, but unemployed.

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1061a2 No.7520

>>7519

I didn't say it should be governed to be by a government, but have claimed that whether something ought to be at all should first be asked.

Food, air and water are necessary before the question of government can even be asked; the implicit principle at play being that a perfect government can not be fathomed before the conditions for fathoming it are first met. This means a starved, suffocating, dying-of-thirst people cannot fathom a perfect government, and they cannot go about perfecting it -- surely they cannot manage to confront and reform a government in this state. If a government were to be a problem, could it easily take away the people's food, air and water? If yes, that is an issue that could have been foreseen and dealt with ahead of time, before it became an issue (when it was only a possibility).

Simply dealing with threats to the subsistence of life is first priority. The way a perfect government should begin to be fathomed is by first understanding what the world is without government. You will recognize a primitive world. Life got on without government. Then you must understand the first forms of government and why they arose -- tribes of creatures, or even colonies of microbes moving with the flock to bolster one another's chance at survival. You can disagree here if you'd like, I guess, but it requires you've survived long enough to do so. You could study the methods of survival that have taken place in the history of Earth and still ongoing -- this would inform your idea of a perfect government.

Models of government formed without a thorough fundamental knowledge base of and considerations for survival are highly prone to error.

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1c8978 No.7634

>>5321

They are not humans. Just ants with emergent collective consciousness in human flesh.

They need to be killed with fire, purged.

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1c8978 No.7635

>>4833

Kill yourself, bugman.

Justification of freedom of speech is the ability to get rid of every degenerate promoting communism.

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d57835 No.7643

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>>4833

Very interesting.

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7c7cff No.7649 [Open Thread]

Since I try to see many kinds of political views and try to see if they truly hold water, I had seen many white nationalist literature over the years.

I may just be me, but they all seem to categorize all white people (besides a few ethnicities of course) as being oppressed by the powers that be, and that the reasons why they themselves aren't going places in life is due to either be the fault of races who are more successful than them (jews and asians), or that the ways of wealth making corrupted the ones who have blood relations with them, and caused them to cast away all obligations of helping their fellow man.

Honestly, they act and whine just as much as the marxist socialists who would contemplate about trying to fuck with people only because of them having a work ethic, or complain about not receiving a higher wage but would not put in work to actually try to get it.

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e8b4e4 No.7646 [Open Thread]

The way the dog was covering the little girl is so cute

WHY ASK

What is ordinary for the dog?

If not in its purpose what is its purpose?

THE WAY: INDICATES A QUESTION

HUMAN NATURE: YOU QUESTION WHAT IS OUT OF THE ORDINARY WHY? THE DESIRE TO BE IN OUR PURPOSE.

ASK: DESIRE TO BE IN OUR PURPOSE

WHAT IS ORDINARY?

THE DESIRE TO BE IN OUR PURPOSE

IS ORDINARY.

YOUR PURPOSE: BE ORDINARY.

WHY DO WE DESIRE OUR PURPOSE: WANT TO BE A PART OF SOMETHING

FAMILY LOVE GOD.

WHY DO WE WANT FAMILY: FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD.

WE ALL WANT TO FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD AND THAT IS ORDINARY.

THAT IS THE POINT.

YOUR PURPOSE IS TO FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD.

THE WORD ALLOWS YOU TO FEEL THE LOVE OF GOD.

FOLLOW IT.

WE NEED TO BE IN ORDER.

CORE DESIRE: RETURN TO ORDINARY.

RETURN TO GOD.

GOD IS ORDINARY.

WE ARE IMAGES OF HIM.

THE DESIRE TO RETURN TO GOD

IS WHY WE WANT ORDINARY

SOMETHING TO RETURN TO BECUASE WE ARE A PART OF THE PUZZLE OF LIFE.

WE ARE A PART.

AND GOD IS LIFE.

WE MAKE-UP GOD AND GOD MAKES US.

COMPLETING HIMSELF.

FAMILY.

COMPLETING FAMILY IS HIS PURPOSE.

MAKE WHOLE.

HES MAKING HIMSELF WHOLE AGAIN.

HES BEEN BROKEN APART.

HES HEALING.

COME BACK TO HIM.

YOU ARE HIS LIGHT.

TO IDOLIZE ANYONE OTHER THAN GOD IS TO ACCPET SIN.

BETTER NO GOOD THEN EVIL.

EVERYONES A SINNER.

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553402 No.7645 [Open Thread]

Fight the Jew. Learn history. Gain knowledge. Gain power.

Forum sector88.net

Main site sinistar7.org

Jews must pay

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