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File: 07ec7fa2bd1ee2a⋯.jpg (169.94 KB,753x800,753:800,maxstirn.jpg)

b81a03 No.6466 [Open thread]

Hello anons, fellow seeker of Life here.

It seems to me like we live in a paradoxical world, in which we have no say over the creation of our existence, no say over the determination of the biological factors which shape our minds, and no proper say over the finding of meaning and fulfilment. I've dabbled with existentialism, structuralism, spiritualism, rationalism, and many of the forms they take. I know there is much I don't understand, and much more I haven't looked at or pondered. I have come to a few conclusions about life, beauty, and truth, but I have the recurring feeling like many of those conclusions, much of the wisdom I hold is self-referential and circular. I believe that the fundamental "graph of life" is an upward oscillation of "good", and not an exponentiality though it may look like that from very close. I know that I wish to, atleast and like everyone else, "feel" free, but I also know that "feeling free" is not the same as "being free". I wish to be free and know it as best I can, not feel free and believe it to be real.

In short, I want to become what I am, and I wish for that to be divine. I know hybris is dangerous, but I also know that calling out hybris is not enough to guard you from it. I know I don't believe in determinism, but I believe that determinism is real if it is believed.

I wish, or believe to wish to satisfy my ego or "will to power", to ultimately ascend into apotheosis. Not immediately, but eventually (whenever that eventuality arises). Why do I wish to become one god, one among many? Because I believe it to be my birthright to know what "all this stuff" is about. I don't believe in the inherent cruelty of Life, because I know the opposite exists, namely the good, the true, and the beautiful.

I know I have to play the game to "win", and I have sort of a grasp on how to play it, namely "playing it true", but I don't know which game really to play, because I think most of the games one is presented with are more or less distractions, many of which, I feel like, were created by those who are playing "the real game".

Having recognized that there is "the real game", I call it Life proper, where do I find the table of players to play it with? In geopolitics? In my own personal relations? In Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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f1e99e No.6467

I have no idea what you're saying but I'm going to hijack the thread to call out the anon on this board who told me to listen to "Great Idea of Philosophy" by Prof. Daniel N. Robinson.

I skipped to the last audio track and he's a theist. His last few sentences are moronic. What we need is a philosopher who is an atheist to record a 60 track CD for profit to counter this over hyped romantic who thinks humanity deserves pain, and who who hates skepticism.

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2acbaa No.6468

Every time I come to this board, every few weeks or so, I come expecting that there will be no new threads or posts. Despite how dead it is, that still often isn't the case. But I still hold hopes for the future.

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ec64df No.6469

File: ea82613b68c51c9⋯.jpg (16.96 KB,625x357,625:357,DiU3rFoWsAAGElM.jpg)

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>>6468

We're all gonna have to go to Reddit or Instagram soon. Wherever we go we have to outrun the boomers menace or we will lose IQ without convincing them of anything, which means Facebook and now Twitter (hello Donald) are no gos.

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be792c No.6518

Many of that which you state is paradoxical and a contradiction to other words... you can not prove true nihilism/whateverthefuckyoubelieve

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511b0f No.6584

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File: 3a7b09b3daaf031⋯.jpg (127.34 KB,504x470,252:235,3a7.jpg)

b22ffa No.6156 [Open thread]

Are atheism and nihilism mutually inclusive?

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b1df00 No.6539

>>6537

By Darwinian, I meant the sole purpose of life is to pass on your genes by producing offspring.

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aab72f No.6547

>>6156

No. Read Stirner.

t. egoist anarchist

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413cde No.6554

>>6539

Yes, and you need wealth and reputation to help your children pass their genes in the future by using them.

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3b86fd No.6559

>>6547

>stirnerism as anything but consistent nihilism

Lol

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4ae3cb No.6583

File: 23ac1ed64561bed⋯.jpg (151.96 KB,800x500,8:5,1j7qyk.jpg)

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>>6156

People parse the definitions.

Every thought & thing in this mortal world is relative to subjective interpretation.

I define atheism as "disbelief that a deity created & controls this mortal world and all the creatures within it". I define nihilism as "belief in conscious annihilation upon mortal death -- no more thinking or feeling or awareness ever again". So, you can be an atheist without being a nihilist. As an atheist you can believe in eternal consciousness; you can believe that all physical creatures are actually the product of their perfect spiritual selves.

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File: a05b485a53b80db⋯.png (512.23 KB,1920x1600,6:5,45XKX7i.png)

101f27 No.6394 [Open thread]

Like liberals Sam is for taxation on the rich, he just opposes pitically correct insanity and values telling the truth over anything else:

https://samharris.org/how-to-lose-readers-without-even-trying/

Posting this because morons from the left and right like to slander him without understanding him. The biggest offender is existential comics guy who does the philosophy comic, and he made about 4 comics on Sam. (Pic related.) I agree with Marxists on certain things, but the moment they lie to me they lose me, and they really love lying much more than centrist liberals like Sam Harris. I can't remember Sam Harris ever lying a out an opponent, but they always lie about him and ad-hom him too.

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684905 No.6550

>>6396

>implying the workers didn't build that with their labour

Lumpenprole detected

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684905 No.6551

>>6408

>He has got a degree so I am not allowed to question him though

>appeal to authority

>defeatism

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1b9c71 No.6560

>>6416

Evolution is a self-defeating nonsensical Jewish concept

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40b4a8 No.6569

>>6560

faggot

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d8d443 No.6571

File: fc39170c73a2bdd⋯.jpg (82.57 KB,657x499,657:499,2gdpzt.jpg)

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File: 48f1195cdc449c3⋯.png (7.98 MB,4152x3060,346:255,9562227593.png)

72d29f No.6320 [Open thread]

I want your honest opinions on this. what do you think about it? what would you do to improve it? I'm looking for some really serious deep philosophical critical thinking discussion on this. I love the good conversations. lets go for it then.

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/48f1195cdc449c3f5450e570769408f43af3566f4e378813694a7a6aa0b7a07d.png

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d9565f No.6463

File: c58cbe4dc4b42fa⋯.jpg (3.35 MB,5007x3060,1669:1020,disregard answers accuire ….jpg)

>>6454

>ignores all constructive criticism from the thread

>makes a new one with almost the same false information.

>>what would you do to improve it?

>Try making it intelligible to people who use means of communication other than greentext stories and memes.

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d9565f No.6470

>>>/pol/11638728

>>>/pol/11638732

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d9565f No.6471

>>6454

Anon, you're amazing paranoid, at least argue against the points made against your pictures, you're making everyone who understands the secret Saturn worship look bad, like me.

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d52af3 No.6500

>>6320

It is an incoherent mishmash of ideas with no through line but, rather, several arguments with no cohesive holistic argument.

>Trying to tie politics into religion should be it's own argument.

>Trying to tie politics into race should be it's own argument.

>Trying to tie religion into internet culture should be it's own argument.

>Symbology doesn't tie into any of previously mentioned topics.

>Neither does trying to tie gnosticism together with internet culture.

Although I must say, as a collage, it really is quite representative of out times, no?

Trying to find cohesive spirituality and meaning in a vapid, meaningless and oversaturated culture.

But there's already a cure for that, atleast for a start , pry your fat ass away from the computer and take a walk.

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dd92f1 No.6525

Race exists and globalists do, but religion is bullshit.

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73d5f7 No.6442 [Open thread]

Any advices in life that was useful to you or that you still remember today? Would you share it in this thread, please ? Thank you

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32e92f No.6460

>>6449

Sam Harris locked his ass in the Vancouver debate

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faeeca No.6482

If you want to do something, you do it! - dad

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01df60 No.6512

Imagine a group of people jogging together. It is not a straight line but a cluster of joggers. There is a leader and the leader does exercises while jogging and the other joggers follow the leader.

The leader does every exercise for 10 seconds. The person that is last can not see the leader. The person who is last has to see what the person in front of them is doing to know which exercise is next. Same goes for the person in front of that person and so on...

When the leader starts a new exercise the person who is last has just begun the last exercise but they will still do it for the same amount of time, the new exercise still needs to reach them, which will be 10 seconds.

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01df60 No.6519

Not really a citation but if you analyze is you will get it

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5a6bf3 No.6521

>>6512

Ah, yes I can see the moral now. In a pitiless, pointless cosmos, what's the point of jogging when you could be fucking? You can't get left behind if you're coupled to the group's toot-train, what an eye opening and brilliant parable.

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55371a No.5165 [Open thread]

自分らしさってなんだ?

What does it mean to be yourself?

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605e95 No.5406

>>5401

>Money traditionally acquires value because all citizens require it to pay the government.

Anarchist believes government propaganda. Wew lad.

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/shelling-out/

>>5401

>I meant Bitcoin

AND you're on about the labour theory of value. Please tell me you're a troll/shill and not genuinely that dumb.

>>5402

>I don't remember how it works

That's okay, it was just some clay-footed authority speaking ex cathedra.

Read the links.

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e61306 No.5407

>>5406

>AND you're on about the labour theory of value

What the fuck do you mean? Did you misunderstand what I mean by "Bitcoins are numbers" or something?

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605e95 No.5408

>>5407

It's called proof of work not proof of value, which is good, as value is not provable. If it was we wouldn't have to use money to measure it. Bitcoin? Pff, Sisyphus dollar. As if all the worthless altcoins weren't also 'backed' by complex math.

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8fa452 No.5442

>>5165

Mandom

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72d0aa No.6514

It may not be subjective.

You also may not ever truly be yourself.

Understanding the biological body you reside in is not you is a start.

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File: 9ac57a0ec71fcad⋯.jpeg (75.42 KB,900x750,6:5,heidegger.jpeg)

42e595 No.6509 [Open thread]

What's the fucking difference between Being and Entity

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ab27e5 No.6511

Being is specific, entity is general.

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File: 0d6bf4bc287cd32⋯.jpg (64.4 KB,638x1024,319:512,1531850738844.jpg)

051236 No.6501 [Open thread]

Could somebody explain burden of proof to me? Who does it fall on? Why?

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c32fe0 No.6502

Who ever makes the claim first has to defend it, it's fairly simple. It falls on the person who starts it because he must uphold that he is correct, in response to being told he isn't.

Of course this is just a tool or possibility in an argument. Proof of burden can fall onto the person denying the claim by continuing to prove evidence to the contrary, there is nothing that defines proof of burden as being a rule.

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be050c No.6503

It would be very disruptive to any field of inquiry and to society if people could make wild claims without accountability. Imagine being accused of murder, there would have to be an investigation not because of any evidence that you were guilty but simply because the accusation.

If the burden of proof lay upon the defendant then any claim would be have to be assumed as valid until it was proven otherwise.

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0ce690 No.6504

>>6502

>>6503

But what if, for example, I claim something first, but it's a negative claim.

For example:

People can't think of perfect things in their heads (a perfectly round circle/sphere, for example)

Since it's a negative claim, wouldn't it be harder to prove than the reverse (positive claim of the same statement)?

Thanks for being patient with my autism, I'm just starting the presocratics

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c32fe0 No.6505

>>6504

>Since it's a negative claim, wouldn't it be harder to prove than the reverse (positive claim of the same statement)?

Define positive.

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c9a712 No.6506

>>6505

>People CAN'T think of perfect things in their heads (a perfectly round circle/sphere, for example)

Negative claim

>People CAN think of perfect things in their heads (a perfectly round circle/sphere, for example)

Positive claim

I hope this clears it up. Wouldn't the negative be harder to prove?

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7430b5 No.6434 [Open thread]

Jean Baudrillard was a French sociologist, philosopher, cultural theorist, political commentator, and photographer. He is best known for his analyses of media, contemporary culture, and technological communication, as well as his formulation of concepts such as simulation and hyperreality. He wrote about diverse subjects, including consumerism, gender relations, economics, social history, art, Western foreign policy, and popular culture. Among his best known works are Simulacra and Simulation (1981), America (1986), and The Gulf War Did Not Take Place (1991). His work is frequently associated with postmodernism and specifically post-structuralism.

Dude was pretty based. Wasn't afraid to name the jew.

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31092e No.6476

>>6447

>>6475

>I see I was almost forced to admit the inadequacies of my argument but you named the jew so back to /pol/ with you.

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9f3120 No.6481

>>6476

>>6474

>>6472

Ethno anarchism gang assemble.

>>6475

>>6473

>>6447

Shut up and die.

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4c5c79 No.6483

File: 46bf41a32e2bef4⋯.jpg (54.69 KB,904x531,904:531,69.jpg)

>>6481

>Ethno anarchism

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9f3120 No.6484

>>6483

Shine

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ae31c3 No.6498

>>6434

>commie

>but he uses le kikes meme xD

I'm unimpressed.

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File: 3ef7e6c6c4bccaa⋯.jpg (31.3 KB,480x480,1:1,DjCPUv9XcAEsvzU.jpg)

1f1b4a No.6479 [Open thread]

This video destroys the basis of Christian morality for good. It proves you will be more moral if you leave the bible behind.

https://youtu.be/X05Wn1ZAlfE

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b6b3f8 No.6480

>That photo

>Linking RedditMatter2525

Meh. 4/10. Try harder next time.

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3cb0b4 No.918 [Open thread]

What can philosophy teach me other than that I'll never know anything?
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3cb0b4 No.1853

>>930

No, if you want to be cynical then it teaches you that there is nothing wrong with eating dog food, sleeping under a bridge and urinating on dickheads.

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aa6628 No.5678

IT CAN TEACH YOU TOO BUMP

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0d7aab No.5680

>>5678

is bumping a thread that was approaching death a moral action?

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aa6628 No.5681

>>5680

Impressive

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18b08c No.6478

>>918

It'll show you how you know that you can know nothing. Knowing of all form will be reduced to arbitrary differentiations of consciousness, simultaneously integrating them as affectively harmonic modalities. You will learn precisely what you are not, and in turn realize you are the nothing that is everything. Presently, eternally.

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File: 6a7a4dfdfe5952b⋯.png (130.29 KB,1200x1932,100:161,Infinite_regress_en.svg.png)

005fc6 No.6283 [Open thread]

Hey board. What's your stance on the problem of epistemic regress, and where do you all fall on Agrippa's Trilemma?

Foundationalism, coherentism, or infinitism?

I'm personally an infinitist, although I also accept there may be a point of justification that is impossible to express and articulate and so justification itself may be a failed project. For most of our reasoning, we base our thought off of psychological maxims that act as 'just good enough' foundations which allow us do the necessary legwork to pursue our ends.

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f24cb1 No.6431

Our beliefs are ultimately supported by foundational axioms. Agrippa's Trilemma is only true insofar as it is impossible to explain why an axiom is true. Infinitism is only true in this inability. Coherentism is retarded in assuming inferences are more foundational if they are grouped together, which does nothing to explain away the epistemological vacuum. Foundationalism is true if and only if we accept the existence of the truth of axioms that, just because unexplainable, could still exist. I hold that either the truth of axioms exist, or there simply is no such thing as knowledge. But the very possibility that the former is true is enough reason to pursue it. Infinitism is also retarded and might as well just be an admission that there is no knowledge either.

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b43ba4 No.6458

Infinitist claims may be epistemically justified by unconditional probabilistic regress, so no foundation needs to be assumed.

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File: 8c8e4102450dafb⋯.gif (1.98 MB,360x240,3:2,1523563103389.gif)

641f2b No.6452 [Open thread]

Is masturbation rape?

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530581 No.6457

>>6452

Only when women do it.

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48e0c1 No.3260 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Could someone please disprove solipsism?

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3e2505 No.6250

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e0ef6f No.6253

>>3260

No. The entire multiverse is one large interconnected system. So it's not so much that "I am the multiverse" as much as "the idea of a separate individual was factually incorrect to begin with and a bad assumption".

Next.

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ffbac4 No.6427

>>6253

>factually incorrect

Calling something "factual" doesn't make it "factual," you fucking idiot.

>Next.

You haven't said anything meaningful enough to warrant the arrogance necessary for the full stop at the end of a non-sentence. Kill yourself.

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b1c10a No.6429

1. If solipsism were true, you wouldn't be subject to the world.

2. You are subject to the world.

3. Therefore, solipsism is false.

You're welcome. Now the absurdist idiot can come along and show us how validity doesn't real. Any honest contention should spend equal effort discerning how this is sound as not.

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74db81 No.6451

>>6429

>You are subject to the world.

How so?

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3a72af No.6436 [Open thread]

Are ideas subject to convergent evolution?

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