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28da39 No.7619 [Open thread]

I am glad you posted. Watch this video and ask yourself, "What does Alpha and Omega mean to myself?." The short video is flush with items to argue about, but it does represent one thing

for SURE>

The infinity for each of the viewers is different.

I really enjoyed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6fcK_fRYaI

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6e4403 No.5998 [Open thread]

Excuses for browsing /philosophy/ and not looking like pic related go in here.

“No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable.”

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42b646 No.7217

>>5998

fuck physicality

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dc3290 No.7224

>>7217

>fuck physicality

Why have you not offed yourself then?

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42b646 No.7226

>>7224

i want to get happiness

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10134d No.7241

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e55034 No.7618

>>5998

I like being a twink

>>7212

>Epicurus

Where do I get started with him?

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64a3e1 No.6762 [Open thread]

Not as a man but as a philosopher, because there's obviously a glaring downside to his nature.

>b-b-b-b-b-but b-b-b-b-bombs

We all know what he did and it is besides the point of this thread so let's keep the criticisms original.

as far as my flag, I'm not an orthodox existentialist but it was the closest thing to my philosophy.

Lay it on me

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698b45 No.6842

>obviously a glaring downside to his nature

so we need to add a consumerist/cosmopilitan flag here?

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c27e1a No.6861

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14e895 No.7036

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a97908 No.7612

>>6762

>b-b-b-b-b-but b-b-b-b-bombs

I think you know most anon's here are going to like Uncle Ted. I liked his explanation of the power process and how technology frustrates it. However, I think reasonably intelligent people are still going to be able to go through the power process for at least a few more decades. For the other 80% of people who are now unable to go through this process, I think Ted proposed solution will really start to resonate with them over the coming decades (although they will mostly reach this conclusion independently of Uncle Ted). His proposed solution being, of course, bombs.

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8b986f No.7614

>>6770

From a practical standpoint:

>Particularly weak targeting, like a lot of mail bombing campaigns. It wouldn't be sustainable to shoot higher than his most prestigious targets, a timber lobbyist and an ad exec, since some of his bombs already went off in the face of random secretaries and students. Not exactly a competent enemy of the landrapers.

>Demanding his manifesto be published

>Overstylization of his writing made it recognizable

>Not being a better brother

>Simping

From literary and ideological standpoints:

>Constantly relying on unprovable conjectures and appeals to emotion

>Ultimately his choice of mail bombs contributed to a heightened security climate where opening and tampering with first-class mail is more easily justified by government bodies, thus indirectly eroding the general liberty of all and compelling more people to communicate with more efficient technological media

>Tried to hang himself during his trial rather than plead insanity

>His stinky doodoo cabin was auctioned off on the internet

>Ultimately made the fbi more profitable

>Overstylization, making his writing kind of drab

>Bad poetry

>the above in service of simping

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8b936e No.1587 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Not one old philosopher is on record condemning slavery, until the modern age, when anti-slavery sentiment became popular. What does that say about philosophy?

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5be218 No.7589

>>4265

>quality of life

This isn't at all as objective as you think it is. I don't want to jump into the slavery debate going on, but you should really scrutinize what makes life worth living and whether the modern man truly has that je ne sais quoi. Hunter gatherers lack features that are ubiquitous in the first world, such as generalized anxiety disorders, depression and other mood dysregulation problems, nihilism fueled hopelessness—the structure of our economy has lead to the structure of our society such that individuals have rooms of their own in houses of their own, often quite distanced from the houses of their neighbors, who have probably never met or rarely talk to. 'Community' is a buzzword, not a serious notion. If you made a list of pros and cons and were able to weigh those pros and cons against a value system we could agree to, I am confident that you would find that hunter gatherers living in the most 'impoverished' conditions (for this too is a subjective notion) have a quality of life similar to if not greater than the modern man. If you are a materialist who cannot appreciate the importance of the intangibles of life, then I don't expect you to agree with this claim.

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7afd8b No.7598

Slavery:

1. forced, you can't choose.

2. not forced, but you have no choice, like you have no land to farm, no money to start your own business, you have to be hired to work against your will.

Philosopher:

1. motivated only by finding the truth (possibly against slavery).

2. motivated by justifying what he benefits from (he would never condemn slavery, only justify).

I doubt a slave could have the money and education to become a philosopher. To become a philosopher, one at least has to be free. And the chance that a slave owner or a free person condemns slavery is small.

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2d215c No.7599

>>1587

>What does that say about philosophy?

That it began to suck during the modern age.

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c0e2d8 No.7601

>>1591

This is big brain time.

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bfa3f5 No.7611

>>1587

HOLY SAMEFAG BATMAN!!

>Why does philosophy only now speak against slavery

But yeah philosophy is a reflection of the time and place of the philosopher. I think that was the opinion of Spengler or someone like that.

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bb6755 No.6623 [Open thread]

Since /fringe won't let me post a question, I'll ask you guys.

If reincarnation is real, then how can you be considered the same entity/soul with your memories blanked in the next life? Consider this: if a man gets into an accident and loses all his previous memories, he's really only the same "person" in a physical sense, and in the sense that other people remember who he is, or was. However, if everyone else who knew him lost their memories of him too, he essentially loses his identity altogether and thus becomes a new individual after the accident.

TLDR; Without memory, you really have no identity, so how can reincarnation/next lives be a spiritual reality?

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c343bb No.7032

>>>/fringe/

they have a thread for questions. and they have 30 threads 750 posts long full of questions. And your question has already been asked many times. But you can asked many more times.

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06d4c9 No.7034

>>6623

Let me explain this in an Earthly/physical way, if I may.

>You have a cassette tape. You copy the contents onto another tape so you have a record of it, then you completely erase the tape. Let's say your soul is that first cassette tape and the second tape is a spiritual record kept of your past life. Even though all the data has been erased from your first cassette tape (soul) that tape (soul) is still intact, fully functional and ready to be put into a recorder (physical body) to be filled with all new recordings.

>Get it, now?

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302dc4 No.7167

Because Joe Blog who lives his life IS NOT the one being reincarnated. Entity X becomes Joe Blog - is incarnated - lives the life of Joe Blog, dies as Joe Blog, and is then reawakened/returned to Entity X.

Entity X then becomes Sarah Jane - is REincarnated - lives the life of Sarah Jane, dies as Sarah Jane, and is then reawakened/returned to Entity X.

Entity X is the real idenity. Entity X is the one being reincarnated. Joe Blog and Sarah Jane are like books upon the shelf.

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5c6ab1 No.7219

>>7014

> it doesn't generate your consciousness

read science

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f2bfce No.7607

If you reincarnate, you don't necessarily retain the memories from past lives. You are, more or less, a different person from life to life.

but supposedly there is such a thing as past-life regression:

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=HayY1yyXnn0

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2bf9b6 No.7593 [Open thread]

Can someone think of a conditional that is obviously true or false as a whole that is not a counterfactual?

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4018e3 No.7594

or a tautology or an indicative -- basically, anything that doesn't have a false or possibly false antecedent

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928d79 No.7595

Do you mean necessarily? Obviously depends on who's hearing it, I don't think you could generate any consensus on that basis.

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355397 No.7600

>>7593

I didn't know worms could use pencils?

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2b161a No.7051 [Open thread]

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9756fe No.7151

>>7142

So he's denying the ability to have discourse? Sounds like something a coward would do.

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9756fe No.7485

>>7151

most analytic atheists are cowards when faced with the abyss.

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f26deb No.7487

>>7485

Why are you replying to yourself?

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9756fe No.7491

>>7487

Ethical Solipsism

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e833b0 No.7597

>>7057

I agree.

Stephen Hawking did something similar.

Smart scientists and foolish political philosophers.

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ad5c37 No.7590 [Open thread]

if the world is flat, shouldnt tits be flat too?

Discuss lynnlynn2525@yahoo.com

Whatsapp +6594498802

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7c5a44 No.7591

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>>7590

I don't think it works that way...

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344ced No.7242 [Open thread]

San Fransisco Failed, Germany Failed, Iceland Failed, there have been countless attempts to ban infant male circumcision that have failed despite having a majority support in the area? Areas where religious minorities are at an all time low, circumcision rates are essentially non-existent. Yet non-medically justified, routine genital mutilation (religious or not) continues to occur despite the gender counter part being forbidden by law.

What message does it send where males are violated at birth, while females have their bodies protected by law? Iceland hospitals refused to conduct infant circumcision and had signed agreements among the hospitals across the country to refuse such services as medically unjustified. As a result a vote to illegalize the practice was initiated which resulted in international uproar.

It's an extremely simple topic that people have an illogical habit of complicating. The right to inflict bodily injury on another persons body without their consent. Religiously motivated or not. I cant religiously mutilate animals. It's considered animal abuse.

The main contention I have, is to put the practice into perspective to see the true tragedy and the reason why it's not complicated to see why it should be illegal. To turn the infant, into a grown adult, and keep the situation identical.

You are 25 years old. Your parents have decided to take you against your will to the doctors, where people over power you, forcefully strap you onto an operating table, strap your legs and arms down so you can't move, and without anesthesia, take a knife to your genitals, cutting the most private part of your body as you scream in pain. This is something you'd expect in a scene from the Saw movie franchise. Not something we would callously turn a blind eye happening to infants.

So what are you thoughts on why so many countries have failed their own children to protect them from genital mutilation.

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e8ea4b No.7326

>>7295

They only speak when spoken to

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e8ea4b No.7327

>>7324

Since when have women had sympathy for anyone but themselves. Schopenhauer called them children and rightfully so

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e8ea4b No.7337

>>7295

Also zioprot women are fucking idiots too.

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4558b9 No.7343

>>7263

With my brain. I want to enjoy sexual pleasure as much as possible because it's enjoyable, that is very simple. You seem to think that's somehow a bad thing which it isn't, and is in no way for you to thrust on anyone else against their will.

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52d715 No.7588

>>7324

>uncut men don't really have significant sympathy for people complaining about their lost foreskin

I have what might be termed survivor's guilt on this issue. Maybe not true survivor's guilt in the PTSD sense, but anytime this topic gets brought up or I think of it randomly, my blood boils to think of all my friends and family, and compatriots who I will never meet, who had this done to them. You're right that most people don't think it's a big enough issue to warrant such strong emotion, but given what I know (namely how conniving the medical establishment can be, and how religion pseudojustifications factor into it), I certainly feel warranted in my strong emotions.

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a2de08 No.7581 [Open thread]

Why do we lie? It’s the source to every other evil on our planet.

Naturally, we wouldn’t lie. When we have everything we need, when we get everything we want, we don’t have to lie. We wouldn’t have to betray.

Is the pressure on every single one of us way to large? Can’t we handle our existence, whitout lying? Are we just coping the behavior of our fellow humans? Are we hidden in a negative spyrale, because the best liers have the best chances for might and power?

Isn’t this spreading just like cancer? Is our planet like the first cancer cell in a human body? When’s the moment you differ? Now, it’s a healthy cell, fighting the cancer whitin. Now it’s a comlete cancer cell, ready to infiltrate other cells, ready to spread.

We are currently planning to invade our neighbor cell, Mars.

On the other side. How easy would it be, to heal this cancer. When we just delete the negative factor.

We can just start to erfüllen the needs of the next smaler cells. For the human body, that would be some proteins i think, for our world it is a little more complicated.

The next smaller would be the continents, the nations, the regions, the cities and villages, the families and then the humans, you and me.

That’s just the natural order, a pattern i find everywhere.

If a cell is sick, satisfy it’s needs.

If our planet is sick, satisfy every humans needs.

To eleminate all the corruption, all the wars, all the deaths, all the thefts, wheter it’s nations stealing from other nations, or people stealing from other people, or people stealing from everyone.

All we have to do, is fulfill our needs and be happy.

But everyone has to know and do this.

Everyone has to see the vision.

Anyone has to know, where he wants to go.

Some of us have to lead the way.

Where We Go One We Go All. Let's start pointing at directions.

Q - positron

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31ae46 No.7586

Naturally one can't assume the nature of truth.

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a53cc8 No.7587

>>7581

Might want to look into this: https://serendipstudio.org/exchange/molly-tamulevich/oh-cruel-world-evolution-cruelty-human-beings

"In Our Inner Ape, De Waal provides example after example of empathy and cruelty among chimps and bonobos. Empathy, the ability to understand and perceive the emotions of others is another trait that assumes theory of mind, and he argues that a wide range of animals from dogs and cats to chimpanzees and bonobos possess this trait. Waal describes a female bonobo's empathetic attempts to assist a stunned bird to fly again. She spread its wings with her fingers and tossed the bird into the air. When the bird fell to the ground, she sat with it until it recovered and could fly on its own. This compassion for a different species is not as remarkable as the fact that the bonobo tailored her efforts to fit what she had observed of birds, that they fly and that they spread their wings to do so. The bonobo demonstrates a high level of intelligence in realizing the plight of the "other," especially because it is unlike her.

Because bonobos possess empathy; they are aware of an animal's pain, which establishes that they are also aware of cruelty. Chimps posses this theory of mind as well. De Waal describes a game that a group of captive chimpanzees played in which they lured chickens to them with bread and then poked them with sharp wire for fun. The chimpanzees utilized thier physical and intellectual power over the weaker, less intelligent chickens to inflict pain upon them. The chicken's pain amused the chimps, illustrating the chimps' capacity for cruelty. Chimps also attack others in pairs, one holding the victim down and the other beating the helpless captive. In making their victim immobile in order to inflict more pain upon them, chimps exhibit a premeditated agenda to do harm. The infliction of pain releases endorphins in the chimps, rewarding them for their cruelty. In these ways, both chimps and bonobos exhibit traits that suggest a theory of mind, and because chimps, bonobos and humans are closely liPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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bc8360 No.7604

>>7581

Because men's rights = LOL

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cca320 No.7585 [Open thread]

That's what humanity's best at.

There were so many informations, produced by human minds, from the moment we invented the word 'idea' til now.

Every generation learnt their forefathers facts, connected them, found similarities and compressed the information into the next larger piece of the puzzle called nature.

Our generation is gonna create an explosion of knowledge. We got the internet.

Try it for yourself.

Jordan Peterson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8e_dvbXoCQ

1000 books of our intellectuel ancestors, compressed to 5h from one of the smartest guys around.

Your turn's next. Try to compress this information into a 1 minute video.

Where We Go One We Wonnna Know

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09b114 No.7584 [Open thread]

What's a lifespan?

It's a mosquitos fart compared to the evolution of our lifestyle.

Let's produce a show. About a Familly.

Scenario:

The builder of the pyramides extinct after a flood, caused by the end of the iceage

Some 'pharaos' survived in foreign countries, building monuments all over the world.

I want a show about their descendants, from then till now. After each episode, the next generation gets into the lead position.

A show through history, from the perspective of one single family.

How would this change the perspective of our own lifetime? How much could we learn, when we continue, start to write the story of our own future?

When we get in complete control of this monster called time.

Positive suggestion.

If you want to gain perspective, set it into relation.

Another story idea.

A man makes a plan to fly to the stars.

For him and his next 28 Generations.

He got the idea. Generation 3 & 4 make the money.

G 5 - 10 engineer the rockets, create the science.

Generation 12 lifts off, 248 People leave our planet.

The next 13 Generation live their lives in space, on an eternal travel.

At Generation 25 another human spaceship passes by, more advanced and much faster.

They knew about our guys and they have presents, new and better technology from far back home.

Generation 26 arrives at the new planet, faster than expected.

Generation 27 & 28 Set their Foundation for their new civilisation.

This film is the work of the head of the first generation, to visualize his vision. To inform & motivate every single descendant from him to work for this shared vision.

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83bea6 No.7583 [Open thread]

https://youtu.be/fabjooTef3I

What happens, when we educate a group of people to organize themself the old ways. All woman organazing together, the man fix problem and find solutions.

We could start experimantal companies, run that way.

Where We Go One We Go In Love.

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b0abfd No.7582 [Open thread]

The world has been divides, social progress has bin prohibited for the last 200 Years.

Now the times are changing.

So, what's next?

Liberalism, Capitalism, Nationalism, Communism, Democracy..

All this Ideas are so old. I want something new. Humanity learned so much over the last century. I'd like to use this knowledge. We invented so many devices, some of them are smarter than we are.

Let us use that shit.

So, what's next?

Let us gather ideas.

All of us. Let us compare and combine our ideas. Let us try them. Let us create a list of thousands of ways for humans to live together, locally, sustainable and peacefully.

And if you want to, you can support a specific idea, and when there are enough supporters, you can start to live in this society.

imo, humanities last mistake has been the limitation of possibilities.

There can only be good, or evil.

Strong or weak.

It's the only way.

Left or right?

This is not how evolution works.

Nature is always trying to create as many alternatives as possible.

We need diversity.

We have to create as many different possibilities as we can.

Time is gonna destroy a majority of them.

That's called evolution.

That's just the most efficient way to prepare for the unpreparable.

Where we go one, our futurest children will live.

Q - positron

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64a7f5 No.7527 [Open thread]

>One of the best Atheist Philosophers

>Recognizes Man's need for Self-esteem

>Holds reality to be an absolute.

>No mystified metaphysics and epistemology.

There seems to be something far deeper to Rand than her political philosophy. It's a shame that people don't know about it more.

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f43d68 No.7561

>>7527

>Holds reality to be an absolute.

This is pure delusion as we only have limited perspective on reality

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f43d68 No.7562

>>7527

also read kant

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64a7f5 No.7575

>>7561

She doesn't deny this. What unique about her is she states that one part of the reality cannot contradict the another. As if reality could contradict itself. A limited view is just as valid and can be build upon.

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01042b No.7576

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>>7527

Ayn Rand was a Closed Individualist though, which is on shaky philosophical grounds.

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64a7f5 No.7578

>>7576

>Closed Individualism

This is philosophical mistake which materialist make as well. It's the failure of recognizing the difference between animate and inanimate thing in reality. The animate being living being, things capable of self-motion, from energy used that is stored with in their body which came from food. Closed Individuality is found. There's even a whole science dedicated to the study of life, biology.

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