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7b9252 No.5628 [Open thread]

Just finished Open Society and Objective Knowledge. Enjoyed them both but....so what? didn't someone else come up with falsification first anyway? Is this just a right time right place sort of thing or is it his influence on those after.

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8ca212 No.5635

>>5628

His rejection of Plato irritates me

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7f36c8 No.5637

>>5628

>didn't someone else come up with falsification first anyway?

Did someone do that first? I don't know.

Mainly I find him retarded because

>Marxism is unfalsifiable

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57b9db No.5745

I like his philosophy of science but I disagree with his political philosophy also George Soros.

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5d8bfa No.5714 [Open thread]

A-asking for a friend uwu

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9ae61a No.5716

>>5714

Zhuangzi my dude

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477ff3 No.5742

Learn Chinese,

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cda8ba No.1979 [Open thread]

In short I was wondering if the two could be compatible or at least Christianity could learn from Nietzsche. The only conflict I foresee is master and slave mentality, but Christians should know that God loves them and made them in his image. He wants us to enjoy earth and it's pleasures, with some restraint. When Nietzsche said "God is dead" he wasn't saying that it was a good thing. Rather he was saying it was bad, as science robbed "passionate, Dionysian spirituality that lent life vitality and meaning". Nietzsche also know religion provided a psychological comfort to humans.

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d583cf No.5309

Christianity is dead. Quit performing CPR.

It's time to switch metaphors and begin salvage. There's some good wood in between the cancer masses. Get it out so it can be incorporated into Christianity's successor.

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9ee9e3 No.5539

I've pondered this before. Enoch Powell comes to mind.

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9ee9e3 No.5540

>>4992

one of my favorite philosophers

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62e811 No.5545

Look into Soren Kierkigard. He's a Christian Existentialist. That's probably about as close as you'll get afaik

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6cb11c No.5741

>>4992

he was one of the greats predated Nietszche

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fb30cf No.1798 [Open thread]

Whats the legal requirement/rule for make qutes of dead thinkers to refute them? for exampe, i quote Kant and his main works to refute him and his ideas; do i any need copyrights for this, or somthing similar?

More importantly, are works consisting of refutations of important works considered relevant?

>pic unrealted

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fb30cf No.1805

>>1804

>New and original idea

>critiquing Schopenhauer

Bruv, I suggest you find a bigger target if you want your critique to actually have something new. Schopenhauer is widely ignored in academia precisely because he wasn't anything original in his own time.

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fb30cf No.1806

>>1804

That's not ipso facto. You criticise and then suggest your own ideas, but the two aren't connected by necessity. Though there might be a nunace to the term "critique" I'm unaware of.

>>1805

Philosophical academia isn't necessarily as linear as that though. Even 'discarded' ideas can be reevaluated or made fruitful at any given time, provided it's done well enough.

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fb30cf No.1809

I assume that the majority of copyright laws make exceptions to quotations in scholarly works, given that they are properly cited.

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b3531e No.5670

>>1798

CRITIZING BUMPS?! NOWAY!

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51e1a7 No.5722

>>1805

modern academia is full of "empowered wimmins" now. Schopenhauer would be a blow to their fragile egos.

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ececef No.5534 [Open thread]

is it idealistic or existentialist thought that "good people must do bad things sometimes"? that, even if the ends are idealistic, the means are actively nihilistic? I'm not sure where this falls. picture semi-related.

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311944 No.5548

>>5534

You seem to be very confused about the words you're using.

If the purpose of an action is that some intrinsically ideal circumstance obtains, then by definition the action was not nihilistic.

But maybe you're thinking of pragmatism.

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72fc31 No.5710

Not a big fan of existentialism but I'm pretty sure it postulates that morality is subjective. So the question would not really be

< do "good people must do bad things sometimes"

but

> do good actions exist

idealism postulate that there are metaphysical forms of the our material reality, which are perfect and unaltered. Therefore material reality is the corruption of perfect metaphysical objects into the physical. At first I'd be tempted to say that it does apply. However if you look at this closely the question would be, I believe; >does morality exist as a physical object or metaphysical object?

If the former then it must be corrupted, as an physical object (assuming you are in the idealist mindset) by its material form.

If the latter then it cannot be corrupted so morality is objective but since people (who apply it) are material they cannot be the elite of moral because of their material corruption hence the can do bad thing even if the are good.

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cce144 No.5719

ok coming back to this very inactive thread, it seems I fall between Idealism and Compatiblism (strange as there is no flag on here for that, nor Determinism)

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eb01c2 No.4288 [Open thread]

Does randomness exist?

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eb01c2 No.4468

Si, But understanding the volume of it seems impossible. Not enough red pills.

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eb01c2 No.4997

Hell yeah it does check mah dubs

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eb01c2 No.5034

epistemic randomness as in unpredictability, sure

metaphysical randomnes as in acausal top jej eventuation independent of experience, no

metaphysical randomness posits an entity acting out of accordance with its identity

which violates the law of identity, and is therefore incoherent

even if the notion were both coherent poopies haha & instantiated, you could never know if and when

it happens, since any instance of metaphysical randomness is consistent with epistemic randomness

you could never rulel out epistemic randomness

also, there's nothing logically incoherent in positing metaphysical determinism

and there are deterministic xd interpretations of QM

so, you can't really argue for metaphysical randomness either conceptually or empirically

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3b5885 No.5355

Randomness approximately exists the way the speed of light is approximately infinite for the purposes of Newtonian physics, and the way the size of atoms is approximately zero.

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3464e0 No.5713

>>4288

No.

Actually the more you make random decisions the more it ends up the same result. Scale nullify randomness.

However there is far too many parameters we cannot take into account, so it might as well exist.

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54a901 No.4775 [Open thread]

How old were you when you realized the world didn't revolve around you? How did you cope with your first existential angst?

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7e2562 No.5613

>>5610

>implying he didn't

>implying you have an actual response

>2015 + 2

>not killing yourself

smh kys srlsy famlalalalam

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aee466 No.5616

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>>5613

>implying your shitpost isn't my property

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5b670e No.5657

>>4775

I don't think I ever thought the world revolved around me. I don't even understand that kind of self perception.

Maybe I still do and just can't tell. Can you explain what you mean by thinking the world revolves around you?

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5b0de1 No.5698

tbh in the future it will

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7a451c No.5702

>How old were you when you realized the world didn't revolve around you?

Never, I was a retard who had no sense of value, so anything bad that happened I just brushed off, and now that I know nothing has value for sure the only crisis I'm having is being disappointed in the fact that I'm barely human anymore.

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664b29 No.5699 [Open thread]

1. when a man goes back in time and kill myself 5 minutes before past-him makes the journey 5 minutes into the past to kill himself, he stands over the dead body of past-him and nothing special happens, meanwhile, in the timeline he came from, he had simply entered the time portal and disappeared.

This is because there exists parallel timelines, NOT branching timelines, PARALLEL timelines, meaning that instead of a single timeline that gets divided up by all future possibilities at any given moment, an entire separate timeline exists for every possible combination of possible states that the universe can take between it's big bang and it's big crunch, and this accounts for all the possible states the universe can take as a result of time travel.

Time travel involves the movement of whatever is traveling from it's location in timeline A, to a previous point in timeline B, but since the states that the universe took up in timeline B were identical to timeline A up until their arrival, it might as well be the same universe.

Nothing happens to the self-icidal traveller in the opening example given because he was not strictly assassinating himself in the past of his timeline, but rather, he was assassinating someone who was identical to himself 5 minutes ago in a universe that is identical to the one in his home universe five minutes ago, he may never realize this, and he can never go back to the timeline he arrived from, if he goes into the future, he instead arrives at a future point in the timeline he had departed from.

2. The butterfly effect is merely meant to demonstrate how the cumulative effects of a small event can create a larger event over long periods of time via extended chains of cause-and-effect, and how this process makes it difficult to make predictions about the future, it says nothing about whether actions committed in the past would produce positive or negative results, nor whether they WOULD even produce a large-scale result, it only states what COULD possibly occur over time, they COULD also create positive large-scale effects, negative small-scale effects, positive small-scale effects, etc. the multiverse is not a sentient being, it cannot tell, nor can it care, what a bipePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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c69f27 No.5876

gay

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920799 No.4896 [Open thread]

His "Why I am not a Christian" is pretty good Know any other short philosophical essays against religion?

How the Churches Have Retarded Progress

"You may think that I am going too far when I say that that is still so. I do not think that I am. Take one fact. You will bear with me if I mention it. It is not a pleasant fact, but the churches compel one to mention facts that are not pleasant. Supposing that in this world that we live in today an inexperienced girl is married to a syphilitic man; in that case the Catholic Church says, "This is an indissoluble sacrament. You must endure celibacy or stay together. And if you stay together, you must not use birth control to prevent the birth of syphilitic children." Nobody whose natural sympathies have not been warped by dogma, or whose moral nature was not absolutely dead to all sense of suffering, could maintain that it is right and proper that that state of things should continue."- Bernard Russel

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ef7973 No.5380

>>5378

Sorry, are you saying that four hour work days lack integrity or distancing yourself from the Bible lacks integrity?

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f98701 No.5381

>>4896

The example marriage he gives would be grounds for an annulment in the Church . . .

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23716c No.5527

>chasing progress for the sake of progress.

Russel was a retard.

>also ignoring Orthodoxy.

I read some post the other the other day where a former protestant (now an atheist) said Catholics are heretics.

bitch, you don't get to make that decision.

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5fb01e No.5696

well then you're raging homosexual. his books today are nothing more than an equivalent of a Jezebel clickbait article. also, Bonfire material.

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5fb01e No.5697

>>5696

>>5527

shit I was the last person to respond. this place isn't very active.

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bc6a7e No.4495 [Open thread]

Explain dialectical materialism to me.

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bc6a7e No.4498

>>4497

>overdetermination

No.

>materialism = physicalism

No.

Have you ever read Marx? Fuck.

Just read my intro to dialectics in general.

https://empyreantrail.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/dialectics-an-introduction/

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acb5ed No.5585

Its nonsense and unscientific. somewhat like dharma or palm reading.

Just read popper.

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dc1186 No.5605

>>4495

Marx is currently am underrated genuis.

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c53164 No.5607

>>4495

It's a shitty bastardized revisionist edit of Marx's Historical Materialism that Stalin came up with.

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9e2391 No.5694

>>4498

dialectics was invented by Hegel not Marx.

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9fd0c9 No.1828 [Open thread]

I just sais smth deep

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9fd0c9 No.1849

>>1828

Nietzsche wrote a lot about it in "The Antichrist."

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f233b0 No.5676

>>1828

I WROTE A LOT ABOUT BUMPS

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9a450b No.5692

Absurdism I'd say

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ce8001 No.5658 [Open thread]

How does this guy have so much popularity and followers?

https://twitter.com/existentialcoms?s=17

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909205 No.5683

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027a16 No.1594 [Open thread]

hey /philosophy/ !

>>>/christ/ reporting in.

Since we have related topics at our boards but are both quite small I want to propose to put a link at each others board.

This will increase both our traffic/Userbase hopefully and we both will profit.

If you don't want to do that you are still welcome to open a thread at our board and discuss with us.

Regardless of your religious believes, you are also welcome if you are a non-christian or atheist.

Have a nice day

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027a16 No.1752

Greetings /philosophy/

We at /christ/ have noticed that you kindly accepted our offer and put a link to us.

We want to reciprocate. Unfortunately our BO does not know how to link correctly to another board. Could you explain it please :3

Thank you very much!

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027a16 No.1780

>>1752

sure, copy the following to the board announcement bar:

Check out our friends at: <kek href="https://8ch.net/philosophy/">/philosophy/ - Philosophy</a>

replace "kek" with "a"

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027a16 No.1783

>>1780

Thanks a lot. I said it to our BO.

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027a16 No.1844

Hello there! I'm from /christ/ too.

How many are you here, roughly?

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8d3a03 No.5675

BUMP FAG REPORTING IN

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71995a No.437 [Open thread]

I just created a board for those interested:

>>>/zen/
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71995a No.1797

>>437

yes nbump

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c931a7 No.5674

>>1797

>>1797

>>1797

>>1797

A MAN OF BUMP

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3c5828 No.1636 [Open thread]

What is the difference between philosophy and pseudo-philosophy? Is there a way to avoid pseudo-philosophizing?

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3c5828 No.1734

>>1726

Why? Asking questions? Not relying solely and entirely on empiricy?

Though you're probably right, that may well be the reason. Not a very good but an understandable one.

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3c5828 No.1739

>>1726

What are you doing on this board if you're a dogmatic empiricist? I'm not trying to insult you, I'm seriously asking.

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3c5828 No.1743

No way.

Also, related link http://8ch.net/yuno/res/8.html

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3c5828 No.1826

Most of those posted around on social media based themselves on 1-sided assertions that are shallow, don't require critical thought and are easy to absorb, but only adequately enough to seem "deep".

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56e097 No.5673

WHAT"S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BUMP AND PSEUDO_BUMPS?

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