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ececef No.5534

is it idealistic or existentialist thought that "good people must do bad things sometimes"? that, even if the ends are idealistic, the means are actively nihilistic? I'm not sure where this falls. picture semi-related.

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311944 No.5548

>>5534

You seem to be very confused about the words you're using.

If the purpose of an action is that some intrinsically ideal circumstance obtains, then by definition the action was not nihilistic.

But maybe you're thinking of pragmatism.

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72fc31 No.5710

Not a big fan of existentialism but I'm pretty sure it postulates that morality is subjective. So the question would not really be

< do "good people must do bad things sometimes"

but

> do good actions exist

idealism postulate that there are metaphysical forms of the our material reality, which are perfect and unaltered. Therefore material reality is the corruption of perfect metaphysical objects into the physical. At first I'd be tempted to say that it does apply. However if you look at this closely the question would be, I believe; >does morality exist as a physical object or metaphysical object?

If the former then it must be corrupted, as an physical object (assuming you are in the idealist mindset) by its material form.

If the latter then it cannot be corrupted so morality is objective but since people (who apply it) are material they cannot be the elite of moral because of their material corruption hence the can do bad thing even if the are good.

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cce144 No.5719

ok coming back to this very inactive thread, it seems I fall between Idealism and Compatiblism (strange as there is no flag on here for that, nor Determinism)

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