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0f08ee No.5404 [Open thread]

Why am I so amazingly smart? QFT

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d17024 No.5405

You experience this illusion because you've been surrounded by your intellectual inferiors your whole life. Leave your home and find a place where you will frequently be the least intelligent person in the room, and you will be able to grow and learn far more than ever before.

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69cac5 No.5433

File: 5566d72aa829ab3⋯.jpg (140.94 KB,1493x1600,1493:1600,5566d72aa829ab3380e958b5b8….jpg)

>>5404

>absurdism

>intelligent

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6f1013 No.5436

>>5433

Its the default flag, so everyone gets it by default.

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885607 No.5532

because you enjoy pleasing yourself sexually.

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dca976 No.4664 [Open thread]

was he autistic?

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dca976 No.4677

>>4664

He was filled with the Spirit of the LORD

>>4666

Get thee behind me Satan

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dca976 No.4694

>>4664

I heard he was afraid of being anywhere near women. First MGTOW?

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dca976 No.4704

>>4694

I'm pretty sure he had a child out of wedlock, so no

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e5136e No.5330

Hey normie. What's up? GTFO.

>was he right?

Who cares! Maybe he had autism! And then we wouldn't have been able to have a beer together!

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2dc531 No.5531

falling down the rabbit hole into autism is the final red pill

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fe5acb No.4919 [Open thread]

So Philosophy I've been having a existential crisis. I'm afraid to break my solipsism habit. Everything in the universe revolves around me, Everything I see on tv, read in books, people talking to me. No matter how big the problem or small it is I can't seem to not notice it. because I have nothing more demanding in my life then such I can't stop it. I want to know it is me and still enjoy it. it's annoying me.

Am I being a coward?

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18f771 No.5422

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>5418

Spot on. DSM won't help you with your depression.

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c10795 No.5424

>>5419

Not exactly. The TV laughter is a good example. The solipsist thinks, "It sounds like someone else laughing about something totally unrelated to me, but actually it's me laughing at me." OP thinks, "I know it's someone else laughing about something that isn't me, but it sounds like they're laughing at me."

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f9b021 No.5431

>>5424

That's what I get " it's me laughing at me" And that I think that laughter is malicious or something I have to improve myself to, my humility

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517474 No.5486

>>4919

Learn something you dont know that is difficult. Read or learn something beyond your capacity. It both makes you humble and cures solipsism. Shit, play a difficult video game

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d8489e No.5530

>>4919

no you are not alone. most Solipsists are maladjusts like you and I. Kafkatrapping is very real but the backfire from us can be worse. its like gaslighting by liberal idealists. the Enlightenment era created a lot of societal outcasts. the only answer to the eternal question is shooting us back to the dark ages. where the real ubermensch will show himself.

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946cb3 No.5265 [Open thread]

Hey guys on /philosophy/! I have a question for you:

If Adolf Hitler were actually real, would you rather play on his team or on the other team? Like if it happened. Who's team would you want to be on? Why or why not?

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251482 No.5267

I would play against him because I don't speak German.

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5785fb No.5268

>If Adolf Hitler were actually real

I thought this was a joke on holocaust not being real but then I started wondering what the FUCK you actually meant because I'm pretty sure people don't deny Adolf existing.

Anyways, probably against him. Yeah he's tough and all but socialism is no-go and he wouldn't have made all that money without trading with countries and then entering war with them..

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006014 No.5468

File: 13a23f2c0f80489⋯.jpg (15.8 KB,400x422,200:211,13a23f2c0f80489eb678c10c21….jpg)

bump xd

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d6edf5 No.5469

So far, he has a history of loosing wars. I'd probably not want to be on his side. However, I don't like picking sides. So I may or may not just flip a coin if I had to make the choice.

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3c9f02 No.5525

probably would rather act as a mediator.

>no third option.

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750506 No.4893 [Open thread]

Man, I'm just lost

What's the difference between continental and analytical philosophers? I've just been stumbling in the darkness learning basic things without seriously considering the differences.

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e932a2 No.5481

>>5479

>>5480

Okay so, where do I begin with this one

>People who do dumb things are continental, for continental philosophers are people who do dumb things. Trust me.

I would rather not!

>Emiya Shirou/Archer

So I googled this, result that comes most likely is http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Shirou_Emiya

Why are you using japanese anime in a argument?

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5cebc2 No.5482

>>5481

Emiya Shirou has given more meaningful monologues than Jesus Christ and got followers, like an extreme Jesus, and of course any sef-sacrificing Jesus philosophy not grounded in logic will fail.

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4b23b5 No.5485

>>5482

>Some anime character has given monologues than Jesus Christ

Oh fuck, I have been hooked

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206b1b No.5490

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>>5485

Jesus is a highly overrated ignoramus, and anime philosophy is currently underrated except by intellectuals.

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2843f7 No.5523

>>4895

Dawkins is basically a modernist version of Janus Pifrons.

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c9ab94 No.5274 [Open thread]

What is the difference between Stoicism and Idealism?

I am personally a fan of Neoplatonism

General comparison of philosophy thread I guess

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3cfd80 No.5282

Stoicism is a life plan, and a subsidiary epistemology. Idealism is a cosmology.

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fa6107 No.5522

I've heard my beliefs being described as a mix of "pre-modernism" and "meta-modernism" not sure if that's idealistic or not. most quizzes give me Platonism.

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4e78f6 No.5517 [Open thread]

>Chinese writing actually used to have little guys with fat heads walking around.

This is the philosophy of simplification.

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5c919a No.5518

The latin alphabet used to as well. all written languages are hieroglyph shorthand

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ee980d No.5520

>>5518

And now we have emojis 🤡👹☠️👽☹️😷😩🤥😩🙁☹️🐟🐟🐈🐟🐲🦀🦂🍇🌔🏑🤾🏿‍♂️🏑🎱🏒

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ee980d No.5521

👳🏾👳🏾👳🏾👳🏾👳🏾🛩🛩🛩🏢🏢💣💣💣💣

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80ccae No.4079 [Open thread]

I like Crash Course and School of Life but I feel like maybe they are coloring my perceptions of philosophers and history a little too much, especially now that i've read a bit of Plato and I found there's so much more to him that what their 9 minute episodes could cover.

Do these two channels sucks? If so what channels don't suck?

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80ccae No.4164

>>4158

Funny, after posting that... post, I decided to check him out more in-depth, found HHH, and now I'm a few vids into it. This guy does rule.

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80ccae No.4165

>>4164

His Anselm vids are really good too. I learned a lot from him about Anselm

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b3861c No.5389

>>4082

>>4158

Sadler does seem to have potential. He might know something I don't know, but it just takes so long to wade through all the stuff I already know...

Anyone have a tip for something he covers that seems particular obscure?

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957310 No.5494

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05e23b No.5516

>>4079

>School of Life

Literal trash. The video on the mind body problem was something like

<It's when you, like, don't like the way you look

Don't watch youtube as a substitute for reading the actual book

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d66cd6 No.5183 [Open thread]

"If you can properly phrase the question, then the answer is the easy part, So, to the degree that we can better understand the universe, then we can better know what questions to ask."

-Elon Musk

What do you think the right question to life is?

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c3b33d No.5492

>>5491

We have good reason to not pay much attention to ideas that are unlikely to be true. There isn't time to give every crackpot an ear when he steps on the soapbox; atheists tend to think you need to earn respect and aren't automatically entitled it by virtue of being alive. Of course this is an anonymous image board, but I don't take this place or the posters here that seriously.

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48a781 No.5493

>>5492

That's a very fair position. For myself, I don't discount crackpots because some aspect of truth and some aspect of falsehood can be gleaned from nearly any statement, even if it's just something symbolic that you and your intuition made up. Like all good and mediocre Discordians, I hold the firm belief that I should hold no firm beliefs, but that includes the firm belief that somebody's firm belief is entirely false.

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c3b33d No.5505

>>5493

That's fine when you have the time, but I'd rather listen to rational people because I live in a large enough city that I can avoid the company of people I don't like. I have met too many easily offended Christians who throw a fit at anything you say, even if it has nothing to do with religion. They tend to be prejudiced crackpots with poor methodologies for reaching the truth.

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48a781 No.5507

>>5505

The time's going to pass anyways, and I'm in no rush. I spent 8 months going to hundreds of Bible studies and practicing Christianity, praying several times a day, and whatnot. There's definitely some learning to be done concerning matters that most atheist thinkers would never touch, but truth can definitely be found more quickly elsewhere.

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0dca54 No.5509

test post to update board index.

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4b0c51 No.5495 [Open thread]

but this in the sticky pls

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic

and maybe this too

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:C27562A243FEBE232A82669259C44EB171A255D0&dn=The%20story%20of%20philosophy%28pdf%29

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04bdb4 No.5508

Yeah.

I need to redo the board page anyway. Hang tight, I'm (BO) working on it.

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d8516c No.5444 [Open thread]

How is it possible to justify/defend that one is able to access a certain archetype which one has not previously observed in nature? Can you point me towards an example of an archetype/structure which can be analysed by one's intellect yet has not been found in Nature?

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3e528a No.5448

This kinda questions would probably would probably get better answers from /fringe/. granted, it if where posted there you may get an increased chance of shoppers or word salady answers.

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3e528a No.5449

Sorry I meant to say shitposters.

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8abe3d No.5445 [Open thread]

I want to argue to you that the be a truly evil person does not do what they want.

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bccc1a No.5446

>word salad

>default flag

>the wrong type of batteries

How am I supposed to shitpost if the OP is worse than anything I could come up with?

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a85e96 No.5072 [Open thread]

I often find myself at a loss of words to describe a feeling of profound loneliness accompanied with a bittersweet realization of the meaninglessness of existence. Is there a word for this?

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7cdd3a No.5160

That's weird. If you realize that existence does not have an objective meaning, you should then realize that meaningfulness is subjective and so then you can ascribe any meaning that you desire to your life!

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e3237c No.5178

Covfefe

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7cdd3a No.5181

>>5178

why can't I hold all this meaning

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a6f023 No.5292

Define 'meaning' and maybe we can have a discussion that isn't six people standing around facing away from each other, yelling into empty fields.

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cfe5a3 No.5443

>>5072

Puberty.

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0b5312 No.5080 [Open thread]

I've been spending a lot of time thinking about viewing human existence, at its most fundamental level, as a struggle for permanence.

Immortality itself is essentially impossible, and primarily a fool's dream. But information, passed down from one impermanent vessel to the next, can theoretically achieve permanence.

Therefore, an individual who makes contributions significant enough to become famous and have their story or work documented and passed down for future generations have achieved a level of immortality, or at least permanence.

The ultimate goal would be to achieve popular fame from a historical perspective, so that even thousands of years from your death, your name, or your work, is a household name. Think Alexander the Great.

This of course leads to the moral problem of fame v. infamy, and how to deal with Herostratus copy-cats. Is fame, achieved through immoral means, reprehensible?

Anyways, my point in asking is, is there any documented philosophers who have examined this approach? If not, I'd love to write about it myself, and if there is, I'd quite like to read their work.

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ad6140 No.5115

I can't think of anyone of renown who has ever defended vanity.

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12327e No.5299

If humanity is the struggle for permanence, then the goal of philosophy is to figure out how to serenely give up that struggle. Perhaps Siddhartha had some thoughts on this topic...?

Permanence would actually suck. Imagine that every mistake you made was eternal and ineluctable. Every time you hurt yourself, it was a permanent scar. Every time your hand slipped, permanent vandalism. And now all of a sudden you have some appreciation of impermanence.

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fc386f No.5439

>>5299

Which would you rather be, Siddhartha or Buddha?

Both achieved Nirvana, but only one lived on in the teachings they passed down to millions of followers.

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fc386f No.5440

>>5115

It's not vanity. After you're dead, there's no more pride. If it were about you, then you wouldn't care what happened to it after your lifetime.

It's security. Hope. The knowledge that while your life may be a fleeting moment in time, your legacy will love on.

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099d03 No.5450

>>5439

Fame is a cost, not a reward. Read your Epicurus.

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59ebe2 No.2409 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

There is a runaway trolley barreling down the railway tracks. Ahead, on the tracks, there are five people tied up and unable to move. The trolley is headed straight for them. You are standing some distance off in the train yard, next to a lever. If you pull this lever, the trolley will switch to a different set of tracks. However, you notice that there is a person on the side track. You have two options: (1) Do nothing, and the trolley kills the five people on the main track. (2) Pull the lever, diverting the trolley onto the side track where it will kill one person. Which is the correct choice?

This is the thought experiment created by Philippa Foot in 1967. I've read the book Would you kill the fat man? by David Edmonds and it has made me think. I still don't know what I would do, however I would approve of killing the fat man in order to save the other five. According to negative utilirism and the doctrine of the double effect, that would be the right action. The only problem is that you'd have to kill a human being.

I feel quite conflicted about these two choices, what would /philosphy/ do?

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d58380 No.5323

>>5315

>Litterally all but 1 of the posts are by you OP, do you not know how IDs work?

It's a bug. Also 'literally' only has one 't' in it.

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27f4bd No.5398

>>2409

The correct answer is whatever will result in killing the most ugly people, and sparing the best looking people. A human alive is not inherently better than a human dead, so you should do whatever will maximize the net value of the humans in question. Assuming they are strangers, the only metric available to you to determine their worth is their physical appearance.

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0ee087 No.5434

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443bd1 No.5435

>>2436

>If you do nothing doesn't that absolve you of responsibility since you've chosen not to be involved?

According to certain people, if you don't involve yourself on something, you're GUILTY

So for example, if a child is drowning nearby and you don't choose to save him you're GUILTY GUILTY GUILTY for leaving the child to die there

(Do remember that this post is just for reference on why this whole thought experiment can be created, and in my opinion it probably was created by some muggle.)

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d58380 No.5437

Whoever originally tied them to the tracks is ultimately responsible.

But, fun fact: everyone who let themselves end up tied to tracks fucked up. It's not a random act of god. They failed to secure their person against mad Snidely Whiplashes with sufficient enthusiasm, and are now paying the price. This breaks the symmetry between the 'kill' and 'let die' versions. The fat man did nothing wrong.

Whether you pull the lever or don't, Snidely Whiplash is guilty of murder, and you're not. Who you happen to save is purely down to personal taste. If they don't like it, they shouldn't have let themselves get tied to train tracks. Maybe their funeral attendees will learn better for next time.

However, as a private citizen, you will literally never see a trolley problem. Snidely Whiplash doesn't exist, nobody gets tied to train tracks, and even if they did you don't hang around manually-operable track levers. Not even metaphorically. The trolley problem is a problem for states.

E.g, do you execute murderers? If you don't, they may go and murder again. If you do, you might execute an innocent man. By the displacement theory you can lock them up until they're 35, but that's expensive. If you spent that on, say, blood drive advertisements instead, you might well save more lives than you lose in executed innocents. However, all of these options save different people. The distributions are dissimilar. Necessarily the state is saying they care more about one group than another.

And that's why getting the trolley problem right is important, but also why getting it right is irrelevant. States have never given the slightest shit about philosophy, so even if you work it out correctly and all agree, they're still going to do horrible corrupt state things instead.

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