/philosophy/ - Philosophy

>>6969

i wish i was a burger

>>6944

I am the guy you were replying to. Where would Situationism and/or Absurdism fit?

>>6922

No, communism fits in with the egoists. You just need to meet more communists

>>7207

0/10

>>6949

>to ask what system would actually encourage them to earn their own success, rather than make life harder for those who try and easier for those who refuse to.

Sounds like meritocracy would fit the bill here.

>>7228

biologists say the sense of life is to reproduce

>>7228

physicists say the sense of life is to dissipate energy

Foucault and Heidegger. I dunno maybe Nietzsche too, does Schopenhauer qualify?

Though I'm not a fan of existentialism in general too much of a Plato and Hegel fanboy.

>>6844

Likely. One can hope. Based Kojeve. Doesn't get enough credit. People would rather Jack off to Spinoza all day.

>>5809

Most are feminist so they must believe in something, like cuckery

>>2456

dead one

furthermore, modest living and a modicum of hedonism was all a man needed, now its a drive towards an eternal cult of MDMA.

>>7050

Atheism was a modernist mistake. Savages back then would have you skinned alive for thinking you were above your given tribe and the same goes for feminists too. Pure unadulterated ritual cannibalism. You should be so lucky we live in a capitalist, Democratic society to allow the filth of your kind to be proliferated throughout technology. Without it you're a societal liability.

>>7050

You can't equate the psychic with the physical without proper evidence. Being able to monitor neural activity does not prove that the psychic originates in matter unless you can prove that neural activity and psychic activity are equal. Not merely correlated, but the same thing.

As it stands, our understanding of the physical world cannot explain the existence of consciousness.

>>6465

>All men always believed in God with the same definition.

>Atheist comes in

>"You're all wrong because you use different terms"

Kid...

>>6635

This.

I'm a Muslim born to a Southern Baptist family from Alabama. You're wrong.

One of those few persons who look better with a mustache than without it.

Maybe you're just surrounded by assholes for some reason? As for why, they know they're miserable. They want other to be too, so they're not alone. Preferably they'll find someone to be more miserable than them so they can pretend to be superior.

>How do I tolerate this kind of behaviour?

Don't. Cut off as many assholes as you can and interact as little as possible with the ones you can't get away from or find a way to deal with them.

We are social, hierarchical apes, and so must conform to get on and even survive. Quite simple really.

Most people are arseholes.

That includes you and me.

I'm also in my mid-20's, I haven't been diagnosed with clinical autism, but that was one of the ideas they tried to bounce off me en route to deciding I had "Ptsd".

I think, people don't really have innate personalities as such; only formative experiences and situations that they are placed in.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that the human soul is "Tabula Rasa", but before experience, there's only that a-priori framework presumably instilled by your genome.

If you put a person in a situation where they suffer intensely, then they will act like an asshole.

Modern society basically gives you two options; toe the line or eat shit and die.

When an adult comes to terms with this, it can ruin their outlook forever., especially considering that we all seem to be inescapably trapped therein.

I myself have been cast out by my family, but I also found that cutting them out of my heart was the best thing to do.

They did not want me, so what need had I for them?

Being close to them made me miserable, but so did being parted from them; I had to come to terms with the absurdity of this situation, and opted to embrace separateness.

Now my mother tries to send me money every christmas or birthday, and I tell her no, and that her money is dirty, because she won't even look at or talk to me.

One day she'll probably stop trying; then I'll know I've won, and that her heart is broken.

I guess there isn't really any such thing as an asshole; just bad winners and sore losers.

>>7161

Take the hypothetical state of being perfectly circular. If an object is always varying in it's property of circularity then it is by definition not continuing in a state of perfect circularity. There is only one perfect state with regard to being circular. Now take the human property of being in a state of perfect bliss. If a man is always varying in his state of blissfulness then he by definition cannot be in a continuing state of perfect blissfulness. There is only one state with regard to perfect blissfulness.

>>7163

Why should I accept your presupposition that human states are like geometric shapes? Until you explain why, or present an alternative explanation, you've given no reason not to believe there are indeed differing states of perfect bliss.

>>7164

It seems pretty intuitive to me that bliss only varies along one dimension; more, or less blissful. So it seems that the state of perfect bliss could only be a state of maximal blissfulness. So for a man to be continually perfect with regard to bliss he would have to remain in that one state of maximal bliss.

>>7184

To power

>>6904

why?

>>7056

>fucked up way of showing it

>the perfect justice is screwy cause I can't comprehend perfection

Hmmmm

>>7101

Sorry I was having a moment that day

I can only endure my 'friends' in short doses. One of them makes a clicking sound when he eats and I'd become homicidal if I had to live with that. Fuck, I have misophonia, so why would I ever want to live with anyone?

>>6955

>Fags condemning faggotry

>rare

Pick one

t.fag

>>6760

Hegel would never think that though

>>7008

>implies someone was a faggot

>implies someone important who is dead was a faggot

>does is without evidence

>is a self-confessed faggot

Not suprised. Faggots always love to say everybody else, specialy hostorical figures, are /were faggots. I guess it makes you feel normal or something like that.

>>6204

"How do you know?" is a bigger problem, you idiot. You can sit and focus only on what's before you, declaring it to be all that is, but you're only doing so to stave the existential dread you experience, because you're weak and stupid, from questioning otherwise.

>>7054

What about Christian Solipsism?

"You mean the Christ that exists in my mind because what I think is the only real possibility"

Hegel wins again

>>7090

Atheism is an exclusively christian phenomena. It never arised out of any other religion, and we have a mistake to thank for that back in the 1400s, when nominalism was allowed to win over realism.

>>6950

What Peterson was saying in that first link is similar to that people often say one thing but do another. Which, I hope, is obvious to you. But what he was saying was a bit deeper. That often times people think they believe one thing but their actions show that they do not.

What this man has done is spend a lifetime probing into the unconscious mind looking for answers. He acknowledges that he is also as faulty as everyone else and so instead of proclaiming that he believes what he believes like all you other fools who don't understand that you have a subconscious, he instead analysis his actions to see what it is he really believes. This is why he always says that he acts as though God exists instead of saying that he believes that God exists.

You are just not smart enough to understand him.

>>7128

He has spent a lifetime being religious. You're not smart enough to realize he's deluded like all religitards, and also attacks progressive causes for the sweet Prager University money.

>>7128

>You are just not smart enough to understand him.

You are just too invested in him to see how full of shit he is,

>>7106

God can change the nature of Man.

Nothing else.

The nature of mortality is plasticity and chaos. A man's nature changes innumerable times throughout his life, all in pursuit of an archetypal goal. The human pupa transforming as it matures.

>>7106

what is nature?

>>7115

>nature of a man

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Nature_of_Man

>>7117

nonhuman animals have knowledge as well

'Conception' don't real.

You can define things, then go check if they exist in reality.

You can look at reality, and try to define what you see there.

Neither of these things are conception. The first kind of definition is fully arbitrary. The second kind is almost equally arbitrary, despite making every effort to avoid that fate.

>>4613

this

It's pretty cool hearing Bertrand Russel rip apart Nietzsche's philosophy.

https://youtu.be/HGDZcifLpdA

jan stachniuk, i think

>>4769

I'm Christian myself but never would say the same thing.

Your will is your heart. It is the spirit of oneself.

To me will is ambition, a drive

>>7069

I'm a compatibilist like Aquinas was. Apparently that's an unpopular stance.

what most people call "consciounes"