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/p/ banners

Anybody want to help make some banners for /p/?

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Recent picture thread

Post your most recent picture here whenever you visit /p/

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Hi, anonymous.

I made yet another film development video guide, for those who just want to try it — basic information about filling the film in the tank, developer, temperature and development time, fixer.

I will be grateful for feedback. Thank you!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvsFULXsdPc

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Film Thread

do any of you guys develop your own film?

general film thread

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Bestiality/Zoophilia porn

What it says on the tin! Show your love for animals...

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TESTING TESTING TESTING

IS THIS THING ON

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Contemporary consumer gear thread

If you want to discuss any contemporary consumer gear feel free to do it inside this thread.

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What software does /p/ use?

I myself have been getting into FOSS Photography. Currently use Darktable, because GIMP has shit colour management.
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/p/ is now under new management

I'm quite a busy man working a job that eats up a lot of my spare time and I'm also expecting my first child so I may not be posting all that often but it is my ambition to keep this board clean of brownpills and other spam.

I'm an oldfag who's been in the fashion photography trade for many years. Hopefully I'll be able to contribute meaningfully to the board and not just function as its custodian.

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Contax G2

Am I a hiptard for considering buying a Contax G2 in the year of our lord 2019. If there's a better film rangefinder alternative where would the money be better spent?

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p

photography i like (2)

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Finally decided to bite the bullet and bought an a7III. Was waiting for Panasonic to release something great but instead the S1 turned out to be a bit of a disappointment and frankly I don't have the patience to wait another year or two for there to be a lens/adapter ecosystem worth putting money into.

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DSLR camera under $350

I'm looking to get into photography and filmmaking, but I'm a poorfag, any suggestions?

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The wife

This thread is for pictures of my waifu

>inb4 divorce

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I really do hope none of you fags ever get suckered into taking this guy seriously, or any other chump peddling "microcontrast" snake oil.

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black and white thread

just developed a roll of black and white. heres a pic dump

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So does /p/ like any photography channels or review sites? Stuff like Digitalrev, Lanier or that guy with the baby making hips Matt G?

Most of these guys seem to talk the talk but they're all sort of dysfunctional looking, I guess that does not have an effect on skill but it's hard to trust a guy wearing a studded fedora.

Picture related, his hair line can't be that bad.

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Point and shit confirmed dead

The only question now is of course whether or not this has any impact on the longevity of the DSLR.

They may seem leagues apart and technically speaking there is absolutely no fucking reason to be comparing compacts and full frame cameras but consumer gear has always been a stepping stone for budding enthusiasts to get into proper photography.

The real question is of course whether or not smartphones will incentize the kind of artistic creativity that leads to people wanting better gear to push the boundaries of their aesthetic desires or if they will be able to satisfy that itch to a sufficient degree that they start eating into the sales of actual proper camera systems.

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Random picture thread

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creepy filter

hey /p/ this is a picture I took with an old Chromebook I used to have. I have absolutely no idea how this happened, as I was taking some other pictures along this one and those turned out fine. I just thought this would be the most appropriate place to ask what could have happened to the software that made this happen and if there is a way to replicate it as a filter. Sorry for the time watermark, I used to have the picture without it but I lost it.

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Have you introduced someone else to photography? Did they enjoy it?

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Hello everyone, it's my first time visiting the photography board on 8chan, and I come seeking help.

I've been a photography student in my school for a few years, and I'm now at a point where I must make a senior project to demonstrate what I've learned and my ability to schedule my own work.

I am planning on making a photography book, however, I lack a subject. I live in the metro Detroit area of Michigan, and I was wondering if you folks would be willing to discuss some possibilities for my book with me.
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So I've been going through some shots I've taken during my honeymoon trip in Iceland. Enjoy the dump.

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>Seven hours and a couple beers later

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Pretentious critiques

Let's post shitty photos and critique them like a fine art reviewer.

Rules:

1. You must critique at least one shitty photo before you post your own shitty photo.

2. Only shitty photos allowed.

3. Only pretentious critiques allowed.

4. You must title your photo and/or provide a description along with it.

5. Max one photo per post.

I'll start. I call this photo, "Chestnut Autumn Wishes".

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I'm bad at photography, here are some of my crappy photos, tell me what's bad

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What scanner to get?

Hey guys, glad to see traffic is starting to pick up around here.

Anyhoo, I have a couple of boxes of old family photos that I want to scan and digitize. Any recommendations on a good scanner?

I don't need anything state of the art, just something that can scan at a high quality and isn't to large.

Thanks!

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8chan /p/ IRC

A channel where we can talk about photographs, photography, cameras, scanography, post-processing, Instagram, etc.

irc.rizon.net #/photo/

Don't have an IRC client? Use https://www.mibbit.com/ (Select the server "Rizon") or https://www.rizon.net/chat

pls

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yurup photatoes

cc if you want, feel free to ask questions or post light comments, this is a chan after all.

enjoy, ta

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p

photography i like

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⚠️🍺ℹ️🌿

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Killing the cancer

Shit that found going through my hard drive. Might as well share.

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TEST

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>But have you got photos?

>This gear thread have pushed another photo thread from last page!

>Better go and take some photos!

>Too few photos.

... and whatever /p/ says.

I was photographing from day zero, I never left my camera at home, I never allowed anybody to stop me taking photos, I never was ashamed of taking photos (in any pose), I occasionally go for a photo walk with my expensive gear wherever I want despite the dangers, I find any weather suitable for photos, I do not hesitate asking a stranger for a portrait, I missed only one or two worthy scenes because I doubted they will be good during several years of photographing, I wipe the UV protector with my clothes.

I got a thousand of photos which I strongly like and I am fully satisfied with images I have.

>Hey Anon, I like some of your photos, can you show me more?

Oh, sorry, I do not have intention of showing anything to others and what is more important I can show you all thousand of them and you will only get bored because there is no structure in my photos.

I am the happiest man from those who are not satisfied with photography: my only problem is that I do not know a good way of exposing those loads of photos which I personally like.

Another problem is that photos which I like are mostly subject-centristic.

I have never seen /p/ to teach about arranging photos. I came to a point at which any arrangement is either dumb or does not simplify the matter.

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Here are some gays and gay supporters

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How is a photo like this achieved?

I came across this photo on /fa and I'm curious as to how it came out so nice looking.

I'm assuming that it's from the composition and the color-grading.

There's also something else about it, almost like there's a filter placed on top of it that makes it appear almost like it's vector based. I've never seen a more soothing photo than this.

Does anyone else see what I'm talking about? Anymore photos like this?

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Photography Challenge: Spoopy edition

Hopefully a topic that's a bit less abstract this time.

Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to create a spooky image. If it evokes a sense of mystery or spookiness, or, in general, looks like a place you'd rather not be alone, let's see it. Spooky people, spooky landscapes, spooky cornerstore lots lit only by a long exposure for a dingy old streetlight's orange light.

Bonus points for having winter involved in any way.

Points doubled for it having been made after you see this thread.

Let's have this be less about critique and more about what kind of unique images you can create in some allotted amount of time for yourself. At least until we get bored of the topic.

This is the only image of relevance I've recently taken. Before shooting a graduation ceremony, I ducked into the abandoned halls and found a locked set of doors leading to a creepy hallway. Image is junk because the glass on the door was fogged and didn't allow much light through. Heavily processed to make it not worthless.

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Calm picture thread

Post pictures that are soothing to the eye.

Max 1000 pixels on the longest side or >1MB in size

.JPEG

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New Photos

Post your new shit and shit. Anything is allowed for all I care, this board is dead.

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discord

join our discord:

https://discord.gg/0uiuJvGVT7gXgCfz

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Lomography

Lets talk lomography.

Good? Bad? What is your opinion?

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These are shit but it's better than nothing, right?

Feel free to join in.

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Come and join /p/ discord, so we can all jerk each other off about our a7.

https://discord.gg/0uiuJvGVT7dNvLv8

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What do you guys think of Borut Peterlin?

https://www.youtube.com/user/borutpeterlin

>salt process masterrace

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>his camera can't be used as shoes

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Photography Challenge: Deadpan

The deadpan aesthetic portrays the subject in a deliberately emotionless and otherwise impassive, matter-of-fact manner. Photographs in this style are usually casual, monotone, devoid of emotion, centered, and sharply in focus.

Your challenge is to create a deadpan photo and post it on 8chan. I will start the thread with a few famous examples.

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Motor thread

>Go to 2chan.net/カメラ. 70% gear threads

>Go to 1/2chan /p. 50% gear/ 20% troll/ 110% cluck

>Full chan/p. 2% gear/ 90% dead

Lets fix this Post pictures of Cars, Bikes and what ever else has a motor in it.

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Is there a resource for finding pictures taken with certain camera/lenses besides google? All I can ever find are pictures taken by the companies themselves when I'm really just curious about what normal people have accomplished.

Picture related, damn short film dominates the search results for D7200

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Post your best picture

Hey /p/ post your best picture!


(pic unrelated)
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Street Photography!

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What's with all the EM-10's on this board?

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Tried out new camera over the weekend. Criticism welcome.

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/p/ needs more active. So let's advertise.

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Can you expand an image to a big size without damaging it? or maybe afterwards fix the quality with a program or something? Is there a program for that?

I have a thumbnail (not pic related) that I want to make bigger, is it possible? What is the best solution?

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>tfw when no p gf

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Post your shots with great exposure

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/p/ I need help finding 16mm B&W cartridge film for a Bell & Howell 200EE camera. Where can i buy it in the UK

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Post your film gear

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500px photo walk

Something more recent. Went to a photo walk that was on in my city, Like it or not I am dumping.

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Ruels? Wat r they?

Rules are good only if they correspond to interests of the community.

Discuss and propose any rules in this thread.

Currently here are no rules except global ones.

I propose one rule though: shocking content is prohibited as long as it does not serve artistic intentions.
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Website/Portfolio Thread

Website for your portfolio all platforms welcome.

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>zoomprotogs will never experience this joy

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Pinhole photography

Just hand developed a roll of pinhole photographs and scanned them in. These were taken with a holga 135 pinhole camera on tri-x 400 film. I developed them with fujifilm chemicals. 7 minutes in the developer, 1 minute in the stop bath, 9 minutes fixer, and a 10 minute water wash.

The roll was really overexposed because I miscalculated how long I should shoot each frame for (it was my first time shooting with a holga pinhole). Anyways, here they are.

Also, general pinhole photography thread.

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I'll be in Dublin from late 14th June to early 19th June.

I'd love to have a beer with one of you if you happen to be there too.

I want to go shoot Bloomsday obviously but if you have other suggestions for must-see places or events please tell me.

This is the start of my plan to travel a lot more and worry a lot less.

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lads

where do u guys go to take pics? street photography? nature? im at home and have no inspo.

pic unrelated

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>I don't take "selfies"

>I take self portraits

>*tips beauty dish*

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500px

Share your 500px accounts for feedback and inspiration!

Mine's www.500px.com/cflarsen

Let's share some work!

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What do you guys think about HDR?

Have you made any HDR shots lately? Share if so!

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Pics

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Color thread

How would you achieve this kind of color?

>low quality ancient Streetview frame

Yes, I know.

I'm a color photographer. I am absolutely fascinated with colors and how they blend with shapes and light. I love films, edits, and processes that give a high contrast, deep over-saturation of colors. I also love weird and funky colors.

My favorite times to shoot are when the sun is in the middle of waxing and it happens to be a very bright day; sometimes, if the conditions are just right, and the exact perfect amount of particles are in the air, and the leaves are all in the right place, and you've sacrificed at least 20 beetles, you can get extremely bright colors and funky contrasts. The perfect time to shoot grainy film.

Aside from the question of the thread, what kinds of colors do you like? What kind of film produces your favorite colors? What about camera settings and photo edits?

This is a color thread, motherfucker.

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Who's the fag that owns this board and why isn't he advertising it?

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I shot this and another one in the comments. Feedback welcome
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I think that it is reasonable to have a thread where people will leave notes about anything they want until there are enough people to produce substantial discussion. It is called "check in thread"?

Write about anything what interests you.
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I took some pictures how do they look?

i'm really digging these vsco film presets for lightroom though.

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Experimental photography thread

Kneel before the OTTER OF POWER!

Do you have an idea you've been trying that isn't quite "normal"? Maybe even a little odd or strange or experimental? This is the thread for you. Post 'em!

Two photos are a technique I've been trying light painting class and crystal with LED and Laser light. Some of it has been kind of fun.
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Where can I sell large antique photo prints?

I have a collection of original photo prints by Edward S Curtis, photographer of American West and Native Americans in the late 1800s and early 1900s.

Are there any good niche places to sell them? I'm looking for something other than eBay, if possible.

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I need to discretely take photos in a dark place.

What's a good camera/lens with great low light performance what's also small and concealable?

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Dumping my Fujifilm X-E1 files
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More pics.

Been a while since I made a thread I guess because there's snow in some of these.

Got a job and lost it again in the meantime.

Life sure is grand.

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School me on product photography. What could I have done better? Canon T5i, Leica Elmarit R 28mm, 100 ISO, f8, 4 second exposure.
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How does this thing work /p/
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Helios thread?

Helios thread

Soft images, great colour, amazing BOKEH
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post your photos

For make benefit glorious photography board
here is first photo
taken while on holiday in Bavaria
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"Body too short."
I didn't come here for manlet shaming :(
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Repeating photo thread #2

Depending on community you communicate in you may hear this never or quite oftenly: you can use not only wide angle lens to shoot landscapes!

This week time you need to take a photo of a landscape using 35mm-equivalent focal length bigger than 51,93mm. The bigger focal length is the cooler you are. Cropping is considered as increase of equivalent focal length, stitching - as decrease of focal length.

Picrelated was done at 200mm equiv.

The longer it takes you to make a submission the more you may consider yourself an artist. But let it be limited with one month.
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I have a question. I'd like to shoot videos for a youtube channel (going to teach my hobby) and I also love sky watching at night. Taking VIDEO, not pictures or time lapse, but video.

I understand that you need a camera that has sensitive low-light features for it to be able to actually see the stars in good quality. The youtube stuff will be easy, any camera can handle that. The reason im leaning towards a gopro 4 black is that it's small, compact, good battery, and it advertises some special improved low-light night time settings. Ive seen the videos of its night-lapse which is beautiful but im looking to capture video. Like a 30 seconds clip of a shooting star and/or satellite.

Can anyone begin to point me in the right direction? Thank you
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D lievered.

The body was too short or empty.
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Do you guy's get a chance to take pictures of qt's?
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Agfa APX100 found in a bulk loader at a goodwill store. It smells like old people so I assume it's old and poorly stored.
Shot it at ISO 25.
Developed in D76 1+3 for 18 minutes at 20 degrees C.
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Weekly Photo Thread - #1

First in a long line hopefully. Please suggest topics for future challenges. Any suggestions for improvement at all would be beneficial, really.
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I never did this on 4clam because everyone there if a faggot but I am gonna post some OLD AS FUCK images I took on my cellphone that turned out pretty dam good.
These are unedited and I had no knowledge of photography before hand.
Feel free to post some of your early works too.

this first image was the first image i even took on my cellphone and I still think it is amazing.
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Dumping Light Painting Series

Hi 8chan /p/. Let me say that i mostly lurked /p/ over there and didn't like posting because people are unreasonable assholes (for the lulz) but I hated it.
I'm trying out here to see what it's like.

I'm working on a series of light pained images of outdated technology called "Retro Techno". Each is about 15-20 exposures blended. U guise like? Please keep n mind this is my first real attempt at serious light painting.

I used a cable release and just kept the shutter open until I was done painting each section. I used a small Single LED flashlight and an iPhone light.

1/4 Panasonic Portable Television
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Project

Dear fags, for a project i'm looking for loads of Landscapes, realistic (so no stock images) would even prefer amateur preferably also no animals or people or/and if anyone else knows where to get a database for google streetview images
thx
inb4 shitposting
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Lets get a guide thread going, dump what you got.
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/vid/ Video General - #1

A thread for those working with video or film. Be it Narrative, documentary, or videography. Feel free to discuss technique, share your work, and debate gear.

Please suggest any changes to be made to the thread form, and if we should have a recommended gear list as on halfchans' /vid/ threads.
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Can someone that knows post-processing make this picture look good?

https://mega.co.nz/#!sodmTCjA!30aqlw870LlC3YS_bz_FecZntW_Xf40b5srmuGJbock
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Colour scheme

Do you ever aim at making the result of your work to represent the reality in terms of colour and tonality?

Those who use film get this by default but digital tech is another story as it is today. Do you ever miss what film gives or you are perfectly fine with what you get with digits?
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damn

Shit guys this board is even slower than the old p.
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Lost and Found

Can we get some interesting photography under the theme of lost and found? OC encouraged.
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/p/ on 8chan

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at The Art Institute of Chicago, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on art galleries, and I have over 300 confirmed picture sales. I am trained in gorilla photography and I’m the top black and white developer in the entire US. You are nothing to me but just another hipster photo wannabe. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your Instagram. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can photograph you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my iPhone. Not only am I extensively trained in large format photography, but I have access to the entire arsenal of medium format digital cameras from the local Art School and I will use them to their full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.