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A WARNING TO ALL NEW USERS IF YOU ARE NOT A HIKIKOMORI I WILL BAN YOU!! People who are going to work or school are not Hikikomori There are many people on here who can not leave their home Please choose your topic with consideration IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN AT HOME INSIDE YOUR ROOM FOR AT LEAST 6 MONTHS OR MORE THEN DON'T POST HERE!

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a0108b No.2765 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Have any other hikkis here ever thought of or tried to commit suicide in the past??. It's been 10 years almost 11 and almost nothing i do makes me happy anymore and i have little to no motivation to do anything with my time spent in isolation anymore. I've tried asking people online about working from home but most people say that's not realistic and that i should just go outside and get over it. I honestly can't take it anymore and if i don't find anything to help motivate myself soon suicide seems like a good option i guess. But i would be a lot happier if i could just earn some money without leaving my room or having the motivation to at least do something instead of feeling like i'm completely drained of life to be honest i'm crying while typing this and i can't take it anymore can any other hikkis relate??.

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7afcc7 No.6941

>>6940

good luck

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aeacdd No.7276

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I wish i could travel to Japan go into aokigahara forest and end my life been thinking about it recently and it just seems peaceful to be honest.

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7b4db0 No.7277

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Same old story, but I've also thought about killing myself, practically every day for many, many years now. Funny how some people get up and think about the weather or what they're going to have to eat whereas, with me, I just think about how much I want to rush headlong into the arms of the reaper, whispering in that dry ancient ear, "Here, I am. Here, I am. Now please, put a fucking end to it.". More than just that though, all I can really think about in the many moments of excruciating restlessness & pain that slowly, painfully, and relentlessly drag themselves throughout all the days of my life, is what in fucking hell is it gonna take for me to finally kill myself. I know about DNMs (darknet markets), and I know how to use them. I could get some Nembutal or Fentanyl, or hell, maybe even a fucking shotgun without too much hassle whatsoever. But I won't. I could very easily just put my head down on the active railroad tracks not, but a quick stroll away from here and patiently wait for a train to flatten my head to mush. But I won't. I could also slash my wrists, followed by peacefully bleeding out in a warm bath, and let that be that. But I won't. And why, you may ask? Because I'm afraid. That's it. That's ultimately all that's holding me back. I'm just a cowering sack of shit who's too afraid of the dark. Of being alone in an endless void, screaming into an infinite blackness forever. The act of dying is bad enough, but the terrifying potential of the unknown, when I really sit there and think about it and what form it may take, fills me with dread and paralyzes me completely. Whether it was pills, or a gun, or a train, or even a common razor, there would always be that moment where one stands at the precipice between life and death (pills in hand ready to be swallowed, loaded gun in mouth with finger on the trigger, train barreling down the tracks towards you etc.) and that precipice yawns in front of me like the Marianas Trench. So much so that I recoil, like the ego, DNA based biological programming, and just good old fashioned cowardice want me to. Only to endure more of the same. To suffer & suffer & suffer only to inevitably die someday anyway. I don't want to suffer anymore. It doesn't make any sense to wait for, let alone to fear, something that's going to happen whether my retarded reptilian brain wants it to or not. The thought of the jagged, tortuous nature of life pricking and pulling at my flesh for yPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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7b4db0 No.7278

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>>7277

(cont)

It also bears mentioning that family is certainly no barrier to me killing myself. At. All. Since, after all, I'd be dead so what difference would it make how they'd feel given that I wouldn't even exist anymore? I don't mean to sound cold or cruel or vicious when I say that, but it's not like I can really control how they'd feel and sticking around for their sake alone, despite being in agony, would be foolish. If you feel differently that's fine, but I don't. If I had the guts to kill myself right this instant, even if that meant having to do it right in front of my parent's eyes (as part of the hypothetical catch of finally being able to do it), I'd proceed without hesitation. Their feelings wouldn't amount to a hill of beans when compared against seizing true freedom, frankly. Controversial opinion, but, as far as I'm concerned, anyone who says that family is the only thing holding them back, are just lying to themselves, and are just trying to find an easy excuse to cover up for their own cowardice and lack of balls to pull the trigger.

The real answer though, as much as it pains me to continually realize it, is that there is no answer for someone like me. Not really. Often my most common fantasies in regards to suicide have been those in which my death happens suddenly and without my knowledge. Examples being the more common variety such as dying unexpectedly in my sleep somehow, or, in my case, more fantastically remote possibilities like a meteorite streaming through the atmosphere and blasting me through the head from the ceiling. I've also fantasized about being struck with a life ending illness of some kind. On a similar note, it would also be nice, in a way, if I could take the terminal disease of someone who still wants to live. After all, they get what they want, I get what I want, and I get to really help somebody for once in my life just before I head out the door. What's not to like? Besides the impending doom/pain associated with the disease, of course. I've also fantasized a lot about somebody else killing me, thereby saving me from having to do it myself. A home invader, a trigger happy cop, a professional assassin hired to kill mePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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7b4db0 No.7280

>>7278

(cont)

>>6318

>Every day is the exact same thing; eat, sleep, listen to the same tunes, play the same games and staring at the same ceiling. The only thing I enjoy these days is sleeping, waking up fucking sucks as its back to same tired routine and feeling more exhausted then I did before falling asleep. video games just remind me how shit I am at everything, my lack of hobbies and motivation to learn new ones a constant reminder of my total lack of meaningful skills.

>I don't have the will or strength to "fix" myself and even if I did, whats left of life to enjoy?

You said it, mayne. My life in a nutshell. Curled up in my bed, in the middle of the night, just weeping at the awfulness of it all. As an aside, I find myself crying a lot more than I used to these days. Then again, I guess I have a lot of reasons to.

>>6365

>I never understood why people say these things in order to cheer others up. Confirming that there are others out there in equally shitty situations isn't exactly a good thing, neither does it change the individual's situation.

Yes, I know what you mean. If anything, it just serves as an exclamation mark to my own hopelessness. It seems everybody is either depressed or anxious these days which, to me, just makes me feel even worse. I'd rather be part of a rare minority since, at least then, there'd be more of a chance of someone helping me, while also not feeling like my pain is as common as dishwater. That can't happen if everyone's drowning in the same sea of shit. I just can't help, but feel like a peon in my suffering. "Oh, you're in pain? Well fuck you, so am I. Wanna swap stories 'buddy'?" In the end, no one cares. It's a shitty world and wePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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004e45 No.163 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

ITT post and discuss any books, movies, or other media relating to hikikomoriism.

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d15364 No.7270

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Watched this a while ago. The guy wanders around a lot, but I seem to recall the narrator mentioning things very relevant to hikikomori life in spots.

>>6736

I've seen this film mentioned a number of times. Look interesting, I guess, but I don't have the wherewithal to watch it. Last film I watched was like 3-4+ months ago now. Something to keep in mind when I do have the energy again, though.

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7908ac No.7272

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mob psycho just had a minor hikikomori character. even said the word.

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d15364 No.7273

>>7270

Un Homme Qui Dort. A 25-year-old male student in Paris becomes indifferent to the world around him, and subsequently feels a strong sense of alienation and hopelessness.

>Narrator: It is on a day like this one, a little later, a little earlier, that you discover, without surprise, that something is wrong, that you don't know how to live and that you never will. Something has broken. You no longer feel some thing which until then fortified you. The feeling of your existence, the impression of belonging to or being in the world, is starting to slip away from you. Your past, your present and your future merge into one. You are 25 years old, you have 29 teeth, three shirts and eight socks, 500 francs a month to live on, a few books you no longer read, a few records you no longer play. You don't want to remember anything else. Here you sit, and you only want to wait, just to wait until there's nothing left to wait. You go back to your room, you undress, you slip between the sheets, you turn out the light, you close your eyes. Now is the time when dream-women, too quickly undressed, crowd in around you, the time when you reread ad nauseam books you've a read a thousand times before, when you toss and turn for hours without getting to sleep. This is the hour when your eyes wide open in the darkness, you hand groping towards the foot of the narrow bed in search of an ashtray, matches, a last cigarette, you calmly measure the sticky extent of your unhappiness. Unhappiness did not swoop down on you, it insinuated itself almost ingratiatingly. It meticulously impregnated your life, your movements, the hours you keep, your room, it took possession of the cracks in the ceiling, of the lines in your face in the cracked mirror, of the pack of cards; it slipped furtively into the dripping tap on the landing, it echoes in sympathy with the chimes of each quarter-hour from the bell of Saint-Roch. How many times you have repeated the same amputated gesture, the same journey's that lead nowhere? All you have left to fall back on are your tuppeny-halfpenny boltholes, your idiotic patience, the thousand and one detours that always lead you back unfailingly to your starting point. All that counts is your solitude: whatever you do, whePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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d15364 No.7274

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>>6404

I like keep my space quite clean mostly since, being that my room may as well be my entire universe and is the place where I spend all my time & energy, I'd rather it not be a festering dung heap. Any and all food I bring in here, I eat on a plate on top of my TV table. The minute I finish I immediately leave my room and put the plate away in our kitchen's dishwasher. I also only drink bottled plastic water, of which I usually have a few sitting neatly on a side table nearby. When I'm done with one I crush it down and throw into my garbage bin, to eventually be emptied out later. No food or water ever comes close to my main computer desk which, aside from a light layer of dust, is essentially spotless. Aside, from the odd pillow or blanket being strewn about, there's also not all that much loose clutter in here either.

Despite all that, I wouldn't really classify myself as being an obsessive neat freak. Just because I'm not a slob doesn't mean I'm Howard Hughes scrubbing the skin off his hands all the sudden. Be that as it may, I did used to suffer quite a bit from my many random OCD related rituals and, sometimes, still do. My OCD used to mainly manifest in the form of thought rituals where I'd need to think of three good thoughts to get rid of a bad thought. The thoughts themselves usually revolved around one of my many irrational fears/phobias. Sometimes it would be as arbitrary as having watched a scary movie or played a scary game and having something from that stick in my head for ages afterwards (like that one scene from Looper where that guy is having all his limbs disappear). In the case of Looper, to stop the panic I'd think of three other time travel movies that weren't as scary (for me, anyway) like BTTF, Star Trek IV, and The Terminator. Unfortunately, doing this would only embed the negative thought further as I'd finish thinking of three good thoughts only to think of what was upsetting me which then followed with me being force to redo the thought ritual and so on and so forth. The only physical manifestation of these thoughts would appear as me often resisting the urge to swallow my spit before I could make three full repeats of three good thoughts and then swallowing to serve as almost an exclamatPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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d15364 No.7275

>>7274

I've also experienced palpable moments of "Harm OCD" as well (the fear that your thoughts will lead you to spontaneously enact physical harm to those around you). I've never felt this way towards my family, thankfully, and it has, essentially, just been something relegated to the few times I've been outside within last 12 years. It would usually only present itself when I'd be forced into a crowded area or, worse, be in a position where I'd need to interact with a stranger. I'd often find myself with the overwhelming fear that I'd give into this enticing urge to scream at the top of my lungs, or go sprinting like a madman with my arms flailing or even, in some instances, physically assault the stranger in front of me. As if I'd completely lose control of myself and do something I absolutely didn't want to do. Like laying in the chair at the dentist's office and feeling like I'm just going to leap up and jam a drill in someone's eye. The urge itself can be so strange. Unbelievably strong, yet also undetectably subtle. For a while I had no idea this was related to OCD, since my thought rituals never came with any sort of bizarre urges to act out physically. For the longest time, I just assumed it was latent psychotic tendencies and that I was slowly becoming a deranged maniac. Luckily, it was fairly easy to ignore given that, again, I very rarely leave the house. I remember hearing a story a long time ago about this woman who had to hide the knives in her house because, otherwise, she was terrified of the possibility that she'd end up spontaneously stabbing her husband to death. Kinda similar to what I felt in my own way, frankly.

I've also sometimes experienced a variant of Harm OCD except, strangely enough. towards my physical possessions. In those times, the anxiety/fear can be quite unpleasant. It feels like all I'd have to do is lose myself for a split second. Just long enough for me to throw my wireless mouse against my monitor, or do something equally disastrous. The feeling of panicked precariousness is constant and unbearable. Like a part of me wants to fuck myself over in the most heinous way possible. Again though, it comes and go. Just like a lot of things to a deranged mind, I suppose.

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ae53ae No.7023 [Open thread]

Have any hikis on here ever done the piss bottle thing or do you leave your room to use the bathroom?

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3a7b00 No.7057

Yes, I had to start recently because my sister moved back in and the 1 bathroom is overused. Due to moisture damage and mold there are lots of other overpowering smells to mask the piss so I can't tell if they smell or not, but I doubt it since they are capped and the room ventilates with a window a couple times every week. I am more disgusted by the sweat that accumulates in bed at night. There is no way to contain it. Living in the tropics is hellish.

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848082 No.7058

>>7023

Never.

>>7044

>I have my own bathroom.

Nice.

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ae53ae No.7218

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>>7053

>Same. That and a slot for food & water to be passed through to me & back again, along with a pneumatic chute for disposal of garbage. I'm not sure I'd ever leave my room if I had those things. If for nothing else, at least it would be convenient.

Same here

>I've never understood how can one can be a true hikikomori (as in they never, ever leave their room) unless they'd then also be willing to piss in bottles and shit in buckets and or bags to accomplish it. Which, as you already mentioned, is probably one of the most disgusting things I can imagine. I mean, god damn, just use the fucking bathroom. Is there actually reports of people doing this, or is it just a meme? If there is, then man. Hikikomori or not, people like that should be shot out of a high velocity cannon towards the sun. I don't mean to sound judgemental, it's just that I'm pretty obsessive when it comes to keeping my own space nice & clean and I absolutely can't stand or wrap my head around slobs who treat their rooms like crap. I'll never understand all those pics out there of hikikomori who are content sitting in a pile, or even a mountain, of their own trash. Personally, it's enough to make me gag just looking at it, but whatever. To each their own, I guess. I'm just tired of how associated it is with being a hikikomori.

Those kind of extreme cases of the hikikomori condition are actually extremely rare according to research and studies done in Japan on current and former hikikomori people the majority of hikikomori even though they are mostly housebound and spend all of their time in their bedrooms still go outside occasionally such as at night to the grocery store or a 24 hour convenience store to buy necessities for a walk and so on hell i am currently learning Japanese and i have had the opportunity to talk to some Japanese hikikomori people on some other sites and what most of them have told me is that even though they live with their parents and spend all of their time in their bedroom at home nearly every single day they still go outside like to the store for a walk to the dentiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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76fc30 No.7243

I started doing it because I didn't want to wake my family up by flushing the toilet late at night. Plus, it's comfy. Eventually I stopped after I accidentally took a sip out of a piss bottle thinking it was carbonated water, because the plastic was tinted and I wasn't paying attention.

>>7046

If you use plastic bottles and make sure you keep the cap on tight, they shouldn't smell. I found that if you keep them long enough they will shrivel up (not sure what the chemistry behind that is), which means it should be almost airtight. Dumping them out after is really disgusting though; I had to hold my breath for the whole time.

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acf484 No.7262

I live with my parents, and at times my anxiety gets so bad I just want them to forget that I exist, I don't want them to hear a door open, or a toilet flush and have something spark in them. I'll piss in empty water bottles, and then clean them out the next day, I never let them accumulate and I empty them out when night comes.

It's part of a cycle when my anxiety and sense of shame gets really really bad.

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3be51d No.7256 [Open thread]

So I have been living at my parents house for about a year and a half now. I'm old, old compared to most hikkis here, and I have also lived a bit. I've been playing a lot of pokemon, I recently bought all the old GBA games and connectors, DS, pokemon bank etc. I wanted to get a living dex on my own, but there is a nagging internal feeling.

I'm drunk right now. I used to go to a lot of AA meetings, but honestly I wanted to see if I should live my life with alcohol or without it. I went to an AA meeting before I went to the bar. All I know is that it is very very powerful. Alcohol changes your whole way of existing. Well I got drunk. Blessings to everyone here, it's very painful to be alone, i would be surprised if there were a greater pain. I wish you all well.

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ea5607 No.7258

I used to be very very against alcohol and would never even imagine drinking. To me, it only brought negatives and was one of the few negative things I could easily resist. Recently though I have started thinking maybe its not so bad. I haven't drank a whole lot but idk its not like like I really have a reason to not drink anyway. It could be just because I feel so brain dead bored but it feels kinda good to be drunk. Probably gonna do it more.

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2bb39b No.7261

>>7256

>living dex

I wish you the best of luck on your endeavor, anon. I'm pretty sure you'll need to trade for some eventmons; if it's any help, I think halfchan's Pokemon board has regular trade threads.

>alcohol

I don't think I could ever drink. The idea of losing my judgement and self-control, even temporarily, terrifies me. I don't know what I'd do and I don't want to know.

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818b6a No.7127 [Open thread]

I'm not really part of the world, of society. I'm just a sort of passive viewer of life, not really engaged with any of it. At most I'll post on an imageboard or talk on IRC, but beyond that I'm nowhere except in a book. And Lately I've felt disassociated from everything. For example, I can't watch any visual media, be it a movie, show, video game, or an anime due to the fact that not only do the interactions seem contrived but they're also so absurd, they don't feel real in any sense. Everything I see seems like a parody, every person I encounter (online usually) that acts emotionally I'm so surprised by it I feel like it itself is a show, an act, and I can't possibly understand them. I'm slowly losing the ability to connect with people, be it online or in some visual media. My saving grace is books where characters feel the most real, and the subject matter interesting. Why do my books seem more real than what surrounds me?

Do you feel as detached from everything as me? It's not "everything is meaningless" as in nihilism but there's just this overwhelming sense of a loss of understanding, of people seemingly completely alien and foreign, where it's just you with your anxiety isolated from any interaction that would give you a kind of human connection, be that online discourse or visual media. I don't know if this is a problem really, or just a concluding state due to the nature of hikikomori isolation. I've been a hikki for 3 or 4 years now, but this past month something drastically changed for no apparent reason. My medication is stable, there hasn't been any life-changing events, I have money (SSI), so I don't know what happened but I'm disconnected. You?

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445779 No.7215

>>7214

>Anyway, just think about how annoying eating actually is. It's a huge waste of time, and your life would be much better if you didn't have to do it.

Naw I love eating, it's literally the best part of my day and I try to do it as much as possible. I'm a true glutton through and through.

>diet advice

Like all fat people I've been on a hundred diets and I'l do a hundred more. I've gained and lost hundreds of pounds on multiple occasions. I fucking despise being fat, and fat people in general. I view it as a physical manifestation of weakness. I think I'l stop being fat in the near future when I stop having money to pay for excessive food.

>I think you are probably prone to addiction in general. Definitely don't drink alcohol.

I don't think I'm prone to addiction. I drink alcohol occasionally, and certainly had times in my life where i got blackout drunk ever night. I have no urge to drink though. I'm completely neutral towards alcohol. I've tried opiate pills and went off them with little to no urge to continue. I wouldn't even say I'm addicted to mmo's, as I constantly stop playing them when there is nothing left to do. I'm just trying to pass the time.

>Sleeping is terrible as well, and everything makes it difficult for me so it's even worse.

I fucking love sleeping. I try to get 12 hours a day and if it was possible I'd sleep forever. When you sleep 16 hours a day it really fucks with your sense of time, its one of the most comfy feelings i've ever felt. Not knowing or caring about time.

> I have just made a tunnel from the ocean all the way to hell

I haven't played terraria since it was released but didn't hell not allow water? Like the water would just disappear near the hell realm.

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f1855e No.7219

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>>7210

>Mindset

As I've heard so often when looking into the matter that can, indeed, be a large deciding factor in how one's trip plays out. The fact of the matter is though that, while it's true I feel like complete shit most of the time (which itself certainly doesn't do me any favors), it's that semi-total loss of control over myself which makes me panic every time. I have an intense need to dominate the experience and have complete control over every facet of it. Letting go and just being at the mercy of whatever comes feels downright impossible, which, naturally, is why I proceed to fight it, which then leads to the aforementioned, debilitating panic. I've sometimes thought that maybe it's because, on some level, I'm clinging so hard to my own pain that when I start to feel it recede, I freak out, since I feel like I'm losing the only piece of my identity I have. I don't know. Like I said already, I'll probably give it another try at some point and keep working at it, but it's discouraging to know how much of an impassable barrier dealing with my own bullshit is turning out to be.

As an aside, I've always found it hilarious how, according to most people out there, someone with "pre-existing mental health conditions" (like extreme anxiety, OCD, or depression, such as with me for instance) should never even go near marijuana, or most other popular drugs for that matter. So essentially, the people who could use these kinds of things the most shouldn't or, depending on their physiology/psychology, flat out can't use them, whereas some brainless partying moron who hasn't suffered an ounce of emotional/mental pain in their entire life and, consequently, needs them the least, is paradoxically perfectly suited to use them. If you're happy or contented you should use them. If you're not, you shouldn't. So basically someone like me is irredeemably fucked in such an infuriating equation. Great. Superb. Wonderful.

Both times I vaped, I was using a rather popular indica strain, meant to relax (what a joke), called Purple Kush. The oil based edible was just pure THC, which in retrospect, may as well have been like drinking a bottle of 192 proof alcohol, when considering my ownPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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f1855e No.7220

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>>7219

(Continued from above….)

>In a way, what I want is to completely melt and become one with someone else, so I can't be that attached to the self.

I've always loved the idea of that as well, and have fantasized about something similar many times. Being fluidically connected to someone else and having our skulls, bones, muscles pass through each other like jello. No secrets, no fears, everything laid bare. Fusing together to form something new. In my case, the Great Link of the Founders from DS9 comes to mind and more specifically how Odo could link with another of his kind and completely lose himself euphorically in it.

>I only do it in games that I like a lot, if I care enough

Same here, although, even after all this time, I sometimes find myself going after achievements I'd otherwise rather not bother with. For the most part however, I just ignore them.

My poison used to be the PS trophy system. When I "retired", as it were, I had 18 000+ trophies, 300+ platinums, 700+ ultra rare trophies (one of the highest globally at the time), and a completion rate of over 97%. Eventually I hit a breaking point and just couldn't do it anymore. Since then I've pretty much exclusively been playing on PC.

>she was miserable to begin with, so she would just be like that possibly for the rest of her life if she didn't find anyone else.

Fair enough, but, personally, I still think that misery was only enhanced by their meeting. Call it my own little complex, or whatever, but I just can't help, but see relationships, of any form, as being vehicles for further harm to take place. The best, and only, answer being to avoid it. If there's one right thing I've done in my life it's at least been that. To do as little harm as possible and to remain in the grandstands of philosophical & worldly detachment, having bothered as few people as possible witPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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19678d No.7254

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>>7214

>I also started eating once a day because I could play more games for longer periods of time and marathon more anime if I didn't waste time on that, and that trained my mind to not care about food anymore.

>Still eating once a day for the most part whether that's healthy or not

I also lost a ton of weight about a year ago just by eating one meal a day and removing all the sugar laden shit from my diet. Which, in my case, wasn't really that much since, even when I was a fat ass, I absolutely hated the continually recurring bothersome chore of having to eat (still do) and never had soda, or most kinds of sweets, junk food & pastries, since I hated the taste of 90% of it. The worst thing that kept me fat by far, personally speaking, was chocolate milk and, more or less, having a glass of it after every meal. Just dropping that alone made a huge difference to me and I probably would've been at a much more stable weight years prior had I just gotten rid of it sooner. The only thing I drink nowadays is water and, occasionally, some almond milk when I feel like having a bowl of oatmeal. I also dropped eating any kind of bread as well and haven't had a slice of bread or a single piece of fast food/junk food in over a year. My Mom makes me tons of healthy meals these days (really came to like brussel sprouts & broccoli funnily enough, after finally trying them for the first time) and, at this point, you honestly couldn't even pay me to eat the disgusting slop I used to pollute myself with. Modern mass produced "food" is simply poison and proper home cooked meals, like the kind I enjoy, are really the only answer. It also helps that I have an extremely weak digestive system which, more often than I'd like, made eating junk food/fast food a literal hell, since it'd be left up to a coin toss whether or not I'd then end up getting crippling gut cramps later on. The kind that have you bowled over on the floor, pretty much totally incapacitated. Increasingly visceral pain such as that, can be, as I found, a wonderful motivator for change.

The idea of Misaki also really motivated me to change since I felt, and still do, that if she were real, I'd need to be as slim Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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19678d No.7255

File: 0a84df026c91f8b⋯.mp4 (3.46 MB,1280x720,16:9,Everything's Shit.mp4)

>>7254

(Continued from above....)

>just think about how annoying eating actually is. It's a huge waste of time, and your life would be much better if you didn't have to do it.

Yes, I agree completely and felt much the same throughout my entire life. When gaming I'd, very often, push myself to the point of starvation, since eating felt like too much of an inconvenient interruption. To this day, I still do this. Sometimes even going 6 hours after getting up before I eventually eat. It baffles me why I was ever fat at all, even when I ate like shit, since I've been doing such things for years. Hell, I remember when I was grinding out the platinum for FEAR 2 and went 10 hours without eating, just so I could keep boosting. I then repeated this every day for two weeks until I was finally finished with it. I did, more or less, the same thing with many other games all those years back. By rights, I should've been a skeleton, but I guess one should never underestimate the effect a bad diet can have, even when you barely eat. One of the main reasons I'd want to transplant my brain into a robot body is just so I'd never have to eat, drink, defecate, or get sick/sore ever again. I'm tired of being a vulnerable meatbag, but, then again, I'd much rather be a dead one.

>Sleeping is terrible as well

Out of all the body's annoying needs, sleep is the one I don't mind. For me, sleeping is the fucking best and the #1 thing I look forward to daily. If I'm not asleep, then I'm wishing I was asleep. Definitely one of the biggest perks of being a hikikomori is having the luxury to sleep for as long as I want. Only wish I could sleep more, since it's as close to death as I can get without committing suicide, which is another thing I'd love to do, if I weren't such a pussy, that is.

>>7228

>I don't trust anything, and I don't believe in perfect security

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a8b393 No.6801 [Open thread]

Lets recommend fiction where there's a strong theme of social isolation, solitude, avoidant inclinations, alienation etc. So far these books, which I've yet to buy (but will have by christmas), seem to meet the criteria (feel free to openly judge):

>Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

>Child of God by Cormac McCarthy

>The Tartar Steppe by Dino Buzzati

>No Longer Human by Osamu Dazai

>Deadeye Dick: A Novel by Kurt Vonnegut

>The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka

>Nausea by Jean-Paul Sartre

>Steppenwolf: A Novel by Hermann Hesse

> Hunger by Knut Hamsun

Perhaps over time we hikkis could create our own chart full of recommended books that deal with our world.

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5cde71 No.7074

File: 0617f1910504ecc⋯.jpg (267.63 KB,800x600,4:3,BOOKS.jpg)

Picking up reading again, especially reading Pynchon, has made me aware of just how poor my reading comprehension is. And I read abysmally slow, as I read word by word, not chunks of words or sentences, and I subvocalize. I don't think there is any way to improve besides reading a lot so I'm trying to cut out porn and IRC so that I fill most of my time up with reading but I run into the problem of sustaining my attention, which again I think the only way to improve is by just paying attention for longer and longer periods of time. I'd really like if by the end of the year I was a better reader than I currently am.

Currently reading Vineland, next will be Inherent Vice, then The Crying of Lot 49, and then V. After I'll either take a break from Pynchon or read the rest of his works.

What have you guys been reading?

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77ce24 No.7132

>>7074

>Currently reading Vineland, next will be Inherent Vice, then The Crying of Lot 49, and then V. After I'll either take a break from Pynchon or read the rest of his works.

>What have you guys been reading?

>

I'm straying from the alienation theme, but I really liked Life of a Counterfeiter. It's a short story about a painter who counterfeited the works of a more successful artist, and could never find any happiness in himself.

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77ce24 No.7164

>>6946

I just started reading Stoner, and I can already see his attitude of detachment right from the beginning. Hopefully I can keep myself focused on finishing it.

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cfeea7 No.7176

File: 1ca4b97b171609e⋯.jpg (23.22 KB,220x305,44:61,Woodcut_Schachnovelle_Stef….jpg)

"The Royal Game (also known as Chess Story; in the original German Schachnovelle, "Chess Novella") is a novella by Austrian author Stefan Zweig" deals with a guy who is put into an isolated prison cell with no human contact and it deals with his slow descend into madness and dealing with his boredom.

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8e9ce6 No.7206

>>7074

Nice, I just finished reading Vineland a while back. It's definitely a good book, and Pynchon's style and technique is really entertaining. Best of luck at becoming a better reader.

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cf01d1 No.6834 [Open thread]

I'm literally losing my mind like i can't enjoy anything ever not one piece of media or anything that other hikkis enjoy and i'm just spending my days trying to find something that i can enjoy instead of enjoying something. I just literally dropped an anime half way after getting sick of it..

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c618b1 No.6870

>>6834

The computer gives access to an entire universe (the internet), but it still feels like "just the computer" after some time. Everything feels the same.

Try to do something that doesn't involve the computer, like drawing or learning an instrument.

These activities will develop a connection with your own body.

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c859b0 No.6874

the only things I participate in are things I enjoy, and that's almost never been anime.

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3b5498 No.6943

>>6834

I have the same problem, I can never finish anything,if I even start anything at all.

Something I've been doing recently though is trying to get myself to want to play a game or watch a movie due to someone else having enthusiasm for it.

As an example, I was watching a guy on youtube called Jordan Underneath who made a video about how he loves Abes oddysee, and by the end of the video he had me wanting to play it. so i did.

and every time I'm playing it and my mind starts to dull again i just re-watch the video and i enjoy it again.

its been a month and i still haven't got through the game though, so the tactic is a work in progress. ha

so maybe use that trick with other things, look up retrospective videos on movies and games and see if it helps you enjoy things a little more.>>6834

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3f9726 No.7038

File: 500093a9b2ac12e⋯.jpg (247.39 KB,1500x768,125:64,1478263235212-2.jpg)

I think I've watched less than 10 movies in just the last couple years. I torrented "The Wailing" a couple weeks ago (a South Korean horror that looks quite interesting) and am still trying to work up the wherewithal to watch it. I was also in the middle of watching Ergo Proxy about 6-8 months ago, but never managed to finish it. Haven't watched any anime/TV shows since. Pretty much the only thing I can still do consistently is play video games, but only because I really, really force myself to. Otherwise, I'd just sleep, browse the internet and stare off into space.

>>6836

>but I pretend that I like it, or I just complete something for the sake of completing it. Sure, I'm fake, but it's better than simply always being idle and experiencing nothing.

Bingo. Literally me for the last 5 years. Sometimes I get some genuine enjoyment out of something, but very often it's exactly as you describe and I'm just playing/finishing whatever it is I'm preoccupied with just for the sake of doing it and nothing else. I'd love to live life as a statue, but the boredom/restlessness that follows as a result, in addition to being forced to sit with my shitty worthless thoughts buzzing about my head like a swarm of flies, makes it impossible. Gaming at least allows me some distraction and fleeting sense of "productiveness" from it all despite how dissatisfying it ultimately is. I also won't deny that I have some weird maladaptive urge to finish as many games as I can before I die, otherwise I feel like I'm "wasting" my time as a NEET, since there's so many classic games out there I haven't played yet. Treating the hobby like an obsessive checklist certainly doesn't do me any favors, but I can't help it. The fact is that there's just no escape. I either sit and do nothing and feel the restless pain from that, or I force myself to play games and feel the different, yet just as palpable anhedonic, joyless pain from that. What a way to go. Oh well.

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6d644e No.7178

File: a56360b465fced7⋯.jpg (13.6 KB,220x283,220:283,7025c4aa5e174953492dbc4647….jpg)

>>6834

i frequently suffer from the same problem whe there is no videogame/anime/chan that is interesting to me and there is nothing to occupy my mind with. my solution usually is to pick up a hobby and so far i have gone trough pretty much every common hobby you can have, like drawing, collecting boardgames (i dont have anyone to play with) including warhammer and magic the gathering, photography (mostly macro since i dont go outside), reading, fitness and health, cooking and nutrition (this is what im doing right now) i think the best out of all of them was drawing since being introspective and introverted gives you a lot of ideas and i will probably return to drawing when cooking gets boring. the problem with my solution is that i usually need quite a bit of money (more than videogames) but i guess you can do cheaper if you stick to the basics.

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d556e7 No.2979 [Open thread]

Do any other hikkis on here buy stuff online like food things you collect movies clothes or whatever?? I buy stuff off of Amazon and currently i am trying to setup an Ebay account has anyone here had any trouble with online shopping such as having your identity stolen??.

Also ITT Post and discuss things you bought online.

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9745f6 No.6286

>>6284

>Pic is a cat grass plant I've grown at home using all things I ordered online.

Wish i had time for hobbies like that.

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b76a7c No.6419

Buy freeze dried food, at least one water filter, a USB solar panel or 2 + battery charger + batteries. You can do this thru Amazon or thru various freeze dried food websites. Convert your neetbux to gold if you can. Don't forget toilet paper and toothpaste and soap. You don't want fleas. And you better have a radio and a portable game system to pass away the time.

Congratulations, when the shit hits the fan you can bug in and be /comfy/ while everything goes fucking Venezuela out there. That's what I buy and I have ever since I got my autismbux 10 years ago.

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b83afb No.6466

>>6280

Here in UK you can order shopping direct to door for £1-3 ($1-$4) from store maybe worth looking into.

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68d182 No.7129

>>6419

Some of those freeze dried sites sell go-bag kits. That might be worth looking into. Also get yourself a nit comb. Even if you don't have fleas, they're really good at removing dandruff from hair. And if you do end up with fleas or lice (due to your fellow humans), then the nit comb pulls those things out of your hair.

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663a85 No.7174

File: d670148cc6abb7a⋯.jpeg (66.2 KB,1000x887,1000:887,wireless.jpeg)

bought pic related today because i spend most of my time on the couch and cables always get in the way. thinking about buying a wireless mouse next.

buying online is great with delivery to the door but the downside if you live alone like me is that it requires you to spend a great deal of time researching about what to buy online because you cant try out items so if you dont like something and you need to send it back it requires you to go to the post office. i really hope amazon will offer some sort of pick up service in the future for return items

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9d180a No.4200 [Open thread]

This question is mainly for users who are currently hikikomori. Are any of you happy being isolated from society??.

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32d0bf No.4651

>>4650

60 which isn't THAT old, but he is almost morbidly obese

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5e0d25 No.4653

File: 1b69edeb7228141⋯.jpg (36.9 KB,555x420,37:28,4121432142157.jpg)

Not happy but just content until I have my bad days when the depression kicks in, other times I get lonely and wonder why I've done this to myself.

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9d180a No.4656

>>4651

> 60 which isn't THAT old, but he is almost morbidly obese

Sorry to hear that anon.

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9d180a No.4657

>>4653

>Not happy but just content until I have my bad days when the depression kicks in, other times I get lonely and wonder why I've done this to myself.

Same here pretty much.

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bcb4f6 No.7093

File: 0a84df026c91f8b⋯.mp4 (3.46 MB,1280x720,16:9,Everything's Shit.mp4)

I tend to oscillate a lot between being both comfortably & uncomfortably numb with the way things are around here, but, ultimately, I wouldn't want to live any other way. This world is a blazing, fiery madhouse that I have no wish to participate in and, for me at least, is something I retreated from as soon as I was able to. Do I have days, (which seems to be ever more frequent now, unfortunately), where I'm lonely, frustrated with myself, restless & depressed? Of course. Cost of being alive on this dismal planet. Doesn't mean I want to stop being a shut-in. Quite the contrary, being a hermit just helps limit the hassle. Clean, clear & free from the usual burdening & bothersome attachments of this world (job, friends, romance, numerous other debts & responsibilities, etc.) A bit of a less strict, more uniquely beneficial form of asceticism, that's more materially minded instead of the dogmatic spiritual drivel it's usually associated with. Not to mention that, either way, no matter what it is you do, no matter who it is you are, life's gonna suck on some level. I'm not really sure how not being a hermit or a hikikomori is gonna change that.

Even so, I guess I still wouldn't mind an online acquaintance to play games with or something, seeing as how I've never had anything like that. I suppose that would fall under the aforementioned banner of loneliness, which, personally speaking, is the only thing that's significantly bothered me about this isolated existence I lead and, even then, only recently (as in the last couple years out of about 12). That kind of shit is beyond what I'm capable of tolerating however, given my high standards for conduct and low threshold of patience for other people's stupid crap. But, oh well. It's not like it matters.

>>4653

I'm always bothered by the fact that 99% of the time whenever I check a thread someone else has basically already said what I wanted to say before I even said it, which usually kills the desire to express anything since I feel like I'm just repeating something that's already been said. Pretty much explains why I just lurk all the time and never bother replying to mPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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58b1ee No.1915 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

What are some of the physical and mental issues that have arisen from your time spent in isolation?? for me it's the following.

>Back pain

>Weak bland muscles

>Depression

>Mild agoraphobia

>Social anxiety

>Pedophilia

>Feel tired all the time (Except at night)

>Constantly masturbaiting and addicted to porn

>Bad eating habits

>Blurry vision

>Suicidal tendencies

>Lack of vitamin D

>Allergic to my own sweat

>I start itching every time i go outside for food

>Weight loss

>Anger issues

What are some of the physical and mental issues you guys deal with while being hikikomori??.

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77ecdd No.7022

>IBS

>Panic Disorder

>Depression

>No appetite

>Underweight

>No energy, always tired

>No hygiene (shower once every week, never brush teeth)

>Maladaptive daydreaming

>Always talking to self

>Suicidal tendencies

>Depersonalisation

>Feet always cold

it's all so tiresome

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91d8d7 No.7054

I have a really bony ass which, quite literally, makes my butt hurt almost all the time, regardless of how comfy the chair I'm sitting in is. The bottom part of my thighs also feel like jello and sometimes cause me discomfort after prolonged periods of sitting. Doing some squats and Turkish Get-Ups everyday helped a little when I was exercising on a regular basis for a good 3-4 months last year, but then I started experiencing rather severe ETD (Eustachian tube dysfunction). My left ear would plug up like crazy almost all the time, despite having nothing in it whatsoever. Once I stopped exercising it went away completely, even though I still sometimes experience it every now & again.

I used to suffer from having an extremely weak digestive system which led to lots of painful stomach & intestinal cramping, but taking pro-biotics everyday seems to have cleared that up and I haven't suffered from anything like that for a while.

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468afc No.7088

File: e82620ffbab6edf⋯.jpg (4.6 KB,206x245,206:245,1475986678608(1).jpg)

My gums are quite sensitive & sore after coming back from the dentist the other day. The hygienist & dentist were both amazed at how great my teeth look and how well they're doing (despite not taking care of them and not going to a dentist for many years), but she still must've got a lot of plaque and other shit from in there, which probably explains why my gums still feel so tender. It's just annoying is all. It's probably for the best that I went though, despite how uncomfortable it made me. As an example, while I was in the waiting room with my parents, there was a very loud nasty man complaining to the receptionist about how he was overcharged for something and it made me feel very anxious and unwell. The dentist & hygienist were also rather unpleasant in their own disingenuous way. Felt like I was in a cage filled with wild zoo animals the whole time. Mother came in with me when I was called, which made me feel a bit more at ease. She did all the talking and I just laid there and waited until the hygienist was finished with me. Unless my teeth literally start falling out, I'm never going to such a place again. It wasn't all that bad I guess, but leaving the house is not something I take lightly and a good part of me deeply regrets choosing to step foot out of here in the first place. Anyway, whatever. I'll just pretend it never happened.

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cd21c2 No.7091

Social anxiety

Depression/ bipolar

Chronic alcoholic

Drug abuse

Anti-social behavior

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cd21c2 No.7092

>>7091

Same guy^^forgot to mention physical stuff but i have chronic back, joint and knee pains.

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969fd5 No.5193 [Open thread]

I've been a hikki for 7 years now and nothing changes. For 5 years straight i never left my room. Start of 2017 i was basically forced out of my room, i was half living with my mom half living with my dad for 9 months. Eventually got my first ID. Passed written drivers test to obtain a permit. After that i just went right back to being a full on hikki, never even took the driver part of the test, didn't even drive a car, ever. That was around 7 months ago now.

I don't know why my mom or step dad don't even bother with trying to get me out of the house. I went to Christmas with my family for the first time in years. It's been so long that my aunts children grew up and one of them didn't even know who i was. lol

Thinking about that just makes me cringe to the point i wanna kill my self.

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483992 No.5364

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>>5358

>That's why I'm so glad that grocery stores have self-checkouts.

I always hate when those things malfunction to be honest right now i'm trying to teach myself how to do online grocery shopping so i can have all of my food delivered to me and i don't have to go outside.

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3eeac3 No.5365

>>5358

Same here, also have no car and worried I'd look stupid bringing my beat-up backpack into the store or people thinking I would steal since this is a seedy area.

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296f6f No.7031

File: 7c8ef55cfcb15a6⋯.jpg (8.14 KB,500x367,500:367,83102b0d10a234ff6a44fd3c32….jpg)

10 1/2 months. Only reason I leave is if I have to go for an appointment, or something (like to a dentist, for instance). Only for me to then return to another 5-10 months of unbroken time spent in the house until, again, I leave for something trivial, like going for a walk late at night with my mom. In that sense, I've spent a great deal of consecutive time indoors. Years, basically. I also haven't been outside, on my own, in broad daylight since about 2005, for what it's worth.

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33c081 No.7061

>>5194

>I actually did get my licence at 23. The landwhale who administered the test actually scoffed at my age since getting a licence after 18 is apparently abnormal

I got mine after my twentieth birthday and the slut behind the desk kind of subtley mocked me too. Do your job, I didn’t ask for the judgement

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590471 No.7071

>>7031

>2005

Typo, meant to say 2007.

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d8b7fa No.1005 [Open thread]

Does anyone here have an "inner world"? I have been hikkikomori for a year but I really can't stand being locked up with my own thoughts, so I spend all day on the internet and watching anime. How does the average hikki deal with this feel?

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06b837 No.1251

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>>1241

I started reading Gate of Revelation (天启之门)

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cf140d No.1261

>>1251

That's from the Korean section right? I don't know much about their styles or themes but I've heard good things about Gate of Revelation in the past. I hope you find it enjoyable, but even if you don't there's plenty of others books to choose from until something takes your fancy.

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06b837 No.1263

>>1261

>That's from the Korean section right? I

Not sure

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9f804a No.7062

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The malignant uselessness of my thoughts, and really life itself, when I sit inert with no distractions, often gets to me in a bad way as well. My mind constantly festers with boring stupidity & annoying bullshit, as if a loud buzzing fridge & a screeching static laden radio were mashed together and then molded into the shape of a brain. I also have a very efilistic attitude towards existence and literally can't help, but think about how horrifying this bloody horror show of planet is and how staggering the collective pain of all the eons of life. I'm trapped in a planetary madhouse filled with bloodthirsty cannibals. There's no escape other than sleep (those who can't avail themselves of such a gift, for whatever reason, have my sympathies). As long as I'm awake, I feel like shit. It's that simple. All one can do in the face of such awfulness is endure. Especially when you're too weak to commit suicide, as I am.

>>1023

Funny. I used to as well almost all the time. Thought I was the only one. Haven't done it for a while, though. Got sick of hearing my own voice. Not to mention, that I haven't had anything to talk to myself about in a long time. I also don't have the energy and just sit around catatonically instead these days.

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b424c8 No.7065

>>1261

Those aren't Korean characters. Those look like this

안녕하세요 (An nyong ha say yo) formal hello; literally means do you walk with peace.

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d9f71e No.3927 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Being a hikki I've basically done nothing but watch porn and play vidya it feels like. I'd like to do interesting things given my situation so I've installed ubuntu and started to learn emacs lisp. I think quitting porn is the hardest right now, the reason I'm trying is I want to be able to focus and have willpower essentially, which means discipline. And I'd like to get back into reading. I've had Dostoevsky sitting on my desk for about 2 years and have only read 2 chapters, that's sad.

What are you doing?

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f5cf3f No.4385

>>4381

I meant that I'm trying to prepare myself for future conditions, not that I'm trying to get used to a new situation.

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5c347a No.4386

>>4379

>lucky

>live in Australia

I might not have to deal with snow, but I have to deal with 35+ degree weather.

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8e8ad2 No.4392

>>4385

>I meant that I'm trying to prepare myself for future conditions, not that I'm trying to get used to a new situation.

Oh i see okay never mind i misunderstood.

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8e8ad2 No.4393

>>4386

>I might not have to deal with snow, but I have to deal with 35+ degree weather.

Damn.

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9f3557 No.7055

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Reading the NHK manga for the first time back in March/April of last year helped me lose weight, begin exercising everyday, and immensely improve my diet, oddly enough. I watched the anime years ago and while it was OK, it didn't leave a huge impression me. The manga seemed to give all the characters a few more layers (especially Misaki herself) which made it a much more interesting story. Personally though, I think the anime had the better ending, since Satou hadn't really done some unrealistic 180 like in the manga, but more just had to do what he needed to do to get by and to avoid starving to death and is still basically the same person he always was.

Anyway, I don't know. I guess reading it somehow spurred a Daesu-Oh style transformation in me, to engage in something different with my time, regardless of the additional health benefits and more out of the inherent novelty, as I'm locked in my own particular space. I'm also not ashamed to admit that a part of me wanted to embody Satou in a physical sense, as being a slim, bordering on emaciated at certain intervals, stick figure and have Misaki cheer me on in my own head as I do it. Almost as if, that if I could somehow enter that world, I'd need to be as slim as Satou, otherwise it just wouldn't "work" & the continuity would be missing (for lack of a better way to describe it). The decision for me to eat only one meal a day for a few months there, actually came from one of the later chapters of the manga where Satou is starving himself, which I've now forgotten the context for. Hell, there were multiple times where I even imagined Joey from the Blackwell games encouraging me to keep doing what I was doing, for whatever random reason. It all seemed rather arbitrary in the end, whatever I conjured in my head to keep me on task, but enh. I guess that's how it goes.

I also ordered some Phoenix Tears which I took alone in my room (THC concentrate) a couple months prior to my shift in routine, and before reading the manga, after having never tried a drug of any sort before, not even alcohol, and I'd have to say that also played a not so small part in it all. It was a deeply unpleasant experience filled with palpable doom & anxiety, laced with moments of profound insight, that eventually led to me suffering from bouts of recurring derealization, which thanPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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91034d No.12 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

I got no where else to be in, where I can just have a chat with anyone who is an actual hikikomori, without being judgmental. I've tried the discord servers, hikkichan, etc. But it all failed. Especially since there are people who are not actually hikikomori. They tend to look down on you and mock to no end. Is there anyone out there who is a real, true hikikomori? One who doesn't have a job, not going to college, and not even in a relationship?

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add74e No.7033

>>7032

Anyway, aside from recently upgrading my PC with some new hardware, I don't really spend my monthly NEETbux very much, if at all. I am "saving it" in a way by reinvesting the money back in improving/renovating my parent's house, which will eventually be my house someday (assuming the damn thing ever gets fully paid off, that is). If the mortgage wasn't an issue then, short of societal collapse (which itself is a very distinct possibility to happen within the next 10 years, frankly), I'd more or less be set for life. My parents have never had any qualms with my being an inert hermit and are, more or less, the perfect guardians for one such as myself. They fully accept that my WizNEETing isn't really a choice at this point, assuming it ever really was, and that I was more or less just born & destined for this life and, thus, accept me for who I am, as we all take care of each other the best we can. They're more than happy to leave me the house, but again, I just don't see how the mortgage will ever be paid off before they die unless either I or my parents (who are relatively old themselves now, Mom is mid 50's, Dad is early 60's) get a sizeable inheritance of some kind or we otherwise win the lottery, so in the end it's all somewhat of a waste. Hopefully the dominoes will all fall the right way for things to work out, but either way what can you do. I do sometimes wish I had caught the shooting star of the bitcoin craze somehow. Then we could all be living in a nice big three story house with total financial security. Like most who fantasize about easy fortunes they missed the boat on, it hurts quite a lot to think about.

There's also the possibility that my brother might end up subsidizing my existence after my parents can no longer do so, since he makes quite a lot of money doing research at a private firm and making knick knack furniture in his off time for bored rich people with more dollars than sense, and is going into a career in medicine that will probably make him even more money. Maybe he'll end up paying for everything, but again. Who can say. All depends on how the chips fall. Tossed about just like a ship on the ocean.

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add74e No.7034

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>>7033

As an aside, despite having quite a pampered existence for the most part, I've sometimes fantasized about living out the rest of my days in a Yume Nikki styled apartment suspended in an endless sky. Exploring my dreams in total isolation from everything & everyone. Laying out on the balcony feeling the night air lightly breeze against me. Free from causing or being victim to any more suffering or tragedy. I'd like that all very much. Nonexistence being the greatest boon of all of course, but you know. This being second to that.

I've always hated that moment when the sunlight from outside starts to bleed inside my room through the tiny slit openings along the sides & top of my curtains. I've sometimes thought about taping them down, but enh. I'm not sure I'd like the look of that, to be honest, though I'm not sure why I care.

Really, if only this were Alaska. Near permanent night would suit me just fine. My sleeping is all over the place anyway. Wake up at 3:00 PM go to bed at 7:00 AM, wake up at 10:30 PM go to bed at 11:00 AM, round & round in a circle. I've always found it funny how I'll sometimes have a brief period of "normalcy" in the aforementioned cycle, where I'll go to bed at 9:30 PM or something and wake up at 7:00 or 8:00 in the morning, before once again returning to going to sleep at 6:00 PM and waking up at 1:00 AM. It's not often for me I feel this way given how long I've been like this, but it's still a bit surreal sometimes going to bed when its sunlight/night and waking up and having it still be the same thing outside. I still get my Viatamin D, albeit briefly, when I go to the toilet, at least. I suppose one might call that a joke. Haha.

I spend a lot of time napping (even though I often wake up groggy/bagfaced, since sleeping for only 30 minutes to an hour often does that to me), staring at the carpet, and forcing myself to play video games in spite of years long anhedonia because otherwise I'd just be staring at the carpet all day or napping. Despite all these many years, I still feel the need to "do" something with my time, so I accomplish that by playing/finishing whaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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5854f5 No.7047

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>>7045

>It's way too big, though

Our house is a cheap Canadian bungalow built in the 50's that's about the size of a shoebox and, to most people I'd imagine, be barely seem fit to house even two people, let alone an entire family. We're barely a step up from the "Trailer Park Boys", assuming you've ever heard of that show. I don't even know how both me & my brother growing up managed to survive stuffed up in this sardine can without all the walls getting splattered with blood in the process. The lack of space here has long been a point of great stress, especially for me. Neither of us had our own rooms and were forced to share one a lot would consider the size of a closet. The hilarity being we never even used it as such, since it basically just became the computer area for the family and a walk in storage closet for random crap, since there was never any other place to put such things. In the end, no one had the luxury of private space or a room, not even my parents. I slept in the living room with my Dad, me on a mattress on the floor and him in a cot in the hallway near the front door, & my brother slept in my Mom's room. The day my brother left for university and started living on his own was such a momentous one for me, since it meant there'd be one less person taking up space here and more room to actually breathe. However, even when he comes back to visit he still needs to sleep in the same bed as my Mother since it's still the only bedroom in the house and there's literally nowhere else for someone to sleep. He left sometime in 2010, but it wasn't until late 2016 that I finally got my own room after a long road of constant struggle, which included much scrimping and saving along with many heated arguments with my parents. The living room was refitted to serve as a living space for me with a door I could lock and everything. My Dad had begun to live/sleep in our basement since about 2014, which made the arrangement a perfect one since everyone (me in the living room, my mom in her room/the computer room, and my father in the basement) all finally had our own corners to retreat to. It all sounds rather frighteningly awful and, I suppose in a lot of ways, it kinda was. Being constantly exposed for all those many years in an open space and never knowing a single moment of privacy Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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5854f5 No.7049

>>7047 (You)

(Continued from my last post. The word limit on this site is rather restrictive to be honest)

>>7045

>Even if I got a job (unlike you, I have never had one), it would never be enough, since continuing my education would be intolerable and jobs that pay well are not things that I would be able to do for more than a day or two before running back home.

I wouldn't even be able to do that. I'd sooner fling myself off the nearest bridge and drown (I don't know how to swim). Just because I had a part time job for two to three weeks 12 years ago, doesn't make me all that capable. If anything it only strengthens my conviction to never be in a position where I'd have return to that kind of shit. I'd say I got off pretty easy, though, given how brief my stint was with employment in general. Many have had to endure far worse in the working world after all.

>A small apartment is all I need.

I think I'd hate an apartment because what if you're living next to some annoying asshole who ends up tormenting you in some way. Think how Satou was forced to listen to that "Purin Purin" shit over & over again because the walls were so thin. I'd be way too cowardly & timid to make a fuss over it like he did, which means I'd just be at the mercy of whatever asshole happened to be next door. On the reverse, I'd be too scared to play anything loud because what if someone complains to the management and they come kicking down my door. Too much potential anxiety for me. Besides, I've already had to grapple with shit like that for most of my life already.

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5854f5 No.7050

>>7047

>My mother has been unemployed for going on almost 3 decades

That's actually not true and is rather unfair to her actually. Not sure why I said that. She's had many jobs throughout the years. Just none she could make a full career out of. She's worked as a seamstress, a customer service representative at Sears, and, lastly, with an insurance company as a signing agent, which was about 10 years ago now.

I'm always saddened by the fact that my mother is actually a very talented woman and once had a well paying job in medicine that she gave up when she met my father. There was even opportunities for her to become a school teacher of some kind way back when, but she never pursued them. The extra money certainly would've been nice, but, in many ways, she's a NEET hermit like me, so I can't blame her for dropping out of everything. Besides, she's largely the reason things are basically as comfy around here as they are, what with being my main confidant/shield to the outside world. I'd never have gotten my NEETbux if it weren't for her diligently filling out all the forms and making sure I got what I needed, for instance.

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31644e No.5823 [Open thread]

sometimes I find myself having to go to the grocery store for food. It's not so bad because my local walmart is 24 hours, and has machine cashiers. I can get toiletries and most foods on amazon. how do you guys avoid going outside?

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510a73 No.5827

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>>5823

I buy food in bulk i only go to the grocery store once a month so it's not a big deal i order snacks off of Amazon. I'm pretty new to online grocery delivery but eventually i will get the hang of it.

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e07274 No.6948

Delivery for food and snacks and everything else and pay someone to take out garbage for you. For me, my maids do it usually.

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6bfd93 No.6956

Getting fresh meats and produce is kind of hard, but I have been useing shipt to get delivery from the grocery store.

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dc3677 No.6969

Amazon definitely. It's really easy for myself, most of the things I want to do I can do form the computer, so it's not too much of a struggle.

Is it just going outside or is it more needing strategies to avoid having to get stuff in person?

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a45e29 No.7026

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>>6969

OP here. I get visably anxious in public. People can tell and they give me dirty looks. They must think I'm on drugs. I just can't take it.

Nice get

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