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LIVE Baking Seminar
7/16/2020
We in here
Welcome To LIVE Baking Classes in the Q Research Utility Kitchen
We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
We are the bakers who provide the breads for those anons who post Qresearch's open-sourced information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of baking ideas and baking ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here.
=VINCIT OMNIA VERITAS=
=SEMPER FIDELIS=
=WWG1WGA=
INTRO TO BAKING
Qresearch is a 24/7 beehive of activity where anons post their diggs, memes and prayers.
For this to happen requires bakers–which is why they have been called "the core of this board."
Bakers perform several key functions:
* Set the tone for each bread via their choice of bread title and /comms/ with posters.
* Post notables for each bread.
* Bake breads (transition the board from one thread to the next).
* Knead the dough (keeping the resource pages clean, tidy, and up-to-date).
When all goes well, baking is a fun & exciting opportunity to serve. When things get wonky and shills attack–bakers carry on anyway.
Shadilay, fellow bakers!
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General Announcements
* Baking Class in /comms/ every Thursday @7pm ET: practice baking, Q&A, all are welcome
* Baking class plan (so any baker can teach) >>11969, https://pastebin.com/gqfunWCR
* How to bake a baking seminar dough >>14289
* Too many threads problem - bakers be(a)ware >>15895
* Qbin links qanonbin.com, www2qanonbin.com
Past Class links & archives
>>6125 #1, >>6368 #2, >>6885 #3, >>7185 #4 , >>7568 #5, >>8274 #6, >>8872 #7, >>9320 #8, >>9787 #9, >>10510 #10, >>11086 #11, #12 >>11733, #13 >>13041, #14 >>13590, #15 >>14290, #16 >>14873, #17 >>15341, #18 >>15918, #19 >>16885, #20 >>17719, #21 >>18289
Archives: Classes #1 - #20: >>18934
Step-by-Step Baking Instructions
>>17783 STEP 0 - Preparation
>>17797 STEP 1 - Find the Current Dough
>>17803 STEP 2 - Copy the Current Dough
>>17807 STEP 3 - Paste The Dough Into Text Editor ( >>17810 dough in Q-bin)
>>17815 STEP 3a - Trim The Notables Section
>>17822 STEP 3b - Make space for your New Notables
>>17831 STEP 4 - Create A New Thread
>>17837 STEP 5 - Enter Thread Info And Post Thread
>>17845 STEP 6 - Enter the Rest of the Dough
>>17863 STEP 7 - Make A New Pastebin & Make The Dough Post ( >>17868, >>17871, >>17875 Q-bin updates)
>>17876 STEP 8 - Post Your New Thread Link
Baking Overview & Extras
>>17777 Overview
>>17884 Linking between Boards
>>17894 Timing
>>14523 Baker's Tools Lite
>>16963 NEW: How to Bake When Q Posts >>16994, >>17015, >>17032, >>17037
E-BAKE Instructions
>>9252, >>10776
Dough Revision
Page 1 - Baking Seminar Intro & Step-by-Step Baking Instructions
Page 2 - Baking Resources
Page 3 - Baking FAQs in 3 posts
Old pages 2 & 3 can be found HERE:
>>14291 Q & A - Baking Seminars #1 - #14
>>14293 Baker Tips, Tricks & Traps #1 - #14
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1b4ed8 No.20310
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60ea64 No.20311
>>20309
links to same board have 2 >> and no board name:
>>20235
>>20243
>>20251
>>20260
>>20269
>>20280
>>20287
>>20296
off-board links have 3 >>>:
>>>/comms/20235
>>>/comms/20243
>>>/comms/20251
>>>/comms/20260
>>>/comms/20269
>>>/comms/20280
>>>/comms/20287
>>>/comms/20296
I'm baking currently, will take a closer look at this later. you're welcome to follow along with notable collection and Q posts updates and all the rest. link: >>>/qresearch/9996420
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60ea64 No.20312
>>20309
>when I go to do something it takes ages and before it was instant.
sounds like an issue with your internet setup. 8kun is buggy but not in that particular way, and everything is working fine for me right now.
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1b4ed8 No.20313
>>20308
<you are going by XIclaveli on there
wish someone would give me a name. was stuffing around and practicing when some cheeky smartarse decided to give me an anonbin, I think they think they are funny, they most likely are, but really? dont know how to change that either, nm
will make a fresh paste. then link it to here.
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60ea64 No.20314
>>20313
kek, I was wondering about the name, you can put whatever you like in the username field on anonbin
you should be using a strong, unique password to generate your tripcode there, if you are then you can just keep the same password with your new username
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1b4ed8 No.20315
>>20308
<<how about you
Everyday is a good day including the ones that I make difficult for myself. ha
Never been happier, curiously never been happier and grateful for everything including the scary moments of other peoples behavior to learning about our reality and the beauty we are moving towards.
>>20314
Thank you, will sleep on it for a name. So glad it can go… because I was embarrassed for being a turkey.
I'm coming to the main board.. thanks for the invite.
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1b4ed8 No.20316
>>20311
class slide was a slide, we don't know till we try.
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60ea64 No.20317
>>20316
yep
you fixed it right away though, good job
bakers make mistakes, shit happens, noticing your own mistakes and fixing them is a good baker skill
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1b4ed8 No.20318
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1b4ed8 No.20319
>>20317
<<a few bakers out there that I wouldn't recommend
am very comfortable with you
your easy to like
do you think Q has finished?
I would like too, with you, but your very tired, and your bin is a guest.
If you see me again can you please ask me. Ill keep the silly name, till baking my first bread in the next few days maybe?
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60ea64 No.20320
>>20318
>i copied you and made a dough
that works
a couple of things:
- three >>> quote marks in your first notables bun, this will make all those posts show in green with non-working links
- notables got cut off
see pic
I also spot checked a few of your practice bakes, they look excellent, only thing I saw was that in >>20234 the bread title is #12779 but the first notable bin is also #12779. the title should always be one more than the first notables bin, so I guess that title should be #12780. the other 2 I spot checked were literally perfect, didn't see any issues at all. great work.
I think collecting good notes is one of the hardest parts of baking, and there's not really a good way to practice that other than doing it live
I just ghosted the main bread if you wanna try it, cant think any more and need to sleep
if you do collect some notes, just tag (quote) the dough post and the post where I ghosted
>do you think Q has finished?
probably
>your bin is a guest
shouldn't be? I bake as newsbaker with the tripcode !!!k9VsKvRBTand on anonbin and !!IcCEmB4cYM on comms
>If you see me again can you please ask me.
yep
I'm usually on evenings/nightshift, sometimes during the day also
a bit earlier than when we started today should be perfect, I should be around tomorrow and sunday
>Ill keep the silly name, till baking my first bread in the next few days maybe?
totally up to you
goodnight fren
o7
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60ea64 No.20321
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1b4ed8 No.20322
>>20320
Hope you sleep well, see you tomorrow around the same time.
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1b4ed8 No.20323
>>20320
No no didn't cut it off, just used an earlier notables because I was a potato. Then I fixed the missing 9996711 number at the bottom of the notables because it was missing.
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fca833 No.20337
>>20149
Re bakers not supporting other bakers, new and old
Spend about 20 hours looking at breads and collecting posts. Necessary to satisfy myself about the things you said. It wasn't just my actions but those of other bakers in the situations described. Ended up with six or seven caps with detailed info.
Seemed like serious stuff that deserved a definite response. First, to know if there was anything i would say or do differently having looked twice. Second, to see whether there seemed to be some general problem for bakers a group.
After two days of work, my answer was NO to both questions. Except for the usual minor misunderstandings/miscomms, did not find anything other than
(for oldfag baker), baker rough-housing/banter which had a "happy - and rather funny - ending" and (for newfag baker) a careful and considerate giving of baking feedback/info by more than one party over a two-day period. Two overriding motives again and again: (a) to support baker and (b) to generate a clean dough.
Not gonna post the caps. Have no wish to put colleagues who work their butts off every day under a highly public microscope in real time. Just not worth it. Will only say that what I saw on the whole was bakers giving feedback that was situationally appropriate. Ditto for anons. Even the 'roughest' remarks were not really unkind; and strong statements in one post were often tempered by something lighter in succeeding posts, even apologies when needed. If anything, this exercise strengthened my conviction that this kitchen is essentially solid. Not comp'd, crazy, or careless.
Was gonna wait and think about what to post a little longer. But i need to address one issue specifically: the idea that i said baker "fucked up" - coz direct quotes imply that i literally said "fucked up." The attached cap shows what i said. Bare-bones description of the correction needed and how the situation came about. Did that on purpose, in the interests of keeping things impersonal.
Re "keeping an eye" on the situation
Said "will monitor." Was to an anon who sent a post which raised concerns–in same bread as cap. Anon had given feedback several times. Why not implemented, he asked? Well, IDK. How to say the right thing on a board where everything is public? All one can do is try.
There are now many resources for bakers new and old. But it's up newfags to use 'em and for oldfags to keep up with kitchen changes. That's just common sense. In the end, "he who bakes is responsible for the bread he bakes." my 2cents.
If there are q's, i'll answer. Other than that, i consider this matter over and done with.
-out
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60ea64 No.20340
>>20337
>Second, to see whether there seemed to be some general problem for bakers a group.
fwiw, I definitely see the general problem. existing bakers are reluctant to accept new bakers, and are often harder on new bakers than on people we already know.
I think this is mostly due to "in-group bias" which is well documented.
I did not see any problem with your specific statements in this situation though.
I still think it is also a problem when bakers are unable to see anon feedback due to their own ego, thinking everyone that could possibly have anything negative to say about them is a shill. when anyone gets to that point they are effectively having a conversation with their own ego instead of being able to pay attention to what others are saying, and it is very difficult to reach through that.
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e321a5 No.20350
>>20337
Same Baker, Same Old.
Caps related from breads #12807 and #12806. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and sometimes a shill is just a shill.
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fca833 No.20351
>>20350
From caps:
Good to see that new baker is baking, was practicing yesterday & getting baker feedback.
Looks like he switched ip's after confirming (green to orange)
This is caused note-taker (brown) not to know whether it was the same anon who originally took the bake.
So new baker says's he'll confirm again - which he does.
It's getting to @500 so note-taker prompts him to post notables.
Later, new baker bakes early (prolly not used to slo graveyard pace). Apologizes.
= = = =
Your point?
>"Same Baker, Same Old"
this is new baker
>shill is just a shill
there's no shill
I
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60ea64 No.20352
>>20350
>And tried to shrug it off as a first time baker. (cap related) If a first time baker, how come so many 'bakes' in pastebin?
because he practiced extensively before baking live, you dumbfuck
you would know that if you had read this same thread you posted in here, literally the last 10 posts before yours
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413e04 No.20353
>>20351
>>20352
Well, the first one was good enough. Glad it is over with, not anywhere near as bad as imagined. Was upset for a couple of brief, intense moments and laughed out loud at the absurdity of the continuous vpn changes and id changes. Previous bakers notes were upside down and was expecting a note taker. Ran away after making a mess and passing a sloppy handoff…
Determined to lick this!
Going to keep practicing today.
Frankly, cigars are nice and Smokey.
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60ea64 No.20354
>>20353
good job baker
sounds like everything went pretty well
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60ea64 No.20355
>>20353
we'll be here if you need anything, otherwise see you in the main stream
o7
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413e04 No.20356
>>20350
Thanks for the screen shots of my first bake on the main board. Your too kind.
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413e04 No.20357
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fca833 No.20360
>>20353
Congrats baker. Saw your work, you did well.
>Previous notes upside down
Bakers take notes in both directions. If you pick up a ghost bake, you can continue same or switch if there's time. Each to his own.
We all make messes. Mistakes are an everything thing, even for experienced bakers. ty for baking!
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9db243 No.20365
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2832ad No.20366
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fca833 No.20369
>>20360
*everyday
(makes my point tho!)
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e2b34e No.20410
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11ade9 No.20472
Guys, any idea why I can't see Q's post tripcode flashing, when they post? I can see other board bo's tripcodes flash, but not Q's. I have to rely on other anon's catching his post while baking.
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7935b8 No.20473
Is there a baker around??
How do I fix broken links in past breads, the Q posts specifically.
I'd like the practice and the knowledge.
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7935b8 No.20474
>>20473
The little lines from current (live) post, aren't correcting it.
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60ea64 No.20529
>>20473
>How do I fix broken links in past breads, the Q posts specifically.
8kun has archived these older posts and they can no longer be linked to directly.
adding the full URL to each post might work but that sounds very time-consuming and annoying for little gain.
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7935b8 No.20530
>>20529
Hello! Okay will not bother with that.
So there is a way, laborious way to do it, mmm.
Good to know.
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60ea64 No.20531
>>20530
>So there is a way, laborious way to do it, mmm.
I havent seen any bakers do this but I think it would work in theory.
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60ea64 No.20532
>>20530
and finding the right links for each post would be a bitch.
>Well yes, but actually no
kek
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7935b8 No.20533
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7935b8 No.20534
>>20532
kek
If your going to steal, take from the best! (me) not (you) pretend thats green.
also (op) in green, what is that about? this happened today.
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7935b8 No.20535
>>20308
<<if you get a weird vibe from someone then they're probably not the right person
Hear you loud and clear on that note, trust my instincts.
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fca833 No.20537
Baker verification mini-seminar
>>19874 Why do bakers verify who they are handing off to?
>>19890 What are some ways that bakers have kept a work history and used it to verify their handoffs so far?
What do these verification methods have in common?
>>19914 Example verification using pastebin
>>19934 Example of an incorrect/invalid verification using pastebin
>>19953, >>19990 Is this a valid verification by itself?
>>20026 Verification using qanonbin.com
>>20037 Human or "inexact" methods of verification
>>20047 Bun of verification discussion
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fca833 No.20538
Dough Revision
Page 1 - Baking Seminar Intro & Step-by-Step Baking Instructions
Page 2 - Baking Resources
Page 3 - Baking FAQs in 3 posts
Old pages 2 & 3 can be found HERE:
>>14291 Q & A - Baking Seminars #1 - #14
>>14293 Baker Tips, Tricks & Traps #1 - #14
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fca833 No.20547
Baking FAQs
Generally
What hardware/software is needed in order to bake?
Laptop or desktop (phonefagging hard for newbies & tablets lack power). The bigger the screen, the better. Text editor like Notepad++ (for PCs) or Atom (for Macs).
What other skills are good for a baker?
Patience, persistence, high tolerance for criticism, ability to say no to shills. Good enough typing to more or less keep up the pace.
What shift is good for a new baker?
A slow shift like late night to early morning (also, Q seldom posts then). If you take a faster shift, just tell anons you're new and you'll get support.
Bakers Tools
This is an independent tool that anyone can use, but you don't need it to bake.
Baking in TOR
TOR doesn't allow images but does allow embedded YT vids; use for General (Iwo Jima) image. There's usually a TOR vid in "Baking" section of the /qresearch/ dough.
Don't change previous baker's notables
Possible exceptions: bad links, spelling errors, when they give specific permission.
Baking everyday vs every so often
Whether you can bake a little or a lot, help is always welcome in the kitchen.
How to reduce baking stress
Practice first, develop routines, be prepared, stay calm, don't fixate on mistakes.
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fca833 No.20548
Baking FAQs
The Dough
The dough = first 4-5 posts/pages in each bread. Each post in one document separated by /////BREAK\\\\\\ markers.
Organization
post 1 - Q posts, post 2 - Notables, post 3 - War Room, post 4 - QPosts Archives. Notables page can be broken into two pages on the fly if notable buns are long (even tho there's no BREAK marker).
Dough problems & change requests
New bakers sometimes inherit a funny-looking dough or are asked by anons to make dough changes. If you're not sure what to do, say so and defer to next baker. Often, bakers in the thread will jump in to help.
Practice Baking
You can practice bake in /comms/, established in 2018 by BO Rusty. After getting down the basic steps, try shadow baking (following a real bake to get the timing down).
Green text
In /comms/ practice bakes using Q Research doughs, links don't work and text is green.
Q&A & getting feedback
Practice bakers can ask q's by posting in the baking seminar thread or baker's Meta thread in /comms/.
Pastebin.com
What is pastebin.com?
An app/site that stores the dough so bakers can transfer it to next baker.
Do I need an account to use pastebin.com?
No, anyone can use it as a GUEST. You can also (optionally) add a pastebin name to identify your acct to anons.
How to make a new pastebin
Copy entire dough from text editor, upload to pastebin.com, select New Paste, paste in dough, select Create New Paste at bottom. See step-by-step instructions for more.
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fca833 No.20549
Baking FAQs
Notables
How to tell what is notable?
A few ideas: look for anon noms, Q decodes, POTUS tweets/retweets, planefag/boatfag reports, relevant news items (for breaking news, check qresear.ch to avoid dups).
Usually, memes are not notabled. Unsauced tweets & articles must be sauced first (quality matters).
How to format notables list?
Formats vary, but best to use bold orred text. Examples: 'Early notables', 'Notables @200', 'Notables #11956 @300'. Always link to dough post if ghosting after posting.
How often do you post notables?
Often enough to give anons multiple chances to have their say about notable selection, some ideas:
* 200, 400, 600 (plus a FINAL) or * 250, 500, Last Call around 640 (plus a FINAL).
If you take the bake late: Post notes as soon as you catch up or by @600 at the latest (so anons know you're still there).
Max number of breads in Previously Collected Notables?
4 - 5 lines. To make room, just delete the bottom line(s).
Timing Issues
What do I do after accepting the handoff?
Most bakers start by finding/copying pastebin (check Dough post first); prepping Create a Thread; and doing a quick dough check to make sure everything is ok. Then start collecting notables. Later, bakers will need to check bread title (update?), check notables page (more room needed?), and transfer notables from text editor to dough.
When to post a final notables list?
Depends on bread speed but usually around 680 - 710.
How to keep up with notables during fast breads?
Depends how fast. When Q posts, priority is on grabbing Q drops, not notes. During fast non-Q breads, focus on skimming off the 'cream' and leaving the rest. Always try to include noms but only if they're high quality (from anons not shills). Practice makes perfect.
How long does a New Thread take to show up after I select Create a Thread?
30 - 60 seconds unless there's a severe lag. If lag is bad, let anons know and ask them to wait for new thread.
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fca833 No.20550
Baking FAQs
_Handoffs & Baker Comms__
Good /comms/ are critical for well-baked breads, so need to be clear & easy to find.
Showing baker or note-taker changes
Easy to forget but useful to showing who's responsible for which notables. Insert "baker change" or "note-taker" at the point when the change occurs when recording notables.
Handoffs: call-and-response protocol
Baker announces he seeks handoff; available baker(s) announce they can bake; baker usually takes the first in line.
Example: B1:baker seeks handoff', B2:can bake, B1:handoff confirmed?, B2:confirmed, bread is mine
When shill activity is high, baker may be asked to produce a recent pastebin or other proof that he's legit.
Ghost bake protocols - ALWAYS TAG THE DOUGH POST!
When baker can't get a replacement, he may have to ghost the bread (leave it bakerless).
Example: B1:baker seeks handoff; will ghost @100, [no response], B1:baker leaving the kitchenghost bake
When another baker picks up the ghost:baker assuming responsibility.
Don't forget to TAG THE DOUGH POST so bakers arriving after @600 will know there's a baker (avoids dup bakes).
When there is more than one baker per bread
Two things to note:
1. Ordering of notables (can be more or less "top to bottom" or "bottom to top"): Either use the same order as first baker or change his to match yours; try not to mix them.
2. Use "baker change" to separate your work from first baker's. Don't treat first baker's notables like suggestions, respect them as if they are PB notables.
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fca833 No.20551
Baking FAQs
Making Reports and Global Reports
To report to BO/BVs, find little triangle on upper left of each post, select it, then use menu.
Use Report to ask BO to make bread changes that bakers can't make, e.g. changing a wrong bread number. You may need to do it more than once (or twice).
Use Global Reports for child porn (CP) or other illegal material. Someone is on-duty 24 hours.
Duplicate bakes
Use Report to ask for moldy bread to be locked and provide a link to 'good' bread.
Baking
See step-by-step instructions on page 1 of class dough. E-BAKE steps are there too.
To bake each page….
Divide bread into 4 posts by looking for /////BREAK\\\\\ markers. (For two-page notables, do it on-the-fly for page 2).
How to bake when the Catalog is down?
Use the Index (8kun.top/qresearch/index.html). You can Create a Thread there. Afterwards, locate your new thread this way: go past the pinned threads and the old thread; the new one is usually right after it. To "enter" that thread, click on the OP post number. (Allow at least 30 secs for new thread to appear.)
Baking Error Messages
Body too long
Happens when there are too many characters per post (maybe 5000) or too many lines (maybe 200). This seems to vary but gives you an idea).
Flood detected
Happens if you already posted same exact text (most common–if so, add a space somewhere). Can also happen during DDOS or when too many anons post at once.
Server took too long
Usual server response for /qresearch/ bakes (95% of bakes). Solution: WAIT AT LEAST 30-60 secs, then check the Catalog (should post despite the message).
Can be confusing for first-time bakers because this lag doesn't happen in /comms/.
SEE ALSO Crazy bakes >>9960
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fca833 No.20552
Baking FAQs
_Common Mistakes__
Don't be afraid to make mistakes - all bakers make 'em (get used to it newbies!). Easy-to-make mistakes:
* Incomplete copypasta (not grabbing ALL the dough when baking for each post, so that top or bottom isn't there)
* Screwing up content or formatting for bread title (use Report to have BO/BVs correct).
* Not tagging the dough post in comms like handoffs, picking up a ghost bake or posting notes in a ghost bake
* Forgetting to use BOLD andred textfor handoffs, Notables posts, and other important comms
* Confusing "Create a Thread" in the Catalog with "Post a Reply" within a bread. (Avoid this by putting Create a Thread tab far away from tab with current bread.)
* Accidentally pressing Create a Thread before end of bread
(Solution: report premature thread to BO/BVs, post a link back to real bread, post an alert & apology to anons, then forget it & return to bake).
* Dough errors (Solution: generate new dough & post pastebin link in the bread. First-time bakers: just leave a message for next baker on the problem.)
Q Bakes & Other Fast Breads
Generally: When Q posts, drop everything and get to bottom of bread to pick up Q drops and put them in the dough. Pick up notes from there if you can. Bake EARLY - @630 is not uncommon.
Formatting Q drops & LINES
Check existing Q drops to see formatting; copy-pasta the LINES, don't try to do them yourself.
Cap for baker
Anons will usually post them for you. Search with F3 on the link or 'cap for baker'.
POTUS rally breads
These can be pretty speedy; bake early so anons have a place to post rally comments.
Dealing with Shills
Shills want a bread full of squabbling anons so that anons withdraw and good digs are overlooked. Just the presence of a baker deters them.
SEE ALSO "How To Quickly Spot A Clown" (last line of page 1 in /qr/ dough).
Telling anons from shills
Baker: "you can tell when a reasonable accommodation does not mollify." Posters who kvetch no matter what are shills, not anons.
Responding to shill tactics
Shills always test bakers, pressuring them on notables, dough changes, etc. If being reasonable does not work (see above), make a decision and stand firm with it.
Common shill tactics for screwing with bakers
Purposely leaving out dates on moldy notables; nomming a list of notables at end of bred; nomming hard-to-evaluate Q decodes w/no main point or title; including no sauce or crap sauce; burying bad stuff in the middle of a post (muh joos, etc), moaning about pb notables/asking for changes.
Anons do some of these things too but shills are more obvious about it.
Ways to respond when you're sure it's a shill:
* Generic shilling/spam: Generally ignore.
* When shills demand something: Respond calmly, with humor and facts, try funny memes to diffuse an attack (Left still can't meme).
Memes also tend to end the conversation. See Baker Tips for examples of how to outlaugh a shill.
* For a personal attack targeting you: If it's major, don't take that shit, fight back, it's war. Make the shill POS sorry he ever took you on with a powerful and meticulously documented, fact-based counterattack. Screencap the evidence. Remember, revenge is a dish best served cold.
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7935b8 No.21063
Baker Please?
I've been taking notable notes and following along with the current baker, it was easier without the memes…
I'd like some guidance. Only getting 3 out of 10 that baker is noting.
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7935b8 No.21064
>>21063
hope the black and white does get squeezed out by a one armed bandit and mixed to grey, happy blue eyes are still be.
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3c58f3 No.58285
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