/comms/ - COMMS

Q & A

——— Class #1 (2/13/20)

>>6237 How often do you post a notables list? >>6244, >>6248, >>6266, >>6251, >>6278

>>6253, >>6471 What is "body too long"? How to fix? >>6253, >>6275

>>6252 When do you post next bread link to hit 751 (sniping)? >>6263

>>6283 Last notable post: any special formatting? >>6296, >>6297

>>6302 Better to make the updated pastebin before baking or after (and then post the dough)? >>6304

——— Class #2 (2/20/20)

>>6406 How to deal with "server too long" message? >>6423

>>6672 How to put my text editor notables in pastebin? >>6673

>>6432 How to tell what is notable and what is not? >>6432, >>6434, >>6436, >>6450, >>6466

>>6513 Do real anons actually love the bewbs (or are they just a distraction)? >>6521, >>6523, >>6526, >>6532

>>6533 How do you make a new pastebin? >>6543, >>6537

>>6549 How much practice do I need? >>6550, >>6559

>>6570 How do you format a Q post? >>6573, >>6588, >>6597, >>6598

>>6630 How great is the need for bakers? >>6635

>>6693 What are the //// BREAK \\\\ in the pastebin [page breaks]? >>6694

>>6732 Do notables go directly in the dough/pastebin file or in a separate Notable file? >>6691, >>6732

>>6833 How to bake: Index vs Catalog? >>6834, >>6839

>>6779 What shifts need bakers? >>6781, >>6802, >>6806, >>6811, >>6822 [rt 6802], >>6824,

>>6845 Feedback on a new bake rt >>6842

——— Class #3 (2/27/20)

>>6908 How do you 'grab the dough'? 10 steps: >>6910, >>6924, >>6928, >>6949, >>6955, >>7042, >>7045, >>7049, >>7055, >>7070

>>6934, >>6938 What is "baker's tools" app & where to find it? >>6943, >>6950, >>6951

>>7073 Anon request for feedback on bake: >>7081, >>7086

>>6966 How does a baker keep up with notables (day, night, Q)? >>6982

>>6983 I got "body too long" - what to do? >>6998, >>7007, >>7015, >>7024, >>7040

>>6984 Anon: plz check my work? >>6994

>>7028 Do I need a pastebin login account? [no!]

>>6995 Max no. of breads in "Previously Collected Notables"? >>7033

>>7033 Can you avoid two-page notables by placing oldest breads in "previously collected notables? [yes!]

>>7025 Body too long: what's the limit? [~4500 char or 100 lines]

>>7030 Why are links in practice bakes green? >>7030, >>7035

——— Class #4 (3/5/20)

>>7193 Baking possible on a cell phone? >>7010, >>7205

>>7210 How do you know who is baking? >>7215, >>7218, >>7222

>>7236 I know I would choke if things got too hectic >>7240

>>7315 How do i get notable bun linked under previously collected notables? >>7319

——— Class #5 (3/12/20)

>>7735 What about sniping? >>7739, >>7752

>>7779 How can you tell a real baker from a shil l baker? >>7781, >>7790, >>7803, >>7807, >>7821, >>7861

>>7833 How do i know which baker is baking? >>7838, >>7849, >>7851, >>7866, >>7884, >>7885, >>7906

>>7830 How do bakers delete posts? [they don't] >>7834, >>7837, >>7839, >>7842

>>7853 Should I get a pastebin account? >>7870, >>7875

>>8003 What is the "flood detected" message when baking? >>8011, >>8016

>>8024 Does baker include only anon noms in notables? >>8029

——— Class #6 (3/19/20)

>>8421 Notes: how do you keep up in a fast bred? >>8432, >>8440

>>8500 What is "shadowing the bread"? >>8546

>>8679 Am I too slow to bake? No! >>8679, >>8698, >>8696, >>8700

>>9258 How do you insert General Image in TOR bakes? >>9278

——— Class #7 (3/26/20)

>>9258 How do TOR bakers use the Iwo Jima video?

>>9135 Can we recap?

——— Class #8 (4/02/20)

>>9397 /comms/ with anons from bakers–ok or not? >>9382, >>9397, >>9407, >>9410. >>9411, >>9418

>>9530 How often does BO log in?

>>9918 Bred titles: What's ok & how to format? >>9932, >>9936

——— Class #9 (4/09/20)

>>10020 Why are my notables green? >>10026, >>10041

>>10032 Q about images: when png, TOR, mp4? >>10067

>>9999 When to postbaking? >>10010, >>10079, >>10092

>>10162 How many practice baker b4 a real bake? >>10168, >>10174

——— Class #10 (4/16/20)

>>10641 What do when Q posts? >>10645

>>10762 Would like to bake but have no regular schedule >>10763, >>10765

——— Class #11 (4/23/20)

>>11376 Why use both pastebin.com and notepad++? >>11312, >>11321, >>11325

>>11306 How to keep up in fast breads? >>11309, >>11314, >>11320

Baker Tips, Tricks & Traps

——— Class #1 (2/13/20)

>>6329, >>6400, >>6468 /comms/ BO Rusty checks in

——— Class #2 (2/20/20)

>>6431 What is "pastebin"?

>>6449 muffin tactic of omitting date–why dates matter,other advice on notabling >>6477

>>6480 Even the worst mistakes are fixable

>>6501, >>6477 How to deal with Q proofs & other anon analyses

>>6525 How to post off-bred links

>>6543 Take care to copypaste entire dough to pastebin - easy to miss top or bottom

>>6658, >>6656 Use Control-F (F3) to search within each bread

>>6665 Every new baker freaks out when when Q posts

>>6676 Never feel dumb

>>6734 When to make a new thread [to prep it, not bake it!]

>>6683, >>6687 Cloning the dough in case pastebin.com goes down

>>6695, >>6735, >>6752, >>6754, >>6769, >>6822 Bakers on nick-names, icons, pastebins

>>6848 Baking trick (what to do while waiting for thread to drop)

——— Class #3 (2/27/20)

>>7340, >>7072 Baking Steps 1 - 9 (slides only)

>>6998 One- vs two-page notables (more: >>7007, >>7015, >>7024, >>7040)

>>7019, >>7027, >>7030, >>7069 Bakers never panic, never tap

>>7051 Advantages of a non-guest pastebin account [no captcha]

>>7054 You don't have to pull marathons to bake

>>7106, >>7177 Baker pleased to see 2 late gy bakers vying for the bread

>>7116 Eight tips for creating notables posts (to help bakers)

>>7175 End-of-bread issues

——— Class #4 (3/5/20)

>>7189 Summary of Baking Steps (eight)

>>7209 "Create a Thread" versus "Post a Reply" >>7212, >>7220

>>7231 Only the first post in baking uses "Create a thread"

>>7216 Laptop is fine for baking

>>7224 The two parts of baking: actual baking & note-taking

>>7252 Funny meme: baker's perspective on baking

>>7287, >>7294 Dough posts with breaks marked /////BREAK\\\\\

>>7298, >>7303, >>7311 Two-page notables (discussion)

>>7321 How to create a new dough paste

——— Class #5 (3/12/20)

>>7573, >>7575, >>7582 In response to "I suck at baking": How to reduce baking stress

>>7731 Pastebin.com works with Mac OS

>>7642 Text editor for a Mac: Atom >>7643, >>7651, >>7729

>>7768 Bakers need detachment >>7770, >>7773

>>7780 Plz don't edit another baker's notables >>7780, >>7784, >>7798, >>7804, >>7809, >>7811, >>7815, >>7817

>>7896, >>7898 Bakers don't want to be ID'd by number

>>8039 Baker school is attracting shills–must be over the target

>>8139 Q Bakes: when to bake & late-minute Q posts

>>8237 Tell anons to plz state the main point when posting Q proofs, etc.

——— Class #6 (3/19/20)

>>8352 Note-taking wo/baking, baker's assist controversy >>8365, >>8385, >>8413, >>8419, >>8433

>>8544, >>8562 When to drop note-taker notables

>>8788 "8chan" baking vs "WWG1WGA" baking, cooperation w/anons

>>8373 Who's responsible for checking notables (bakers or anons)? >>8388

——— Class #7 (3/26/20)

>>8885 The perfect bake: composition, timing, snipe >>8887, >>8888 (You), >>8889

>>8911 Role of bakers on the board plus bakers/BOs >>8915 (You), >>8923 (You)

>>9127 Baking thread a continuing resource

>>9136 Taking notables/baking for a baker

>>9186 (You), >>9193 (You) New bakers coming online, anon encouragement

>>9181 New baker's dough & notes plus feedback >>9188 (You), >>9191 (You), >>9195

>>9191 How to handle notables when there is more than one baker per bread

——— Class #8 (4/02/20)

>>9411 Differing ideas about baker demeanor >>9375, >>9382, >>9404, >>9411, >>9418

>>9431 Current relationship with /qr/ BO @fj

>>9337 Bread title–put colon AFTER the bread number

>>9373 Qs after @600 - don't let shills distract

>>9375 Notable posting, timing 200-400-600

>>9386 Bakers message to anons

>>9380 Notables post after the bake

——— Class #9 (4/09/20)

>>9970, >>9981, >>10011, >>10017 Formatting bun numbers, notables page

>>10083, >>10106 Tell anons of needed baker changes in advance; timing issues

>>10081 Note-taker steps to bake for first time

>>10087, >>9993 Formatting issues

>>10075 Importance of tagging the dough post

>>10078, >>10101 Ideas for streamlining notables; what to include/exclude?

>>10106, >>10119, >>10116, >>10167 "Last call crew" (anons/shills who call out problems at end of bake)

>>10101, >>10111 Telling anons from muffins

>>10132, >>10148, >>10163 Ignore muffins when baking

>>10133 Creating a pastebin early

>>10226 Can't make it to class? Suggestions

——— Class #10 (4/16/20)

>>10547, >>6892 Baker handoffs

>>10555, >>10815 Max post length: 4700-5000 characters, ~200 lines (results vary).

>>10581 Good comms with anons

>>10696 How to report a thread or post

>>10763 Team baking (baker plus note collector) >>10765, >>10764

——— Class #11 (4/23/20)

>>11354 Example of baker get trying to get nommer to be more specific

INTRO TO BAKING

Qresearch is a 24/7 beehive of activity where anons post their diggs, memes and prayers.

For this to happen requires bakers--which is why they have been called "the core of this board."

Bakers perform several key functions:

* Posting notables for each bread.

* Baking breads (transition the board from one bread to the next).

* Kneading the dough (the board structure), keeping it clean, tidy, and up-to-date.

* Setting the tone for each bread via their choice of bread title and /comms/ with posters.

When all goes well, baking is a fun & exciting opportunity to serve. When things get wonky and shills attack--bakers carry on anyway.

Shadilay, fellow bakers!

OTHER BAKING RESOURCES

Baker's grab bag

* Baker's Tools App (Version 0.7.2) >>6646, >>6650, >>6652, >>6654, >>6656, >>9584, >>9589, >>9597, >>9601

* Try Atom as a text editor for Macs >>6925, >>6934, >>7055, >>7070

* Meme-making app kek.gg >>8771

* Crazy Bakes: wonky board, lags, baking from Index, "flood detected", dup breads >>9960

* How's your mouse for baking? >>10617

* Font used for baking school slides: >>10642, https://www.dafontfree.net/find.php?q=impact

* Quik Pic bake instructions >>7549

* Original baking video >>7076 (shows how to make room for new notables)

* Overcoming paywalls >>10844

* Pastebin.com problems & alternatives >>11645, >>11609, >>11619, >>11620, >>11627, >>11640, >>11641, >>11644

Dealing with notables

* Ten Baker Tips for Notables >>8177

* Asking anons to state the main point >>8237

* Anon tips for better notables (bakers can tell anons) >>>/qrb/41937, https://pastebin.com/yq7wQyvn

* Bakers on what they look for in notables >>8351, >>8315, >>8698

* Muh Collector "how to" on notables >>9006, >>9009

* Advanced Google searching protocols https://pastebin.com/raw/JuK0xUDb

* How to read a scientific study >>9036833

Free image/video screenshots & production tools

* Image screenshots PrtSc/snipping tool + MS-Paint https://youtu.be/KvXxCE1gxOE

* 8kun video limits >>8760

* Bandicam Screen Recorder >>8759, >>8762 (also: OBS, Kdenlive, Audacity)

* VLC Player >>8714, >>8715, >>8766

* Windows Movie Maker for Win 10 >>8712

* YTCutter (makes vid clips from YT) >>8767

* Twitter Video Downloader >>8768

* NVidia cards (can screen-capture vids) >>8785

* Forensically (forensics magnifier) https://29a.ch/photo-forensics/#forensic-magnifier

* ShotCut NLE (open source cross platform video editor) https://shotcut.org/

* MFFmpeg (decodes & plays any format) https://ffmpeg.org/ >>>/qresearch/8507906

* Natron (cross-platform video compositor) >>>/qresearch/8507913

* Handbrake (good for transcoding) >>>/qresearch/8507921

* GIMP & GMIC (image editing) >>>/qresearch/8507956

* Invidio (copies YT vids, restricted or not, no ads or signup) >>8792

Baker tips IRL

>>8829 Baker's Tips - Read me first

>>6331 #01 - Ghosting a bred

>>6331 #02 - Baker changes

>>6378 #03 - TOR baking

>>6651 #04 - Defeating shills with facts & humor

>>7339 #05 - Announce you're baking (#11 too)

>>6892 #06 - Baking/note-taking protocols

>>7181 #07 - Use RED TEXT and BOLD in handoffs

>>7363 #08 - Try to notice when a cat is baking

>>13038 #09 - Respecting other bakers' notables

>>8174 #10 - Make sure to copypasta the whole page

>>8803 #11 - Announce you're taking responsibility

>>8822 #12 - Embed baker changes to provide more info

>>8824 #13 - Watch out for unknown bakers bearing gifts

>>8825 #14 - Use named pastebins to defeat shill complaints

>>8826 #15 - Responding to shills trying to suck up baker's time

>>8827 #16 - Be aware of muh joos bakers

>>8828 #17 - All bakers screw up

>>10445 #18 - Just do it--bake!

>>9590 #19 - Don't be afraid to bake

>>10789 #20 - Post notes early so changes can be made

>>10791 #21 - No /comms/ creates misunderstandings

>>10792 #22 - Defeat shil ls with humor

Baker teaching stories

>>10114 How shills attack bakers--an example ("baker saves notables for his twats")

>>10787 LIVE example of picking up a mid-bread bake

>>10710 Why do you bake? >>10729, >>10731, >>10732, >>10744

Ideas & proposals

>>10253 Dough revision history proposal

this dough will change as we collect new resources & refine what's here

>>13068

Hello friends

Baking class in a few,

Anybody here yet??

It might be slow tonight frens, there's like 5 different happenings right now.

But here if needed to discuss or answer questions.

Got old bakers? new bakers? curious bystanders?

Evening All, good to see you.

>>13079

What are the habbenings anon?

>>13081

D'oh, nods head.

>>13084

>>13081

kek, fun times..

oops this is the right one

>>13083

just a note, Teach

CM seems to be fooling with the way pages render

both the white space and horizontal lines

white space went back to the way it used to be (multiple spaces don't collapse into one space) but --— lines don't render the way they did used to, had to switch em out for real lines (the kind we used for q posts).

>>13088

triple !!! - you musta had a fancier pw, mine is simpler

>>13089

For Anons Who Would Like to Bake Tonight

The teaching slides and videos here will take you step by step through the baking process.

Give them a watch and make your own practice thread here in comms as you do.

Come back and let us know if you're stuck on anything, have any questions and / or if you'd like to post your practice bakes.

Step by Step Baking Instructions

>>7594 PREPARATION

>>7606 STEP 1 - Find the Current Dough

>>7615 STEP 2 - Copy the Current Dough

>>7624 STEP 3 - Paste The Dough Into Text Editor

>>7640 STEP 3a - Trim The Notables Section

>>7646 STEP 3b - Make space for your new notables.

>>7660 STEP 4 - Create A New Thread

>>7670 STEP 5 - Enter Thread Info And Post Thread

>>7681 STEP 6 - Post the Rest of the Dough

>>7698 STEP 7 - Make A New Pastebin & Make The Dough Post

>>7706 STEP 8 - Post Your New Thread Link

Extras: Timing the Bake

>>9994 (You) Timing the Bake, >>10005 (You) Linking between boards, >>10293 Teaching files (screenshot)

>>13088

is your tripcode staying in the Name box across posts? I am in edit mode, and i have to retype.

>>13091

kek, a lil rusty told me that one was the cadillac so i went for it

>>13090

Thanks anon, I saw the dough formatting all changed after CM made the formatting changes.

Have been trying to re-format the dough and as as you say, — aren't rendering ok.

I was taking lines from Q posts but that was tricky, ended up using clear spaces.

Any ideas for what's best?

>>13093

It stays in across messages and boards.

>>13089

i've collected links for a lot of tools but haven't used many (if any) yet.

Watcha got??

>>13086

>>13089

>>13092

8kun Forensics

I thought today we could talk about 8kun forensics and hopefuly learn from each other along the way.

The idea of looking through something together in order to solve a puzzle seems fitting for us QRfags, and something I thought you'd all enjoy.

Forensics are completely different from baking, however for seasoned bakers they're extremely useful skillz.

And so, as we have a subject, this evening we'll be working together to solve the slow infiltration of the QR dough which culumated last week and learning which tools we can use to aid us in any forensics dig.

Please make yourselves comfy, have our Q&A as always, ask and answer questions, chat about baking if you wish and I'll post away for you to follow the puzzle or come back to it later.

Let's begin…

>>13098

>>13097

Simple tools anon. Whatcha got?

The forensic tools we'll use this evening are -

- Previous QR General Threads

- qresear.ch to find them

- Control+F (search for text in a page on Windows) or

- Command+F (search for text in a page on Mac)

- A text editor to document findings

Ok, now i'm outta edit more. let's see what happens….

>>13084

ty gy..always have the dankest ones for me no matter what they are.

>>13102

Funny Self Depreciating Story Of Olde

One night Q was dropping carpet bombs and the bread and kitchen were ablaze.

It felt like shills outnumbered us 6 or 7 to 1. Baker here was caught with having a tainted dough, not knowing what to do to revert, or who to trust to give them a good one.

Someone appeared and offered a 'clean paste', and guess what. That baker took a paste from a dude flashing pic related.

KEK

When his injection was good the shill was happy and thanked me by posting me posting me video related or something like it. Baker was like 'A', be in the military now.

KEK

Yes that was this baker. Can you imagine muh feelz when I realized I'd been duped. I felt like a real fool, that I can tell you.

So as bad as it gets folks, the mistakes we make and learn from, just remember that you didn't take a dupe paste from a dude in an NSA jacket.

>>13102

ah, this is what you talkin' about last thread….ok, i don't know what the SS is (the spreadsheet?)

>>13101

>dankest

make em or collect em?

gy memes are always dank

>>13105

Yes, the SpreadSheet from SpreadSheetAnon

>>13102

not anything like now.

kek.

>>13108

good - you just answered another q for me. That anon sent me a really swell message yesterday.

>>13106

>>13104

Forensic Tools

The forensic tools we'll use this evening are -

- Previous QR General Threads

- qresear.ch to find them

- Control+F (search for text in a page on Windows) or

- Command+F (search for text in a page on Mac)

- A text editor to document findings

If you're unsure how to use any of the above, shout out. Don't be stuck.

Let's Work Backwards To Show The Slow Infiltration Of The QR Dough

On 04/30/20 (Thu) 13:03

As we''re probably all aware, in Baking Class #11, a newanon we hadn't seen in class or baking, appeared out of the blue posting a 'new dough version'

Newanon proceeded to post about dough changes they were making and ask for feedback.

Bakers and anons mostly ignored and eventually told them to stop.

Source - https://8kun.top/comms/res/11086.html#11675

>>13107

make a few pepes but nothing outside of the basic meme generator-add a head or augment others with .png's I've found but ones like that I leave to the masters.

There was a day in yonder times I was graphicsfag but not any longer.

back when a full-page monitor was a hard thing to come by.

>>13111

yep.

>>13041

>>13074

Do bakers really think doing "baking seminars" helps them to blend in and be perceived as totally commited patriots, when at the same time there seems to be no baker in current bread and no notables are posted when 600+ posts into the bread?

there is one thing that bakers are needed for, bakers have one job - and that job is not doing baking seminars, it´s actually baking the bread, collecting and posting notables and having anons check them.

this whole bread is fake. and only done by bakers know they are glowing bright as fuck.

>>13115

clown baker now posted notables, at 680 posts into the bread, done so late on purpose, so that anons have no time to call for the many 'missed' info before it´s baked. (a known pattern.)

bakers who shitpost here while not doing their actual job are not here to help.

>>13111

Checked trips

Teach, This one

Previous QR General Threads, I dont know where to find previous threads.

>>13112

few memeanons are masters

i've made a lot of memes

but have a pretty limited no of techniques i know

and don't draw

so it's ALL adaptive

but fun to see what you can do with what ya have

>>13117

>>13115

u are free to post here, like anyone

but if you get excessively nasty or spammy

u ain't gonna be here very long.

-out

>>13116

Tools Used

How did we get back to that thread to find out what happened?

- We look at threads from around 10 back.

If they're not changed we can look at threads further back.

If they're changed we can look at more recent threads until we can find where the changes took place.

- Use 'ctrl+f' to search for keywords such as 'update' 'dough' pastebin' are a start.

- When you located an interesting post, copy the UID (user ID), hit Ctrl+F and paste it into the search box.

Use your vertical keyboard keys to scroll through that users posts.

>>13121

>>13120

bakers who fuck up bakes on purpose, bake clown posts, leave out actual info, post notables late so anons cannot check before bakes - while spending time in this bs fake bread are not here to help, they are clowns, controlled opposition, gatekeepers - and they glow (which is the reason for even having this bread).

if they don't bake it my way it isn't right

my way is the ONLY way

>>13123

take yer meds rainman and fuck off back to general

>>13122

>>13118

You can find previous QR General threads, even those which have fallen off the catalog at

qresear.ch anon

Bring it up anon and try it out.

Say you're looking for General #100502. Do a search there for 100502 and you'll find it.

You can always search for phrases you remember from a conversation or a dig.

qresear.ch has all the General threads archived, so it's a goldmine for digz and as we're doing here, forensics.

>>13096

>>13122

One of the reasons Rusty proposed a log for dough changes is to make that process quicker/easier - assuming that the bred # for the change was recorded and maybe relevant post nos.

If you're trying to pin down changes in one bread (before you bake again), it's pretty hard. Why many corrections happen in gy or early am breads.

>>13115

Filtered

>>13103

Evening fren, just saw your post.

>>13125

>#10502

awesome!

>>>/qresearch/8203059

apologies for that.

>>13075

Where ya wanna roll to?

>>13068

am I too late?

>>13132

never….

>>13133

MEANWHILE ON ENDCHAN…

"i had to hijack the bread to get it into notables and the dough"

https://endchan.net/qanonresearch/res/46596.html#46772

"just gonna have to hijack again another time. moves and counter moves"

https://endchan.net/qanonresearch/res/46596.html#46773

SO LET'S GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING

*How can we go back to the beginning?

Say we want to find out when the Endchan War Room Thread started. How do we find out?

Hopefully you'll all share which method you use as well. Here's what I do -

- Go to qresear.ch and search for 'War Room' or 'Current OPS', which is the heading they added their OPs to in the dough.

- Scroll down to the last entry on the page (this will be the first time it appeared in the dough)

- Open the link in a new tab

- Check the thread number and if it was the old War Room data or revised

- Did you find #11214?

So there is an actual bread, the general bread. that is the one anons post info in, the one Q drops in.

in this bread the baker who baked a clown post lb, left out info, posted the notables at 650+ posts into the bread, now announced to not be spending time in the bread and be back at 300 posts.

no patriot would take a bake while not actually being there.

obviously the very reason for having bakers is to follow the bread closely, look up sauce and check info to find the most relevant stuff to be put in notables, there is a baker - one dedicated person - to only spend time for that - enabling anons to do anons wirk.

simply baking what anons call is not at all what baking is about.

so in the actual relevant bread, the bakers left.

at the same time, there is this 'baking seminar shitpost' bread, where there are plenty of bakers posting right now.

actual bread: no baker.

unimportant bread: plenty of bakes.

GO FIGURE.

>>13136

FUCK OFF

>>13132

"never" was my answer too

good to see u

yer a bakin' fool these days

hope u got time for sleep and fun

>>13136

I this AFLB? seems it must be

>>13137

after fish fry run I was sleepy, hence late

>>13122

Teach, do you have a 'control F' button for phonefagging, tanks.

>>13138

seems I am it during business hours, I'm guud with that, getting rest again

>>13139

the name of the muffin matter very little.. IT's a muffin.

>>13140

np just woke up at 4. looks like moar drops.

rb asked for new baker or help nb so if I vanish that's where I am at.

he may want to stick with it if the drops continue

>>13133

just as an fyi, sgrvl's moved on now

see https://endchan.net/qanonresearch/res/46596.html#q46866

however he is still recruiting meme warriors:

https://endchan.net/qanonresearch/res/46596.html#q46892

>>13145

till he gets bored and goes off his lithium again

>>13146

I didn't put that one in, I did however, take it out

>>13132

Evening doc.

>>13137

what a great argument.

>>13139

callling me a name (the name of a clown that i regularly call out) is also not exactly an argument.

facts: bakers shitpost here hoping to be perceived commited in offering the great service of baking seminars, while at the same time not doing the actual job of bakers.

(and this seminars have started after many anons called out bakers baking shilly!)

nothing more to say.

obvious to anyone.

>>13151

>nothing more to say.

Promise?

>>13142

the 9-5 shift, kek

but yer also doing later

hats off, baker.

>>13137

have resolved to try to avoid f word for…hmmm…well, at least 24 hours, went over my quota.

>>13151

wha????

dun like "muffin"?

howsabout "lollipop"?

muffins and lollipops nice, right?

>>13156

this baker burns muffins, kek

>>13155

try not to and rarely in general but they are doing the same shit over there

usually that will stop it in here and they will FO back there.

'Cause they have the last word….kek

>>13158

that was the news then

Bam fingered

Biden too

Killary lookin guud (sarc)

Dims got problems

>>13157

Muffins must pop right outta the pan with they see you comin.

>>13158

Yeah, and Hannity will be there to take credit for it all….worth watching for the kek

>>13161

as long as an anon gets a kek, it was worth it.. Baking first though, the muffins get enough attention as is.

>>13163

that was prolly me that said got it

>>13163

what's interesting is that when someone's being sneaky their posts are deliberately kinda vague. Busy baker ends up scratching his head but has not time to puzzle things out.

>>13167

mighta been, but wnb walked into one of these traps (might be a few of them tho)

>>13166

Album Title: "Perfect buns and burned muffins"

>>13168

yeah I went back, wnb took dough and used it

I never do that, even when legit, I open mine and change it, mid bread

wnb passed it to me

unknowingly, of course

>>13169

wow

ok bakers, fess up

'which of you has a secret life as a rock star??

>>13152

>>13157

>>13159

>>13161

>>13160

greetings folks

Remember to ignore muffins

ignore cauliflower s too

Forensics…

really depends on what you're looking for

in this case it looks like you'r investigating chain of custody of the dough and determining the point of change

I have nothing to add on that subject at this time

>>13166

do you have your icing anointment utensil?

>>13170

i think that's the one that d'oh got attacked for, even tho it's obvious from the bred that it wasn't his bake

>>13144

can confirm? (if yer here)

>>13174

he took the bake from me

had been changed all day, no one said a word

Q posting, busy

>>13169

>>13171

not a rock star but when I was young a family member used to work as a housecleaner in the laurel/coldwater/malibu canyon area. met a few of them as a yougin. Dick Dale was a frequent guest at their house when I was a kid. This was in the mid 70's

>>13170

it i recall, that was a confusing bread

mebbe 3 pastebin's? (where the "ringer" was the last)

sometimes there's just so much going on

i can think of a lot of breads where i had to do too much stuff at once and didn't check something etc

everyone tries to be careful bc you can get nailed for just about anything around here

why i save screenshots, use a named pb, and communicate whenever's weird with the situation or bread

can help a lot when question arise.

>>13174

confirm.

Wasn't even awake when it habbened.

>>13172

All this is very interesting, thanks!

I found this first instance of Newfag Resource Guide

https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/8731979.html#8732802

Is this the same guy?

>>13171

kek, I've been in a few bands.. nothing beyond local/regional though.. guitar/singer..

>>13135

No, I found this

https://8kun.top/qresearch/res/101318.html#101661

>>13178

yeah, it was, when I went back day baker was all flustered, that's why the pastebins, I saw how it happened then, not wnb's fault at all, created chaos to fool him

>>13135

Yes, yes teach found it up top.

>>13181

Glad to hear it anon. Well done on finding that.

I looked into it also and believe the same anon/s added the Newfag Resource section to make room in the dough only, as a filler they new no-one was bothered about, so they could remove it later as they did.

I believe they added that section.

If you find anything, please post it. Good to see you doing some digz anon.

>>13172

not at all boring, teach

guerilla bread-baking

>dough changes

dough changes fine. but i posted yesterday that seems like after no big dough changes for a while (except mebbe two-page notes), there's been a sudden push for change, and it's gotta be NOW. - like Pelosi in Dec.

The changes we make affect a worldwide movement. Big ship to turn, my 2cents.

>>13178

also tried it at an earlier time, btw

remember when I put in the int'l threads?

the dough got wonky

I was told to use the whole pastebin

I opened it and only used the int'l threads

not the whole thing

like I said, I don't use other's pastebins

>>13174

to clarify, I don't ever really "have a bake" as the end result is always produced by the baker that takes the notes collected.

But it appears that one was the result of a notetaker at some point-hence the the instant "it's d'oh's fault".

there is moar than one notetaker and the other one I have seen is in the gy timeframe.

>>13173

no..I used that on Mary from Canoga Park so it's not clean

>>13173

Good evening.

>>13173

well, it's about tools used for preserving the dough but something to help bakers deconstruct/digest the events of the last few days.

>>13194

Confession!

I put the Tor vid back in da dough

feel better now

>>13175

nobody here should have to offer a defense for anything, shit comes pretty far around here, and we just deal with it as best we can.

thought it was really weird that you'd get blamed for that, but i guess anything can happen. Shill just puts something out there and counts on the fact that most anons don't have the time to really check it out. Same technique msm uses to malign Q.

>>13195

Well, that's not exactly a capital offense. Good to have it there anyways.

>>13198

if I hadn't I'd be the one needing it

now that it's there we won't ever need it

>>13196

>>13199

i'm goin over to other thread now.

>>13196

thx teach

great class.

>>13196

ty sir!

o7

>>13196

ty for the summation of that one.

>>13196

Nice presentation. Explains a lot o7 Over to the other stream with me…

-out

>>13196

appreciate the break down

pulls it together

easy to see this way

tyvm

at the risk of dredging up something that needs to just go away, and only doing so because at the end of #12 oss was still on the rag about it.

did you know he was also tyb….

>>13207

he is the THANK YOU BAKER anon? kek

>>13194

ya, I watched it unfold

I'm reading the posts in this thread

following the logic and chain of posts

I understand there are a couple of things here

one is the immediate case… those recent changes and trying to determine exactly what happened

and the other deeper and I feel more important thing here is how to quickly spot changes in the dough

I once was passed a dough that had a few changes slipped in

some youtube links were revised with some other shortened link, they did lead to the same video but the shortened link used a URL that was not allowed by 8chan I tried to bake with it only to have page 3 hang and spit up an error about an illegal URL

that was an interesting bake

small changes are hard to spot

sometimes when things are moving quick big errors in the dough are hard for the baker to spot and correct on the fly

>>13208

yes. he sperged out on that on me before I had a chance to go back and look at that thread .

It finished.

Will have something moar to say about that entire situation when the time is right.

>>13205

ty teach, I try

helps to mull it over afterwards

thanks for the forum

>>13196

nice presentation teach

thank you for your efforts on behalf of bakers

>>13163

That paste is totally off.

>>13196

> we've all learned a lot from this

>>13114

selective editing, the trololo posts were replies to an anon who posted the classic one. these are versions by other singers, nothing to do with the bake

>>13133

those guys aren't me at all, but i can see the confusion - lowercase type, using "welp"…

not being involved in the rivalry/war, i was happy to put whatever the war room anon wanted in there, especially since regular bakers were tired of them and somewhat irritated, and there were regular tensions over that.

>>13163

>absolutely gone

no it isn't, it's in the dough

>>13172

>don't know what WR means.

yeah, had a legit brainfreeze and didnt make the WR connect as war room immediately

>>13178

> that was a confusing bread

yes, it was soon after a big Q blitz and there were mistakes in the caps, a missing Q post, and a dead link in globals.

baker did a fine job catching notables and posting bread but didn't catch all the updates - i had seen them though, and had just kept updating the paste i was working on, naturally.

figured the baker could just grad what he needed or go with the whole thing, he chose the latter.

>>13179

>Is this one strange, or is it me?

i can confirm i am not a separate personality of gerbil

>>13191

yup, lots of anons might say "welp".

or another expression.

ooooh, how it tickles the almonds, eh?

ooooh, how it just flavors the dig with such thrill of discovery?

thing is, in this case the bubble bursts, because i never set foot in endchan, i'm not that anon talking about hijacking the dough. not sure how to be believable to you other than tell you, though.

but what i can tell everyone is to be careful with your conclusions, and interpretations of evidence. last few days of OSS have more than shown how gruesome it can get, sadly.

so, appreciate the effort and intent in the presentation, but regretfully have to recognize there are flaws as well.

>>13172

Learning a lot!

I watched that go down and wanted to do something but didnt know what to do, because it was so obvious…

The shill pulled 'an exchange of money trick' Honestly thought it was a test for the new bakers…

wuts up kneegroids! Been on the road to mama’s bunker in the NC hills. Just settling in. Hope all are doing well

sup class

thought i'd drop in a live note from last bread

>>9072470 Message to Bakers from ArchiveAnon: don't "spoiler" text, messes with archives

i was spoliering *redacted* - redactred

in my notables

i guess the archives scrub it

>>13222

on this note:

a baker to baker global doesnt need to be there forever

48 hours is good

3 days too

but not forever

>>13221

good to see ya. long day you had

Good trip?

>>13224

9 hours of covid fear pron interstate signs, but other than that, smooth sailing.

>>13226

it's pretty bad here in socal too. can't speak to the freeway signs though.

mask nazis.

muh medical condition precludes me from wearing one.

>>13231

Other than beautiful, I have no words.

>>13232

gotta de-compress from time to time

the great outdoors has always helped me

I seek it often

Teach, What does the (u) and (h) mean next to a picuture?

What purpose do the two files for a pic, serve?

Where can I find pic from old breads?

Was 8kun designed to loose the pics on purpose and why?

Thank you

Teach or Gyb, how do I post a pic without doxing myself?

Thanks again.

who had the morning bake?

absolute faggit

>>13235

that's a good question

I don't know

the (h) seems to be a link to the graphic thumbnail

the (u) doesn't seem to be an actual link to anything I can determine

the hash involved doesn't match the thumbnail of the graphic so I don't know

>>13251

bakes seem to be getting hit hard every bred

can't turn around wo some new bakin' crisis.

'sup this morning?

>>13235

>>13252

>What does the (u) and (h) mean next to a picture?

(u) downloads the file with the name that was originally provided by the first person who uploaded that file.

(h) downloads the file with the name used by the 8kun system (the SHA-256 hash of the file content).

These two links provide the exact same file (the full image posted to the board) but with a different name.

>>13235

>Where can I find pic from old breads?

>Was 8kun designed to loose the pics on purpose and why?

Yes this is by design, to save server space I guess? There's a component of 8chan/8kun called "alacrity" that is responsible for purging old data, it used to be mentioned in the 8chan faq page but I can't find any specific info now.

What pics are you looking for? There are a few anons that keep automated archives of just about everything, including me.

>>13235

not a great archivist anon but can answer at least 1 question: all graphics from QR are archived as far as i know. there are many graphics file depositories in the dough. I am relatively newfag compared to some others here, perhaps someone who is more of a graphicsanon can answer.

Later:

Earlier posted two of your questions on /qr/;

>>13345 is one answer, the other is here:

>>>/qresearch/9089305 hope it helps.

>>13236

>posting a pic wo/doxxing myself

what kind of picture? if a screenshot, you just have to make all identifying info is not there (e.g., on twitter).

>>13335

Looks like I'm wrong about all images being archived, learn so much here, tx for the question anon.

>>13235 see

>>13367

>>13369

Came by qr after working in meta, bred was ghosted but anon stepped up.

<<<<<THIS ANON.

Was so good to see a baker for whom we all have such regard. Shadilay!

>>13236

pic from a camera often have data embedded that can dox you

the camera embeds data in what is called EXIF file

IF you have a camera pic you want to post, take a screenshot of the picture and send that instead.

the screenshot will not have the EXIF data embedded

>>13345

I love you.

>>13345

Well, I looked for a personal pic but iit's been voided from qresear.ch and Tineye. Even though the all the info is there, if you know what to look for..exactly know.

From class on Thursday, worked out how to find things, so… I figure it was also considered…personal?

Nm, :/

Will keep, your dilgence in mind… Your a good one!

Class every week, builds my lack in how things are and how they work. Thank you for sharing and teaching me.

X marks the spot.

>>13373

How would you, take a clean screen shot?

WITHOUT, any details?

If you teach me why and how, I'll get it right every time.

>>13345

Maybe later… The pic could have poisoned me?

Good thing,

I'm also left handed.

>>13252

While having the moment to say this, thank you.

>>13332

doing well. oss back at it again in last nights bred. what a supreme faggit.

>>13345

>(u) downloads the file with the name that was originally provided by the first person who uploaded that file.

…or some other naming rule decided by the 8kun servers, it looks like this isn't always the original filename.

>>13380

>OSS back at it

Too bad - here in Meta too, red text and all.

U well?

>>13392

I'm good as usual and hope you are too.

I stay out of meta.

hear what habbens from youz guys

>>13407

well, it's not all conflict. having a good discussion about shill bakes right now.

did you see above, saw nwb last night for the first time since nov.,

>>13371

made my day.

BB, I'm looking for you on Discord.

OSB

Old School Baker

>>13414

Invite me in and vet me.

>>13416

Bro#4021

testtest

>>13412

I'll wade over later..for the first time.

that is a surprise. good to see

>>13414

>on Discord.

y u do dis

Baking class archives: class #1 - #12

#1 http://archive.vn/8v5Vm

#2 http://archive.is/DDGZr

#3 http://archive.is/CRZz0

#4 http://archive.is/vYNT2

#5 http://archive.vn/lXDbZ

#6 http://archive.vn/wip/Xx8P3

#7 http://archive.vn/sNOnb

#8 http://archive.vn/up93u

#9 http://archive.vn/kqKOx

#10 http://archive.vn/vBiRO

#11 http://archive.vn/5tAb8

#12 http://archive.vn/lZU6v

(archived by gyb; videos do not archive)

updated archive for baking seminar dough

>>13074

hello baker-fren

(and anyone else in the neighborhood)

finally have a chance to play catch-up for class.

- Just updated the class archive.

- Is it ok if i go back and edit dough for early classes and number them (#1, #2, etc.), so it's uniform?

- Am now in early stages of FAQ page drawing from pages 2 and 3 in dough. Also developing a list to ask bakers to fill in any existing gaps.

- Also attempting to compile some stuff for bakers to look at which would gives rules of thumb for baking (complete with a wide variety of options). Purpose is both to help new bakers make better decisions and to give bakers who are trying to decisions in usual situation something to rely on, so shills can't do the damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't thing. If we can actually come up with something, it can be posted (at least for a while) in Globals so anons can see. Also, so they can comment (and we can make revisions if needed).

>>13499

>>13499

A bit more on #4:

Broadest goal is just to generate a doc listing of generally accepted baking conventions that we've been using all along.

Would help new bakers learn unspoken baking conventions that aren't really covered in the step by step instructions such as handoffs, dough tagging, ghosting, two-baker breads, advice for working with note-takers, etc.*

A byproduct would be to identify issues that come up in unusual situations.

Examples: shill bakes, really bad bread lag, board freezing at end of bread, and conventions about which bakers may disagree.

Important to include: the fact that the vast majority of baking mistakes are mistakes not fuckery.

''Very hard to newish anons to realize just how rare a perfect bake is. Bakers often take bakes under less-than-great circumstances. They may be sick, tired, injured or caring for children. To be slammed by shills for mistakes on top of that is unacceptable. While we can't keep shills from shilling, we can remind anons of what baking really requires and why

*Example: ghosting is by custom done almost every night on gy. But during daytime, it's a different story bc Q is more likely to post. So if a ghost must be done, baker should say so ASAP using red text or bold, keep asking for a replacement, and clearly announce when it's gonna be a "hard stop." If a baker does all that and still can't get a replacement, he should be able to sign out w/a clear conscience. And if shill later tries to give him shit, to tell em to GTFO.

>>13503

I understand the concept of ghosting but……

some bakers use it as a tap and others just to see if a lotsa will show up, baker come forth, I ghost when I have a notetaker during the day but I call it a break, ghost implies no baker watching, confusion ensues, easy grab?

>>13518

>>13518

RE daytime ghost baking :

No baker wants to ghost during non-gy shifts.

>[ghosting] just to see if a 'lotsa' will show up

Well, why does baker want to see if another baker will show up? Usually bc he has baked a lot and is tired/needs a break. Whole lotsa joke comes from shills implying there are lotsa bakers when they aren't. Sometimes bakers just need to stop playing 'parent' role and let anons figure things out on their own.

When i ghost during the day, it is always due to physical limitations, espec recently. If set up properly, can competently bake about one and a half breads when there are no specific problems like eyestrain, so i usually take a bake by announcing I can bake one - and asking for handoff halfway thru each time i post notes. A lot of other bakers know i'm a 'one bred' spot baker for dayshift and will spell me nb if they can. Otherwise, will be forced to ghost @100 or @200 nb. (A baker who's an md reminded me not to mess around with eyestrain especially. None of us should do that.)

Right now, I only take day bakes as an e-baker or when it's a ghosted Q bake. Last one was nerve-wracking coz my baking speed was down, hadn't planned to bake, and wasn't set up. Did it anyway, coz i was the only baker there.

>ghost implies no baker watching

Right now, i often watch over ghost bakes when i can't bake properly. Will give support (fetch sauce, answer newfag q's, or help with dough repairs). Also watch out for shills or other trouble. In a pinch, may e-bake. Both bakers and oldfags try to watch out for the bred if a baker isn't signed in.

>>13546

>No baker wants to ghost during non-gy shifts.

No joke there.

Early in the board's history, there simply weren't many bakers to work with on day shift.

From experience, regular baking hours during earlier volunteer tenure were done while at work (employer didn't give a flying fuck as long as I got my regular assignments done).

Handoffs usually occurred when I had to leave for home. Impossible to bake behind the wheel.

Ideally, the handoff was a good one, when it happened, but after several calls for a handoff over multiple breads and a need to get home with no backup from Anons, ghosting became imminent; more frequent occurrence back then.

>>13503

Big red text and a clear conscience - pretty much. "Did what I could, have to go home. Let the Anons sort it out."

…

Amazing more shills didn't completely fuck things back then.

Thankfully, with increased eyes on the board, more Anons stepped up as bakers during day shift (God bless RGB) and non-gy ghosting became less frequent.

>>13558

Thanks for sharing DB, history is always guud

I remember when the breads were slow, like maybe 1-2 a day, then poof, things took off, there was a momanon who baked but she got run off for TGFO or whatever, I was on the board but I was not paying full attention to bakers, I remember late night ghosting, spent more time there back then, I don't remember any of the issues till I started baking, last June, lots of board issues when I started but gyb was always there late night to pick up, then he wasn't and I had to learn to "Casper", which meant I was gone, had tapped, this daytime ghost thing is very diff

>>13562

With late night baking, it makes more sense - more Ameribros asleep and American bakers crashing as well. Advocated strongly (still do!) for other bakers around the world to bake fresh during "late" American hours.

Was around February-March 2019 when the international threads really kicked off, largely owing to Q posting in them and the fact that the effort had indeed gone worldwide; mission sort-of accomplished on that front.

Regardless, was not uncommon to get into work early and pick up a super-slow ghost kitchen, sometimes right at the heel of a bread. Scrambling and succeeding on a last-minute bake is one hell of a way to start the day.

>daytime ghost thing is very diff

Different, but not without precedent.

The more Anons realize and act upon the fact that, yes, any Anon can bake, the less likely daytime ghosting will occur in the event no regular volunteers are present.

Suspect bystander effect plays a large role.

>last June, lots of board issues when I started

Any standout issues?

Was not present April 2019 - April 2020.

Been doing research/due diligence in reading up, but I would like to know more from your perspective.

>>13235

Hey anon. Apologies to be late for you questions. See the first has been answered. Thanks anon. Great info.

For the images, generally the archives don’t keep full sized images and some don’t keep the thumbnails due to the server space (costs) that would require.

qresear.ch and qanon.news Archives section seems to be the most probable place you could find an image (at the moment).

>>13141

>>13566

How To Ctrl+F on IOS Devices

In Safari on your iPhone or iPad.

Open a web page in Safari.

Tap the Search bar.

Type the word or phrase that you want to find on the page.

At the very foot of the search results you’ll see search ‘On this Page’.

Tap it and you’ve got Ctrl+F on OIS.

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>>13499

Hey baker. You’ve been busy as usual in here. Thanks for holding the fort.

> and number them (#1, #2, etc.), so it's uniform?

Sure, great idea, makes sense.

> Am now in early stages of FAQ page drawing from pages 2 and 3 in dough

FAQ - excellent! Suggest with any materials that we put them out to anons and bakers and ask for feedback over a couple of weeks, posting them as ‘require feedback’ in global before we use.

I’ve always done that with the baking materials created and had great feedback, then edited until everyone’s happy. That way everyone feels they’ve had a say and part in creating them and all agree to the contents.

You could always post them at the start of class as well requesting feedback, and when finished we could use them in Module 2. Possibly consider making them as concise as poss, maybe using bullet points, as people skim. Possibly you know of the skim effect’?

https://www.mediaupdate.co.za/media/147425/get-your-content-read-seven-ways-to-beat-the-skim-effect

> Also attempting to compile some stuff for bakers to look at which would gives rules of thumb for baking

Nice. I would just say as above. All for as little rules as possible here, to not put bakers off, on the other hand shills take advantage of any holes in the system, so maybe a framework will be helpful. Godspeed baker!

>>13503

Agree.

>>13518

Agree there’s a difference between giving plenty of notice before ghosting and simply tapping w/o warning.

>>13546

> Sometimes bakers just need to stop playing 'parent' role and let anons figure things out on their own.

Agree, it lets anons see that we still need help in the kitchen as well. When there are no gaps in coverage no one sees that. In a push someone will always bake.

>>13499

Just want to let you know that I’m over committed at the moment and can manage the class and baking but any more means something is neglected. Don’t want that to be my family and rl. Hence me not being in here much between classes, but when possible I catch up.

Explaining so you know it’s a time thing.

o7 friend

>>13564

It was a rough time for bakers, there was resistance to fastjack taking over the board, 8bit supported, then didn't, the resistance led to a split with many bakers leaving and going to another board, FJ stopped notables, honestly, I never read the notables till I started baking, I capped what I needed, it was rough because there were even less bakers at that time, that is when the whole bakers union thing really took hold, bout the time you left, when I started baking they complained about my being a union baker, I was just barely a baker, kek The fight was to get anons to participate rather than bakers taking care of it all,

when the board came back up in Nov bakers showed up but had problems baking because the board was very unstable, I seemed not to have that problem, baked through lots of "turbulence", still can, easier with Tor at times, I'm not as fast as i was then, IRL is more serious than before, but I hold the "anons need to nom" thing from last summer

>>13578

I'm sure it's not new though I was blissfully unaware of the pols of the board, got enough of that at work, what made this diff was the split over notables/not notables, QRB is real and the notables bakers went there, they gave it credence, it's a shame they did, really, no balance

>>13558

>>13579

After FJ takeover, remained on /qr/ for three days along with rgb, we were both trying to maintain the 'real' dough. Left due to no sleep, was impossible to continue at that point. Soon after, no traditional /qr/ baker could bake on /qr/ anyway, FJ threw everyone out except his muh joos crew, as you know doc. Until Q said 'revert.'

Continued to bake on /qrb/, we had an int'l baking crew, so there were no coverage gaps despite small crew. Lots of autists there coz comfy board supported deep diggs. I'm still one of two remaining /qrb/ bakers although it is now very slow. I miss what it used to be - an extremely vibrant digging board with very few shills, they just couldn't get a foothold.

>>13568

Good evening, Teach

Internet up and down tonite, better post while i can. baking class thread also, if possible.

>>13566, >>13567 How to Control-F on androids & IOS devices

added to baker dough, thx friend.

>>13568 (and everyone else)

>FAQs & baking traditions/rules of thumb

Definitely playing with both, espec the latter, but it's slow bc organic, not formulated top-down but emerging out of discussions here and in baker's meta.

Also dislike rules unless needed for scrapers, etc. Big dif between "rules" and "rules of thumb," bc the latter are designed to describe generally agreed upon conventions that have stood the test of time. That's what makes them organic.

>shills take advantage of any holes in the system

precisely. the aim is both to give new bakers guidelines and to support bakers who find themselves in novel situations where unusual baker decisions would otherwise give shills a leg up.

>Skim effect

Yes online environments require short, pithy info "blurbs." The challenge is that these can easily turn into oversimplifications. But we'll get 'er down, just takes time, thought and feedback. Will take longer than two weeks, tho. I'm fast but not that fast.

Attached is the FAQs and Baking traditions for new page 2. Stuff on current page 2 and 3 will go into an index, if i can manage it, otherwise will become a link (more later).

Baking traditions section is an experiment, good if it works but only if bakers like it and think it's an asset, otherwise we can just go with FAQs

see attached

>>13588

FAQs = short blurbs that give basic links, facts, info.

'Baking Traditions = the art of baking, a little history, more detailed info on handoff protocols, different kinds of bakes, handling notables, dealing with shills, effective comms, dough checking, etc.

Baking FAQs

Four parts of baking (setup, dough post, collecting notables, baking)

Notables basics: quick tips, when to post, final list

Do I need to use a text editor?

What to do when Q posts

How to ghost a bread

Ways to order notables (up vs down)

Handoffs & notifications

How to pick up a ghost bake

"Body too long": what is it and how to handle?

Taking on a late bake (@600 plus)

Baking anonymous or with an ID

What to do if a shill is baking

What equipment is needed to bake?

Making room for new notables & Q drops

How to bake in TOR

Notables vs global notables

What is pastebin and how to use it

Timing the bake

Dealing with shills

How to report bad bread numbers, etc.

How to report CP

Handling end of bread questions

Formatting notable buns

What to check before & after the bake

Slow vs fast breads

Overcoming baking terrors: laggy breds, Ddos, etc.

Baking Traditions

What bakers do

A short history of baking

Firm vs flexible rules

Firm rules & when they're needed [scraper reqt's]

Handoffs in detail

Notables: the movie [more advanced stuff]

Comms with anons

Dealing with shills & shill bakers

Breads with more than one baker

Checking the dough & making repairs

Dealing with the unexpected

10 most common baking mistakes

Index of Q & As and baking tips

>>13578

"Baker's Union" stems from late 2017, if memory serves.

Same shit, different year.

Arguments re: accountability, exclusivity, curation - the usual.

Assuming you and >>13583 referring to the Notables Creek incident re: FJ takeover.

Kind of astonishing that he - his BV crew, really, though that doesn't make him less complicit - waited so long to implement that attack after browbeating the keys away.

FJ either atoning or in zugzwang.

The bitter irony of them complaining about a "union", having become one themselves months prior…

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Props to all fighting that fight.

Doc, gyb, were you aware of board leadership changes (8bit withdrawal; FJ/BV inserts) prior to baking?

How much did Anons really know about who was on staff?

>>13603

More context re: earliest emergence of "Baker's Union":

Around 2017, the term was used as a means of rallying anyone who regularly baked to a point of community. There was a connotation of positivity, intended as a means of support.

Owing to the near-constant state of paranoia and high-and-mighty "y u no bake this right, baker is a shill, look at me for calling him out, gimme dem feelz" mentality, this positivity was short-lived.

Combination of board culture and shill influence.

Since, any sign of coordination between volunteers is immediately met with "muh Baker's Union".

The cogent, non-vainglorious arguments against a "union" are that, yes, any Anon can and should be able to bake, without a need to sign up for anything or give up anything more than the time required to bake; and, yes, shills have attempted to fuck with the kitchen in the past - giving them an avenue to insinuate themselves in a pseudo-"official" way could spell disaster (plot twist - a few did that anyway!).

Those who believe every spelling error or missed call is immediate grounds for a hijack attempt do not make these arguments; insert anecdote about monkeys being sprayed with water here.

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Too much opinion in the above few sentences.

Happy to discuss later (off to workfag).

>>13583

it was a tough time for sure, if you member I had just started baking, maybe a couple of weeks when all that SHTF, I had no opinion either way, just wanted the board to keep going, the split wasn't good for the board, that is still my only opinion, I don't point fingers because I wasn't involved enough then to have an opinion

>>13603

totally unaware, really, I was just to learn to bake, in my profession there is the "discipline" with protocols and procedures, practice, then there is individual license, meaning I am "it", I was trying to learn the "discipline" while learning to be "it" as well, so no backroom knowledge whatsoever, I know FJ was attacked, I didn't care why, he was the BO so he made the rules, that was all I knew

>>13606

Whoa.

Getting into the kitchen in… the middle of that kind of volatility, let's say… could not have been easy.

Respect. No joke.

Mad respect to RGB as well for sticking through.

Difficult to fully asses the total damage resulting from FJ/BV faggotry.

>>13605

"The split" was in progress long prior (before 8bit BO withdrawal); Notables Creek was a propagating crack.

Given the nature of what happened after (August), and the resultant shitcanning of the BV's pre-8kun (downtime), I'm almost certain that 8ch's shutdown was precipitated by the failure of the 5th column to gain control of the board during the Notables Creek power grab.

…As far as archival history can tell me, anyway.

Re: the older boards (early 4ch, cbts, thestorm):

What's your assessment of Anon's general knowledge of /qr/'s history, or does it seem like anyone cares about the topic?

>>13607

I'm not sure how anons feel about it, really, they do think bakers should be mind readers, collectors of all things posted and many have said that bakers should know what to collect, and if I don't I shouldn't be baking, there weren't any other bakers for a long time, it's a luxury to have this time now to ruminate and post, I understand some of what's going on, have a feel for what is good to note but they want pages of notables, for which they don't read or keep up with, surely they don't have an understanding as you do, G was kind to work with me through those times, I've not forgotten that, I let him know I remembered, not many old fags out there, a few for sure, we joke about it when something comes up, so my question is, then, as I am sure the board is "handled", the column was outed, left for another so qr could regroup, I was welcomed back to bake after the shut down

>>13608

Re: Anons on Bakers:

Some things never change.

The mind-reading aspect is the fun part.

That said, Anons have significantly improved on the academic side of research (read: cite and highlight relevant info, link it back to previous work/studies, etc.).

"What to collect" has also evolved, but that can also vary from Anon to Anon re: relevance, importance, interest, save for those that demonstrate relevance/importance (e.g., AB-style delta figures, planefagging).

The lack of reading/keeping up seems to have diminished, or at least fewer Anons are griping about their own lack of diligence. Still happens, but used to be much worse.

<heyheyheyheyhey baker y u no notable

>Please see Bread #XXXX…

At least the Anon gets what they want in the end, just not the way they wanted it.

If memory serves, Notables themselves first started Bread #760, though that may be incorrect, will have to look back later.

Orders of magnitude later… good times.

Re: during the shutdown:

Don't know. That's all FJ. And the BV's/5th column that he shitcanned.

After though, was pissed that I couldn't jump on to volunteer when 8kun fired off - impossible to bake geographically speaking.

Other life objectives to manage as well.

>>13615

A coupla things to add:

1. the edit made was to get rid of an unfortunate typo in the title (takeover 'big' > takeover bid) bc this stuff may get referenced at some point to provide some board history.

2. Purpose is to set the record straight about July 2019 takeover from one anon's pov. It's not to stir up bad feelz about board mgmt at the present time. Not necessary or desirable, we got other fish to fry.

>>13614

thank you for the hindsight, always helps, there were many things at play with board moves, keeping up with the info, Q, and I was woefully unprepared for board politics when I started, really just jumped in to keep the board going, I enjoyed it that much, learned to navigate tech issues with ease, never got my speed up and back, tech issues bogged down for so long not sure I can even do it now, willing to step back, good times, the best but there is change again, I'm OK with that, home life is stepping up for me now as well, do appreciate your time to inform, chroniclers are always good, tyvm

>>13615

you get to pick your frens but not your fam, veli and I started at the same time, many times there was no one else but he and I and we managed pretty well, the fact that we worked well together is a testament to his patience, nothing more, my opinions of bakers is purely from my interactions with them but you have to admit splitting the board caused a deep schism, one anons didn't and don't need, that was my only gripe with that, as for notables, there are those who want to turn the board into MSM, those who want fame for getting one and then there is stuff that is q related and they seem to be fairly mutually exclusive, that is my gripe with notables, anything that educates is good, the more notables there are the less likely anons are going to read and absorb, my 2 cents

>>13621

Schism was caused by FJ, not anons or bakers. Once he dictated the composition of the new dough, bakers were faced with a tough choice: accept it and continue to bake or reject it and protest (by trying to seize back the dough or adding notables back to FJ dough). So yes, there were hard feelings from some anons around that choice for a while. Just so you know, although I was in the "rejector" group, neither was I against the bakers who stayed. Never. When Slighty Stupid stove baker got blasted for "staying", we talked as friends about tough choices. To me, any baker still on the board on July 10 has my lasting respect and admiration.

>>13615

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Never lived in somebody's head rent-free before.

Not a lot of square footage there, though. Good thing it wasn't just his head - more room to move between bad consciences.

Cannot answer his question, though the top of my chain is the best. Nobody kicks more ass than he does, believe me, not even close.

Nevertheless, FJ not surprising given circumstances.

>>13618

Glad to hear irl is good on your end.

Cherish it, man.

Best way to MAGA in the long run.

>>13619

Will discuss more once home.

No definite time on that owing to irl obligations, though. Apologies in advance if delayed.

>>13623

There is always time. I gotta get off the screen for a while, too, before class today. Glad to talk later.

Firstly, apologies for all the IP hopping.

Weird mechanics today owing to phonefagging.

>>13626

Back.

Re: >>13615, CAP 5:

The idea of "new names" springs from extended time spent in the kitchen between October 2018 - March 2019.

Plenty of rallies. Good times.

Not the healthiest thing in the world, though, putting in those kinds of hours.

Not 18-20 hours - impossible. Double digits most days though.

Again, not healthy.

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Paranoia is an infectious disease.

Easily mistaken for diligence.

Disastrous when mistaken for righteous action.

Fatal to any kind of team effort.

Pinnacle of vanity, truth be told - what is paranoia but absolute certainty that the world, indeed, revolves around you?

Again, not healthy.

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In all honesty, FJ is not the primary driver of the faggotry shown after taking up the mantle of BO.

Don't misunderstand - he is demonstrably guilty as fuck for being a tyrannical psychopath that nearly demolished this effort to fight the very same kind of corruption he knowingly implemented and enacted.

That said, he is not the only party involved.

The other BV, Pen, who had been part of /qr/ since its inception, had been begging 8bit for the keys well before 8bit ever withdrew and conferred responsibility to FJ. Prime driver of paranoia that convinced FJ to swing a proxy iron fist.

May not surprise you that two other BV's, instated just prior to 8bit's withdrawal, had joined in on the browbeating and powergrabbing behind the scenes as well. One of them was a "regular" baker beforehand, who it seems has not reappeared since 8kun fired up.

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Q's intervention stopped the crack from propagating further.

Canary in the coal mine, and the ultimate check against FJ craving penis power again.

Did FJ act out any time after Q called him out, or did he go full laissez-faire prior to 8ch shattering?

>>13628

good to know some of the behind-the-scenes intrigue. I know there was at least one BV who was pretty malicious because he was very aggressive when i was baking, threw them outta the kitchen at tail end of bread. The BV who used to 'vet' late night bakers seemed quite civil prior to 8bit's leaving.

>Did FJ act out any time after Q called him out

yes - look at the date on >>13615, CAP 4 -

3 days prior to deplatforming.

There's more but that will serve. I don't hate the guy but he does not exactly inspire confidence.

>>13629

(((them))) meaning him and FJ, when they were baiting me after 650.

link to class #14

>>13590

>>13590

>>13590

>>13629

>one BV who was pretty malicious

Can only speculate…

>3 days prior to deplatforming.

…Christ.

Don't hate him either, truth be told.

Based on the caps, they (FJ/BV's) made a monster for themselves to pretend to fight against.

It appears they made me out to be some kind of villain post-April (for leaving myself, suspected. Not my fault - can't say no to the COC, and not about to fuck that up any time soon). Owing to similarities in times/consistency, they assumed you (and others, apparently) and I were the same, gyb.

Literally tilting at windmills… while I was far away/incapable of hitting the boards, let alone baking.

…How pathetic is that…

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For what it's worth, Pen did hate Bakers - believed they had too much control over the breads, particularly with respect to Notables.

Of course, the bitter irony of him begging for control, on top of bringing on a "regular" baker as co-BV, cannot be overlooked as mere vainglory or cognitive dissonance.

Not to the extent his/others' actions affected the board, anyway.

>>13614

Ever have that trivia moment where you're sure you know, but you have to check to be sure?

Went and looked on history of Notables implementation.

Started Bread #755 with collections of #754, #753, and #751.

(Was really close with #760!)

"Rudimentary" is a polite description; Notables have come a long way.

Orders of magnitude, indeed.

>>13903

I have those moments often

yes, I don't remember notables in the beginning and I don't remember when or why they started, interesting concept, it's become a mess really, now it's used for "news"

we have become MSM, with a twist

kek

I was happy with a repository of research

collections started in 751

and people think this board isn't handled

ty for the history lesson

beginning to need to read again, larger than bytes info

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