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LIVE Baking Seminar
5/07/2020
We in here
Welcome To LIVE Baking Classes in the Q Research Utility Kitchen
We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
We are the bakers who provide the breads for those anons who post Qresearch's open-sourced information, reasoned argument, and dank memes. We do battle in the sphere of baking ideas and baking ideas only. We neither need nor condone the use of force in our work here.
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General Announcements
* Baking Class in /comms/ every Thursday @7pm ET: practice baking, Q&A, all are welcome
Past Class links & archives
>>6125 #1 (2/13/20), >>6368 #2 (2/20/20), >>6885 #3 (2/27/20), >>7185 #4 (3/05/20), #5 >>7568 (3/12/20), >>8274 #6 (3/19/20), >>8872 #7 (3/26/20), >>9320 #8 (4/02/20), >>9787 #9 (4/09/20), >>10510 #10 (4/16/20)
Archives: Classes #1 - #8: >>10784
Step by Step Baking Instructions
Simpler version on the left; more detailed version on the right.
>>7594 PREPARATION >>11170
>>7606 STEP 1 - Find the Current Dough >>11178
>>7615 STEP 2 - Copy the Current Dough >>11183
>>7624 STEP 3 - Paste The Dough Into Text Editor >>11191
>>7640 STEP 3a - Trim The Notables Section >>11194, >>11204
>>7646 STEP 3b - Make space for your new notables. >>11210
>>7660 STEP 4 - Create A New Thread >>11216
>>7670 STEP 5 - Enter Thread Info And Post Thread >>11242
>>7681 STEP 6 - Post the Rest of the Dough >>11248
>>7698 STEP 7 - Make A New Pastebin & Make The Dough Post >>11256
>>7706 STEP 8 - Post Your New Thread Link >>11259
Overview & Extras
>>11161 - Modules 1 & II
>>9994, >>11303 - Timing the Bake
>>10005, >>11283 - Linking between Boards
>>10293 - Archiving & teaching files (screenshot; almost current)
E-BAKE Instructions
>>9252, >>10776
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b446a9 No.13414
BB, I'm looking for you on Discord.
OSB
Old School Baker
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b446a9 No.13416
>>13414
Invite me in and vet me.
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b446a9 No.13417
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f9d945 No.13424
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bf0490 No.13431
>>13412
I'll wade over later..for the first time.
that is a surprise. good to see
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8d880e No.13442
>>13414
>on Discord.
y u do dis
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8f19b6 No.13494
Any new bakers around?
Let us know whether you have questions, would like to shadow bake, or want bakes checked out.
Even if you don't see posts, bakers check in here every day to see 'sup. We are always available to support new bakers or note-takers.
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8f19b6 No.13498
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8f19b6 No.13499
>>13074
hello baker-fren
(and anyone else in the neighborhood)
finally have a chance to play catch-up for class.
- Just updated the class archive.
- Is it ok if i go back and edit dough for early classes and number them (#1, #2, etc.), so it's uniform?
- Am now in early stages of FAQ page drawing from pages 2 and 3 in dough. Also developing a list to ask bakers to fill in any existing gaps.
- Also attempting to compile some stuff for bakers to look at which would gives rules of thumb for baking (complete with a wide variety of options). Purpose is both to help new bakers make better decisions and to give bakers who are trying to decisions in usual situation something to rely on, so shills can't do the damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't thing. If we can actually come up with something, it can be posted (at least for a while) in Globals so anons can see. Also, so they can comment (and we can make revisions if needed).
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8f19b6 No.13503
>>13499
>>13499
A bit more on #4:
Broadest goal is just to generate a doc listing of generally accepted baking conventions that we've been using all along.
Would help new bakers learn unspoken baking conventions that aren't really covered in the step by step instructions such as handoffs, dough tagging, ghosting, two-baker breads, advice for working with note-takers, etc.*
A byproduct would be to identify issues that come up in unusual situations.
Examples: shill bakes, really bad bread lag, board freezing at end of bread, and conventions about which bakers may disagree.
Important to include: the fact that the vast majority of baking mistakes are mistakes not fuckery.
''Very hard to newish anons to realize just how rare a perfect bake is. Bakers often take bakes under less-than-great circumstances. They may be sick, tired, injured or caring for children. To be slammed by shills for mistakes on top of that is unacceptable. While we can't keep shills from shilling, we can remind anons of what baking really requires and why
*Example: ghosting is by custom done almost every night on gy. But during daytime, it's a different story bc Q is more likely to post. So if a ghost must be done, baker should say so ASAP using red text or bold, keep asking for a replacement, and clearly announce when it's gonna be a "hard stop." If a baker does all that and still can't get a replacement, he should be able to sign out w/a clear conscience. And if shill later tries to give him shit, to tell em to GTFO.
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645556 No.13518
>>13503
I understand the concept of ghosting but……
some bakers use it as a tap and others just to see if a lotsa will show up, baker come forth, I ghost when I have a notetaker during the day but I call it a break, ghost implies no baker watching, confusion ensues, easy grab?
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8f19b6 No.13546
>>13518
>>13518
RE daytime ghost baking :
No baker wants to ghost during non-gy shifts.
>[ghosting] just to see if a 'lotsa' will show up
Well, why does baker want to see if another baker will show up? Usually bc he has baked a lot and is tired/needs a break. Whole lotsa joke comes from shills implying there are lotsa bakers when they aren't. Sometimes bakers just need to stop playing 'parent' role and let anons figure things out on their own.
When i ghost during the day, it is always due to physical limitations, espec recently. If set up properly, can competently bake about one and a half breads when there are no specific problems like eyestrain, so i usually take a bake by announcing I can bake one - and asking for handoff halfway thru each time i post notes. A lot of other bakers know i'm a 'one bred' spot baker for dayshift and will spell me nb if they can. Otherwise, will be forced to ghost @100 or @200 nb. (A baker who's an md reminded me not to mess around with eyestrain especially. None of us should do that.)
Right now, I only take day bakes as an e-baker or when it's a ghosted Q bake. Last one was nerve-wracking coz my baking speed was down, hadn't planned to bake, and wasn't set up. Did it anyway, coz i was the only baker there.
>ghost implies no baker watching
Right now, i often watch over ghost bakes when i can't bake properly. Will give support (fetch sauce, answer newfag q's, or help with dough repairs). Also watch out for shills or other trouble. In a pinch, may e-bake. Both bakers and oldfags try to watch out for the bred if a baker isn't signed in.
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5e52d6 No.13558
>>13546
>No baker wants to ghost during non-gy shifts.
No joke there.
Early in the board's history, there simply weren't many bakers to work with on day shift.
From experience, regular baking hours during earlier volunteer tenure were done while at work (employer didn't give a flying fuck as long as I got my regular assignments done).
Handoffs usually occurred when I had to leave for home. Impossible to bake behind the wheel.
Ideally, the handoff was a good one, when it happened, but after several calls for a handoff over multiple breads and a need to get home with no backup from Anons, ghosting became imminent; more frequent occurrence back then.
>>13503
Big red text and a clear conscience - pretty much. "Did what I could, have to go home. Let the Anons sort it out."
…
Amazing more shills didn't completely fuck things back then.
Thankfully, with increased eyes on the board, more Anons stepped up as bakers during day shift (God bless RGB) and non-gy ghosting became less frequent.
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645556 No.13562
>>13558
Thanks for sharing DB, history is always guud
I remember when the breads were slow, like maybe 1-2 a day, then poof, things took off, there was a momanon who baked but she got run off for TGFO or whatever, I was on the board but I was not paying full attention to bakers, I remember late night ghosting, spent more time there back then, I don't remember any of the issues till I started baking, last June, lots of board issues when I started but gyb was always there late night to pick up, then he wasn't and I had to learn to "Casper", which meant I was gone, had tapped, this daytime ghost thing is very diff
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5e52d6 No.13564
>>13562
With late night baking, it makes more sense - more Ameribros asleep and American bakers crashing as well. Advocated strongly (still do!) for other bakers around the world to bake fresh during "late" American hours.
Was around February-March 2019 when the international threads really kicked off, largely owing to Q posting in them and the fact that the effort had indeed gone worldwide; mission sort-of accomplished on that front.
Regardless, was not uncommon to get into work early and pick up a super-slow ghost kitchen, sometimes right at the heel of a bread. Scrambling and succeeding on a last-minute bake is one hell of a way to start the day.
>daytime ghost thing is very diff
Different, but not without precedent.
The more Anons realize and act upon the fact that, yes, any Anon can bake, the less likely daytime ghosting will occur in the event no regular volunteers are present.
Suspect bystander effect plays a large role.
>last June, lots of board issues when I started
Any standout issues?
Was not present April 2019 - April 2020.
Been doing research/due diligence in reading up, but I would like to know more from your perspective.
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116b58 No.13565
>>13235
Hey anon. Apologies to be late for you questions. See the first has been answered. Thanks anon. Great info.
For the images, generally the archives don’t keep full sized images and some don’t keep the thumbnails due to the server space (costs) that would require.
qresear.ch and qanon.news Archives section seems to be the most probable place you could find an image (at the moment).
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116b58 No.13566
>>13141
>teach do you have a 'control F' button for phonefagging, tanks.
Yes it’s possible to ctrl+f in Android and IOS. Here goes -
How To Ctrl+F on Android Devices
In the stock browser:
Menu > More > Find on Page
In Chrome:
Tap on the menu button, go to "find in page" and type your search string.
You can also do it via Chrome's omnibox as shown below. Take a look at the first option with the magnifying glass inside the box.
<pic related
If you are on a pdf reader app -
In the reading app you have to check if the app provides any search functionality. It might be an icon on the toolbar or an item in the menu.
https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-do-control-+-f-in-Android-devices
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116b58 No.13567
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13141
>>13566
How To Ctrl+F on IOS Devices
In Safari on your iPhone or iPad.
Open a web page in Safari.
Tap the Search bar.
Type the word or phrase that you want to find on the page.
At the very foot of the search results you’ll see search ‘On this Page’.
Tap it and you’ve got Ctrl+F on OIS.
<Video related
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116b58 No.13568
>>13499
Hey baker. You’ve been busy as usual in here. Thanks for holding the fort.
> and number them (#1, #2, etc.), so it's uniform?
Sure, great idea, makes sense.
> Am now in early stages of FAQ page drawing from pages 2 and 3 in dough
FAQ - excellent! Suggest with any materials that we put them out to anons and bakers and ask for feedback over a couple of weeks, posting them as ‘require feedback’ in global before we use.
I’ve always done that with the baking materials created and had great feedback, then edited until everyone’s happy. That way everyone feels they’ve had a say and part in creating them and all agree to the contents.
You could always post them at the start of class as well requesting feedback, and when finished we could use them in Module 2. Possibly consider making them as concise as poss, maybe using bullet points, as people skim. Possibly you know of the skim effect’?
https://www.mediaupdate.co.za/media/147425/get-your-content-read-seven-ways-to-beat-the-skim-effect
> Also attempting to compile some stuff for bakers to look at which would gives rules of thumb for baking
Nice. I would just say as above. All for as little rules as possible here, to not put bakers off, on the other hand shills take advantage of any holes in the system, so maybe a framework will be helpful. Godspeed baker!
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116b58 No.13569
>>13503
Agree.
>>13518
Agree there’s a difference between giving plenty of notice before ghosting and simply tapping w/o warning.
>>13546
> Sometimes bakers just need to stop playing 'parent' role and let anons figure things out on their own.
Agree, it lets anons see that we still need help in the kitchen as well. When there are no gaps in coverage no one sees that. In a push someone will always bake.
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116b58 No.13571
>>13499
Just want to let you know that I’m over committed at the moment and can manage the class and baking but any more means something is neglected. Don’t want that to be my family and rl. Hence me not being in here much between classes, but when possible I catch up.
Explaining so you know it’s a time thing.
o7 friend
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ceb160 No.13577
>>13564
It was a rough time for bakers, there was resistance to fastjack taking over the board, 8bit supported, then didn't, the resistance led to a split with many bakers leaving and going to another board, FJ stopped notables, honestly, I never read the notables till I started baking, I capped what I needed, it was rough because there were even less bakers at that time, that is when the whole bakers union thing really took hold, bout the time you left, when I started baking they complained about my being a union baker, I was just barely a baker, kek The fight was to get anons to participate rather than bakers taking care of it all,
when the board came back up in Nov bakers showed up but had problems baking because the board was very unstable, I seemed not to have that problem, baked through lots of "turbulence", still can, easier with Tor at times, I'm not as fast as i was then, IRL is more serious than before, but I hold the "anons need to nom" thing from last summer
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98a32a No.13578
>>13577
the tired old trope "bakers union" goes back much farther than that anon
it's been used many times in coordinated waves
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ceb160 No.13579
>>13578
I'm sure it's not new though I was blissfully unaware of the pols of the board, got enough of that at work, what made this diff was the split over notables/not notables, QRB is real and the notables bakers went there, they gave it credence, it's a shame they did, really, no balance
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fc95dd No.13583
>>13558
>>13579
After FJ takeover, remained on /qr/ for three days along with rgb, we were both trying to maintain the 'real' dough. Left due to no sleep, was impossible to continue at that point. Soon after, no traditional /qr/ baker could bake on /qr/ anyway, FJ threw everyone out except his muh joos crew, as you know doc. Until Q said 'revert.'
Continued to bake on /qrb/, we had an int'l baking crew, so there were no coverage gaps despite small crew. Lots of autists there coz comfy board supported deep diggs. I'm still one of two remaining /qrb/ bakers although it is now very slow. I miss what it used to be - an extremely vibrant digging board with very few shills, they just couldn't get a foothold.
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2f6ff9 No.13588
>>13568
Good evening, Teach
Internet up and down tonite, better post while i can. baking class thread also, if possible.
>>13566, >>13567 How to Control-F on androids & IOS devices
added to baker dough, thx friend.
>>13568 (and everyone else)
>FAQs & baking traditions/rules of thumb
Definitely playing with both, espec the latter, but it's slow bc organic, not formulated top-down but emerging out of discussions here and in baker's meta.
Also dislike rules unless needed for scrapers, etc. Big dif between "rules" and "rules of thumb," bc the latter are designed to describe generally agreed upon conventions that have stood the test of time. That's what makes them organic.
>shills take advantage of any holes in the system
precisely. the aim is both to give new bakers guidelines and to support bakers who find themselves in novel situations where unusual baker decisions would otherwise give shills a leg up.
>Skim effect
Yes online environments require short, pithy info "blurbs." The challenge is that these can easily turn into oversimplifications. But we'll get 'er down, just takes time, thought and feedback. Will take longer than two weeks, tho. I'm fast but not that fast.
Attached is the FAQs and Baking traditions for new page 2. Stuff on current page 2 and 3 will go into an index, if i can manage it, otherwise will become a link (more later).
Baking traditions section is an experiment, good if it works but only if bakers like it and think it's an asset, otherwise we can just go with FAQs
see attached
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2f6ff9 No.13589
>>13588
FAQs = short blurbs that give basic links, facts, info.
'Baking Traditions = the art of baking, a little history, more detailed info on handoff protocols, different kinds of bakes, handling notables, dealing with shills, effective comms, dough checking, etc.
Baking FAQs
Four parts of baking (setup, dough post, collecting notables, baking)
Notables basics: quick tips, when to post, final list
Do I need to use a text editor?
What to do when Q posts
How to ghost a bread
Ways to order notables (up vs down)
Handoffs & notifications
How to pick up a ghost bake
"Body too long": what is it and how to handle?
Taking on a late bake (@600 plus)
Baking anonymous or with an ID
What to do if a shill is baking
What equipment is needed to bake?
Making room for new notables & Q drops
How to bake in TOR
Notables vs global notables
What is pastebin and how to use it
Timing the bake
Dealing with shills
How to report bad bread numbers, etc.
How to report CP
Handling end of bread questions
Formatting notable buns
What to check before & after the bake
Slow vs fast breads
Overcoming baking terrors: laggy breds, Ddos, etc.
Baking Traditions
What bakers do
A short history of baking
Firm vs flexible rules
Firm rules & when they're needed [scraper reqt's]
Handoffs in detail
Notables: the movie [more advanced stuff]
Comms with anons
Dealing with shills & shill bakers
Breads with more than one baker
Checking the dough & making repairs
Dealing with the unexpected
10 most common baking mistakes
Index of Q & As and baking tips
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5e52d6 No.13603
>>13578
"Baker's Union" stems from late 2017, if memory serves.
Same shit, different year.
Arguments re: accountability, exclusivity, curation - the usual.
Assuming you and >>13583 referring to the Notables Creek incident re: FJ takeover.
Kind of astonishing that he - his BV crew, really, though that doesn't make him less complicit - waited so long to implement that attack after browbeating the keys away.
FJ either atoning or in zugzwang.
The bitter irony of them complaining about a "union", having become one themselves months prior…
…
Props to all fighting that fight.
Doc, gyb, were you aware of board leadership changes (8bit withdrawal; FJ/BV inserts) prior to baking?
How much did Anons really know about who was on staff?
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5e52d6 No.13604
>>13603
More context re: earliest emergence of "Baker's Union":
Around 2017, the term was used as a means of rallying anyone who regularly baked to a point of community. There was a connotation of positivity, intended as a means of support.
Owing to the near-constant state of paranoia and high-and-mighty "y u no bake this right, baker is a shill, look at me for calling him out, gimme dem feelz" mentality, this positivity was short-lived.
Combination of board culture and shill influence.
Since, any sign of coordination between volunteers is immediately met with "muh Baker's Union".
The cogent, non-vainglorious arguments against a "union" are that, yes, any Anon can and should be able to bake, without a need to sign up for anything or give up anything more than the time required to bake; and, yes, shills have attempted to fuck with the kitchen in the past - giving them an avenue to insinuate themselves in a pseudo-"official" way could spell disaster (plot twist - a few did that anyway!).
Those who believe every spelling error or missed call is immediate grounds for a hijack attempt do not make these arguments; insert anecdote about monkeys being sprayed with water here.
…
Too much opinion in the above few sentences.
Happy to discuss later (off to workfag).
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a529db No.13605
>>13583
it was a tough time for sure, if you member I had just started baking, maybe a couple of weeks when all that SHTF, I had no opinion either way, just wanted the board to keep going, the split wasn't good for the board, that is still my only opinion, I don't point fingers because I wasn't involved enough then to have an opinion
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a529db No.13606
>>13603
totally unaware, really, I was just to learn to bake, in my profession there is the "discipline" with protocols and procedures, practice, then there is individual license, meaning I am "it", I was trying to learn the "discipline" while learning to be "it" as well, so no backroom knowledge whatsoever, I know FJ was attacked, I didn't care why, he was the BO so he made the rules, that was all I knew
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098f1d No.13607
>>13606
Whoa.
Getting into the kitchen in… the middle of that kind of volatility, let's say… could not have been easy.
Respect. No joke.
Mad respect to RGB as well for sticking through.
Difficult to fully asses the total damage resulting from FJ/BV faggotry.
>>13605
"The split" was in progress long prior (before 8bit BO withdrawal); Notables Creek was a propagating crack.
Given the nature of what happened after (August), and the resultant shitcanning of the BV's pre-8kun (downtime), I'm almost certain that 8ch's shutdown was precipitated by the failure of the 5th column to gain control of the board during the Notables Creek power grab.
…As far as archival history can tell me, anyway.
Re: the older boards (early 4ch, cbts, thestorm):
What's your assessment of Anon's general knowledge of /qr/'s history, or does it seem like anyone cares about the topic?
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a529db No.13608
>>13607
I'm not sure how anons feel about it, really, they do think bakers should be mind readers, collectors of all things posted and many have said that bakers should know what to collect, and if I don't I shouldn't be baking, there weren't any other bakers for a long time, it's a luxury to have this time now to ruminate and post, I understand some of what's going on, have a feel for what is good to note but they want pages of notables, for which they don't read or keep up with, surely they don't have an understanding as you do, G was kind to work with me through those times, I've not forgotten that, I let him know I remembered, not many old fags out there, a few for sure, we joke about it when something comes up, so my question is, then, as I am sure the board is "handled", the column was outed, left for another so qr could regroup, I was welcomed back to bake after the shut down
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b5c652 No.13614
>>13608
Re: Anons on Bakers:
Some things never change.
The mind-reading aspect is the fun part.
That said, Anons have significantly improved on the academic side of research (read: cite and highlight relevant info, link it back to previous work/studies, etc.).
"What to collect" has also evolved, but that can also vary from Anon to Anon re: relevance, importance, interest, save for those that demonstrate relevance/importance (e.g., AB-style delta figures, planefagging).
The lack of reading/keeping up seems to have diminished, or at least fewer Anons are griping about their own lack of diligence. Still happens, but used to be much worse.
<heyheyheyheyhey baker y u no notable
>Please see Bread #XXXX…
At least the Anon gets what they want in the end, just not the way they wanted it.
If memory serves, Notables themselves first started Bread #760, though that may be incorrect, will have to look back later.
Orders of magnitude later… good times.
Re: during the shutdown:
Don't know. That's all FJ. And the BV's/5th column that he shitcanned.
After though, was pissed that I couldn't jump on to volunteer when 8kun fired off - impossible to bake geographically speaking.
Other life objectives to manage as well.
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2f6ff9 No.13615
Re: FJ takeover bid
>>13605
yes you were very new. And working closely with mv, who thought he could outsmart FJ; he said as much to 8bit. But FJ was and is BO, so he held all the cards - and played them on July 11. CAP 1.
Once he thought he'd won, he posted this gem. CAP 2.
The bakers who went to QRB, either right away or later, were the ones who outright refused to bake with FJ's new dough. We stayed and sniped instead, trying to get in a bake with the traditional dough. And posted the dough information that FJ had deleted from the dough, espec. notables. Along with messages objecting to the new fake dough and FJ's crappy notables thread. But he either had 24-hr watchers or some automated script that immediately locked our new breads. The sniping was still useful in that those breads couldn't be immediately removed so anyone logging on to the catalog would see how mgmt was deleting the legit breads for at least a few hours.
CAP 3.
Even after Q said 'revert', FJ remained uncooperative, tried to cause trouble for bakers like me when they tried to help during the often chaotic night shifts. In this example, his shill baker ignored notables from note-taker and did an extra early e-bake to screw things up.
CAP 4.
>>13603
Included this short acct showing just a few of the events leading up to the FJ takeover, the ones that involved me directly but which are emblematic of how he operated. Notice what name he uses to insult me? Thought you would find that of interest.
CAP 5.
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2f6ff9 No.13617
>>13615
A coupla things to add:
1. the edit made was to get rid of an unfortunate typo in the title (takeover 'big' > takeover bid) bc this stuff may get referenced at some point to provide some board history.
2. Purpose is to set the record straight about July 2019 takeover from one anon's pov. It's not to stir up bad feelz about board mgmt at the present time. Not necessary or desirable, we got other fish to fry.
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a529db No.13618
>>13614
thank you for the hindsight, always helps, there were many things at play with board moves, keeping up with the info, Q, and I was woefully unprepared for board politics when I started, really just jumped in to keep the board going, I enjoyed it that much, learned to navigate tech issues with ease, never got my speed up and back, tech issues bogged down for so long not sure I can even do it now, willing to step back, good times, the best but there is change again, I'm OK with that, home life is stepping up for me now as well, do appreciate your time to inform, chroniclers are always good, tyvm
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2f6ff9 No.13619
>>13607
>I'm almost certain that 8ch's shutdown was precipitated by the failure of the 5th column to gain control of the board during the Notables Creek power grab.
Interdasting, would love to know.
>Difficult to fully asses the total damage resulting from FJ/BV faggotry.
CAPP.
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a529db No.13621
>>13615
you get to pick your frens but not your fam, veli and I started at the same time, many times there was no one else but he and I and we managed pretty well, the fact that we worked well together is a testament to his patience, nothing more, my opinions of bakers is purely from my interactions with them but you have to admit splitting the board caused a deep schism, one anons didn't and don't need, that was my only gripe with that, as for notables, there are those who want to turn the board into MSM, those who want fame for getting one and then there is stuff that is q related and they seem to be fairly mutually exclusive, that is my gripe with notables, anything that educates is good, the more notables there are the less likely anons are going to read and absorb, my 2 cents
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2f6ff9 No.13622
>>13621
Schism was caused by FJ, not anons or bakers. Once he dictated the composition of the new dough, bakers were faced with a tough choice: accept it and continue to bake or reject it and protest (by trying to seize back the dough or adding notables back to FJ dough). So yes, there were hard feelings from some anons around that choice for a while. Just so you know, although I was in the "rejector" group, neither was I against the bakers who stayed. Never. When Slighty Stupid stove baker got blasted for "staying", we talked as friends about tough choices. To me, any baker still on the board on July 10 has my lasting respect and admiration.
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a24a48 No.13623
>>13615
…
Never lived in somebody's head rent-free before.
Not a lot of square footage there, though. Good thing it wasn't just his head - more room to move between bad consciences.
Cannot answer his question, though the top of my chain is the best. Nobody kicks more ass than he does, believe me, not even close.
Nevertheless, FJ not surprising given circumstances.
>>13618
Glad to hear irl is good on your end.
Cherish it, man.
Best way to MAGA in the long run.
>>13619
Will discuss more once home.
No definite time on that owing to irl obligations, though. Apologies in advance if delayed.
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2f6ff9 No.13626
>>13623
There is always time. I gotta get off the screen for a while, too, before class today. Glad to talk later.
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5e52d6 No.13628
Firstly, apologies for all the IP hopping.
Weird mechanics today owing to phonefagging.
>>13626
Back.
Re: >>13615, CAP 5:
The idea of "new names" springs from extended time spent in the kitchen between October 2018 - March 2019.
Plenty of rallies. Good times.
Not the healthiest thing in the world, though, putting in those kinds of hours.
Not 18-20 hours - impossible. Double digits most days though.
Again, not healthy.
…
Paranoia is an infectious disease.
Easily mistaken for diligence.
Disastrous when mistaken for righteous action.
Fatal to any kind of team effort.
Pinnacle of vanity, truth be told - what is paranoia but absolute certainty that the world, indeed, revolves around you?
Again, not healthy.
…
In all honesty, FJ is not the primary driver of the faggotry shown after taking up the mantle of BO.
Don't misunderstand - he is demonstrably guilty as fuck for being a tyrannical psychopath that nearly demolished this effort to fight the very same kind of corruption he knowingly implemented and enacted.
That said, he is not the only party involved.
The other BV, Pen, who had been part of /qr/ since its inception, had been begging 8bit for the keys well before 8bit ever withdrew and conferred responsibility to FJ. Prime driver of paranoia that convinced FJ to swing a proxy iron fist.
May not surprise you that two other BV's, instated just prior to 8bit's withdrawal, had joined in on the browbeating and powergrabbing behind the scenes as well. One of them was a "regular" baker beforehand, who it seems has not reappeared since 8kun fired up.
…
Q's intervention stopped the crack from propagating further.
Canary in the coal mine, and the ultimate check against FJ craving penis power again.
Did FJ act out any time after Q called him out, or did he go full laissez-faire prior to 8ch shattering?
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2f6ff9 No.13629
>>13628
good to know some of the behind-the-scenes intrigue. I know there was at least one BV who was pretty malicious because he was very aggressive when i was baking, threw them outta the kitchen at tail end of bread. The BV who used to 'vet' late night bakers seemed quite civil prior to 8bit's leaving.
>Did FJ act out any time after Q called him out
yes - look at the date on >>13615, CAP 4 -
3 days prior to deplatforming.
There's more but that will serve. I don't hate the guy but he does not exactly inspire confidence.
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2f6ff9 No.13630
>>13629
(((them))) meaning him and FJ, when they were baiting me after 650.
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5e52d6 No.13682
>>13629
>one BV who was pretty malicious
Can only speculate…
>3 days prior to deplatforming.
…Christ.
Don't hate him either, truth be told.
Based on the caps, they (FJ/BV's) made a monster for themselves to pretend to fight against.
It appears they made me out to be some kind of villain post-April (for leaving myself, suspected. Not my fault - can't say no to the COC, and not about to fuck that up any time soon). Owing to similarities in times/consistency, they assumed you (and others, apparently) and I were the same, gyb.
Literally tilting at windmills… while I was far away/incapable of hitting the boards, let alone baking.
…How pathetic is that…
…
For what it's worth, Pen did hate Bakers - believed they had too much control over the breads, particularly with respect to Notables.
Of course, the bitter irony of him begging for control, on top of bringing on a "regular" baker as co-BV, cannot be overlooked as mere vainglory or cognitive dissonance.
Not to the extent his/others' actions affected the board, anyway.
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5e52d6 No.13903
>>13614
Ever have that trivia moment where you're sure you know, but you have to check to be sure?
Went and looked on history of Notables implementation.
Started Bread #755 with collections of #754, #753, and #751.
(Was really close with #760!)
"Rudimentary" is a polite description; Notables have come a long way.
Orders of magnitude, indeed.
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a7fc6f No.13904
>>13903
I have those moments often
yes, I don't remember notables in the beginning and I don't remember when or why they started, interesting concept, it's become a mess really, now it's used for "news"
we have become MSM, with a twist
kek
I was happy with a repository of research
collections started in 751
and people think this board isn't handled
ty for the history lesson
beginning to need to read again, larger than bytes info
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