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Excelsior!

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 No.15366 [Open thread]

Haven't read a book in years, friend gave me this one. Read it and really enjoyed it. Wouldn't have picked it up if it wasn't a gift. How do I find similar books that I would like to believe build wisdom?

Bought a kindle just now and want to read more.

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 No.15367

>>15366

Book title: The Alchemist Paulo Coelho

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File: a0a03b8e9a37d3d⋯.jpg (72.6 KB,449x599,449:599,Allen_Ginsberg_1979_-_crop….jpg)

 No.12684 [Open thread]

>Part of the reason Ginsberg was suspended in his sophomore year from Columbia University was because he wrote obscenities in his dirty dorm window. He suspected the cleaning woman of being an anti-Semite because she never cleaned his window, and he expressed this feeling in explicit terms on his window, by writing "Fuck the Jews", and drawing a swastika.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howl#Biographical_references_and_allusions

How does that make any sense? If you're feeling persecuted for being Jewish, why would you write "Fuck the Jews" on your window? Wouldn't you write "Fuck the Goys" or something like that?

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 No.13629

>>13628

Most Jews barely practice Judaism as a religion. It's much more of an ethnic identity (no matter how little Israelite blood they have). Hence the term secular Jew.

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 No.13630

File: 15eba3bfb093a98⋯.jpeg (169.66 KB,597x630,199:210,schopy stairs.jpeg)

>Schopenhauer, who hated noise (and wrote an amusing essay [1851; translated, 1890] on the topic), had been enraged by her loud chattering on the landing outside his room; in the ensuing altercation he pushed her, and she fell down a flight of stairs. He lost the case and was obliged to pay her a monthly allowance until her death. (When she finally died, twenty years later, he commented, "Obit anus, abit onus" [The old woman dies, the burden is lifted]).

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 No.13673

>>12684

I do similar things when I'm angry at someone or something and I think I understand him. Let me try to explain why. You know we all act differently when we're angry, right? We try to find ways to cope with the anger. Well, for some people, the coping mechanism is to demonstrate to the world and all its people just how ridiculously annoying the person you're angry at is. And that can be done by impersonating what that person stands for in an exaggerating way. It's like mocking, but the difference is you normally mock people because they are inferior, laughable, pitiful, and you do that in a humorous way, while, in these cases, you mock people because you're furiously angry at them. It's not the kind of mocking you and your friends laugh at, it's the kind of mocking that makes everyone in the room go silent and look at you with slightly scared eyes and feelings of regret behind them.

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 No.15348

>>13630

Lmao, what a bitter incel.

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 No.15360

>>13673

are you jewish?

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File: 1471369760615.png (2.71 KB,800x533,800:533,Russian Flag.png)

 No.10861 [Open thread]

What are some essential works of Russian literature. I'm already familiar with Dostoevsky and Tolstoy.

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 No.13563

>>11568

thanks for the recs comrade

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 No.13849

Pre-derp? What was mentioned, plus

all the Silver Age folk, including Gumilev and Averchenko.

Post-derp?

Lukin (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?178368) sadly few translations, and mostly German

Frei (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?237554) - at least some books are translated.

less "loud" tier, but good:

Gevorkyan (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?181477) - alas, the best isn't on the list.

Mikhailov (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?92761) - ditto

>>11546

And yes, Pelevin. Oh, here's a freebie on English:

http://pelevin.nov.ru/rass/en-zigm/1.html

His "must read" book is Generation P / Babylon.

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 No.15333

>>12644

It's unlearnable. If you are an adult, It's too late.

Don't try.

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 No.15335

>>15333

Ignore this retard.

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 No.15341

>>12644

Reading and speaking a language are two very different animals, but one day you will want to speak, so it is very important to start now. Apps like HelloTalk allow you to do a language exchange. You teach your native language to someone who wishes to learn and they teach you Russian. If you really connect with someone, it's a great motivator, so don't give up if the first few conversations go nowhere. A paid Russian teacher is better but not always possible.

I like Benny the Irish Polyglot's blog for tips on learning languages. The most important thing by far is a little every day. 1% better each day makes you *3700%* better at the end of the year.

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File: e11968491f0b773⋯.jpg (25.12 KB,300x300,1:1,5968872.jpg)

 No.15316 [Open thread]

How's the writing career coming, /lit/?

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 No.15318

Just getting back into writing for the first time since I dropped everything for my chosen career, and really enjoying it now I'm at home preparing to squeeze out a baby.

Actually was wondering if this is a place to bring up an idea for a YA novel and see what people think; I like the idea of releasing for free the first installment of a would-be drama series that'd gently introduce teens to an increasingly dissident worldview as the main character grows up. Plot based around a high school girl who gets a development deal with a record company (Lorde-style), exploring her premature entry into an adult world, and slowly introducing (among other things) shit like predatory male feminists, professional victims in entertainment criticism/journalism, the anti-intellectual nonsense in modern humanities departments, etc. etc.

Besides that, I've got a lot of my own coming-of-age experiences to draw on now I'm old enough to reflect, and I like the idea of writing the kind of stuff I wish I'd come across as a lost teenager.

Wonder if it'd get any traction in online circles, as the kind of thing that wouldn't see the light of day in mainstream publishing?

Tend to think the problem with growing dissident political movements is that we have so little cultural output in spite of a growing audience for it and an urgent need for it.

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 No.15319

>>15318

You should have her enter the glittery world of music production, but slowly realize there is an underworld of sex trafficking that leads her on a wild chase of pizza parlors in the flight for her life as she ends up bringing down an old order alien species that has evolved to look human, but secretly controls the world with big noses.

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 No.15320

>>15316

there's literally a writefag thread three threads over, why make this?

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 No.15326

>>15319

Interested to hear your definition of 'should'.

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 No.15334

File: cc6bc44d9e0ff98⋯.png (642.36 KB,658x1307,658:1307,the gospel-1.png)

Finishing up edits on my next soft erotica book and will be publishing it on Amazon soon, where I will probably make enough money over the course of the next year to buy one tank of gas, unless I do something differently. Considering buying some ad space on Goodreads.

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File: 2a53f78f0f11975⋯.jpg (20.23 KB,316x467,316:467,on_moral_fiction.jpg)

 No.15324 [Open thread]

This crystallised for me everything that is right and wrong about fiction, and convinced me to fix what'd become my exclusively nonfic diet.

Sincerely recommend. Anyone else? Also, any similar books with similar/different takes you'd suggest?

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 No.15327

What exactly did you like about it?

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 No.15328

>>15327

He explains what it means for literature to genuinely explore themes by testing moral/ethical hypotheses, so that a book can have real moral meaning without the author sperging out on a blatant rant. Frustrating that people see the title and assume he’s advocating for Goofus-and-Gallant preaching; I think he’d agree that that’s the problem with morally childish/incoherent award-bait lhat’s now called ‘socially important’ (The Handmaid’s Tale etc.), when compared to texts that are complexly constructed to explore truth rather than present a predetermined morality play. I'd never heard this fully articulated before, although I felt the same intuitively.

He argues that an author must have the moral/intellectual humility to embrace being proven wrong, and commit to ruthlessly honesty, rather than merely seeking to prove himself right. This is a larger point about what it means to be intellectual/scientific/philosophical that applies to so much in life.

Gardner repeats his core thesis a bit and I would suggest skimming towards the end if it feels like you’ve heard everything he has to say. Still, there are also excellent use of examples of what he’s talking about, especially when discussing thematically vacuous but popular/critically acclaimed trash, and comparing it to the best of literature.

What’s most inspiring to me as someone who wants to write, and not just read, is he shows it’s remarkably simple to uncover real human truth if your sincere goal is to be true-to-life (rather than true-to-preexisting-belief-system) even and especially when following contrived scenarios to their (socially) logical conclusions. And yet it’s clear how this is increasingly rare thanks to pretty blatant conceptual regimentation by our self-appointed cultural gatekeepers (plus readers/writers have less and less literary appreciation/ambition, likely as a result).

It’s a welcome antidote to the morally relativistic and nihilistic streaks in modern culture, especially that most obnoxious strain which preaches intractable relativism while simultaneously declarinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.15330

You are a redditor.

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 No.15598

File: 80c55611fb846e0⋯.png (58.28 KB,645x729,215:243,brainlet3.png)

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 No.15323 [Open thread]

This crystallised for me everything that is right and wrong about fiction, and convinced me to fix what'd become my exclusively nonfic diet.

Sincerely recommend. Anyone else?

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 No.15342

>>15323

You forgot your image file, fren.

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File: 27e0be3c7d3dfd1⋯.gif (94.2 KB,547x433,547:433,shrek snap.gif)

 No.15310 [Open thread]

I want to write stuff, like poetry or nonfiction or journalism, except I dont like poetry more than 4 lines of it in an entire book, let alone an entire book or page of poetry, and I think the standards of it, like rhyme schemes and couplets and sonnets are retarded and antiquated, and that all the good poetry is already written or will be written by better men than me anyways. As for nonfiction, I have no technical expertise, so there goes that idea. As for journalism, I know nobody interesting, and likely never will, and most journalism is, nevermind, 100% of journalism is written by cuckolds or moral relatavists. It seems like the ONLY worthwhile writing is HIT PIECES but I have little clue how to distribute them seeing as it isn't 1917 anymore and I'm not friends with Josef Stalin and the Pravda editorial board. Seriously, the ONLY fun thing to do with writing is trashing other peoples' reputation (rightfully so, since most people are scum), but even if we trash them, other people will trash them for shittier reasons, and it's important that people hate others for MY reasons. Advice?

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 No.15313

>>15310

>I think the standards of it, like rhyme schemes and couplets and sonnets are retarded and antiquated

Well, congratulations for being an untermensch. I suggest listening to some of Elizabethan writers' and Shakespeare's works, particularly his poems to get a grasp at the power of antiquated poetry.

>that all the good poetry is already written or will be written by better men than me anyways.

Don't let your memes be dreams. See if you believe that, then you'll never write anything worthwhile. Be like Kierkegaard, or Hitler; the former believed that he was going to do great shit and passed out on a girl whom he loved. Hitler was a impractical dreamer in his youth, as Kubizek attests.

> As for journalism, I know nobody interesting, and likely never will, and most journalism is, nevermind, 100% of journalism is written by cuckolds or moral relatavists. It seems like the ONLY worthwhile writing is HIT PIECES

Then go with satirical works; read some satires to get a feel of how to do it; hell, read some of Wyndham Lewis as he took other people's works and melted it down and reworked it to his tastes.

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 No.15314

Is it really writers block if you haven't actually started?

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File: 7a5a94633681738⋯.png (1.33 MB,759x748,69:68,hdd.png)

 No.15168 [Open thread]

Do you use goodreads? I tried using it but although supposedly its users are incentivized to read more since its gameified I stopped using it since I didnt want to keep track of all the shorter shit I had read, and it wouldnt let me just add books without reviewing them. Its also none of amazons business what I read, and a lot of shit on their database did not include translations or the correct information such as page count or author. Many times somebody else was credited as author just for writing a forward even if the author would not have wanted a cocredited author. For instance Mein Kampf could be credited to Elie Wiesel or something (not actually but basically). Fuck goodreads.

I was going to keep track of stuff on a word doc but I figured maybe I will just read the damn books and not keep track at all.

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 No.15235

I use goodreads so I can showoff my high iq books that I read to my peers.

I do use but really it provides no real value to me other than my ingrained engineering behavior to spreadsheet/catalog everything I can. I like the ability for a starred rating system. I do this to music/albums I listen to and it is nice to shuffle music based on five stars, obviously doesn't apply here..

Maybe I need to stop using goodreads.

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 No.15238

who?

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 No.15261

>>15168

Tried building some personas on there but I don't care what people think and venting my opinion on things is boring. #SEO bullshit

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 No.15297

I stopped using it when some insane harpies started stalking me because they thought I was the author of Behead all satans.

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 No.15308

>>15168

>and it wouldnt let me just add books without reviewing them

You know you can just not fill the review section out, right?

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File: dd0f5279ee5e311⋯.png (79.01 KB,2489x605,2489:605,1540785050472.png)

 No.15196 [Open thread]

How do these posts make you feel, /lit/?

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 No.15202

>>15200

/thread

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 No.15219

>>15202

You could print out pages.

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 No.15241

>>15219

or you can buy a book

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 No.15291

>>15196

This is very concerning. I'm not even a heavy bookfag, and I can tell you that both posters have no comprehension of higher concepts in total. A book can contain a large picture of information that extends a deep understanding of the writer's mind. This cannot happen with snippets of facts. They look at knowledge as a bunch of puzzle pieces. Ignoring the large painting as the author's whole concept. Sometimes it's not the pieces, it's the totality.

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 No.15296

I assume they are talking about non-fiction school-related textbooks? Because what they're saying is true. There is no reason to own a book these days. I coasted through college by using the internet. I only bought a book in the first year because I was nescient and thought I needed it.

HOWEVER

I initially thought they were talking about fiction, which is why I cooked up a rant about how retarded they are, (especially the "ten pages, books are fluff" guys). If someone can confirm they're talking shit about fiction too I'll post it.

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File: ccc298a1b287a1f⋯.png (77.57 KB,416x435,416:435,npc.png)

 No.15188 [Open thread]

where can i pirate books in mobi format? i would like to download some lightnovels and such

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 No.15189

gen.lib.rus.ec has some mobi books.

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 No.15193

>>15188

booksee.org has some stuff also, worth a search if you can't find shit elsewhere. Oftentimes the download speed is shit, though, and additionally the selection isn't huge.

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 No.15194

I always use the IRC method for downloading books, you can usually get a book in every format.

>Download IRC client (I use Hexchat) and make sure its set up for receiving files

>Connect to IRCHighway for the server, the channel is 'ebooks'

>use the @search function to find your book. also works searching for an author. Search results will come in a .txt with full format etc information

>copy the entire entry for the download you want in the search results and paste it into the channel

>????

>Profit

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 No.15245

You could always use Calibre to convert stuff like epubs into mobi. That's what I've been doing.

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 No.15279

>>15194

Are such queries visible to everybody when you post them in the channel? I haven't used IRC for like 20 years for file-sharing so I forgot how it works.

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File: 5655ed4b0404e24⋯.jpg (90.97 KB,650x422,325:211,1819bdaf399f1f889a3888ab53….jpg)

 No.15269 [Open thread]

I'm interesting in reading texts like The Republic, Meditations, etc. But I'm aware all translations are not created equal, are there any recommended translations of the two mentioned (and any other notable works you might suggest). Or is worrying about translations pedantry?

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File: 44f68a1fc4cdfe3⋯.jpg (10.95 KB,197x256,197:256,download (21).jpg)

 No.15097 [Open thread]

Was Karl Marx an asshole?

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 No.15215

>>15097

Given his lifestyle? Yes.

Didn't he constantly ask friends from money?

Didn't he go to a the funeral for his best friends father to ask for more money?

Didn't both his daughters commit suicide?

Wasn't he a terrible father, husband and friend by any metric?

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 No.15224

Is there anything good he brought to the table that wasn't just ripped off of Hegel?

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 No.15247

>>15097

Yes. There are plenty of anecdotes about Marx being an asshole in an entertaining book about him by Francis Wheen, which was well-received (I mean the general public, not Marxists).

>>15102

>He was radicalized after his foray into Hegelian dialectic

No. Hegel wasn't specifically left-wing per se, that's why the term Linkshegelianer exists (links=left), denoting a faction of Hegelians, not Hegel thought as a whole. And those guys were not the most radical thing either, just atheists writing stuff. Marx started out as a journalist in Prussia, writing from a rather reformist perspective. The government crackdown on the newspaper and other reformists lead to his radicalizing. It was the slaughter of the Paris Commune and his direct experience of having the state on his ass that made him cynical and extremist, not Hegel.

>>15190

>bad mathematical skills and lack of logical thinking

I don't think Marx getting gud at math would have changed anything about his world view and polemics.

>>15224

The stuff he ripped from Ricardo and gave a polemical spin to.

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 No.15248

>>15247

You overused "Polemics" too much even though it was the correct term. C-, see me after class.

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 No.15249

>>15248

Would underusing it too much be better?

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File: 914d23b102acf2a⋯.jpg (26.64 KB,278x474,139:237,51vCkfAmYuL._SX276_BO1,204….jpg)

 No.15231 [Open thread]

Has anyone read? My favorite genre is still coming of age. No spoilers but just looking for opinions on this book.

unrelated does anyone read on LSD?

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 No.15232

>unrelated does anyone read on LSD?

I ask because although I have not and I am an.. experienced/frequent tripper for lack of a better term, I recently picked up and looked at a few pages during the tail end of a trip and I was frankly mesmerized by the crisp letters against the faded pages. It made a simple fantasy book seem like some sort of tome of ancient truths. Didn't get to reading however as I was quite tired.

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 No.15239

All degenerates must die

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File: 6e46fc5f51777ee⋯.png (268.04 KB,1280x720,16:9,popuko at the beach.png)

 No.15205 [Open thread]

http://archive.is/yzbyy

Reminder caring about spoilers is only for autistic Redditors.

Pic related for Being Reddit the show, I had nothing else to post.

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 No.15206

Depends entirely on the book. Generalizing everything is reddit.

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 No.15207

>>15206

Nice in joke. Unfortunately for you clever in jokes are now Reddit.

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 No.15208

>>15207

There is no in joke. Thinking there are in jokes is reddit.

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File: 0f039cf22f7bfbe⋯.png (197.72 KB,757x632,757:632,0f039cf22f7bfbe25da0fcf311….png)

 No.14665 [Open thread]

>want to read an old classic

>first editions are incredibly expensive so the only option is to buy a newer edition published by someone like Penguin or Oxford

>the first 70-80 pages are a long winded introduction written by a "literary scholar" telling the reader how to interpret every part of the story, often spoiling it in the process

>he/she repeatedly, unconvincingly, asserts that his/her interpretation, that just so happens to conform 100% to modern sensibilities, is the correct one

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 No.15195

>>14665

why do people whine about this so much? Like, is it that hard to just skip the intro and just read the story?

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 No.15203

>>14981

>Unless you're reading something from BCE

Those can be shit too. I remember reading an intro to one of Aristotle's work, where the editor wrote at length at how enlightened we now are that we know there are no superior or inferior caste or races of men, and that women are equal to men, and that we've always been the one human race.

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>>15197

He's still got a point. you don't have to read an introduction if you're not interested in it.

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