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Excelsior!

Sister site: [Fan-fiction]

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 No.12076 [Open thread]

Is there a torrent or a online repository that has all of lit's recommended books? I found their Japanese download but that's about it. Been posting this around the chans for awhile and haven't gotten a response.

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 No.12141

>>12139

Yes, but there more preserved* in reality than in data.

*Besides fires, of course

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 No.12142

>>12141

*they are

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 No.12144

>>12141

Yes, that, only the precise opposite, for obvious reasons regarding what information is (noting "reality" and "data" as being false distinctions) and in how it may most simply be distributed.

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 No.12145

>>12141

>>12144

Alternatively: I can assure you that M-Discs are cheaper per megabyte than ink on parchment.

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 No.15995

++

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 No.12747 [Open thread]

The Captain underpants movie coming out lately has got me thinking.

If someone like say, Netflix, ever did another adaptation of the classic Wayside School books, one where Louis Sachar actually had input(like he did with Holes), which art style would be most aesthetically pleasing to use?

http://www.strawpoll.me/13003227

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 No.12761

>>12747

this is the first time i hear about this, sorry.

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 No.12764

I never really read those books as a kid, even though I had 3 different ones. I don't know if I still have them or if I donated them to the library.

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 No.12766

>>12747

i'd prefer the 1978 version, just cause its the version i read, not because it's more visually appealing or whatever

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 No.15994

+

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File: ee6bfe4325c8c00⋯.jpg (55.53 KB,364x330,182:165,dice.jpg)

 No.13225 [Open thread]

I just got an idea to overcome writing block, especially for the times when you got a vision or a detailed plan but don't know how to put it to paper because you just cannot find a good start. I've never heard this idea before but I cannot imagine I'm the first one to come up with something like that, but anyway, here I go:

>Write down scenes in your head in a somewhat chronological order

>Number them

>Throw a dice or use a random number generator to determine what scene to write

>Repeat until a good part of the novel is standing, then fill in the blanks

It's simple, it might turn out to be a shitty idea, but I'll give it a try. I'll let you know how it goes.

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 No.13238

Why not forgo the numbering and just write the scenes you feel like writing? Eventually you'll have enough material to make it easy to write the scenes you don't really feel like writing. You might even find that many scenes weren't really that important at all for the overall story.

And if you don't feel like writing at all, why bother?

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 No.15993

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 No.15950 [Open thread]

What are some books that you were assigned to read that you actually enjoyed? What are your "classics"?

I want to read more books that are more generally well known. Some of the titles I was assigned have been:

Romeo and Juliet, Macbeth, Frankenstein, The Great Gatsby, Lord of the Flies, The House on Mango Street

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 No.15972

I liked lord of the flies to the point where i pretty much memorized it in high school while writing the essay we had to do.

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 No.15973

>>15950

I hated House on Mango Street when I read it in high school. I never gave a fuck about spics. The fact that it was about some minority living in modern US whining turned me off to it immediately because it had nothing to do with things I cared for at that time: heroism and glory although I still care about those things, I have found others. Great Gatsby was nicely written but wasted on mundane, trivial things in my opinion.

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 No.15985

DR SEUSS IS GODLY LITERATURE

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 No.15986

Timm Thaler, or the Traded Laughter

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 No.15987

>12950

You know, I really enjoyed the Martian Chronicles. We had the choice between Slaughterhouse 5, Martian Chronicles and one other book I can't remember. I decided on the scifi one, and honestly while I don't remember any of the specifics, I do remember it being an enjoyable read.

Also have to agree with >12972 that Lord of the Flies was amazing, hands down.

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 No.13871 [Open thread]

All women I've talked to in my life have mentioned this book. Is it worth reading?

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 No.14844

>>13987

This. Saint Elliot proved in his Manifesto that this book is clear gibberish bullshit.

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 No.14848

>taking reading recommendations from women

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 No.14849

>>13948

>If you want something enough and if you actually work towards getting it enough and keep a position expectation that you will receive it, then yes you'll get it. That's what happens.

That's complete and utter horseshit.

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 No.15979

The fact women are recommending it is testament enough that it should be avoided. Do you not have a fucking brain?

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 No.16068

>>13871

>All women I've talked to.

Shit, my deepest commiseration and sorrow man.

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 No.15177 [Open thread]

What's a good entry point if I want to start reading some Lovecraft?

Should I just grab the Necronomicon and/or Eldritch Tales, read some random short stories and skip to the next if they don't catch my interest?

I'd rather read something lengthier like a novel but from what I understand even they are at most ~150 pages. Which is fine I guess, but I still don't know where to start.

I'm only vaguely familiar with his work but I think I'd prefer to read the ones in a more overt 'mystical' setting

I was talking with a guy that gave me a bunch of suggestions but he also said that it wouldn't hurt if I'd ask for some other people opinions as well (and here I am) since he had read far from all of it.

>Some random suggestions that I wrote down

Dagon

The Horror at red dread hook

The Dunwich Horror

The doom that came to saranoth

The case of charles dexter ward

At the mountains of madness

The shadow out of time

The haunter of the dark

The thing at the doorstep

The shadow over innsmoth

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 No.15768

>if you're not my brand of retard you must be this other brand of retard

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 No.15928

Go read the Alchemist.

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 No.15943

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 No.15944

>>15746

fuck off, medcuck

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 No.15976

I started with 'A Reminiscence of Dr. Samuel Johnson' and did not continue.

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 No.15955 [Open thread]

I'm talking all kinds of tools - from just writing to proofreading and organization.

I hear good things about grammary but haven't tried it yet.

Also, a program called Campfire that helps with writing books/novels, since it has maps, timelines, characters, encyclopedia, character arc and such to help keep things neat, organized and visualized. The installer is 200MB, kinda big for a program that just organizes text and images.

So yes, I'm writing a novel and am looking for anything that can help improve the process.

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 No.15957

>>15956

That's not a helpful answer.

You'd think /lit/ would be filled with classy, well-read and helpful people.

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 No.15961

>>15957

Laconic though it be, it ain't wrong.

>>15955

Depends on the kind of writer you are. Outliner writers may consider all those tools a godsend. Discovery writers find it constraining. I favor Michael Crichton's take on computer aided whatever software. At best it may aid you, but it may not do even that. What software cannot do is to do the writing for you.

"Books aren't written - they're rewritten. Including your own. It is one of the hardest things to accept, especially after the seventh rewrite hasn't quite done it." –Michael Crichton

From an organizational standpoint, one of my favorite writing anecdotes was from Gore Vidal on his last successful attempt to write a murder mystery. "Halfway through the last one I forgot who the murderer was and had to find a substitute." It worked for him. So much for organization.

I would suggest you learn a bit about typesetting or, in today's world, web page design. The point is not to become a typesetter. The point is to learn what you should not be spending time on. Writing is not typesetting.

Grammar checkers won't teach you grammar. The traditional fuckup detector is to pay someone else to look at your writing, or being blessed with a professional editor. Leaving your work sit for a month and coming back to give it a read can do wonders in a pinch.

I use Emacs. As an all encompassing monster of feature bloat on par with Microsoft Office it will try very hard to get in your way of writing. A blank page, cut, paste, spellcheck, and file save. That's the whole of the feature set I use from Emacs. To be fair, one may successfully use this method with any word processor. I like having a Mediawiki installation available as well. What organization I may apply (character notes, plot outline, reference artwork, etc) fits the wiki model. I also use an online grammar checker as a finished productPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.15962

>>15955

Zettelkasten. It's an idea incubation chamber.

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 No.15963

>>15957

You don’t come here often, do you?

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 No.15965

>>15961

I am quite aware, I often end up re-writing a single chapter or part several times and still think is sucks.

But rather than have all these thing in a hunderd documents over a dozen windows, it would be more efficient to use a tool that helps with that.

As you say your time should be spent WISELY, and wasting time because I have to shuffle trough a dozen documents to a find a name of a character is quite simply bad.

This is partially why I was asking. Campfire looks OK, but I don't want to shell out 50$ if there are better tools out there.

Basically this:

https://www.campfiretechnology.com/features.html

(no, I'm not a shill, just want to ask if there is something similar you guys are aware of)

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 No.15964 [Open thread]

Post about stuff that pisses you off

I can't stop my autist rage. Whenever I mention reading books to people they inevitably start talking about how they used to read a lot but don't read a lot nowadays. I don't fucking care, pick up some Chekhov. Or don't, just leave me alone and stop trying to #relate to everything I do.

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 No.15966

>>15964

This isn't /b/.

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 No.16001

>People try to make conversation and are interested enough in you to try and relate to one of your

>"wtf poser fags fuck off"

Imagine being this autistic

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 No.16002

>>16001

Interests*

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 No.15952 [Open thread]

Hi Anons. Is there some website / dark hole that contains 8chan (/lit/ in particular) archives? Not the integrated beta feature. Too incomplete.

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 No.15954

Regarding 8chan, I've heard rumors of various people running archives at various times and places. I say rumor as I've not had any interest in them.

Regarding 8chan /lit/ specifically, the board staff/BO were not aware of any.

There are a handful of threads manually saved that were of interest to the current BO. That is hardly an archive though.

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 No.15890 [Open thread]

I want to read more than I currently do but it get so boring so quickly.

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 No.15891

You are reading shit books, you have a shit taste and your attention span is comparable to that of a toddler's from overexposure to electronic entertainment.

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 No.15892

>>15890

My problem is that I conditioned myself to read before going to bed, so I get tired every time I open a book.

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 No.15932

File: 39a345b82ae9513⋯.jpg (26.95 KB,333x499,333:499,shallows.jpg)

>>15890

>>15891

Pic related argues that computers train us to multitask at the expense of our ability to concentrate deeply. It might interest you.

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 No.15933

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>>15932

Concentration is dead and introspection is on life-support.

Dont try to be serious, factual or relevant, and of course do not read the ancients or try to be a better man, if you do you are worst than hitler.

t. modern era and beyond

I

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File: 14d0c2359fabe26⋯.png (193.59 KB,300x338,150:169,bestgirl.png)

 No.15343 [Open thread]

OFFICIAL BARSOOM WAIFU RANKINGS

1. Tavia

2. Phaidor, Daughter of Matai Shang, Holy Hekkador of the Holy Therns

3. Thuvia of Ptarth

4. Tara of Helium

5. Zanda

6. Valla Dia

7. Sola the Thark

8. Janai

POWER GAP

9. Sanoma Tora

10. Issus

11. Xaxa

POWER GAP

12. Dejah Thoris

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 No.15346

Serious question: did the guys use some sort of straps to keep their dicks from comically flopping around in the low gravity?

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 No.15349

>>15346

All that's really specified about clothing is that everyone wore skimpy metal harnesses. I always imagined that the harness at least covered up the genitalia.

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 No.15889

Why the FUCK does worst girl always win bros?

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 No.15931

The mars series is for preteen boys.

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 No.15038 [Open thread]

WHERE MY TRADITIONALIST NIGGAS AT?

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 No.15922

>>15920

yea just take a step back into this oven

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 No.15923

>>15920

Sorry dude but since you're a gay jewish pedophile no matter what the picture will still have that addition, it's best to kill yourself now and save the picture's integrity.

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 No.16882

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>>15038

Ready.

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 No.16968

Heydar Jemal

Read this

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 No.17005

>>15038

>WHERE MY TRADITIONALIST NIGGAS AT?

WITNESSIN THERES NO GOD WORTHY OF WORSHIP BUT ALLAH, AND MUHAMMED IS HIS MESSENGER

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 No.15870 [Open thread]

My dog died. I'm spiraling in existential crisis that our mind is tied to our brain's death. I need texts for a confirmation bias of continuing on conciousness to help me cope. Something that will confirm there is more to existence after death. I'm looking for babby tier books to understand dualism, or anything transcendental. Something with intelligence. No 'The 'Alchemist' bullshit. Is dualism philosophy? Many of the terms, I dont understand. Any other analytical subjects that will help my heart ache is welcome as well. Thanks /lit/.

I loved that dog more than anything. She was 2 years old.

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 No.15871

>>15870

>I need texts for a confirmation bias of continuing on conciousness to help me cope

There is none. What you need are stuff pulled out of the asses of drugged up hippies from thousand of years ago.

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 No.15873

>>15871

How is that any different from being interested in and reading anything else?

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 No.15913

>>15871

So the conclusion is physicalism?

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 No.15959

>>15870

I feel for you. My own dog died (brain cancer, had him put to sleep. Needed two injections becasue he was an DAMN tough poodle that survived a rotweiler biting off half it's back like it was nothing. The vet was astounded).

Looks like a nice pupper too.

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File: 87d730426d67fb5⋯.jpg (125.67 KB,710x473,710:473,wojak brain sex.jpg)

 No.15717 [Open thread]

Redpill me on the Kama Sutra by Vatsyayana.

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 No.15882

Unironically useful

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 No.15902

>>15717

I own this one and it's really not that useful. Most of it is about Indian culture and mating rituals of the time; There is even a long segment on puppet theater and how to play with puppets in it and stuff like (women from this city love to be scratched, women from here don't, etc.) The sex part is okay but you need to wade through a ton of useless shit to get to it.

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File: 9a3f123ece6c8ce⋯.jpg (23.46 KB,318x424,3:4,29150910.jpg)

 No.15654 [Open thread]

what are some books that you REALLY want to read but can't find anywhere due to any reason whatsoever?

For me it's Milkbottle H by Gil Orlovitz

>American publishers weren’t interested in Orlovitz’s work, as either poet or novelist. Despite decades of productivity as a poet no major U.S. house had published any of his work. It’s no surprise that Milkbottle H was rejected wholesale in the U.S. after years of circulating among publishers

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 No.15656

It's literally on Amazon dude.

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 No.15886

>>15654

Blood Passover by Ariel Toaff, 100 Years Together by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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 No.15887

>>15654

Sun and Steel by Yukio Mishima, there are copies available but they're expensive af, don't seem to be too many reprints either, the book must have ceased publication after, uhhh, the incident.

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