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File: 1454176353419.jpg (55.3 KB,460x276,5:3,George-RR-Martin-011.jpg)

 No.8458 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/17911/20160128/the-winds-of-winter-release-date-update-george-rr-martin-book-nowhere-near-finished.htm

Hello everyone, I am a lazy fatass fuck. It takes me 7 fucking years to write a penny-dreadful, film-script based "novel". And it doesn't matter that it's my full time fucking job, literally the only thing I'm required to do, or that I jack off at 67 years of age by taking bum fuck vacations all over the world to live off the prestige of my now stagnate series that I can't fucking finish, that I'm constantly giving interviews and bullshit for the industry, and that I'm writing OTHER books that literally no one gives a fuck about. That's right, I'm not writing for the series that is the sole reason for all my fame and which everyone wants, no, I write other books that are truly shit and no one gives a fuck about. And when those that gave me all this money call me out on this shit, the best I can do is twiddle my fat fingers, flip them off and then whine on my blog about how ashamed I am of being a lazy fatass fuck. Oh, did I mention that I waste time playing videogames? I have all this responsibility, I'm 67 fucking years old and I waste time playing videogames, because that's really going to get the job done and get all these people off my back. Did I mention I'm a lazy fatass fuck?

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 No.16136

>>15929

Pretty much every character in ASOIAF is fucking low quality, anon. If it wasn't for all the sex tacked on, nobody would've even cared about the books, let alone the show - it's for people who think they're too mature for orcs and elves all the while it's got the substance of an emo tween's diary entry hating his parents for telling him to mow the lawn. GOT is literally the most overrated show ever made, and any other writer would've used said overratedness to their advantage unlike GRRM, who's too busy whining about an irrelevant franchise like the NY Jets than actually, y'know, writing.

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 No.16248

it's all up to the fatman now.

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 No.16251

>>16248

It is going to be shit anyway, it will end in the same way as the show ended.

I hope people use this chance to create high quality fun fiction.

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 No.16262

>>16248

He all but confirmed that the book will be finished for the Hugo Awards in New Zealand next year, but yeah, it is too little too late. Especially after GoT's last few seasons.

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 No.16296

Why is Gregory R.R. Muffin so fat? How do people get this fat? Does he stuff his face with food to research medieval royalty?

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File: e5a5d572c032ae6⋯.png (8.05 KB,261x359,261:359,yOrHKKS.png)

 No.16284 [Open thread]

Is it fruitful to look for a father figure in literature? May be a fictional character or even the author himself? Recently i feel like i've lost the sense of purpose and i can't turn to my dad because he's just like the father from 'Rebel without a cause' - he lost his job, stays at home and slaves (not helps) for my mother. I grew up while he worked across the state, hence i never had the slightest of paternal care or guidance.

Where do i look to for some kind of a direction? Help me out brothers.

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 No.16285

Try not being schizo phrenic

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 No.16290

If you are already an adult, you probably wouldn't benefit that much from having a "father figure" in your life. I imagine that a paternal influence is much more subconscious than anything alse, and, being already past your development age you won't absorve anything from just reading books about manly men and trying to conciously emulate their behavior.

Instead, perhaps you should turn on to philosophy and self-development. I know it may sound cringy, but I guess Jordan Peterson stuff is just what you are looking for.

You should probably start lifting too.

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 No.16292

>>16290

Thanks. Stoicism hits me home quite a bit so i've been reading up on it lately. And yes, im starting a lean-bulk routine complete with bulking diet and intensive workouts. Hopefully, i won't feel as helpless as i do now.

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File: 438a825d1c3b73c⋯.jpg (32.1 KB,220x312,55:78,220px-Overlord_novel.jpg)

 No.16264 [Open thread]

anyone know any good books/novels about world domination or something of the like. Something that wouldn't be afraid to be at least slightly bombastic/sexualized or have other slightly childish qualities?

to be honest, any books or novels which have the mc or mc's go for world domination as a goal without much regard for good or bad morals and wouldn't be complete pain to read. i suppose something like GoT, better or worse, just want something with a similar topic.

thanks in advance /lit

pic probably related

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 No.16267

>>16264

check out Dune if you like si-fi , i haven't read it but i heard about it and it had some themes of world domination and politics

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 No.16291

>>16264

You might enjoy Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard. Movie was shit, but the book was good. I second Dune if you like mc plots.

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File: b016b0aaca60c90⋯.jpg (65.82 KB,353x534,353:534,the-bhagavad-gita-40.jpg)

 No.16277 [Open thread]

post any book related to religion or spirituality , if you read it tell us what the effect and if not just post the book any way will help

also any one know any good books about middle eastern paganism ? like sumeria or babel

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 No.16278

>>16277

oh shit i double posted it my bad

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 No.16286

> middle eastern paganism

Shiism

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File: 7a163b63e84c7fe⋯.jpg (29.3 KB,300x474,50:79,The Fairie Queene.jpg)

 No.16024 [Open thread]

What's your favorite book that was written in your native language?

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 No.16151

File: f1f07367ad71079⋯.jpg (38.59 KB,458x558,229:279,Идиот.jpg)

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 No.16205

File: 7566d20db5df834⋯.png (643.81 KB,1200x630,40:21,ClipboardImage.png)

Arabs: An Aural Phenomenon by Abdullah al-Qasemi. considered to be one of the most controversial books in the Arab world, this book just BTFOs arabs in every way. no, i'm not talking about salman rushdi's Satanic Verses, that was written for pure trolling. al-Qasemi was driven by pure spite

while studying in Al-Azhar university, he wrote a book critiquing an article by Al-Azhar scholar Yusuf al-Degwy. al-Degwy wrote a book about the ignorance of wahhabist thought, which in turn lead al-Qasemi to write more books attacking him and al-azhar thought.

this incident led him to think more and more about what he was doing. eventually, he decided to give the middle finger to the big man and went on a literary massacre of arabs.

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 No.16275

File: 7baa8810ca07b5d⋯.jpg (487.08 KB,2468x2106,1234:1053,Peake liturature.jpg)

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 No.16276

>>16032

It's more or less the same thing as modern English, just with the u's and v's swapped and some e's added to the ends of certain words.

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 No.16279

File: 29f48d554b3012a⋯.png (3.47 MB,1296x2104,162:263,ClipboardImage.png)

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File: 70f789e9b5aa79b⋯.jpg (96.31 KB,1280x720,16:9,pig.jpg)

 No.16038 [Open thread]

In what books may I learn more about post-modernism?

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 No.16067

>>16038

A good intro book is

Stanley Grenz, 'A Primer on Postmodernism'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/204010.A_Primer_on_Postmodernism

I hate postmodernism, but it was extremely useful to read this book

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 No.16072

>>16038

nicholas shackel wrote a good paper on postmodernist rhetorical strategies titled "The Vacuity of Postmodern Methodology"

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 No.16232

>>16038

Don't read anything because post-modernist do not believe anything can be objective, so even if you're wrong you're still right.

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 No.16242

>>16232

Are you implying the sole purpose of reading is objective truth?

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 No.16272

Post-modernist theory is not what one might think it is.

>RationalWiki

reddit.

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 No.16257 [Open thread]

What is some real good smutty stuff that I can read? Or does everyone just go to their local library to watch porn on the internet

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 No.16266

Check out literotica

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File: c3af859a7f64769⋯.jpg (230.77 KB,1104x1475,1104:1475,71Vmj-9DZYL.jpg)

 No.14371 [Open thread]

House of Leaves was a book i remembered hearing about a lot from Silent Hill fans back in the early 2000's. They described it as the ultimate note taking mystery. A puzzle you needed to deep dive into and spend years unravelling. I always meant to get around to it but only recently did and boy was this an oversold product.

The 'puzzle' is that its a book about a guy finding a dead mans unpublished novel about a movie that doesnt exist and the junkie burnouts notes as he tries to put it together. Somehow this drives him insane though i think the point was meant to be that like his mother he was suffering an illness already.

The big let down however wasnt the story which was a fine enough piece of meta fiction but the sheer childish nature of the 'hardest book you will ever read' i was sold on. Sometimes you have to read a page in a mirror. Or turn it upside down. Sometimes the amount of text on a page gets smaller and smaller as the formatting squeezes it into a smaller box of broken words to convey the feeling of the characters in a shrinking hallway. Yeah i get the symbolism here. That doesnt make it a puzzle though.

I finished it in about 4 days of casual reading and left it with a resounding 'okay, that was it' but i see hipsters gushing about it on youtube who seem like they desperately want to be 'part of the smart kids club' about this and i feel like its a case of it since many say they took over 8 years to read it.

I feel like it was probably a lot more amazing at the time it came out with all the experiments in media at the time but compared to a game like Silent Hill 2 or a multimedia project like This House has People in it the whole thing came off as outdated and bland.

Am i crazy or is this just some hipster badge of honour shit at this point?

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 No.15233

>>15228

Totally agree. I have been working my way through classics this past year and was fairly interested.. was pretty let down. I didn't really learn anything I didn't already know either. Overall a lot of it seemed to apply only to his time period as well.

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 No.15234

File: 7fdc1ce4f4e61cd⋯.jpg (80.41 KB,353x541,353:541,the-idiot-the-unabridged-e….jpg)

Reading Crime and Punishment ignited a deep love for classic novels, and easily is one of my favorite three books now.

Decided to take a spin with pic related for my second journey into a Dostoevsky full length (read the double, winter nights, and a few others I cannot name by memory) and a few months later I am still currently slogging through it. Part I was decent, but now starting Part IV it is like the story resets itself every time and characters seem to be brought into the story mindlessly and just give you more to keep track of. Perhaps I am feeble-minded but I created an entire character map to identify and follow along with the characters two to four names they are called by… I never have before but I also find myself looking up chapter summaries to recap before I start reading again just to know where the plot has been going as it seems like the entire value of the book could be obtained from reading the seemingly randomly brought up rants (although they are usually fairly profound/decent rants) that Dosteovsky will get into every few chapters. The plot should be shortened to 100 or less pages, and he should have taken these rants and made short stories out of them instead of a work with seemingly no real direction.

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 No.16247

>>14467

its memed as the most patrician book you can read, so people read it and think its complete shit. its pretty god, but no masterpiece so people feel betrayed and post endlessly about what a bad time they had.

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 No.16253

File: 88b287bf667e239⋯.jpg (25.64 KB,318x471,106:157,25492903.jpg)

>>14371

READ NIGGA READ!

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 No.16263

>>15234

The Idiot was great. Don't bother trying to keep track of all the characters; most of them are unimportant. You may as well be laser focusing on every redshirt character in Star Trek TOS; they're mostly just there to fill in the background. All you really need to keep in mind is Muishkin, Nastasia Filipovna, Rogojin, and Aglaya Ivanovna. Ippolit gives an interesting rant that provides some foreshadowing, but other than that there's really no point in the book where anyone other than the main four becomes important.

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File: b7216f2d7b2ff16⋯.png (177.79 KB,250x402,125:201,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.16238 [Open thread]

Best book where the character is a god.

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 No.16254

File: 2fc007ddf56273a⋯.jpg (29.74 KB,290x475,58:95,OaPH_PA.jpg)

>Best book where the character is a god.T

That would be the Incarnations of Immortality series by Piers Anthony.

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File: 66e7d5368754a83⋯.jpg (34.19 KB,400x300,4:3,50170747_758986774478341_1….jpg)

 No.16087 [Open thread]

Memes aside, anything in his books that make observations on the current situation applicable? Early or later works? Need something that might ease me into his writings. I think I only I have one book and an essay. So /lit/erati, point me in the correct direction…

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 No.16245

Be active in the writing field. There are many good [*Spam link. "502 Cloudflare error" as well. LoL*] groups and freelance writers associations operating in many countries. Therefore, it would be great becoming a part of it in order to get acquainted with other writers, to get practical advice and to enhance your position as a self-sufficient writer. A quick search on the Internet will help you to find a local organization operating in your area.

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File: 5ded20c43f2eb98⋯.jpg (15.52 KB,219x303,73:101,220px-Francis_Fukuyama_201….jpg)

 No.15998 [Open thread]

whats the best place to start with Francis Fukuyama?

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 No.16086

>>16069

You realize I am OP and also American. Also France tends to harbor a lot of fruitcakes, so back at cha bud

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 No.16111

File: c311630a76691e9⋯.jpg (14.04 KB,267x400,267:400,The_End_of_History_and_the….jpg)

>>15998

read this and realize that people only don't accept it because he's not white

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 No.16121

Francis Fukuyama is /r/asiandienty cringe

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 No.16225

You may find a lot of his works in the trash can.

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 No.16265

derp

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File: 45378b6d15b6908⋯.jpg (53.65 KB,640x360,16:9,Amphithéatre.jpg)

 No.16196 [Open thread]

I've been reading intensively for almost three years and during the last months I've taken advantage of being unemployed for writing some poems and short stories. In September I plan to follow literature courses at the unit next to my apartment, but I already feel tired of start off again the study routine (stressful exams, irritating classmates, boring professors) although the content of most of the courses really interesting me. The diploma itself has no significant value for me since I already have an engineer's degree, all I want is to perfect my writing in order to get published some day.

What would you do /lit?

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 No.16204

>>16196

Learning english may improve your writing

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 No.16219

File: d6d18396ff21a07⋯.jpg (31.2 KB,314x475,314:475,bloom.jpg)

I agree with reading, analyzing styles, and doing. Wasting money on literature courses is dumb to some extent.

Although reasonably well-read and wanting to write the "great novel" of our times, I was given the book The Western Canon by a friend. Yeah, I know Harold Bloom may not be particularly loved by some, but through reading the book I gained enormous respect for his views.

The chapters of this book start with Chaucer and work their way through the iconic authors of Western literature and with each Bloom discusses why the works form part of the canon of great literature. His analysis is structured around his theory of imagination: why characters live in a reader's mind, how an author's expression creates an imaginary world, the historical significance of writings (ie zeitgeist), etc.

It took me three years to read this book as I read dozens of the works he was discussing along the way, and in all it gave me in my opinion, an infinitely richer understanding and appreciation of literature beyond what I could possibly have gained from any undergrad course.

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 No.16221

>>16204

I mainly write in my mother tongue, namely French; rather learning Latin to gain a better understanding of the language

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 No.16222

>>16202

The university is almost free in my country, my personal dilemma is more about keeping learning by myself (which I actually do quite well) or comply with a certain type of education, which may improve my writing but also imply some pernicious effects, like orienting my style to a common standard

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 No.16223

>>16219

Thanks for the recommendation, I'll take a look at it after finishing Morphology of the Folktale by V. Propp, a rather difficult but rewarding reading.

https://monoskop.org/images/f/f3/Propp_Vladimir_Morphology_of_the_Folktale_2nd_ed.pdf

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File: 2be0da81c0ad6a5⋯.jpg (75.9 KB,832x690,416:345,2be0da81c0ad6a5e5238497fed….jpg)

 No.16198 [Open thread]

Should it be written or typed? My handwriting is atrocious.

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 No.16201

File: 2acc13fd7596093⋯.jpg (119.11 KB,1254x1254,1:1,2acc13fd7596093f73791fa1a7….jpg)

>>16199

blow me dbag, the frog is here to stay and he demands to know about submitting manuscripts.

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 No.16203

>>16201

Not my fault you can't use a search engine.

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 No.16206

File: 82302ddf7b4872b⋯.jpg (15.31 KB,300x250,6:5,30ca2ae443b1e89df21190a311….jpg)

>>16203

I trust infinitychan more than sponsored results on googsy

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 No.16214

>>16199

At least to lmddgtfy even though ddg sucks

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 No.16216

File: bfffd21511c4898⋯.jpg (868.15 KB,900x893,900:893,1474345093927.jpg)

are there any writers here? helloooo??

rare shroomtrip pepe

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File: 509929c2aec6c67⋯.jpg (51.73 KB,440x550,4:5,440px-Te_lawrence.jpg)

 No.16099 [Open thread]

Has anyone read him? What are his best works, and what are they like?

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 No.16153

I've read the Seven Pillars of Wisdom, and I've read his translation of the Odyssey. Seven Pillars of Wisdom is a very good book, but full of inexplicable descriptions of rocks. I guess he was really into geology or something. Every new environment he enters during his journey he regales you with descriptions of the sort of rocks and sediment in the region. Otherwise it's a great book. Lawrence has fantastic prose, which is why I also really enjoy his translation of the Odyssey.

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 No.16161

File: 560488fedd756fa⋯.jpg (79.44 KB,818x511,818:511,997440604.jpg)

ummm as I understand it, Lawrence only wrote two books of his own, Seven Pillars and The Mint. I've read both, the former three or four times over the years. It's a masterpiece of English literature and also a fascinating historical narrative. The movie, Lawrence of Arabia, based on this book is an excellent flick, too.

Oddly, I hadn't noticed the focus on the geology, but then I do have a considerable interest in this field. Seven Pillars describes a journey along the Arabian coast of the Red Sea through the Hejaz Mountains (pic related), among the grandest and rugged terrain on the planet and for an Englishman accustomed to the rolling green hills speckled with sheep, it's hardly surprising they caught his eye.

The Mint is a diary of his later years when he suffered PTS (I guess they'd call it nowadays) and enlisted in the airforce under a pseudonym to escape social pressures. It's a psychological study really of a state of mind within a regimented order. Interesting, but nothing great as is Seven Pillars.

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 No.16213

>>16099

I am interested in Seven Pillars of wisdom because im from Saudi Arabia , but the book is heavy and im not used to reading books this big but i will start it some day hopefully

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File: 2438bfd018ad995⋯.png (838.14 KB,1440x900,8:5,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.15331 [Open thread]

redpill me on kikecraft

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 No.16175

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>>16173

I believe this is the case. Weird how he's always presented as some fedorafag though.

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 No.16182

>>16173

Do you happen to have a list of the books bequeathed to him? I'm interested in what Lovecraft was reading. I know he had some knowledge of theosophy based on references to it in his fiction but I'm curious what books in particular he read.

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 No.16191

When, long ago, the gods created Earth

In Jove's fair image Man was shaped at birth.

The beasts for lesser parts were next designed;

Yet were they too remote from humankind.

To fill the gap, and join the rest to Man,

Th'Olympian host conceiv'd a clever plan.

A beast they wrought, in semi-human figure,

Filled it with vice, and called the thing a Nigger.

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 No.16195

>>16175

>Weird how he's always presented as some fedorafag though.

Probably because he himself openly denied the existence of all things spiritual and occult. He more than likely never had any experiences with any occult entities. He did, however, suffer from night terrors, and he acknowledged this as a major source of inspiration for his stories. It's pretty likely that the occult books he read had an influence on his night terrors and through them on his writings.

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 No.16208

>>16195

So he was eternally tortured? Sounds like more of an advocacy for the occult than a denial of you're autistic enough (it's also a lame 2008 /b/-tier insult)

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