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File: bbaaa4e073c8744⋯.jpg (34.35 KB,342x515,342:515,bbaaa4e073c874445a82a8fd6a….jpg)

 No.15851 [Open thread]

if people were deprived of individuality and ambition, the world could become a better place. There could be a world government that he

would provideto the world of stability. People would be happy without ever wanting something they could not get. Having a similar worldview and mentality, ride

the same cars, living in the same homes or apartments, having the same entertainment, living in a state of blissful ignorance about

passions and strong emotions could be so conditioned that they would practically be unable to act otherwise than they should.

When reading the book "Brave New World ", I always wonder: what exactly is wrong with the world described there? Wars, hunger and diseases have stopped.

Social hierarchy still exists, but those at the bottom are genetically designed so that they do not bother them, they even enjoy what they are. Blessed soma

it is enough for everyone, there is a joyful consumption and freedom of manners. Few visionaries get deported, but so what? New ideas, books or inventions

they would only destroy the previous harmony built with such difficulty. It does not sound like an dystopia, rather the opposite of dystopia.

If our goal is universal happiness and security, the individual's freedom seems to be a temporary, unsuccessful experiment that is an obstacle to his reached.

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 No.15971

Lol did you keep word wrap on

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 No.16293

File: c08caaeddb9c7dd⋯.jpg (63.38 KB,403x261,403:261,bnw.jpg)

>If our goal is universal happiness and security

The entire point of this book is that it challenges this very goal.

The utopian projects of the modernist experiment have all been criticized because 'they don't work/are impossible'.

Here Huxley shows it to you, and it's shown for what it really is.

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 No.16295

I think in BNW people are engineered to be happy with their situation, it is only the few errors in the system that rebel (the protag, who turned out ugly even if being of higher caste, the other guy, who is so perfect that got uninterested in sex and soma, thus bored with society, and the Savage, who grew up with religious shame of pleasure).

The thing is, in real life, we are all errors in the system. We all have our little particularities and neurosis, we would never become that homogenous society if a BNW-like system was imposed on us. It doesn't matter what kind of social engeneering "our chinese overlords" come up with, without pre-manufecturing peoples very core, to a biological level, their perfect society would never work. I mean, people could conform, as they do in totalitarian regimes in the real world, but only to a superficial degree. It wouldn't be the perfect society described in the book.

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 No.16350

>>15851

Mr. Huxley is right about his theories, but Jews decided to use it as a handbook.

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 No.16351

File: 1f539f7938a22f0⋯.pdf (638.6 KB,4dcca84c10c7515a25edb8cd39….pdf)

Btw read this it's just six pages. Foucauldian interpretation of Huxley's work

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File: 0fc21edf3d685e3⋯.jpg (22.64 KB,300x457,300:457,1560962219286.jpg)

 No.16341 [Open thread]

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 No.16342

Shit. Very very simple from the start. I know its only a short story, but you should take more time to describe the setting, develop stronger characters, etc.

Keep practicing though, you'll definetely imptove.

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File: fe417d939c4791b⋯.png (111.8 KB,1188x880,27:20,theycallthisareview.png)

 No.15394 [Open thread]

>uhh??? no ebik quips? no flashy capeshit battles? no regurgitated pop culture tropes from the past 20+ years? yeah, no thanks

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 No.15734

>>15731

Cuckchan.

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 No.15737

>>15734

9gag.

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 No.15742

>>15722

I've known a few nice Karens

but the rest of your assesment is correct even as an American myself. our women are absolute crap.

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 No.15765

>>15714

>because being a spy is cool

Oh o-ok. I thought it was one of the dirtiest, unrewarding, suicidal, stressfully boring jobs of all time. Where do I sign up for the James Bond masterclass, Karen? FBI guy hook me up pls.

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 No.16332

File: 79286419908a447⋯.png (1.72 MB,1080x1920,9:16,Imported 687.png)

Obsessing over people you know are inferior to you seems like a meaningless endeavor. It's also cheap. Did you actually break down his post in any meaningful way? No. Which is why his post isn't even wrong, but yours is.

His review is fine. He's literally challenging people to change his mind, which implies he knows what he's doing. What have you achieved however?

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File: 012cd0322b2273d⋯.png (566.33 KB,1913x2102,1913:2102,1527304072411.png)

 No.16299 [Open thread]

This is a dead board. Hello there!

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 No.16300

File: d11123952659ba7⋯.jpg (234.95 KB,661x716,661:716,1485284067901.jpg)

I dont think this one will work, and i dont know why but whatever. Here

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 No.16301

File: d25f3b5d8f88fa7⋯.jpg (115.76 KB,750x1024,375:512,1552367528117.jpg)

>>16300

>>16299

Jee check out of these DUBS nibba hehe

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File: 1454176353419.jpg (55.3 KB,460x276,5:3,George-RR-Martin-011.jpg)

 No.8458 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

http://www.parentherald.com/articles/17911/20160128/the-winds-of-winter-release-date-update-george-rr-martin-book-nowhere-near-finished.htm

Hello everyone, I am a lazy fatass fuck. It takes me 7 fucking years to write a penny-dreadful, film-script based "novel". And it doesn't matter that it's my full time fucking job, literally the only thing I'm required to do, or that I jack off at 67 years of age by taking bum fuck vacations all over the world to live off the prestige of my now stagnate series that I can't fucking finish, that I'm constantly giving interviews and bullshit for the industry, and that I'm writing OTHER books that literally no one gives a fuck about. That's right, I'm not writing for the series that is the sole reason for all my fame and which everyone wants, no, I write other books that are truly shit and no one gives a fuck about. And when those that gave me all this money call me out on this shit, the best I can do is twiddle my fat fingers, flip them off and then whine on my blog about how ashamed I am of being a lazy fatass fuck. Oh, did I mention that I waste time playing videogames? I have all this responsibility, I'm 67 fucking years old and I waste time playing videogames, because that's really going to get the job done and get all these people off my back. Did I mention I'm a lazy fatass fuck?

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 No.16136

>>15929

Pretty much every character in ASOIAF is fucking low quality, anon. If it wasn't for all the sex tacked on, nobody would've even cared about the books, let alone the show - it's for people who think they're too mature for orcs and elves all the while it's got the substance of an emo tween's diary entry hating his parents for telling him to mow the lawn. GOT is literally the most overrated show ever made, and any other writer would've used said overratedness to their advantage unlike GRRM, who's too busy whining about an irrelevant franchise like the NY Jets than actually, y'know, writing.

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 No.16248

it's all up to the fatman now.

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 No.16251

>>16248

It is going to be shit anyway, it will end in the same way as the show ended.

I hope people use this chance to create high quality fun fiction.

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 No.16262

>>16248

He all but confirmed that the book will be finished for the Hugo Awards in New Zealand next year, but yeah, it is too little too late. Especially after GoT's last few seasons.

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 No.16296

Why is Gregory R.R. Muffin so fat? How do people get this fat? Does he stuff his face with food to research medieval royalty?

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File: e5a5d572c032ae6⋯.png (8.05 KB,261x359,261:359,yOrHKKS.png)

 No.16284 [Open thread]

Is it fruitful to look for a father figure in literature? May be a fictional character or even the author himself? Recently i feel like i've lost the sense of purpose and i can't turn to my dad because he's just like the father from 'Rebel without a cause' - he lost his job, stays at home and slaves (not helps) for my mother. I grew up while he worked across the state, hence i never had the slightest of paternal care or guidance.

Where do i look to for some kind of a direction? Help me out brothers.

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 No.16285

Try not being schizo phrenic

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 No.16290

If you are already an adult, you probably wouldn't benefit that much from having a "father figure" in your life. I imagine that a paternal influence is much more subconscious than anything alse, and, being already past your development age you won't absorve anything from just reading books about manly men and trying to conciously emulate their behavior.

Instead, perhaps you should turn on to philosophy and self-development. I know it may sound cringy, but I guess Jordan Peterson stuff is just what you are looking for.

You should probably start lifting too.

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 No.16292

>>16290

Thanks. Stoicism hits me home quite a bit so i've been reading up on it lately. And yes, im starting a lean-bulk routine complete with bulking diet and intensive workouts. Hopefully, i won't feel as helpless as i do now.

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File: 438a825d1c3b73c⋯.jpg (32.1 KB,220x312,55:78,220px-Overlord_novel.jpg)

 No.16264 [Open thread]

anyone know any good books/novels about world domination or something of the like. Something that wouldn't be afraid to be at least slightly bombastic/sexualized or have other slightly childish qualities?

to be honest, any books or novels which have the mc or mc's go for world domination as a goal without much regard for good or bad morals and wouldn't be complete pain to read. i suppose something like GoT, better or worse, just want something with a similar topic.

thanks in advance /lit

pic probably related

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 No.16267

>>16264

check out Dune if you like si-fi , i haven't read it but i heard about it and it had some themes of world domination and politics

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 No.16291

>>16264

You might enjoy Battlefield Earth by L. Ron Hubbard. Movie was shit, but the book was good. I second Dune if you like mc plots.

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File: b016b0aaca60c90⋯.jpg (65.82 KB,353x534,353:534,the-bhagavad-gita-40.jpg)

 No.16277 [Open thread]

post any book related to religion or spirituality , if you read it tell us what the effect and if not just post the book any way will help

also any one know any good books about middle eastern paganism ? like sumeria or babel

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 No.16278

>>16277

oh shit i double posted it my bad

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 No.16286

> middle eastern paganism

Shiism

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File: 7a163b63e84c7fe⋯.jpg (29.3 KB,300x474,50:79,The Fairie Queene.jpg)

 No.16024 [Open thread]

What's your favorite book that was written in your native language?

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 No.16151

File: f1f07367ad71079⋯.jpg (38.59 KB,458x558,229:279,Идиот.jpg)

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 No.16205

File: 7566d20db5df834⋯.png (643.81 KB,1200x630,40:21,ClipboardImage.png)

Arabs: An Aural Phenomenon by Abdullah al-Qasemi. considered to be one of the most controversial books in the Arab world, this book just BTFOs arabs in every way. no, i'm not talking about salman rushdi's Satanic Verses, that was written for pure trolling. al-Qasemi was driven by pure spite

while studying in Al-Azhar university, he wrote a book critiquing an article by Al-Azhar scholar Yusuf al-Degwy. al-Degwy wrote a book about the ignorance of wahhabist thought, which in turn lead al-Qasemi to write more books attacking him and al-azhar thought.

this incident led him to think more and more about what he was doing. eventually, he decided to give the middle finger to the big man and went on a literary massacre of arabs.

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 No.16275

File: 7baa8810ca07b5d⋯.jpg (487.08 KB,2468x2106,1234:1053,Peake liturature.jpg)

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 No.16276

>>16032

It's more or less the same thing as modern English, just with the u's and v's swapped and some e's added to the ends of certain words.

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 No.16279

File: 29f48d554b3012a⋯.png (3.47 MB,1296x2104,162:263,ClipboardImage.png)

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File: 70f789e9b5aa79b⋯.jpg (96.31 KB,1280x720,16:9,pig.jpg)

 No.16038 [Open thread]

In what books may I learn more about post-modernism?

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 No.16067

>>16038

A good intro book is

Stanley Grenz, 'A Primer on Postmodernism'

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/204010.A_Primer_on_Postmodernism

I hate postmodernism, but it was extremely useful to read this book

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 No.16072

>>16038

nicholas shackel wrote a good paper on postmodernist rhetorical strategies titled "The Vacuity of Postmodern Methodology"

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 No.16232

>>16038

Don't read anything because post-modernist do not believe anything can be objective, so even if you're wrong you're still right.

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 No.16242

>>16232

Are you implying the sole purpose of reading is objective truth?

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 No.16272

Post-modernist theory is not what one might think it is.

>RationalWiki

reddit.

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 No.16257 [Open thread]

What is some real good smutty stuff that I can read? Or does everyone just go to their local library to watch porn on the internet

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 No.16266

Check out literotica

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File: c3af859a7f64769⋯.jpg (230.77 KB,1104x1475,1104:1475,71Vmj-9DZYL.jpg)

 No.14371 [Open thread]

House of Leaves was a book i remembered hearing about a lot from Silent Hill fans back in the early 2000's. They described it as the ultimate note taking mystery. A puzzle you needed to deep dive into and spend years unravelling. I always meant to get around to it but only recently did and boy was this an oversold product.

The 'puzzle' is that its a book about a guy finding a dead mans unpublished novel about a movie that doesnt exist and the junkie burnouts notes as he tries to put it together. Somehow this drives him insane though i think the point was meant to be that like his mother he was suffering an illness already.

The big let down however wasnt the story which was a fine enough piece of meta fiction but the sheer childish nature of the 'hardest book you will ever read' i was sold on. Sometimes you have to read a page in a mirror. Or turn it upside down. Sometimes the amount of text on a page gets smaller and smaller as the formatting squeezes it into a smaller box of broken words to convey the feeling of the characters in a shrinking hallway. Yeah i get the symbolism here. That doesnt make it a puzzle though.

I finished it in about 4 days of casual reading and left it with a resounding 'okay, that was it' but i see hipsters gushing about it on youtube who seem like they desperately want to be 'part of the smart kids club' about this and i feel like its a case of it since many say they took over 8 years to read it.

I feel like it was probably a lot more amazing at the time it came out with all the experiments in media at the time but compared to a game like Silent Hill 2 or a multimedia project like This House has People in it the whole thing came off as outdated and bland.

Am i crazy or is this just some hipster badge of honour shit at this point?

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 No.15233

>>15228

Totally agree. I have been working my way through classics this past year and was fairly interested.. was pretty let down. I didn't really learn anything I didn't already know either. Overall a lot of it seemed to apply only to his time period as well.

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 No.15234

File: 7fdc1ce4f4e61cd⋯.jpg (80.41 KB,353x541,353:541,the-idiot-the-unabridged-e….jpg)

Reading Crime and Punishment ignited a deep love for classic novels, and easily is one of my favorite three books now.

Decided to take a spin with pic related for my second journey into a Dostoevsky full length (read the double, winter nights, and a few others I cannot name by memory) and a few months later I am still currently slogging through it. Part I was decent, but now starting Part IV it is like the story resets itself every time and characters seem to be brought into the story mindlessly and just give you more to keep track of. Perhaps I am feeble-minded but I created an entire character map to identify and follow along with the characters two to four names they are called by… I never have before but I also find myself looking up chapter summaries to recap before I start reading again just to know where the plot has been going as it seems like the entire value of the book could be obtained from reading the seemingly randomly brought up rants (although they are usually fairly profound/decent rants) that Dosteovsky will get into every few chapters. The plot should be shortened to 100 or less pages, and he should have taken these rants and made short stories out of them instead of a work with seemingly no real direction.

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 No.16247

>>14467

its memed as the most patrician book you can read, so people read it and think its complete shit. its pretty god, but no masterpiece so people feel betrayed and post endlessly about what a bad time they had.

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 No.16253

File: 88b287bf667e239⋯.jpg (25.64 KB,318x471,106:157,25492903.jpg)

>>14371

READ NIGGA READ!

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 No.16263

>>15234

The Idiot was great. Don't bother trying to keep track of all the characters; most of them are unimportant. You may as well be laser focusing on every redshirt character in Star Trek TOS; they're mostly just there to fill in the background. All you really need to keep in mind is Muishkin, Nastasia Filipovna, Rogojin, and Aglaya Ivanovna. Ippolit gives an interesting rant that provides some foreshadowing, but other than that there's really no point in the book where anyone other than the main four becomes important.

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File: b7216f2d7b2ff16⋯.png (177.79 KB,250x402,125:201,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.16238 [Open thread]

Best book where the character is a god.

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 No.16254

File: 2fc007ddf56273a⋯.jpg (29.74 KB,290x475,58:95,OaPH_PA.jpg)

>Best book where the character is a god.T

That would be the Incarnations of Immortality series by Piers Anthony.

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File: 66e7d5368754a83⋯.jpg (34.19 KB,400x300,4:3,50170747_758986774478341_1….jpg)

 No.16087 [Open thread]

Memes aside, anything in his books that make observations on the current situation applicable? Early or later works? Need something that might ease me into his writings. I think I only I have one book and an essay. So /lit/erati, point me in the correct direction…

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 No.16245

Be active in the writing field. There are many good [*Spam link. "502 Cloudflare error" as well. LoL*] groups and freelance writers associations operating in many countries. Therefore, it would be great becoming a part of it in order to get acquainted with other writers, to get practical advice and to enhance your position as a self-sufficient writer. A quick search on the Internet will help you to find a local organization operating in your area.

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File: 5ded20c43f2eb98⋯.jpg (15.52 KB,219x303,73:101,220px-Francis_Fukuyama_201….jpg)

 No.15998 [Open thread]

whats the best place to start with Francis Fukuyama?

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 No.16086

>>16069

You realize I am OP and also American. Also France tends to harbor a lot of fruitcakes, so back at cha bud

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 No.16111

File: c311630a76691e9⋯.jpg (14.04 KB,267x400,267:400,The_End_of_History_and_the….jpg)

>>15998

read this and realize that people only don't accept it because he's not white

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 No.16121

Francis Fukuyama is /r/asiandienty cringe

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 No.16225

You may find a lot of his works in the trash can.

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 No.16265

derp

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