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 No.14818

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2018/08/27/is-literature-dead/

>I knew I wanted to be a writer, had begun to read with an eye toward how a book or story was built, and if this was what it took, this overriding sense of consciousness, then I would never be smart enough.

>Now, I recognize this as one of the fallacies of teaching literature in the classroom, the need to seek a reckoning with everything, to imagine a framework, a rubric, in which each little piece makes sense. Literature—at least the literature to which I respond—doesn’t work that way; it is conscious, yes, but with room for serendipity, a delicate balance between craft and art.

>That kind of writing, though, is difficult to teach, leaving us with scansion, annotation, all that sound and fury, a buzz of explication that obscures the elusive heartbeat of a book.

Gore Vidal would now butt in to congratulate English professors for a job well done. Anyway, I won't reproduce the whole essay here. Go have a look for yourself.

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 No.14824

I would not say literature is dead but rather has been buried or hidden. Part of the problem is things like the internet and the fact that we have access to so much information. The instant we get bored we can go look for something else and we are rewarded by our brains for doing so with dopamine.

Patience isn’t rewarded as much anymore so younger generations struggle to sit through a 200 page book in the best of cases. It doesnt help we’re expected to annotate and take notes that constantly draw us out of the story. I never did it anyway.and when I actually read the material I would always score higher than my classmates.

The third pissue is that kids are given access to electronics too early and are made to think reading is something you have to do and cannot enjoy. This kills any desire to want to read for them and it’s very sad.

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 No.14826

>>14818

No, it's just returned to its proper place among people of elite disposition.

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 No.14830

File: 1d050b496da1df3⋯.jpg (2.02 MB,823x5370,823:5370,Is Literature Dead .jpg)

>>14818

>I won't reproduce the whole essay here

We have multi-file uploads here, y'know?

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 No.14832

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>>14818

>expecting me to read shit

>"… the key to Common Sense is the elegance of its argument, the way it balances polemic and persuasion, addressing those on both sides of the independence issue, always careful to seek common ground. Yet equally important is the speed and fragmentation of our public conversation, which quickly moved along to Swift Boats and other issues, leaving [Michael] Moore behind. By November, Fahrenheit 9/11 was little more than an afterthought, and six years later, if we remember it at all, it’s as a dated artifact, a project whose shelf life did not even last as long as the election it sought to change.

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>''"This, in an elliptical way, is what Noah [who asserted literature is dead] was getting at. How do things stick to us in a culture where information and ideas are up so quickly that we have no time to assess one before another takes its place? How does reading maintain its hold on our imagination, or is that question even worth asking anymore?"

>give me the takeaway because the intro just seems pretentious and dull

>“This is why reading is over. None of my friends like it. Nobody wants to do it anymore.”

Basically, reading is too boring for kids today, so no one does it, so the artform is "dead". The author just accepts this, sighs, and writes an essay of his son's bleating.

>implying one kid and his friends are indicative of an entire demographic

>turning an argument with your son into a high-brow literary essay

what a pretentious wanker.

This wasn't even worth my scanning-read.

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 No.14833

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>>14826

>"Who can see the barely perceptible line between the man who can not read at all and the man who does not read at all? The literate who can, but does not, read, and the illiterate who neither does nor can?"

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 No.14843

>>14824

I almost never liked reading books in school. It wasn't till 12th grade when I was allowed to pick whatever I wanted to read did I start to really enjoy it. I've liked reading since then even if I don't really read all the time.

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 No.16696

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 No.16697

>I knew I wanted to be a writer, had begun to read with an eye toward how a book or story was built, and if this was what it took, this overriding sense of consciousness, then I would never be smart enough.

This guy is a special kind of idiot. Reading literature doesn't make one smart, nor does writing a story. Often times, writer don't have real experience in the fields or professions they are portraying in their stories.

It takes creativity and imagination. Anyone who has a story can put it in whatever medium they see fit whether it's comics, video games, or animation. However, not everyone has illustrative or programming talent to make those, which makes literature the medium taught in school as language is a skill available to most to express themselves. Additionally, it doesn't take a gorillion dollar budget or a team of underpaid third world animators to make a good book like it does for video games, film, and animation.

Every medium has its constraints, what's left ambiguous and left to reader interpretation, including said high school teacher when discussing Lord of the Flies. Just like how my literature teacher couldn't stop seeing every book through feminist lenses and going like "SEE THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT PARALLELS OUR SOCIETY".

Who in the fuck cares about the symbolism, rhythm, metaphor, and prose in your hypothetical book when you didn't even get a basic Dragonball Z-tier plot going, Or who cares about your realistic military aircraft fighter novel when you spent the first 20 pages going on about your military tomboy waifu.

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