No.12678 [Last50 Posts]
Why is this board so dead?
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No.12680
What is dead may never die!
seriously though, too little users.
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No.12683
There's a minimum amount of users a community needs to have a self-sustaining population. Anything lower than that causes a feedback loop until the community dies. That being said, we're not dead, we're just really slow. Dead means nobody posts anymore.
I think many cuck/lit/ users are unhappy but they'll tolerate the shitposting because this board isn't anywhere near fast enough to attract them.
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No.12686
Imageboards were never big on non-visual arts at the start. As time went on other hobby related boards gained a bit of traction, but their potential high points were truncated through serious competition from up and coming non-imageboard sites. /lit/, here and elsewhere, has been an amusing place to waste some time. For people who are serious at all about the written arts the action is elsewhere. In all this, imageboards are following the trend of Newsgroups of old.
Back when I migrated from 4chan I was hoping 8chan /lit/ might become a beginners group for writing, and discussions of more popular literature. This never really panned out. After a slow and steady run, in late 2016 the board's activity nosedived for whatever reasons. The April hacking blowout didn't really effect us. If anything, we're slightly more active now than before.
One illustrative example of what is happening across the chanscape was the recent /mlpol/ launch. This resulted in a new site where active and creative people congregate, collaborate, and have fun. In the more distant past I've watched the same thing happen on other boards. /tg/ spawned quite a few new sites. /mlp/ gave rise to the freakish fluffy pony booru. There are many other examples.
If you are looking for where, for what is new and exciting and packed with scads of users, Discord groups are replacing imageboards. Very generally for all things imageboard related, especially so for literature. Other more formal sites do so too, but Discord is closest in look and feel to what chans once were.
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No.12690
I haven't recently read anything bad enough to whine about, or good enough to shill.
>>12686
As structure, the model for threads I'm interested in is seen in the /mu/ Soundcloud de facto sticky, and the Christmas reading thread. You have no or liberal time limit to see and participate. Discord might interest those who like vidya nights and streams, but not those interested in PBEMs or making retarded albums.
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No.13083
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No.13091
>>12678
Why is his axe backwards?
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No.13093
>>13091
He is aiming to crush the upper spine instead of causing a large bleeding wound, thus making the post-murder clean up quicker.
Not immediatly realizing this is why you will never succeed as a hired killer.
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No.13095
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No.13103
Things tend to move slow for the literature and books scene, from my experience. You do get the super reader crowd where people are reading a book every week and following their favorite authors and things tend to happen a lot faster on that level, but your average consumer will probably read more like a book a month, and that's relatively fast.
You can measure this by how often a book or a series takes the world by storm in the same way a Hollywood blockbuster might. If you go looking for Google trends and stuff, you'll usually find some movie title on the list most of the time, and every month or so there will be a song title that people just can't get out of their heads. With books those trends are much rarer. The most recent that I can recall (leaving aside books that people don't actually read but which get mentioned anyway because they generate controversy or something) was 50 Shades of Grey, and before that it was the Harry Potter series. The Martian might have peaked somewhere on that list as well, but from my perspective that was mostly among the really nerdy crowd, so that might not count.
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No.13107
>>13103
true.
personally i think that part of the problem is that here we haven't reached critical mass.
if someone makes an OP like " i've just read X, what do you think about it?", it will likely go down the catalog. but if nobody else here has read it…
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No.13108
>>13093
why doesn't he just eat her and mop the floor afterwards?
your lack of imagination is very childish and pedantic.
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No.13109
>>13103
For short stories and movies it seems to me more likely that someone would follow publications and festivals as much as authors. Because there are many of these, it should be no surprise that only rarely is a short better than all the others.
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No.13120
>>12680
>seriously though, too little users.
You mean we're all too small? While I can't speak for everyone here, but I'm pretty normal-sized. Gotta say, that's a fairly bizarre suggested explanation.
>>12678
Unfortunately, OP, the explanation is pretty much this >>12686
>Imageboards were never big on non-visual arts at the start.
>>12686
>Discord groups are replacing imageboards
And I will never understand why. For a people traditionally tech-savvy and furiously security- and particularly privacy-conscious, this would seem an absurdly counter-intuitive move.
Aint discord the ones who basically own all the chats and datamining it for marketing companies? Now, not that hiroshimoot didn't already do this, but at least at this stage we don't know Jim's up to that. But I digress.
>recent /mlpol/ launch
HAD NO IDEA … so, what … it's /pol/ for children? or 35yos living in their mother's basement who get daily abused by her boyfriend who love ponies for some perverse reason
Or is it actual politics discussion instead of the enormous idiot echo-chamber that /pol/ has become? Or is it just cartoon horse porn for nazis?
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No.13121
>>13108
Clearly because he didn't have time for lunch before his 4 o'clock with the bankers threatening to foreclose on his business because he had to get her death acknowledged and her will processed before it.
Your lack of appreciation for just how busy his day is going to get is quite inconsiderate and shameful.
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No.13212
>>12678
We can change this anon, we can convert 8chan/lit/ what 4chan/lit/ failed to be.
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No.13219
>>12678
>muh booooooooooooooooooooks
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No.13223
>>13120
>/mlpol/ … ?
>HAD NO IDEA … so, what … it's /pol/ for children?
It's more important as a means to demonstrate the current nature of imageboards, especially when taken together with similar events. Strange how it never settled on halfchan or 8Chan for a home base? I'll leave any further analysis of this for the latest board page entry, for later. If I can ever wring my notes together into a readable form.
As for the site itself, a fairly large proportion of the content creators have zero interest in /mlp/ or the animated series. It's not like the artistic style is hard to mimic. If your leanings are not redpilled NatSoc proper you're not gonna gain much traction there, not that it matters. They're in it for the stupidly laughtastic levels of fun with all else and especially source material or political tracts be damned.
Last I checked they were having an intersite raid war with /sp/. A rather robust burst of creative activity for some supposedly stupid April 1st one off, no?
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No.13227
>>13120
>And I will never understand why. For a people traditionally tech-savvy and furiously security- and particularly privacy-conscious, this would seem an absurdly counter-intuitive move.
I see this mostly as a 4cuck move. People tried to shill Discord channels here and nobody appreciated it, and most boards banned them. For 4chan I understand why - trying to make a thoughtful post is a nightmare on that website. Shitposters abound, everything moves fast and gets pushed off the board within hours, and you'll probably catch a ban for the silliest of reasons anyway. Discord gives them the ability to quickly set up a community toward a single purpose or to foster a small community, and to achieve moderation self-determination. You also see a lot of current and former 4chan posters move to Twitter for the same reason; you can stay in your own circle and post in DM groups, or interface with the outside world, a world ripe for mockery.
This site is honestly the perfect answer to their problems. It is the imageboard format with self-determined moderation, customizability, and free hosting. You can get a couple friends together and make a small, unlisted circlejerk, or you can make a board with the goal of accommodating a large community. For some reason, however, it is scorned. I think it's their preconceptions fueled by website drama: "It's /pol/chan," "the leadership is untrustworthy," "I only go there to shitpost when I'm banned." All these problems are solved by just going to a competing website, but for some reason they stick to Discord instead.
>>13223
>Last I checked they were having an intersite raid war with /sp/. A rather robust burst of creative activity for some supposedly stupid April 1st one off, no?
More like a burst of butthurt. They got mad that /sp/ stole their GET, so they permabanned all GETball participants and blanketed /sp/ with cartoon horses and forced memes for about a week. Of course /sp/ is no stranger to bouts of spam, so nobody really cared and life went on.
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No.13322
Greetings /lit/ BO. /pdfs/ here. I see in the board list that this place has around the same amount of users as my board, and nobody discusses anything on my board. Even so I'd like a more varied userbase to come to /pdfs/ and share their favorite e-books, and I'm certain you would like more traffic to your own board.
So I propose you add /pdfs/ to your related board links and in return I'll add /lit/ to my links. What say you?
Also, you could try adding some board tags for this place. On the front page when I type literature into the tags search bar your board doesn't appear.
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No.13327
>>13322
not the BO, but i'll probably drop by…
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No.13329
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No.13331
>>13322
>GIMMIE LINKAGE!
We tried to launch our own library of sorts. It never took off, and has been depreciated. /pdfs/ always was the largest repository here on 8Chan that I am aware of. Done, although how long the main page takes to regenerate and propagate is anyone's guess.
>Board tags be 404, mon.
Yet another casualty of the April hack. We added three or four way back when shortly after claiming the board. I'll look into it.
Thank you.
Update
That is, it will be added if it can be added. The system is ignoring my attempts to edit the board banner. Why am I not surprised? I'll keep at it, but I'm not going to waste my daily siesta with a interface fumble fest marathon.
Stay tuned …
Updated update
Put on the Damage, Inc. trac, volume to max, make the changes, bump and rebuild board index …
Come on you mother …
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No.13335
>>13331
Thanks, I'll update /pdfs/ as soon as I can. Sometimes it takes a while for changes to go through, it's a strange thing. I've edited my links recently and it went through almost immediately. Before that though it took time for the system to even recognize I'd saved new links and then they took days to appear.
There's a thread here that might help
>>>/sudo/45973
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No.13339
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No.14032
basically /pol/ dominates most of the traffic. too bad because there's a shit ton of other subboards worth delving into. my suspicion is that normalfags just heard about the chans and only heard about /pol/ and want their own echo chamber. on the contrary /leftypol/s mods are controlling little shits with no sense of humor. so I spend more time on other boards because I want deeper knowledge than those boards offer. unfortunately not everyone feels that way.
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No.14036
>>12686
>Discord are replacing imageboards
On what basis? Discord only attract turbo shitters, and while 4chin and this place may have been infested by normies in the last decade, the premise of the imageboards and their users were still very very different than Discord's
Never meet anyone actually serious and competent about anything that used discord. I'm not even joking or trying to sound rude.
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No.14037
>>14036
It depends on the nature one looks for in an imageboard, I suppose. All that I have found of excitement, creativity, entertainment, and activity defining /lit/ related doings is to be found among Discord groups. Couple that with more traditional websites, some professional, some not so much. All are out there to be taken advantage of and, to contribute to. So go forth and enjoy!
The best we can look forward to is this: >>14033
Such a method of expression is not generally a problem. /mlpol/ demonstrates plenty of fun to be had. However, past a certain point, casual drivebys of nothing but move all into the banal. Content creators—writers—inclined to roll with the Counter-Currents side of the market aren't found here. Neither yet the Pluto Press crew. Nor Baen, nor Tor, nor The Paris Review. All share in common one theme: they hate being bored. All are out there, care to guess where?
The situation is analogous in the visual arts, despite being more central to the point of imageboards. I won't revisit my observations of what artists once found worthwhile across the chanscape. They too have relocated to recapture what was.
If none of this is to your liking all I can say is I am an observer of trends, not a promoter of ends. I offer no other specifics.
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No.14046
>>14036
I think it's a 4cuck thing caused by 4cuck problems. They're overcrowded and overstimulated. It's hard to have a nice conversation with the constant flow of shitposts and topics falling off the board, so some people look for sidechains to discuss niche topics or just slow the pace of conversation. Even scooping a slow board with a sieve would get you enough users to have a nice refuge. Despite a place like this being suited for just that purpose, they choose to use Discord for some reason. Probably years worth of FUD and hard feelings preventing them from coming here.
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No.14050
the mods on 4chans lit are not nazis so banned people dont have to come here. most of 8 chan is just permad 4chan users
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No.14051
>>14050
No, I can post on 4/lit/, and 8/lit/ hasn't banned anybody.
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No.14064
>>14037
You are right. All my favorite boards got parasitized by discord. I also think it's highly suspect that they heyday of 8chan was 2015, and it started to decline shortly after discord was launched.
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No.14067
>>13121
I find it odd that you've failed to grasp how the man himself is also a banker and can swiftly reschedule the meeting to next week.
Your inability to understand work relationships is baffling.
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No.14074
>>14067
Wait a moment. Do you mean the economy is so bad that a man who is both a bank manager and a business owner has to moonlight as a hired killer?
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No.14169
>>13091
>>13093
>>13108
>>13121
>>14067
>>14074
>hanging out on /lit/
>not knowing what this is
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No.14231
>>13227
Churn, pretty much. There's not enough turnover in some boards, so more niche ones just get abandoned by anyone who was used to 4chan's normal speed.
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No.14232
Customize the a e s t h e t i c s of the board more. Have useful stickies. More theme threads "Tapirbro "post your ideas, it's not like they're being published." ect.
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No.14233
>>14232
>Customize the a e s t h e t i c s of the board
I can get behind this
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No.14335
>>12678
Because we're all still on 4chan /lit/
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No.14338
4/lit/ used to be slow but once the /pol/ and /leftypol/ faggots started showing up to ask for books to justify their ridiculous beliefs instead of to inform them the traffic boomed at the expense of quality. It's still one of the better effortpost to shitpost ratios on 4 but it's getting worse, and the threads are increasingly the same. If we can up post traffic without resorting to spamming Jordan Peterson or Noam Chomsky or whatever we can grow beautifully.
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No.14339
Just a reminder that the best way to make /lit/ more active is to post more frequently
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No.14340
>>14232
>>14233
If the BO wants to make a custom theme, fine, but I doubt it will make the board more popular. Look at boards like /cyber/, /fringe/ or /kc/, they all have custom themes but it doesn't seem to help them much. The fastest/most popular boards all use the standard theme.
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No.14344
4/lit/ is full of more shit than usual and I am banned and can't even shitpost to correct and guide them but I have gotten a spectacular amount of reading done. Frankly I am torn
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No.14345
>>14344
If you're the guy that keeps posting culture of critique stay gone
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No.14349
>>14345
sad to say but I have yet to drag my poor mind through that minefield hoping it comes out in one piece on the other side in order to understand its appeal. I was permabanned for posting a heavily edited nude of a prominent irish "waifu" and the whiteknights did not appreciate it
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No.14546
>>14345
only 4 stars. why?
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No.15339
Don't be surprised. Death is a fundamental part of literature.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mpz0kJTyBg
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No.15362
>>12678
Halfchan's /lit/ board is super active. I'm happy they're not on fullchan though, too many faggots among them. This board is slow, but that's okay. We've filtered out most of the plebs. I wish we could bring some of the better /lit/ posters from halfchan and try to vamp things up around here, but until then, cheers boys.
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No.15364
>>14345
He’s actually the one posting all the Behead All Satans shit
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No.15365
Reading stories is so dull, especially the parts about characters. I just no longer have the patience to see if a book is good despite having them.
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No.15514
>>14169
yeah, but theyz a bizarrely amusing conversation
>>14344
>that pic
Wheein so puuuuuurrrrdy
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No.15533
>>15362
I don't go on our active boards here, so I've gotten used to it being slow. The fastest one I visit is /k/ and I mostly lurk it these days. I do wish It wasn't such a crawl sometimes.
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No.15535
>>14344
Asians are so butt-ugly.
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No.15635
>>13219
kill yourself turkroach
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No.15636
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No.16036
>>15362
Given that whole countries have just been range-banned from half-lit it's probably a fair bet that some spillover will arrive here.
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No.16037
I can't stand 4chan /lit/ anymore. The same cheap baits, the same memes, the same /r9k/ and /pol/ cross posters. That board is completely trash now.
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No.16041
>>16037
It's your post that actually seems like bait since 4/lit/'s biggest problem obviously is trannypol and asshurt redditors shitting up the place with their nonsense.
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No.16049
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No.16051
I wasnt even ware this board existed
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No.16104
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No.16108
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No.16117
>>16108
Why would aliens give someone's cat a beard?
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No.16119
>>16117
based cat beadin aliens them's who
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No.16154
maybe new posters will come on in
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No.16159
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