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Another interesting explanation of 555 Angel Number Meaning I found on https://glaminati.com/555-angel-number-meaning/ . I didn't think I would get that deep into numerology, but it is really addictive. However, I don't always understand what a particular numerical value means, so I have to resort to sites like this with useful information.

>>19732

You started this post alright with the connection to Eastern gods, because of course there's a connection because og PIE roots. However, as soon as you mentioned the supposed Turkish connection and your reasoning for it your post went to shit and then just further down.

Firstly, the runic similarities are only visual. The letters don't correspond with one another at all. The reasons for the similarities are likely because they wrote on similar surfaces (rock and wood) and that they adopted their letters from a similar source, likely Greek or some Aramaic script, from trading and/or travelling. At most you could say they got inspired from one another, but there's no concrete record for such interactions between them.

Second, your claim that Germanic Gods, culture, and languages, have Turkish origin, is blatantly false and historically illiterate. You must be a turk to make such a claim. Anyway, the Gods between the two are similar because they both derive from PIE source, same reason why Eastern religions are related. Phonetic similarities for their names are also there because of the same reason. You make connections between religious terms and names in old norse and Turkish, when you don't know what the old norse terms even mean. Yggdrasil doesn't even mean "World Tree", it means Óðinn's Carrier (Yggr (freightful) + drasil (horse, an animal that carries or drags)), a symbolic reference to how the tree carries him (literally by hanging) through a terrifying/terrific experience of ascension and rebirth. Ásgarðr means Fortress/Garden of the High Ones (Áss meaning high and Garðr meaning a closed off area). Ostrogoth does not com from Austergok. Ostro means eastern, yes, but that's not a reference to Turkey but rather that they are an eastern Gothic tribe. East as in eastern Germania. The term Goth comes from Got-þioda, Got People. The term is likely related to Gautar, a name for a tribe in southern Scandinavia.

And since you mentioned "horse-eating culture", note that horses were not universally eaten among all germanic peoples. They were eaten by some and others shunned eating them.

>>19711

To understand reincarnation, one must first understand The Spirit. Your Being is comprised of multiple levels, not just two components (body and an soul, like in Christianity). One must also understand that these components correspond to the Divine Hierarchy. The most general components is the Tripartite. Óð, Fylgja, Hamr. Those three correspond to the First Act of creation, where Óðinn, Vilji, and Vé killed the primordial Jötunn Ymir to Make Existence. Hamr is the form, body, needs, the physical. Fylgja is your twin spirit, That Which Follows but also Pulls You Forward. It is an inherited spirit that comes before you, is above you In The Now, that is to say it's above you in Body. It is the Will which pulls you towards the Higher, to better Hamingja by gaining honor. The Fylgja is also represented by the Horse, so for Óðinn it is Sleipnir, and in some sense Ymir as well. It's inherently ancestral, so it can be thought to be a single manifestation of your ancestors, but more accurately their Spiritual Honor. Then, there is Óð, The One Who Directs. This is your Highest, your true spirit, and it is this that gives Higher Inspiration (to be Óðr is to be divinely inspired) and Revelation.

There are more parts of your being, as shown with the accompanying animals of Óðinn. Huginn and Munnin are his two ravens, who represent the mind and memory, and they fly all over to accumulate knowledge for Óðinn. In the same manner, our mind and memory works the same way. Then there are his wolves, Freki and Geri, they represent ambition and initiative but not in the purely physical sense as in greed and act. All of these accompanying animals are types of Fylgjas to Óðinn, and for us they are necessary components of your Being.

So to summarise, the Hierarchy of Being within us is thus:

Óð

Fylgja

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Hugr & Minni

Frek & Ger

Hamr

Solt & Losti

>>19713

cont.

Now, with that out of the way, we can move on to the nature of reincarnation. That which is of a higher nature, that is Fylgja and Óð, those parts reincarnate. Or rather, one part reincarnates whilst the other lives on forever. The Fylgja reincarnates multiple times through a family, and it is what shapes the family and Pulls it towards honor and better Hamingja (hence the relation between the two). According to Tradition, the fylgja manifests physically for each person as the placenta (which itself is also called fylgja for that reason, at least in old Norse), in order to shape and create the new born person and attach a certain Óð to them, and hence the relation to Ymir (The Twin, every Creative Act requires a Sacrifice, in this case it is the body of the Fylgja, the fylgja, and it dies after the new person is born). This is why they were traditionally buried almost like a person, either under a threshold of a house or under a sacred tree.

The Óð, the highest part of your being, both reincarnates and stays in an afterlife. It reincarnates in that it possesses a new body after a certain amount of time, to experience new lives and accumulate more Honor and Hamingja. However, just like how Óðinn sends out his mind and memory to do that task, our Óð likewise sends such aspects of itself to do that task.

One of the crucial aspects of paganism is reconnecting to your Óð. This is something only those that live according to a Higher Ideal (trust their Óð and Fylgja, live according to the thousands of year old ancestral wisdom) can achieve. And they did this by remembering past lives. The only things that one truly remembers from a past lives are moments which were of a spiritual importance to the person, hence why living according to a higher ideal was necessary (to live honorably and heroically, do something memorable). The myths again point as to how then remember, by going through a ceremony of rebirth which acts out like how Óðinn hang on Yggdrasil and how the gods found golden tablets in the mounds in Völuspá, and countless other metaphors in other myths and even later folklore. Probably the best description of a person describing the feeling was by Sæmundr Fróði in is Sólarljóð. In Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>19714

This is fascinating. And it does match my previous research about the nature of the soul. Why have I never checked out this board before?

Where can I read more?

>>19721

Well, this board is pretty dead most of the times. I don't know why though, I'm rather new here myself. It's a shame, this board would have had a lot of potential.

There's not a whole lot of places you can read about this that I can point to directly. I'm myself Icelandic so I just read the source material in old norse. So, it wasn't too hard for me to understand the stories. That coupled with related Icelandic folklore and traditions that I grew up with, so I just learned this myself. I also read Icelandic academic papers that I come across. So all of the sources I can point to are either in Icelandic or Old Norse, so they might not be that helpful. But, even so, my recommendation is to just read the Eddas and try to translate the names, with an Old Norse or Icelandic dictionary or online search. Comparative mythology would do good too, that's where I lack due to my lack knowledge of other mythologies (and I don't know the source languages of those myths which would be very helpful). Then just ask questions, as many questions as you can think of both to others and yourself.

If you want youtube videos, STJ makes some good videos. There are some things he can do better, but overall it's alright enough to at least start with.

>>19722

Oh that's cool. Have any of you ever shared these subjects with anons on the imageboard webring through anon.cafe? They're from when the site used to be known as 8chan but they're not exactly that fast, either, the least slow among them being 8chan.moe

>>19680

Loki did actually go and solve a lot of the problems he caused once confronted with them though, never heard of them cleaning up (((their))) own messes the way he often did.

>>19680

Clearly you didn't read the myths yourself (otherwise you would know for instance that Ragnarök is not the end of the Gods, and like what the post above said Loki fixed a lot of his problems himself and many of them indirectly benefited the Gods greatly). And if you would then clearly you likely wouldn't have the capability to grasp the myths further than word for word reading (without even understanding them).

Come back when you're more matured spiritually. When you stop viewing the myths and therefore the world through the lense of a contemporary time.

>>19709

Retard, the fact that Pythagoras proposed that the earth was round is fact enough that it was not invented by the Catholic church, and you still completely gloss over the entirety of Christianity's existence where the vast majority of their theologians and followers proposed a flat earth model and considered anything else as heresy. You absolute baboon.

>So you're just basing this off of pure speculation and no actual evidence to back it up. The only thing's that were pulled were the Sun, and the Moon, and they don't pull it in space, outer space does not exist, the Sun, and Moon are simply just luminaires, and not terra-firma objects that you land on, same goes for the Stars, they're just luminaires that are attached to the firmament/skydome that covers the Earth. The Sun , and Moon are simply pulled in the sky, above the clouds, not in "space".

Don't mistake my care for presenting evidence in a factual and honest manner as speculation, it's more grounded in reality than the junk you spouted. You make a lot of claims without any referencial basis, they are not grounded in what is actually written. And you completely miss the point I made, you aren't supposed to read the myths as literal, physical descriptions. This is further seen in your next paragraph.

>One last thing, if you claim that flat-earth isn't in Asatru, then why does the creation story involve beating Ymir's body down, and crushing it, do you think that would somehow appear round, and how about the fact that Odin, and his two brothers literally get Ymir's skull and use it as the firmament/skydome, if the Earth is just flying in space why even need a skydome?

The story doesn't envolve them pinning him down like you pin a person down to the ground. There are no literal descriptions as to how they defeated him, only that they subdue and then kill him. You then go to claim that they used his body to create "the firmament". There's no such term in the myths, they only say that they made Miðgarðr (The Central Home, Our Home) out of various parts of his body. You are trying to shove the mythPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

For all the reasons cited above, this is retarded. However, if anyone is interested in an alternative cosmology that works well with Asatru, consider the Glacial Cosmogony.