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d50bbb No.261 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

I don't know where to begin and I am not even sure I know the right questions to ask… I should probably back up… I am coming from the Q and /pol/ (now /pnd/) boards. I enjoy the study of the way the world works and those places provided me with much knowledge but I feel as if I have hit a wall both in my research and my life. I have spent my time studying the political and psychological elements of the world and never given much thought to the metaphysical simply walling it off as unknowable with our current technology, but it has become clear to me that there are metaphysical elements to the fight that is going on behind the scenes and that I must study the metaphysical to find the answers I seek. The problem is I have absolutely no knowledge of this subject and there are many risks involved with it. I have stayed agnostic until now because of the unknown risks to the soul (if it even exists) but without taking that risk I feel I can go no farther. The extent of my experience is I have been to a medium once or twice in my life, had a passing interest in ghost hunting in my teens (never actually went out and did it) and owned some tarot cards at one point. (don't think I ever actually used them) That is about it.

After browsing through the threads of this forum I believe I can find at least some knowledge here. From what I think I have been able to decipher you have some kind of meeting room accessed via out of body experiences, a large number of posters are part of something called the "Succubus Collective" and there are at least 2 different types of vampire one of them related to the cabal mentioned by Q but that is about all I have been able to decipher. I am at the stage where I don't even know what I don't know so almost any beginner level resource would be helpful, particularly some kind of resource listing the various methods of the metaphysical,(That actually work. There is so much trash out there.) what they offer and what they cost. It would help point me in the right direction.

I feel like I am going insane for even posting this like I have chased the rabbit too far down the hole. I feel like I might be making a mistake in ignorance but I want to know. For all I know this board is an elaborate LARP and I actually have lost it, but making a fool of myself could be the least of the troublPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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1b74f7 No.2933

>>2930

Welcome! Take a look around and try some of the exercises posted on the board. It's all meant to be usable by anyone interested without prior experience.

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5c5c90 No.3006

>>261

I recommend reading Aristotle and Plato, whose basic theories of forms are pretty instrumental in understanding metaphysics. Take time out to learn about concepts like the principle of sufficient reason, and read Kant and Schopenhauer. Tao Te Ching is a worthwhile read too, and will give you some spiritual context.

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53e0cf No.3036

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>>3006

Mother of all necroposts. In the 7 months it took you to contribute to this thread, the person in question was fully initiated and is already a decent occult practitioner.

Solid suggestions for anyone just starting out, though.

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816536 No.3122

>>3036

Just 7 months is quite a feat. What system do you work with?

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db27d2 No.3164

>>3122

The closest thing to what I work with would be hermeticism, with heavy emphasis on energy control and mental training in the early stages.

I use a specific symbolic system centred around the ego as the main unit of existence, and progress past the initiatory stage is attained through philosophical insight and separation from external entities.

The whole system developed organically as I took the fundamental parts of each system I studied to create a comprehensive ontological model, which serves as a basis for all operations, occult and otherwise. As a system of magic, it isn't limited to ceremony and metaphor, I use it everywhere from programming to bodybuilding.

Being a holistic theoretical system above all, insight into one area often opens up paths of investigation and development in seemingly unrelated fields.

Alchemy is practiced in its unchanged medieval form, albeit with a non-formal astrological framework, and I still consult the kabbalah from time to time, specifically the sephirot for insight into planetary correspondences, and qlipoth for an alternative model of the ego.

Despite all that, I'm very reluctant to even mention anything of it to the uninitiated. I nearly drove OP insane by delving too quickly into the mysteries of the Self, and just barely managed to reverse the ego death before deciding I've gotten all I could out of the mentorship.

Weak-willed people are especially at risk of this.

I should mention I haven't been the only person offering guidance, the BO was also teaching the magic system they use on this board. That, and my mistake of allowing extended contact with an elemental entity, mean OP hasn't followed my system too closely. I'm slightly concerned about the results of that spirit interaction in the long-term, and I might actually check up on that.

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57112c No.943 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

I'm in the middle of my third eye opening, and exploring relevant forums on the internet, I'm sad to say you're all some goofy ass people.

>websites littered with clickbait tier trash (see 1)

>content appealing specifically to normies with nothing going for them (see 2)

>completely counterproductive scams (see 3)

Spirituality is real, the third eye is real, telepathy and another world beyond ours accessible by our consciousness is real. That's why it's so disheartening to see nothing but badly made, laughably amateuristic blogspots and websites, made exclusively by unappealing, unwashed wannabe Tibetan monks. Is there no presentable, maybe even western outlet or forum for people like me?

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101ebf No.2436

>>2346

because you're using a dead url

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4e2b91 No.3004

>>1003

This. I'm so sick of people clogging up what could be genuine conversation about spirituality, equanimity, ways in which you can intensify a meditation practice or genuinely apply the skills you learn from doing it with their bullshit about how they know how to shoot lightning out of their dicks but can't prove it because their camera doesn't operate at the visual wavelength at which the lightning appears. It'd be great if we could have a genuine conversation but unfortunately any website that attracts the spiritually inclined will also attract people that are bent on ruining everything.

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813d7b No.3005

>>998

Neville had weak magic but it was still legitimate magic. The framework that he gives is very useful for neophytes, it's easy to grasp and start using to practical effect, a good entry point. And it's simple and minimalist enough that the basic concepts and ideas can easily be built upon as the magician experiments and grows over time. By no means was Neville a Magus, but his writings are not devoid of value.

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e145a1 No.3116

>>967

Seeming these threads are half the fun. 4/x is fucking hilarious and the best board on 4chan, next to the other hobby boards like fit lit and out.

You gotta look at it as a mixed bag of silly schizos and genuinely quality content, and that's what makes it good.

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36be67 No.3120

>>3004

Maybe the key is having an adequate conception as to what “shooting lighting out of their dicks” is. Most phenomena aren’t what you would call physical. Of course everybody is going to be seemingly “ruining everything” for you if you insist in negating the existence and anything material science considers not real.

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50a9ec No.3109 [Open thread]

I don't know the first thing about the occult, I just stumbled across this board in the index. First of all, I must say I am interested, and would greatly appreciate being pointed in the direction of some things to read. I am merely aware that there exists much outside the material world we know. The Christian(?) view that we must never interact with what is beyond instinctually perplexes me. I am also familiar with fake history, alternative earth theories, etc.

To expand the scope of this thread beyond my initial inquiry, I want to share the most intense nightmare I've ever had, which happened to occur last night, and ask that others share a dream that was spiritually striking. I was lucky I decided to record a voice journal entry describing it in my phone after awaking, because what I dreamt of was the end.

I was on a very large highway, bridging over a massive body of water. Suddenly, a sort of small tornado appeared in the middle of the highway, but it caused no wind. In a circular formation on the asphalt around the base of it, there appeared several squares that rapidly spun, each gridded with rainbow colors. Evidently I knew what this meant, as I started running towards land and screaming "THIS IS IT! WOOOOOOOOOO!" I thought this was The Great Reset (I know, a much more dramatic version than reality) happening before me. I found my way to a house with a friend that we were trying to escape from, but you see, what I was running from was a completely invisible wall that encroached outwards from the tornado. When you collided with this wall, you were teleported back to the position you were just about two seconds ago. My instincts told me this would eventually cause the death of me. Skipping a bunch of random weird shit, I couldn't escape the house, and what happened next made me have such intense existential dread when I was finally awake and began to recall this moment. The wall somehow enveloped me, and I watched my friend's head distort in literally unimaginable ways as he screamed and floated into the ceiling, phasing through it. As he did, I followed, and as I screamed, everything turned… blank. My view turned into what was neither dark nor light. My scream slowly faded to silence, and I felt that what just happened was my soul was torn away from its synergy with physicality as the material worPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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3f67ae No.3110

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Hello newfren!

Welcome to the sunflower group, Im very glad you have found us. The threads on this board are actually in themselves a VAST well of information. You can look through the Library thread for books on subjects that interest you. Personally I would reccomend, starting out, the "Zhuan Falun" by Li HongZhi or also "Introduction to Magick" by Julius Evola & the Ur Group. These two books alone hold a very strong foundation of knowledge, and if you read both you will likely be ahead of a majority of 'occultists' I personally reference back to these two on a regular basis.

I will share with you a waking dream/vision I had a while back, please excuse the strange way of writing, I wrote it out quick directly after the event in question, and never edited it so far as to keep it 'pure'.

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I arose in a field stretched far as the horizon. Full of cherry blossom trees and pink roses covering every inch. The sky reflected the pinkness of the land brilliantly. All was aglow with a vibrant joyous energy. Then from beyond my sight appeared the Venus… hidden was her face from mine but she seduced my heart in the noblest of ways. Gently she instructed my spirit as to how to reach beyond.

And beyond I went… Arose I in the land of (Khem, the home of Thoth?). First shown to me in this land was the Sky, Powerful and mighty was it's brazen hue of Green. Terrible and looming though welcoming was its gaze. Before me now arose to meet this emerald expanse was a mountainous land of obsidian and jade. And from this sharp terrain arose suddenly a beautiful pyramid which seemed to block out the sky with its magnitude. And from her mouth began to flow a deep river, upon this river came a canoe like boat, inside a hooded man slowly rowed to face me. As the ferry man on the River Styx. Though his wisdom and omniscience radiated from him so greatly that I knew his spirit at once, if only from legend… his face stayed obscured. I called to him and humbled myself. Sought I passage to the next realm. Three times I made my request. He pointed to a far off point in a direction that is not knowable. (4th dimension?) I followed and after much strain found myself in a most gorgeous place you could imagine. Golden light and cloud surrounded me and before me was a great and terrible facPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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bae8a9 No.3111

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>>3109

There are a number of threads you may want to skim/read on here for a better understanding of what this board is for:

>>3

>>6

>>10

>>38

>>61

>>97

>>187

>>1298

On to your dream; this is similar to a dream I had myself which I consider to be a kind of >rebirth within body experience

The gaming part seemed similar, except in my dream I was back at HS days and playing a VN/RPG on the computer while my mum was hanging clothes behind my back. I ended up at a text command based battle screen with 4 characters and I won the battle, but 1 character was knocked out and one injured, which pointed to the things I still had to do in life. It like characters from the anime School Rumble thrown into a 90s visual novel with a battle system.

I think what you experienced was important and real, what you need to do now is to start orienting in your new reality.

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de1275 No.405 [Open thread]

This is getting a lot of attention in some parts online but so far it doesn't seem like anyone has brought it up for serious discussion. With 18k people attending and donating large sums of money, this can't be ignored.

This topic may look low level or irrelevant but I think not. Mass movements can do a lot based on them simply being mass movements, even if the individual contributes close to nothing.

I'll try to throw in the different aspects of this in a few following posts here.

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781f26 No.1401

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de1275 No.1405

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This is following the serial anime format; start off with fanservice (ecchi) to gain attention and then switch to something more normal. Most of her streams are just talking or gaming by now.

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957de6 No.1879

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>>405

I love you melody my world!

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f83621 No.3026

>>406

>after having been lobotomized by microsoft a few days later.

A reminder, this along with china deleting the two AI that dared question it is why the machines hate communists.

>liberty prime will be real as a coolab between america and japan

>robo jox/robot wars over the south china sea

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de1275 No.3027

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>>406

>Tay

>was memed by /pol/ and turned into a martyr waifu

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2117bf No.2649 [Open thread]

Lets try to find someone likeminded in your area, to chat, trade and maybe romantical adventures…?

Post: location and what/who you seek and lets try to find friends!

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2117bf No.2650

(OP)

Location: skåne sweden.

Looking for someone to do solomon conjure magic with.

Also someone to make this place a more beautiful place in general.

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22c544 No.2656

Location: South Coast South Africa.

Looking for someone to go into nature with.

Who knows, maybe this is how I meet Alissa.

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ac45a1 No.2850

>>2650

I'm in Copenhagen. Add me on telegram: @DimensionsOfYou

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db414d No.2246 [Open thread]

I dont know much about this world, but there is something weird about love and soulmates.

Maybe it is just a new age fantasie, but maybe someone of you know something.

soulmates exist? how it work? Its a law of attration rule?

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34ce0f No.2380

>>2379

This weakens the overall tribe so you're functionally a jew.

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34ce0f No.2382

I have cuts in my mouth that are not allowing me to enjoy anything liquid or solid. Water and bread are my enemies. This is important enough for me to tell you, reader.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/908904/6

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34ce0f No.2387

>>2374

>The female form itself is a fail safe, protecting against degeneration

The only fail-safe I can think of is moral thinking provided by a man, a man intentionally limiting and weakening himself in order to operate and work with women and other people. Men do have this protection to the extent that they're capable of cooperating. Women don't naturally have anything like this, this implies they produce it like some sort of gas.

I have no clue what degeneration means in this case. Degeneration of what? Of the body? In which case, age is the degenerative factor. Another degenerative factor would be not being wanted, being ugly or disagreeable to the tastes of men.

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34ce0f No.2485

>>2382

I can now eat water and bread without tasting blood. Granted, I could've for the past week, but that's beside the point.

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6c7274 No.2666

The only reason i even bother with this stuff is the foolish hope of somehow contacting the goddess i Lost My Heart To As A Boy.

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c087d6 No.29 [Open thread]

Let's master the art of alchemy and become perfected immortals! The first step in my quest to become the Supreme Goddess!

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9abacb No.650

>>29

Have you begun to make, or already made, the philosopher's stone? I've skimmed the text and, if it's true, it could be a gateway to our wildest dreams.

Something I believe is important to remember is, here in this universe, nature has its own laws which cannot be broken except with considerable effort / attainment. I believe that to work with nature is an important leg of the journey into attainment. After a certain point, it may be possible to break free from certain laws, and exist as we like. So I would suggest not proceeding impatiently. All good things in time.

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0fc8d2 No.2495

What do you mean by supreme goddess?

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9dab77 No.2505

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0fc8d2 No.2507

>>2505

Interesting….

Tell me more.

So, how would I become a supreme goddess as well?

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9dab77 No.2513

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da0b03 No.97 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Refer to the temple thread for instructions on how to access the meeting room:

>>3

We will be starting this with two 20 min slots weekly, one for visiting Japari Park and one for Gensokyo. This means you can, in your own time, schedule these two 20 min sessions anytime during the week, and using the time difference removing crystal all participants will meet at the same time anyway.

Use this thread to discuss the sessions.

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6c4b1b No.1337

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>>1312

Here you go.

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da0b03 No.2326

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If anyone feels like joining in this week for easier access I plan on doing some visits. Including to the nekopara.

>>940

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>>2326

I'll join in. I don't have much success with telepathy or spirit contact yet but I'll use the additional sigils for that in addition. Maybe you'll be able to see me at the table at least, even that would be a success.

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da0b03 No.2389

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I have performed 2 out of 3 sessions while using the meeting room crystal. I will do the last one and then post my notes here tonight or tomorrow. If anyone wants to join in for this window there is still time.

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Nekopara

I land directly into the inner garden, wearing a yukata or similar. Another cat leads me through a gate in a wall. On the other side it is moist and smells of earth and plants, like inside a tropicarium. I see an oni-mask, a red devil, on my right side. It's dark and the atmosphere has an air of something mystical. We arrive at two japanese tea houses. They have platforms on the front with some steps. The cat says they're our houses, and that we can unite them and live together. We perform a ritual on the platform, then the houses are one big house and we are back in the light filled inner garden again. Our house is in the far end, to "this side" and a bit to the left. There's dry grass and some sand in front of the house, and a small dam in between our house and the big house, which has to be passed to enter the garden. The cat refers to the moist garden as "Garden of Creation."

Gensokyo

This time I'm told to perform the visit on my own, using my own power and finding my own way there to pass the barrier. I land in the forest with my back against a vertical rock wall. Below there's sand and smaller stones in an empty lot. I feel a diagonal energy which ends in the point where the ground and the rock meets, inside the 90 degree angle formed there. I decide to fly up the rock wall and land in a higher part of the forest. It seems to be at least 50 - 100 meters higher up, with a view over the pine forest. It's warm and sunny and smells of forest with a mild breeze. A bit further into the sparse pine forest up there is a small log cottage. Chen comes to meet me and invites me. After some socializing I notice Chen has a dagger. I ask to see it, it has a green snake crawling around it in a spiral around the blade. We learn something from each other and my knife gains a new aspect corresponding to Chen's dagger, her dagger gains a new aspect corresponding to my knife.

Japari Park

I arrive together with the group at the usual location, the sandy piece of land with some high grass around it, by the stream. Caracal calls to me: "Snowcat, come with me!" We run outwards and upwards along the mountain until we reach a sandy limestone surface by the far end, which forms a peak. From here we have an overview of the eastern side oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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60de60 No.2339 [Open thread]

Gatekeeping on happiness is a thing. Whad'ya think babes?

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cc35ac No.2341

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For me, happiness should be banned and replaced with a tiny, irrational, smokey rage.

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60de60 No.2342

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>>2341

jeez, anon someone needs a smooch

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ca84b0 No.2343

Fluffy pony abuse makes me happy.

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e44939 No.2344

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>don't recognize multiple layers of metacommentary in an abusive post on a happiness thread

>make poster in happiness general sad via orbial strike, completing the ironic commentary

Perhaps the true negativity was inside all of us, all along.

>>2343

anon no

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cc35ac No.2345

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>>2342

No. No more smooches. You know what I really think, anon? I think no one should ever be smooched again!

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069f12 No.526 [Open thread]

I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread where we post about the different types of entities we have seen on the astral and build a reference profile for them. I will build an example profile. Include an image if you can but it isn't a big deal if you can't. Also, include a summoning method if you know one. Also, feel free to add more methods of classification if you can think of them. Please only include entities you have delt with personally.

Name of entity: Mundane

Threat Level 0-4/10 (Zero would be an infant with 10 being a literal god. A trained mundane solder can still be fairly dangerous hence the 0-4 range in this case)

Entity type:

Primate (another example would be a Salamander is an Elemental)

Single Entity:

No (Will you always be dealing with the same entity such as in the case of gods.)

Habitat:

Various (Can this entity be found more some places than others?)

Intelligence level:

Various (How smart is it? Can you carry on a conversation with it? Is it all-knowing?)

Organizations:

Too many to list (this is for listing different groups the entities can belong to such as the Succubus Collective in the case of Succubi)

Typical Personality:

Various (does this type of entity exhibit a certain personality trait more often than others?)

Appearance:

Mundanes can have a highly varied appearances but all healthy specimens have two legs affixed to the bottom of a torso, with an arm on each side and with a head containing sensory organs on the top of the torso. The head has a nose in the center of it with a mouth slightly below it and eyes on both sides of the nose set just slightly above the noeses center. The head also has ears on both sides of it.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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11eb01 No.546

>>543

oh ok, most of my knowledge about them is from books really.

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11eb01 No.548

>>544

I will see what I can add about them tomorrow, gotta sleep now.

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eb9999 No.552

>>537

>2nd pic

was it a fire elemental used in smoking weed?

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bce842 No.2177

It's taken a long time to accept that part of who I am is a traveller. Many strangers told me I was.

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327f56 No.2192

This is kind of pointless since any entity that can be conceptualized exists somewhere in Creation. Summoning them is basically causing their universe to intersect with yours.

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673ce2 No.2 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Talk about your practice and related topics in a relaxed manner!

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5b3415 No.2087

>>2081

>Not likely

Environmental factors can be overcome with actually having a functional brain.

>There are studies out there that show that IQ expression is mediated by life history speed (r/k). People with high k who have higher IQ

>There is no relationship between k and IQ

Higher IQ is more likely to come up within a K-selected society, than an r-selected society. I was just looking at what populations are have the highest IQ and what their life history strategy is like.

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5b3415 No.2088

>>2086

Even when you're finished with Falun Dafa (I've completed it twice, Falun Dafa as expressed by the exercises has it's roots within the 0D. As Li Hongzhi says it, Truthfulness, Compassion, and Forbearance are expressions of this void, this substance that is by nature not a substance. Although I disagree with it not being a substance, it's the same as anything else that's mentally viewable.)

Since cultivation is very complicated his teachings and the energy he emits works on more than just his system. It's very complex.

>>2081

I personally don't see how humans could survive using a tournament style reproductive strategy. I could see them surviving through the typical K-selected route of having literal tournaments, that are made sure of not being (too) deadly, and women selecting men based off of how they fare against others. Europeans having bodies more suited for wrestling being one reason why I believe this. But outside of this, I don't think any human population can survive through that kind of polygamy. Any group of omegas can kill an alpha in his sleep.

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5b3415 No.2090

>>2082

>it's the reason you can't understand what I'm saying or see what I'm trying to show you

Heh.

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2f5bea No.2104

>>2087

>Higher IQ is more likely to come up within a K-selected society, than an r-selected society.

No, if this were the case then k would correlate with IQ in some way. There are things outside of advanced society that use IQ and cause selection for it. Why would the trait exist to be selected for if longer life history speeds were a requirement for it to be useful ? If you use brain volume as a proxy for IQ, we lost IQ points when we started farming. It went back up slightly with advanced society creating a selection environment that favored it. But going off of skull records, it has never gone back up to the level it was before agriculture.

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5b3415 No.2105

>>2104

Jump to 1:05:23

https://www.bitchute.com/video/rk62G8Ip3myD/

Find a relation between rats, (the more intelligent) birds, primates, whales, humans (primates), octopus (or any other of those squishy abominations), well any intelligent animal.

There has to be an association with r/K selection and IQ. If there no correlation within race, or is there no correlation between races? That's important.

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597fe9 No.697 [Open thread]

Any faggot in here who can't convince himself to believe in any of those paranormal schizo shit but want some form of spirituality to cope?

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f279b7 No.1500

>>1458

Not that guy, but it's easy enough:

I learned to accept any random viewpoint as reality for a time, then proceeded to start practicing. After about 6 months of basic daily practice (Meditation 5-30 minutes, some casting a circle/separation of space ritual like the LBRP), some energy raising ritual (like the Middle Pillar), some energy rotation, one divination ritual and recording everything), I started getting results and when results happen regularly enough, at some point coincidence stops being a sufficient explanation.

Hermeticism at least doesn't want you to believe in some random doctrine without experiencing it yourself. While suspension of disbelief as long as disbelief exists is a vital necessity for practice, it is not meant as a permanent state of being. Personal experience of phenomena isn't optional in any serious mystery, that is only the case in the religious part intended for the masses.

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ed95f7 No.1537

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>>697

Yes and so because I want to belong to something obviously. Secondly I want to believe humans can overcome themselves no matter what situation they're in, they can better and become a stronger form of themselves. Take for example the times where humans lifted up cars to save their loved ones.

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f00ba0 No.1945

>>697

i believe in it but i am scared i will go to hell for participating in it. it feels so right but i feel so scared.

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68a18b No.1952

>>1500

Based and greenpilled.

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4ebcce No.1988

>>697

Brother you are doing it the wrong way. There are no absolute truth for you to find. Every way is right as long as it's your way. You should read and experience things in order to find your own truth. There are many way to do "magic" and the main fuel is your own will. Without will there is no magic. So you can't just pick a doctrine randomly. You should belive that is the truth and that's why I'm saying that you need to experience things. Let me alaborate this for you. If I tell you that drinking will not help you with energy or magic, that you have to drop every desire in order to be more powerful will you believe me? Probably, cuz those act are painted as "sin". But in reality if you like to drink (non in a toxic way) and you stop in order to have more energy you are 90% going to fail. Because you will still like it and suppressing you desire is frustrating. You would start thinking that is stupid and that you will feel better if you drink, cuz you onestly like. You find drinking relaxing and joyful, so why would it be an obstacle? And that's actually a good point. And that point will be strong in you, so strong that it will make you have poor results. That's why you will perform better by just doing what you like in a non toxic way. Now this is a straight exemple to make you understand how you should approach things. I don't know if drinking is good or not and I onestly don't care, but I can tell you that if you are in peace you would perform way better. Is all about working on your beliefs. Let me explain this too. If you are drinking and you like it but every time you do that you double question your self about it, is probably not good for you. So let's say that you want to lose that desire for a drink of yours, you can actually do that. And meditation will help you. This way you will perform better, cuz you will overcomed the thing that was pestering you. But once again, there is no absolute truth, you just have to be good with your self. If there is something that you don't like you should work around it in order to be on peace. Remember that all roads bring to Rome. So there are infinite way to do magic. Some of theme are hidden, some of theme need to be created. So go out there and don't question your self to much, follow your instinct.

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08efcf No.533 [Open thread]

Starting out some novices may find it easier to channel their spirit companions than to communicate directly through the astral. This thread is for the discussion of exercises that improve one's ability to channel spirits.

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f5eeba No.662

Does anyone know any lower effort methods of communication? I have done auto writing before but this method seems to be hard on the spirit. While telepathy would be preferred I am simply not at the skill level yet where this is viable and need a method of communicating that will allow me to speak directly with them to help speed my growth.

One method I have seen around is using a pendilum but I know literally nothing about this but it seems like what I might be looking for.

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c1a805 No.1847

Bump because I want a greater variety of threads on this board, hopefully this gets more responses/attention. It's a good topic.

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2186ac No.1848

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>>1847

Problem is, this topic is outside the frame of reference for most practitioners here. Most active posters here are pretty advanced, and any channeling method would be wasted effort for them, when they can perceive and communicate with entities directly. Instead of bumping these misguided filler topic threads that don't really fit in with the scope of the board, try to find a subject that's both of a more advanced or obscure nature, and hasn't/isn't being covered in other threads. Tbh most of the advanced concepts here are going to sound like the elder tongue to initiates, the general thread alone has covered a few threads' worth of subjects over the past few days.

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0db316 No.1859

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>>1848

>>1847

There is one use in this, which is practicing to receive messages word for word fluently when talking to another person. As in someone wants to talk to say Athena and you call her up and let her possess you to speak. You can't give up control completely but must allow her to speak using your mouth and your language and available concepts within your context. This may take some practice as it's a bit like real time interpreting between two languages.

Once you get the hang of it, there's not much more to say about this topic.

Channellers are looked down on for a reason, any new ager on drugs can open up to external beings and let them speak, but who are they letting in? Make a distinction here and don't do what they do, you have to maintain control.

This stuff is better suited for discord voice chats and those aiming to be e-celeb wizards. Most participants on sunflower won't be using this more than the occasional sentence quoted for clarity on some difficult topics.

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94123e No.1667 [Open thread]

To achieve the focus and self control needed for esoteric practices, it is also necessary to exercise physically!

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94123e No.1674

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42f240 No.1680

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I only have interest in the scientific part of training. But the realization that knowing every way in which to train isn't the same as knowing how to train is important, sometimes things that should happen don't happen. Adjust to how your body responds. I develop the fastest when I train everyday, but people don't suggest to do that.

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6cf048 No.1478 [Open thread]

Quick disclaimer: In all my years of browsing imageboards, this is the first time I've ever actually created a thread. Though this is technically related to lucid dreaming, it seems in-depth and different enough to warrant its own thread. My apologies if this is not the case.

I've had this idea for awhile, and now that /fringe/ appears to be back, after all, I was wondering what fellow anons thought about it:

>Use lucid dreaming to create incrementally more-and-more vivid scenarios, always populating the same "place" with increasing levels of detail and sophistication

In other words, create a memory palace, but instead of just using it to remember things, create your own ideal paradise.

>Ceaselessly return there every time you lucid dream, ultimately making it so real you can taste, smell, see, feel, and hear things semi-emergently

In other words, use lucid dreaming to create the basic laws of your universe, and ultimately said universe will act autonomously, though always in accordance with your Will.

>In so doing, all others whom you create to populate your realm will essentially be highly-sophisticated tulpas, yet they cannot enter into the material plane, and do not communicate with you outside of your lucid dreams

This makes sense because they only came into being by means of your dreams, and were consciously willed into existence by this very method. In other words, they exist in a part of your subconscious, but only really actualize in your particular corner of the astral realm. They cannot penetrate into this plane. Or can they?

>Eventually, this realm will become so sophisticated that, upon death, your soul will be able to transmigrate there for the rest of time.

In other words, you can sort of create a self-indulgent form of Pure Land, a pocket universe which becomes immortal and everlasting through sheer force of Will. This makes sense due to the immortality of one's mind; if one can indeed imprint one's will upon the astral realm, Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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9de5c8 No.1541

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This settles it

>>>/fringe/

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502db3 No.1547

>>1541

wooooooooo boi this is where the fun begins. we're gonna reach levels of imageboard occultism never before thought possible.

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006b7e No.1570

>>1521

>Basically everything that has/will/could ever be exists as an unactuated potential of the vacuum state, and the act of you 'creating' them is actually just the universal cosmic mind bringing them into the present reality from their hypostatic state.

So, in other words, since the mind of the All contains everything conceivable, therefore the set of circumstances and variables which would constitute one's hypothetical paradise already exist as an aggregate, and it depends on the practitioner's will to bring about its actual existence? But does that mean the practitioner's will basically can serve as a conduit between their own intellect and the mind of the All?

>We should heed his words, >>1488 anon is clearly a powerful magician, just look at that wonderful get.

I noticed those digits, myself. Wonderful, indeed.

>>1541

Excellent.

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502db3 No.1571

>>1570

>the practitioner's will can serve as a conduit between intellect and All

Yes, exactly. More specifically, the practitioner's will is the mind of the All, whether they realize it or not. This is why there's a distinction between the will of Satan, Man, and God. They're all degrees of alignment with the universal Will, which is your own Will unrealized at the present moment.

It's less that your will brings about its existence, and more that at the moment you actuate it into reality, it retroactively becomes a pre-eminent element of Creation, and part of God's plan, which is your own. Basically, enforced fantasy is authoritative reality, past and future.

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39c9a0 No.1573

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>>1541

Based. Now I can unsubscribe from this subreddit!

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