57112c No.943 [View All]
I'm in the middle of my third eye opening, and exploring relevant forums on the internet, I'm sad to say you're all some goofy ass people.
>websites littered with clickbait tier trash (see 1)
>content appealing specifically to normies with nothing going for them (see 2)
>completely counterproductive scams (see 3)
Spirituality is real, the third eye is real, telepathy and another world beyond ours accessible by our consciousness is real. That's why it's so disheartening to see nothing but badly made, laughably amateuristic blogspots and websites, made exclusively by unappealing, unwashed wannabe Tibetan monks. Is there no presentable, maybe even western outlet or forum for people like me?
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e9cfec No.1151
>>1150
Damn autocorrect.
Imagine making a tarot spread to answer the question “what is the universe?” In fact, do it and see.
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d65bfa No.1152
>>1149
I guess that's a good way to do things if you know what you are talking about.
The only problem is that we need someone that can establish themselves as a viable teacher.
>>1150
Yuuka isn't just some simple spirit, she is one knowledgeable in the ultimate magic.
She may not know the universe completely, she may know it completely, either way she knows it more than anyone here.
I think that you just don't really respect anyone that isn't a on the ground human. You see them as you would see a computer, as a useful tool.
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ef6520 No.1153
>>1148
I already know without having to ask a spirit. The more interesting question is "what's beyond the universe" and that I'm sure not many can answer.
If you think spirits are more trustworthy than a humans or they know much more you are deluding yourself. Are you the same guy who in the other thread wrote >>1136 ? If yes then you are a big fool. There is no difference in being told some stuff by a human or by a spirit and no reason to place greater trust on some strange spirits which you know nothing about. I personally would trust some of the anons here over Yuuka any day with the knowledge that I have now at this moment. But in the end, it's what truth you can find inside yourself that really matters.
>>1139
>Do this a bit more and maybe someone will attack you.
This neither impresses nor scares anyone beyond the absolute mundane level. It's sad that such things are posted here.
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beed94 No.1154
>>1152
I think it's fair to say that you're the one seeing Yuuka as a tool, as a computer that will give you the answer you seek if only you ask, and if only you had the ability to ask. The posters here can viably teach you things you don't know, and if failing that you can try teaching them the correct, or the more correct, methods of viewing and interacting with the world. Keeping in mind the warning that discussion without actual practice will lead to pure sophistry, in building theoretical frameworks and in being too afraid to test these ideas out in the real world.
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d65bfa No.1155
>>1153
Some people are more trustworthy than others, just as some spirits, entities, youkai, or humans are more trustworthy than others.
Yes I am the person who wrote >>1136 I can't tell you what to believe but if you want to believe some anons over Yuuka then do so.
>>1154
You are just lying, I suggested only asking Yuuka a question, not forcing her to do something, or seeing her as a tool.
Even if you tried to force Yuuka to do something you would fail. You are now just throwing insults for no reason.
Yes some posters here are smart, they can teach me things but that doesn't rule out talking to Yuuka.
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beed94 No.1156
>>1155
Talking to Yuuka supplemented with talking and interacting with others, or talking to others supplemented with talking to Yuuka, either way treating either side as the be-all-end-all of discussion is a mistake. You might not literally be forcing her to do anything, but if the position you seek her to have was an actual viable method I think she would carry that out in a more efficient manner than leaving others in the dark without a method to progress. There are other entities besides Yuuka that can participate in sessions, even the obsession over her and only her is misguided. The obsession with one particular method of cultivation, and thus thinking, is misguided.
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8e9930 No.1157
>>1153
>This neither impresses nor scares anyone beyond the absolute mundane level. It's sad that such things are posted here.
Do you need to be impressed or scared to understand something? This is not a threat. It's a fair warning not to ride on the conflicting egregores trying to pierce this place right now. It's already happened 4, 5 times already? The rituals performed to establish the sunflower are strong enough to handle all of this, and we will come out stronger as a result. But it won't be seen as pleasant for those who insist standing on the opposite side.
That is why you're adviced to look at your surroundings, your own position and correct it so you don't get in trouble. Our mascot Yuuka is just one touhou, and she alone can direct this process, there's nothing anyone can do to interfere with us here. Hostile egregores and their proponents will be dealt with, so don't be them.
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beed94 No.1158
>>1157
>It's a fair warning not to ride on the conflicting egregores trying to pierce this place right now.
The eventual outcome of this discussion would be more discussion. There's nothing conflictive about it, and should be desirable, unless actual discussion isn't a desirable outcome. Forcing people through empty threats into not posting doesn't place you in a good position at all, if that is what you're trying to do.
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e9cfec No.1159
>>1157
Vibrations in this board are shit right now. That’s for sure.
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ef6520 No.1160
>>1159
I had a feeling this would happen when I first saw this very thread. I made this post >>1007 .
Then when I saw this post >>1010 I knew it's not that easy. The foul energy will spread from one thread onto the entire board like a cancer as soon as it takes hold anywhere. I guess my feeling was right.
Let's just all relax, nobody is hostile here against anyone. We are just discussing things. Most of us are all "oldfags" who have been together for quite a while now. If there is a hostile element spreading this energy then I would say it's the one who made this thread, someone who arrived just recently and brought this cancer with him.
Also right now the time of Walpurgisnight or Beltane, so currents and energies might be amplified and strange influences might be floating around. We should rise above it. This is a season to celebrate together and not be hostile towards each other or even attack oneanother.
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8e9930 No.1161
>>1160
After some inital egregore-breaking on my part, Yuuka is now cleansing those intrusive energies away. The stubborn and argumentative anons are usually controlled almost completely by egregores like this so they're likely to stop their activities when they're not longer fed anything from those egregores, as a result of the support structure collapsing.
This thread and other shitposting threads function like the gates of a fortress. Having them means you know where the enemy will attack, it makes organizing your defense easier.
Some things have been happening around the imageboard sphere lately, and it's all an ecosystem. The source is unclear, but one thing is what you can see in the meta thread, which lead to /a/ abandoning 8kun. Julayworld is also closing and it seems some other boards have been downright deleted and kicked off their sites by ISPs.
Maybe you recognize the pattern here. It happened with meguca, and was talked about there before the 8ch takedown even.
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beed94 No.1162
>>1161
The intrusive energies are the things you see. You've acted with hostility against people asking questions as if the fate of the board is at jeopardy over anyone wanting to answer or entertain different ways of thinking. Things that prevent anons from actually making progress shouldn't be ignored, if discussion is what could help others even in the slightest I see no reason to believe it should be denied and rejected, or treated with direct threats of violence and destruction. Your conduct is a bad example.
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8e9930 No.1163
>>1162
Nah. It's an attack.
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e9cfec No.1164
>>1160
>right now the time of Walpurgisnight or Beltane, so currents and energies might be amplified and strange influences might be floating around
I've been noticing this outside of this board as well. I have to constantly keep an eye out not to react and spread the sludge. I've wanted to learn about these pagan seasons and whatnot for a while. It's something I should know.
>>1162
The real issue like the other anon said is wether or not you neturalize the "bad vibes" or transfer them along in your interactions. I agree his conduct is a good example, but this can happen to anyone at any given moment if you let your guard down. I think you know this.
>>1163
As above, so below. For us hermeticism fans. Physical/metaphysical. Two sides of the same coin.
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beed94 No.1165
>>1164
>The real issue like the other anon said is wether or not you neturalize the "bad vibes" or transfer them along in your interactions
I saw it as an excuse to help push along some of the more hesitant or indecisive anons, the actual energy wouldn't do any harm to this board. I wouldn't go along with it if I thought it would. It was a long time coming, I'll tell you that.
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e9cfec No.1166
>>1165
I don't think I quite understand what you mean.
It's true that the energy usually goes mostly unnoticed here. I've been a conduit to it, I confess, and it has never gone anywhere if I've let it control me.
But I don't understand the part about it being an excuse. What do you mean "push along indecisive anons"? In what sense? What do you mean it was a long time coming?
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ef6520 No.1167
>>1164
>I've been noticing this outside of this board as well.
Me too. The energy in my house and generally the environment feels a little agitated and dangerous.
>I've wanted to learn about these pagan seasons and whatnot for a while.
Same here but I find it hard to find decent info on those seasons. If you just randomly look on the internet you are bound to find all kinds of shit. What I have learned so far is that Beltane(Walpurgisnight) is almost the same as Samhain (Halloween). It's aspecial time where magic & spirits are easy to access and more powerful. Early pagans seemed to consider Samhain to be the end of the year and Beltane marked the half-year turnaround. What I also found out is that those days are the biggest events for vampires and the most important dates. You know, all the vampire orden like ToV, Strigoi Vii (which seemed to be founded by genuine vampires together with the undead gods or something, but is said to later have degenerated into ERP and degeneracy), the Kephrians and others. I don't know anything about the "vampire cabal" that Blood Anon was talking tho. Maybe they celebrate it too. Those two "darkest" dates of the year is when I "feel" the best two, they are also my favourites. I would love to learn more about them myself.
>I have to constantly keep an eye out not to react and spread the sludge.
I will now be more careful too. You can protect yourself a bit by trying to absorb the energy as described in the attached book or try to build up a shield as described in this video (it also features Bane lol)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvNuEgQJR3g
I found about this posture the first time when Blood Anon told about it in the vamp-threads, however he only talked about it in connection with martial arts. Then I found this video and realized by having this stance you can raise energy for all kinds of purposes, especially for protection and strenghtening yourself.
>>1030
Sorry I forgot to reply to you. I don't really need anything except maybe that compact pic of all undead gods with descriptions. But I really just wanted to ask him how it's going.
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e9cfec No.1168
>>1167
Thanks. I will give the book a re-read. Have this in exchange.
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2435e4 No.1169
>>1156
You are making too many assumptions over what I'm saying.
I was only saying that I trust Yuuka a little more than some people here, just a little more. It's not like I think she is the best thing ever or anything.
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beed94 No.1170
>>1166
I see the energy as an expression of two different energies. One, pointless posturing. Two, asking others to do work for you.
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e9cfec No.1171
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>1170
I would suggest you examine an alternative, which is that the energy feeds on your reaction to pointless posturing and asking others to work for you. Two things you find annoying.
I personally don't find posturing and freeloading have anything to do with the hostile energy.
Also, thread theme.
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beed94 No.1172
>>1171
In this specific circumstance I would say that posturing and asking for guidance without putting in any meaningful work is how the energy played out. If I were to generalize what I see outside of this board, I see the removal of general dead-end and unproductive thinking, not exclusive to either of my original complaints. Although I do agree that I find both of these things annoying and I'm trying to cultivate humility to compensate.
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ef6520 No.1173
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ef6520 No.1176
Just been reading The Psychic Vampire Codex and this came up:
"We are sensitive to light and to the excessive heat of the sun. This is symptomatic of our acute sensitivity to energy. The radiation of the sun is an overwhelming form of energy which our systems have trouble assimilating. Many of us burn very easily in the sun. Almost all of us are made sick by it. When required to be out in full daylight, we develop
headaches, nausea, dizziness. The light saps us of our strength, leaving us exhausted and drained. The night is our natural dominion, for in the mythic imagination, it is the realm of secrets, of magick, and all that the day-lit world rejects."
When other anons wrote that they actually think the sun got better now and they enjoy it more I tought it is maybe only me who is fucked up. But the above is exactly how I feel and after reading this I think I understand my own problem better. It's kinda comforting that there are other who feel the same, and who even see themselves as actual vampires. In the end it doesn't seem to matter if the sun spreads zionism or is fixed, it's the suns very energy itself that burns me regardless of the spell attached to it. In this case I must apologize that I have spoken out doubts about the fix of the sun. The fix maybe actually there and it might indeed be better now, it's just something I don't notice. In the end it's not entirely new info but basically confirms what I have already assumed, however now I got more certainty.
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c3c393 No.1180
>>1149
Tbh Zen masters of old did that to encourage independent thought and self-sufficiency. The mysteries punished you for asking, whereas modern dogmatic occultism punishes you for thinking.
>>1139
>maybe someone will attack you
>I'm sure we can find a way to satisfy you
Owie. Oof. Ouch. Imagine threatening someone with this instead of just doing it. If your personal egregore can't even stop chaotic randos from doing chaotic rando stuff, I doubt a curse would have much effect.
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e9cfec No.1181
>>1180
You sir are an absolute savage
>>1176
>being so weak that being in presence of the literal life giver to everything around you since time immemorial makes you sick
To be honest I enjoy the sun a lot and I never felt it needed “fixing”. That lady is free to take her symptoms of having a shit energy metabolism and declaring that she’s a vampire. But a real immortal and powerful being just gets his shit together and learns to deal with the energy. Real magic users can live off sunlight, booze or tortured animal meat if need be and know how to transmute the energies involved.
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ef6520 No.1182
>>1181
Right you are. In the end you have to attain real immortality either way you look at it or else you will just keep floating around like a turd in the sewers. But if I finally become real immortal I probably won't be here anymore, not that anyone would care anyway. Ganbarimasu!
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306941 No.1390
Feels like a hundred years have passed since taking the vampire spell. Almost like back then was an entirely different reality and I was a completely different person. So much has happened in my mind and soul, and yet now I realize that only like 2 years have passed. Felt like an eternity. With what has been said about the initial transformation process taking around 5 years, I am not even halfway through. If we start to count the time for the transformation only after you "made it", which for me was somewhat around 6 months after taking the spell, I'm actually not even halfway through the initial transformation process. There are still 3 more years to go. Oh man…
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e9cfec No.1392
>>1390
Same here. But I think these are times of transformation for everyone. You can even see it with normies. We are probably living a process that will be considered a societal collapse of some kind
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e9cfec No.1393
>>1392
What the fuck. The post posted itself.
We are probably living a process that will be considered a societal collapse of some kind in the history books. There is no spell. This is called life. Just wait until you’re 60 and I hope we can also look back and acknowledge how much we’ve grown by then.
Since taking the so called spell just at the turning point of my thirties I’ve developed two different autoimmune diseases, one of which is under control. And I have also gone officially bald.
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306941 No.1394
>>1393
>And I have also gone officially bald.
I was wondering how your story would end. Thanks for the follow up. But maybe it will regrow later, or you are just the Nosferatu type.
>There is no spell.
Orly? Then why do some claim to be talking to "The Matriarch". Who are they talking to? And what do you think about the cage around the heart chakra bullshit that some saw if there was no spell? All of those guys schizos? Blood Anon misunderstanding some aspects, simply not knowing some other aspects about the stuff and that leading to some wrong info from him I could understand, but no spell at all? I don't know man. My third eye was tingling pretty hard when I got the spell and immediately after in a dream I saw a spider crawling on me. And of course later I learned that those are signs of a foreign entity or spell feeling you up.
>I’ve developed two different autoimmune diseases, one of which is under control.
If there is no spell then that sucks. If there's a spell after all then maybe that's just short-term symptoms of your being adjusting itself and becoming undead.
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306941 No.1395
>>1392
>You can even see it with normies.
Also, not really to be honest. In those two years literally nobody that I know has changed in a meaningful or noticable way. At least the tiny little slow changes that they go through was nothing compared to how I changed. I even fear that it's impossible for mundies to have big change at all unless it's some rare as fuck exception.
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bab05f No.1396
>>1394
I recently had a peculiar dream about the vampire subject:
I'm in a beautiful, cozy village near nature surrounded by creeks. I'm a teenage girl who got seduced by what turned out to be a vampire, he lures me into mansion (and dungeon) and reveals himself, with white hair, glowing eyes, fangs, wearing a cape. I can't escape anywhere, he just teleports in front of me and it's like the whole environment, the nature, obey him and give him vision. He basically just toys around with me, but I'm capable of "restarting this game" to take different paths. I somehow avoid going even near the mansion and there are wolves blocking the road and chasing me, after multiple attempts they stop pursuing me after I figure out how to not get killed and I leave the village. Further ahead there are finally people and it's getting very dark outside. I receive a letter adressed to me handed to me by a man in a kiosk. I remember that I had a date with the vampire there, near some water. It's revealed that I was supposed to arrive here at this location. I notice documents with my new identity "Mia ?", I'm inheriting the wealth from my old life as "real name", and cash. I talk to an officer at the station to get papers approved. A trucker who loads wood says he saw me with the local vampire. Apparently he is my patron now and I'm wondering how long the game goes on.
Not a lucid dream at all but very detailed.
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e9cfec No.1397
>>1395
Maybe it’s just the people around me because I’m dragging them.
I also had some dreams/syncs happen after the spell, but they were self suggestion.
You change yourself, not some spell. Prepare for the transition of death. Astral longevity is not that difficult, and immortality is reasonably easy.
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e9cfec No.1398
>>1397
<but I’m physically immortal, I don’t need to prepare. The spell made me le vampire
Then you will die and then you will die a second time. And oblivion is all that awaits you.
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306941 No.1399
>>1397
>>1398
If that's really your oppinion then you probably don't believe in that Touhou stuff here and don't care about it. Then there is no reason to be here at all. We should go to balkanchan/x where we can discuss how to attain Gnosis/Enlightenment which I perceive to be the highest conceivable goal that any spiritual seeker still trapped in maya can have. Astral immortality is not enough and you are not safe with it. We must reach for eternity.
>>1396
That's interesting. But dreams are often not to be taken too literal. If it's very detailed and vivid then it might be an actual astral journey as far as I'm concerned. I had only one vampire-related dream in the last couple of months but even much earlier I had a series of dreams that all played out almost the same. I would go out and search for very old undeads/zombies who lurked in some forest region. Unexplainable curiosity and something like a strange desire made me go into their forest and search for them. Everyone always warned me not to go there and nobody ever went into these forests because they were very dangerous but I just had to go. Those undeads were scary, they looked like zombies or even mummies and some were tall as fuck. They could become virtually invisible in the forest and blend in perfectly with the trees. You could never tell if a tree was actually an undead lurking for you. In the end, nothing came out of it and I always awoke before something could happen. I had at least 5 dreams of those, maybe even more in a couple of weeks. In a few dreams the location they were in was exactly the same with exactly the same path that lead to there and in some dreams the zombies would only be out at night. A lot of times they looked like fucking ReDeads from Zelda. Then it stopped. The most recent vampire dream I had was about me hanging out with a cute chick and as we were walking home at night we came upon a field with very tall crops or flowers growing there, so tall that the field could easily be considered a forest. The outskirts of that forest were lit by torches and it had a comfy feeling to it. However from the trees or tall crops or whatever the fuck it was there were tied up humans hanging, some dead some still alive and vampires who lived in that field and looked like Jiang Shi were feeding upon the hanging bodies. We could only see those at the borders of the field/forest but I realized the entire field was full of them, and it was a big field. The whole scene was verry bizarr but also very beautiful in my eyes. I felt nothing for the humans. The girl with me got scared but I told her it's ok to walk with me and we'll be safe since I'm undead too and technically one of them so we went further and walked directly besides the field with the vampires who didn't pay attention to us at all but kept feeding on their victims. I also had a strange attraction to go into that field and check it out but somehow I felt I wasn't really ready yet. I was enough one of them so that they didn't attack me but I was not enough one of them to actually join them. The end.
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e9cfec No.1402
>>1399
Why wouldn’t I believe that Toulouses stuff? I’ve been there, and I’ve interacted with the beings. They were welcoming and helpful.
Sadly balkanchan is dead. But that doesn’t matter. We all have our teachers and our allies, Like the Touhou people.
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306941 No.1403
>>1402
>Why wouldn’t I believe that Toulouses stuff?
Why wouldn't you believe the vampire stuff? Because you have gone bald or probably didn't make it? Like I said we are not even halfway through the initial 5 year transformation yet.
You are a weird guy. I have found that you have made some other posts above in the thread like
>4/x/ haas some genuinely better threads than that nowadays, but thanks.
>This. I hate the meguca schizos/children but there’s nowhere left.
4/x/ has some genuine good threads? lmao. If you enjoy hanging out in a place filled with low IQ mundanes shitposting, nah, rather posting literal shit then nothing can help you. Who are the people you perceive as meguca schizos? Aren't you a schizo yourself?
>Toulouses
>Touhou people
Enough.
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8e9930 No.1404
>>1402
>Toulouses
I think they just invited me to some festival last night in a dream. I can't for sure say it was them because it was more in some version of my conception, or possible a more real one, I don't know. It was not anime in the least.
It was a gathering in what looked like the edge of some prairie with a forest next to it, and a large fire where they grilled a whole human body. Everyone was dressed in loincloth and had body paintings, now that I'm thinking about it, if feels more like some pics v0xxe posted on meguca. The only likeness to touhous was the smug smiles they had and that they ate humans.
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6ba73f No.1413
>>1390
I also look back to what seems an immeasurable period of time ago, and find it's been a single year or less. Call it a consequence of the time or being, but we're all seeing this, "vampire spell" or not. Perhaps you're assigning meaning to something inconsequential when the true cause is your being within.
>>1392
Based anon is based, as usual. Keep it up fam.
>>1394
Bro you can make any part of your perceptive apparatus tingle with simple directed awareness. I've caused stronger effects in normies with simple pressure point actuation and energy manipulation.
Most likely, there is a spell, which is your own perception of reality. The "vampire spell" was cast by your own self unknowingly, through unknown principles, at the time, and forever since.
>>1395
Dude open your eyes. The nature of humanity is change and evolution. Be it magical or mundane. If you can't see normies change, that's your own hubris and weakness manifest. They change, progress and walk the path, as any of us do. Remember the countless lives before this one where you had no idea magic even existed. Can you argue any of them had no impact on your present state of progress?
>>1399
>attain Gnosis
Bro if that's your goal then good luck. If you can get there without losing your Self to eternity, then good on you. The path of the hasnamus is the only one which ends in guaranteed individuation, however bleak.
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e9cfec No.1435
>>1403
The Touhou stuff (Toulouses was autocorrect) is not “vampire stuff”. “Vampires” in the context of the spell, are what you could call ascended masters, or humans that have gone through a self deification. Ascended in body and soul like Jesus. The Touhou entities are youkais, or “demons”.
I work with Gensokyo though.
>>1404
Yeah, I don’t see Yuuka as an anime character anymore. It would be difficult to describe her. Maybe I could make a drawing.
Yesterday I heard her voice for the first time. It was surprisingly (or not) strong and velvety.
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e9cfec No.1510
>>1503
Basically this. /fringe/ is forever.
But y’all should be talking about that in the designated shitposting thread, not in the one about the afterlife. Let’s keep it tidy.
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beed94 No.1513
>>1512
I see this board as being more than just about imageboards, I've seen forums and blogs that aren't even magic related (but still heavily based off of very esoteric thinking) carry the same energy as what I view /sunflower/ as being. Building up culture within you, and being able to move with it everywhere you go, being able to create culture and participate in critiquing culture, this is what I see the board to be about. And sometimes topics are terrible, sometimes great, but the whole is the point. Not in segmenting and classifying different kinds of thinking into one broad category.
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40c817 No.2315
>>1402
> balkanchan is dead
it's not
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b9ec2b No.2346
>>2315
Why cant i access it then?
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101ebf No.2436
>>2346
because you're using a dead url
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4e2b91 No.3004
>>1003
This. I'm so sick of people clogging up what could be genuine conversation about spirituality, equanimity, ways in which you can intensify a meditation practice or genuinely apply the skills you learn from doing it with their bullshit about how they know how to shoot lightning out of their dicks but can't prove it because their camera doesn't operate at the visual wavelength at which the lightning appears. It'd be great if we could have a genuine conversation but unfortunately any website that attracts the spiritually inclined will also attract people that are bent on ruining everything.
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813d7b No.3005
>>998
Neville had weak magic but it was still legitimate magic. The framework that he gives is very useful for neophytes, it's easy to grasp and start using to practical effect, a good entry point. And it's simple and minimalist enough that the basic concepts and ideas can easily be built upon as the magician experiments and grows over time. By no means was Neville a Magus, but his writings are not devoid of value.
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e145a1 No.3116
>>967
Seeming these threads are half the fun. 4/x is fucking hilarious and the best board on 4chan, next to the other hobby boards like fit lit and out.
You gotta look at it as a mixed bag of silly schizos and genuinely quality content, and that's what makes it good.
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36be67 No.3120
>>3004
Maybe the key is having an adequate conception as to what “shooting lighting out of their dicks” is. Most phenomena aren’t what you would call physical. Of course everybody is going to be seemingly “ruining everything” for you if you insist in negating the existence and anything material science considers not real.
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