/sunflower/ - Sunflower

You're on it dude, or it was before the shooting. /occult/ was popping with knowledge and legitimate discussion. If you find somewhere you like post it in this thread so we can rebuild and regroup.

>>944

This. I hate the meguca schizos/children but there’s nowhere left.

It’s solitary time.

>>944

>>949

how about you go here then https://balkanchan.ga/x/

>>953

4/x/ haas some genuinely better threads than that nowadays, but thanks.

>>955

I recommended balkanchan for you to regroup and rebuild. Of course it hasn't any threads yet but you should be able to give it life through your own contribution.

>4/x/ haas some genuinely better threads

Lmao. Just go there then and have fun with your nobody general threads then.

>>966

> have fun with your nobody general threads

I was surprised by the amount of knowledgeable people in the manifestation threads (law of attraction generals as they call them). And of course there's /omg/, which is a concentrate of the muh western magicks stuck up types.

Then every now and then you see threads about astral projection or meditation and you see people who actually know their shit. There is a lot of noise, too, because the site has a ton of users. But really, I don't think /fringe/ is needed anymore.

There is a lot of people around who are in different stages of awakening. /fringe/ was an advance party so that those of us who awakened in it could now guide others and play a different part in the process.

>>970

>I was surprised by the amount of knowledgeable people in the manifestation threads

Speaking of which, do you have an opinion on Neville Goddard? On one level it seems like generic bluepilled loa stuff practiced by new agers, on another level it doesn’t

>>989

What do you consider bluepilled about it?

>>990

I’m not sure if my suspicion comes from anything else other than thinking Neville himself wasn’t a master of it, alongside the type of people I’ve normally seen talk about it. It feels odd to trust people who talk about being able to manifest things while they have health problems, financial issues, purely material interests, and so forth. I’ve yet to find someone who talks about manifestation whose words actually match their reality. Like everyone I’ve met who spoke about the law had deluded themselves into acting totally confident and all knowing about it, but years later, they still had the same life but worse, with greater financial issues, failing relationships, etc. One of the financial success stories Neville cited in his books came from someone who later sold meth and got arrested for it. Basically I’ve never seen anyone who seemed to actually apply it correctly beyond small things. Maybe the small things are permitted to be changed whereas some other things are either meant to be changed with time or unchanged, unless someone manages to change fate.

My guess is the law is just a small part of the picture and anybody who recognizes that becomes somewhat detached and uninterested in it. It seems like it’s implied in places people normally don’t recognize it, like religious texts, both modern and ancient, philosophy, and art, etc. But in those places it’s never treated as the “take control of your life and become God” new age ideology or whatever. It’s presented more as explanation for why some of your life has turned out the way it has and to give people a better understanding of truth.

To clarify, I’ve applied it and I’ve seen it works. It’s just that it doesn’t seem to reward the reasons nearly all people become interested in it for, and there don’t seem to be many people who respect it properly

>>993

I personally have no interest in the law of attraction stuff or whatever manifestations mean, but I do now things on that scale are legit. I can do things like that, but it's all at a minor technical level. If you don't understand that you're working in a larger context it won't lead to much. You can say the same about sicence or chemistry and so on. Some major inventions were just someone mixing something in a lab and with no large scale manufacturing and distribution while applying the knowledge in an exact setting, it has very little value.

Everything has to fit in place or you're just the guy who invented the perfect component for a device no one will have an interest in until 100 years later. It can be a major discovery and leave very little for you right now.

>>993

Well, read Neville's books instead of wasting your time reading about the law of attraction and talking to new age people.

>>994

That's an interesting point anon, thanks for sharing. I'll think more about it

>>995

I've already read all of his books. His followers seem similar to typical loa new agers

>>989

>>993

Neville Goddard is your dime-a-dozen New Thought shitter; there were tons of guys like him in that era. There's really nothing particularly special or unique about his teachings, and I don't know why he specifically experienced a revival among the law of attraction folks.

Moreover, the proof is in the pudding. Neville himself never performed anything incredible or even above the mundane, just the typical LOA small fries nonsense - wow, your wealthy brother sent you a boat ticket to Barbados so you could spend Christmas with your family? Truly an astounding feat of thaumaturgy. His followers are even more useless in that regard.

All that stuff is just a waste of time.

>>996

Then stop wasting your time reading about his followers and move on.

>>998

>All that stuff is just a waste of time

Is it though? You can literally close your eyes, visualize for 5 seconds and get anything you can imagine (literally). I'd hardly call it a waste of time.

You should really spend a bit more time looking into it. You might find the secret you're looking for in there.

>>999

>You can literally close your eyes, visualize for 5 seconds and get anything you can imagine (literally).

Except you can't. Feel free to prove me wrong and post a picture of your Mercedes, or mansion, or swimsuit model girlfriend? Oh, you don't have any of that? Of course, my mistake -you are beyond such mundane possessions. Feel free to post a video of you performing some miraculous feat. Such displays of power are beyond your ego? Of course, forgive me master. Honestly feel free to post any tangible proof whatsoever, but you can't because [insert bullshit reason here].

I've been hearing the same shit from LOA fags on internet forums for 15 years now. You retards will write smug essay upon smug essay about how everything is consciousness, you are god, everything is possible, you need to visualize like that, you need to wipe your ass like this, but literally nobody has anything to show for it.

>You should really spend a bit more time looking into it. You might find the secret you're looking for in there.

Oh, and that's another thing with you LOA retards, always so smug and conceited. You can't manifest a million dollars because you've ascend beyond that but you've all got egos the size of a bull's testicles; how curious.

>>1003

I remember when someone asked Goddard to turn a pencil red. He said to give him red paint and he'd do it.

I empathize with your sentiments.

It's common for "ascended masters" to boast loudly, not deliver, and yet lecture you when questioned. I've witnessed that kind of personality and saw the zealous admiration the followers have for their Gurus.

>>1003

I have never visualized for a Mercedes, a Mansion or a swimsuit model gf.

I did visualize myself into an orgy once, two high end macs (no bully pls) and several bonuses from my dream job, which I got using magic, but not visualization. I hope you don’t judge me for not sharing your desire for high maintenance desires, but those three examples you mentioned would be a nightmare to have, really. I have lived in a huge house, and even with a maid, it’s a pain to maintain. Don’t even get me started on that model girlfriend of yours lol.

I’m not a LOA fag, I’m a magician, and a very good one actually. I pursue mainly spiritual goals, but I make sure my life is a good one too.

What are you? You seem like someone who bashes any technique that could help you control your life if you mastered it because are too afraid to try and fail.

Seriously, in those 15 years you’ve wasted arguing on the Internet you could’ve acquired your Mercedes, your mansion and your swimsuit gf even with mundane means. What the hell are you doing?

Looks like this time has come again. The time a board stops being a sacret temple of learning and gets flooded with all types of subhumans. Naysayers, trolls, posers, drama queens, huge egos etc etc. I can see it starting here too. Seems like an inevitable fate. Not even sunflower is safe from the degeneration. Whenever it starts about being right and proving the other wrong or how much one has accoplished, I feel like getting the fuck out. Feels like being in kindergarden all over again.

>>1007

>>1008

This is mostly a shitposting thread, as long as it stays here it doesn't matter.

>>1005

I was going to mention that as well. If someone purports grand claims like: 'everything you can imagine is possible' I think it's reasonable to except a demonstration, certainly when all that is being asked for is a simple parlour trick -in all your godly powers it shouldn't be a problem. And Neville can't pull the 'appeal to spirituality' transcend your ego nonsense either, because his whole shtick was teaching people how to fulfil their material desires (although that's more or less what he did, which is extremely disingenuous).

All of this is par for the course for most of these so-called teachers, it just annoys me that people are willing to entertain these jabronis.

>>1006

Your problem is that you don't even know what you're saying. If you could truly 'close your eyes and visualize for 5 seconds and get anything you want' you should be able to pull a gold bar out of your ass this very second or do something nonsensical like turn into a werewolf -that is what you're claiming, even though you don't even seem to realize it. Instead of doing any of these things you retort with typical nonsense like 'I got a bonus at my job'. You people are all the same in that regard.

>You seem like someone who bashes any technique that could help you control your life if you mastered it because are too afraid to try and fail.

Again, the smug conceitedness. Not everyone that disagrees with you is some ignorant mundane failing their way through life. If you take the appropriate steps you can begin to tangibly effect the physical world (as you've experienced with your small fry nonsense like macs and orgies); I know this very well. But to sit here and condescendingly lecture people about how 'everything is possible' while you're not even close to that level of realization is absolutely ridiculous.

>>1007

Right at the top of the board it says: "The Sunflower Project aims to create an environment for esoteric study and development by gathering skillful persons, -> with no regard for ideologies or opinions <-. If this is a place where everybody is right and everything is valid and we all ERP as demigod wizards, then please forgive me because I've clearly stumbled into the wrong place.

>>1012

When I said you can get anything you want by visualizing for 5 seconds I didn't mean I could do it, or that you could (obviously). I meant the technique is unbounded in itself. Its only obstacles are put in place by us, the people practicing them.

The same can be said for conjuration, divination, or any sort of enchantment, be it visualization, volting, sympathetic magic, etc. The limitation is always an obstacle that the practitioner has in place. Always.

Your contrarian attitude is the problem. Not my problem, but yours. My posts might get aggressive at times, because I'm not in perfect control of my soul construct's conditioning, but all I'm trying to do is help you. I'm not trying to be smug or condescending in order to hurt you.

>you should be able to pull a gold bar out of your ass

I can. I would need to get one first, which I could perfectly do using magic to synchronistically bring it to me. Then I would have to shove it in my ass. Then take it out.

You make it more difficult than it really is. That's what Neville meant when he was asked to make a pencil red.

I think this discussion has run its course. Of course, you will feel inclined to insult me again, but think if we're going to get anywhere at all that way.

>>972

/fringe/ still exists on xchan.wtf/f/, but nobody posts there unfortunately. Honestly this board feels like it's basically the new /fringe/ at this point. Just wish it was a bit more active. Another post said it quite well, it's a very comfy board. Whether or not /fringe/ has run its course and is to be replaced by something new, I don't know either.

>>1027

Oh, and of course there's also a /fringe/ on endchan that is also inactive.

>>1009

I've been invested in their current when the vamp threads on meguca where up. Maybe I can help.

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>>1081

can you walk at forest at night? i do this in my city (more like shitty)

also creek > forest

>>1083

>can you walk at forest at night?

I did a couple of times. You don't see shit tho, it gets so dark that you constantly have to shine a light in front of you or else you'll be basically blind and get lost in even your most familiar places. Also I saw a shadow or ghost once after sunset that came towards me and then dissapeared right in front of me and on another occasion also after sunset I had the impression that I am watched and followed by something. So it can definetly get spooky at night. Not to mention the risk of encountering wild wolves and niggers. Also you can get sleepy at night and it get's much colder. Overall it's not exactly comfy in the forest at night. Not really a setting in which I would be able to properly meditate and relax.

>also creek > forest

Well there are some small creeks and a river in my forest so it's even better. All my fav spots have water running through them. But I would assume that a mountaintop is even better than forest and creek…however finding a decent mountain (that is also not littered with mundanes or locked away by the state) is a different problem altogether.

>>1084

It's understandable why you despise mundanes/NPCs so much, I share your sentiments, but my advice is to not let them get the better of you, since that's pretty lame. Just remember they'll continue to go nowhere, worrying about their mundane things that don't really matter. Just keep moving forward.

>>1077

>pic related

Kali Yuga has nothing to do with the goddess Kali, it's a different Kali, so the pic makes little sense.

>>1081

I feel you on this.

What do you mean with finishing your own astral place?

Do you mean creating an astral world where you can go as a type of afterlife?

>>1085

>It's understandable why you despise mundanes/NPCs so much, I share your sentiments, but my advice is to not let them get the better of you, since that's pretty lame.

Mundanes are the worst by far, but to be frank I wouldn't want the forest to be full of wizards too.

That also defeats the purpose and comfy feel of solitude.

>Do you mean creating an astral world where you can go as a type of afterlife?

Not only afterlife. You can go there in meditation and astral travel too but going there in your afterlife would be pretty sweet. You could make it your homebase. The best part of this is that you can create a little world how you want it and how you like it the most and there is a big chance that you will be undisturbed and nobody else will come as long as you won't share your place publicly. But you probably have to have some immortality standart or a certain level of advancement to be able to keep it up and exist there for a long time. I don't know how it works in detail. There is a guide on this board for it somewhere so look it up if you feel like it. I already started mine some time ago but never really went about giving it the finishing touches.

>>1081

>The sun itself is way too bright and there is something wrong about it

We've fixed the sun. The jews had placed a spell on it in the past which was the reason for the lore about the sun burning vampires. It was indeed spreading zionism, but this was taken care of during last year and the spell spread by the sun and moon system was changed into something beneficial to the sunflower project.

If you want rain, contact wind elementals. They control most weather and will change it for you if you just give them a small offering. They're not unreasonable at all and don't care much either way. A friend wanted rain in his area and following my advice drew a rain sigil on the pavement outside his house. The weather report now said rain all week for him. They'll see it if you do it outside.

>>1090

>We've fixed the sun.

Not regarding how bizarre this sounds the sun now seems anything else but fixed. Feels like it became unhealthy and not only that but fields are drying out and forests are burning.

>The jews had placed a spell on it in the past which was the reason for the lore about the sun burning vampires.

Was it burning vampires before or after the spell? Because right now after you "fixed" it it sure appears burning.

>It was indeed spreading zionism

So the sun itself was spreading zionism because of the jews, still kinda mindboggling…well after the "fix" I don't see how the world got better. But maybe it's just that too little time has passed to make out a difference.

>the spell spread by the sun and moon system was changed into something beneficial to the sunflower project.

>beneficial to the sunflower project.

Things become more and more questionable. This sounds shady as fuck.

>>1092

>This sounds shady as fuck.

>literally the sun

>shady

No.

The time passed is too hosrt for this itself to do a lot yet, however… The jew magic was limiting contact with the older gods because it was creating constant disturbance. It was upholding the jew world order in which only abrahamic faiths could function well. This is what we got rid of, replacing the core principles with something more general. One result may be that the ancient egyptian gods could get a better hold on the world, as we are seeing now with Nut acting as Corona-chan and Sekhmet, "the lady of slaughter" as Pandemic-chan.

I think it's safe to say they aren't very happy with people having disrespected them for all this time by following the jew gods.

>>1094

I realized the shady sun pun too after posting it.

Regardless I still don't understand what you meant with the lore of the sun burning vampires. The jew sun would be more vampire unfriendly because vampires as I understand it go completely against zionism and their abrahamic bullshit. That would make sense because the lore about the sun burning vampires got established while the jew sun was still active. Also I have read in the work of Robert Bruce that the sun acts like a firewall and supresses a lot of spiritual activity and magic.

Then why does it feel like it has become worse after the "fix" while it actually should have become better?

>>1095

It didn't though. Last two years before the removal of the jew magic were horrible. I almost fainted from the heat when grocery shopping and customers at work fell like bricks. We had to call an ambulance several times last summer as a result of people just collapsing from the heat. I've never experienced it this bad before.

The sun was stinging like it was really trying to kill us, so it just had to be done. It's hot but not like before, and the direction of the energy has changed.

>>1096

I remember back in 2016-2018 the sun was too unbearable. There was even a whole year without rain or at least few short rains only even during rainy season and my weather app always says it's raining when it's actually not, always cloudy or hot days.

I noticed during the 'blood moons' of 2018, the sun started gaining back more and more of its orange or reddish tinge on sunsets although it was kinda on-off some days it's white sunset/white morning and some days the sun looks a bit yellowish. Even thought it's just the Mandela Effect but damn I really miss that yellow-green glow of leaves during sunrise!

This talk of the sun is rather surprising. I remember I also used to hate sunlight but have recently grown to appreciate it more. I can actually tolerate or even enjoy being in it now. I thought it was just because I hated the sunlight for no real reason and just made myself think I hated it because I was your typical imageboard recluse, but this is pretty interesting to read here. Seems like there's a recent trend of some sort for some people.

I enjoy sun a lot now. I actually liked the extreme white sun we've had the last couple of years. It was strong energy, but I could handle it.

>>1090

Seems there's a conflicting spell network embedded into the sun meta-object now. Let's see which one wins out. I'm personally rooting for my one, though.

Instead of blocking out some gods, why not exclude all of them from the luminary system?

>>1123

>Instead of blocking out some gods, why not exclude all of them from the luminary system?

That's what the jews did, and that's what we fixed. They're probably still trying to reinstall their egregore on it but that won't work.

>>1134

>What is the point of statements like this?

I mean it literally. You are dreaming right now, but you don't realize it.

>Share the methodology of your practice please

It's pretty much the kind of exercises posted at the beginning of the thread. I also do some spirit contact, but I'm mainly into direct energy manipulation.

I was the first to respond to the person that started this derailing with this post >>1106 outside of the thread as to not pollute it, but you morons took his bait and started arguing. Don't accuse me of turning the thread into shit. It was you.

I use the word "moron" specifically, not simply to insult you, but because you are demonstrating a lack of judgement.

>>1139

>how do you even know the difference between dreaming and being awake

I'm sure you've become lucid while dreaming at least once. Do you feel that right now?

>typical of people in gnosticism and specifically those into Trismegistos

No, my ontological views are more similar to those of the Temple of the Vampire. And Tibetan paganism (pre-Buddhist). I don't really buy into the whole "reality is a prison" view of Gnosticism because I consider it a matter of perspective, and actually disempowering.

>Trismegistos

I don't understand why you say that. Hermes Trismegistus is Hermeticism, not Gnosticism.

>I am living in projection from my real body

See, my point is that your body is nothing but a thoughtform. The difference between "internal" and "external" (subjective/objective, mental/physical) is of degree, not a qualitative one. Of course I'm not saying your physical and astral bodies are identical, but they are not different classes of things, just different degrees of the same class. You know what I mean?

>If you posted something people on the board didn't like they'd curse you

>If that's what you want out of this I'm sure we can find a way to satisfy you

What a childish thing to say. If you don't enjoy the conversation and want to end it, just tell me.

>because you don't want to put in the work needed to get anywhere

>attempting to ruin others' progress

>dragging the discussion down to your nonsense level

>this is a small detail of the actual work we do in this group, things you will never know anything about if you stay in your current mindset

You sound like you're doing a good job cursing yourself anyway. Your passive aggression will eat you away, but I can't do anything to help you there.

It's funny how I can be praised in one thread and have such an absurd level of bile thrown on me on another, simply because might have said something to trigger one of your parasites. I'm not surprised, though, since this is a common thing in imageboards and in /fringe/. Even the BO has plenty of experience with this.

It's also funny how you talk to me as if I was a newcomer. I was one of the first posters here. Unless you are the BO (I sure hope not), I probably participated in the sessions before you did. Not that I share that vain elitism of yours, but please don't assume who you're talking to. We're anons for a reason.

>>1140

>I am living in projection from my real body

>See, my point is that your body is nothing but a thoughtform. The difference between "internal" and "external" (subjective/objective, mental/physical) is of degree, not a qualitative one. Of course I'm not saying your physical and astral bodies are identical, but they are not different classes of things, just different degrees of the same class. You know what I mean?

I feel like I should elaborate here. You are not projected from your body. You are tethered to it, for reasons we won't go into. But you are not of your body. It's just another energetic structure capable of supporting and focusing your awareness, just as any astral body you might use.

>>1139

You were in Meguca, right? I feel like I've argued with you before on these terms.

>>1141

>>1140

This all sounds like you trying to be unique and intellectual or something. You're just twisting words around but saying nothing.

>>1147

>>1144

Can't you guys just go ask Yuuka.

If you truly know magic maybe she could answer your question about what the universe is.

There wouldn't be a need to argue.

>>1148

You raise a good point, but this is a trap some fall into when they discover spirits are real. Not only spirits don’t always know everything, but when they do, the problem is you understanding the answer. First of all, when you communicate with a spirit, the words or sensory data (images, sounds, smells…) are yours. If you don’t have the context to represent the spirit’s dats, you are going to have a hard time.

This not only happens with spirits. We are used to thinking everything can be explained with the right words, but the meaning we get from words is ours, we also need the right cognitive frame in order to understand another person’s message. In a way, it’s like we are prisoners or conditioned by the things we have experienced. Your personal experience determines what you can understand. You don’t need to experience everything to have a superficial understanding of something, but you need a reference frame at least.

A question like “what the universe is” has many answers. Imagine making a tarot spread to answer one question and you’ll know what I mean.

Another fancier way of answering this is

>what is the universe?

The full answer is not a sentence, but the fact of you existing. You are in the process of receiving that answer, but it’s a very long one.

>>1150

Damn autocorrect.

Imagine making a tarot spread to answer the question “what is the universe?” In fact, do it and see.

>>1148

I already know without having to ask a spirit. The more interesting question is "what's beyond the universe" and that I'm sure not many can answer.

If you think spirits are more trustworthy than a humans or they know much more you are deluding yourself. Are you the same guy who in the other thread wrote >>1136 ? If yes then you are a big fool. There is no difference in being told some stuff by a human or by a spirit and no reason to place greater trust on some strange spirits which you know nothing about. I personally would trust some of the anons here over Yuuka any day with the knowledge that I have now at this moment. But in the end, it's what truth you can find inside yourself that really matters.

>>1139

>Do this a bit more and maybe someone will attack you.

This neither impresses nor scares anyone beyond the absolute mundane level. It's sad that such things are posted here.

>>1152

I think it's fair to say that you're the one seeing Yuuka as a tool, as a computer that will give you the answer you seek if only you ask, and if only you had the ability to ask. The posters here can viably teach you things you don't know, and if failing that you can try teaching them the correct, or the more correct, methods of viewing and interacting with the world. Keeping in mind the warning that discussion without actual practice will lead to pure sophistry, in building theoretical frameworks and in being too afraid to test these ideas out in the real world.

>>1153

Some people are more trustworthy than others, just as some spirits, entities, youkai, or humans are more trustworthy than others.

Yes I am the person who wrote >>1136 I can't tell you what to believe but if you want to believe some anons over Yuuka then do so.

>>1154

You are just lying, I suggested only asking Yuuka a question, not forcing her to do something, or seeing her as a tool.

Even if you tried to force Yuuka to do something you would fail. You are now just throwing insults for no reason.

Yes some posters here are smart, they can teach me things but that doesn't rule out talking to Yuuka.

>>1155

Talking to Yuuka supplemented with talking and interacting with others, or talking to others supplemented with talking to Yuuka, either way treating either side as the be-all-end-all of discussion is a mistake. You might not literally be forcing her to do anything, but if the position you seek her to have was an actual viable method I think she would carry that out in a more efficient manner than leaving others in the dark without a method to progress. There are other entities besides Yuuka that can participate in sessions, even the obsession over her and only her is misguided. The obsession with one particular method of cultivation, and thus thinking, is misguided.

>>1157

>It's a fair warning not to ride on the conflicting egregores trying to pierce this place right now.

The eventual outcome of this discussion would be more discussion. There's nothing conflictive about it, and should be desirable, unless actual discussion isn't a desirable outcome. Forcing people through empty threats into not posting doesn't place you in a good position at all, if that is what you're trying to do.

>>1157

Vibrations in this board are shit right now. That’s for sure.

>>1159

I had a feeling this would happen when I first saw this very thread. I made this post >>1007 .

Then when I saw this post >>1010 I knew it's not that easy. The foul energy will spread from one thread onto the entire board like a cancer as soon as it takes hold anywhere. I guess my feeling was right.

Let's just all relax, nobody is hostile here against anyone. We are just discussing things. Most of us are all "oldfags" who have been together for quite a while now. If there is a hostile element spreading this energy then I would say it's the one who made this thread, someone who arrived just recently and brought this cancer with him.

Also right now the time of Walpurgisnight or Beltane, so currents and energies might be amplified and strange influences might be floating around. We should rise above it. This is a season to celebrate together and not be hostile towards each other or even attack oneanother.

>>1162

Nah. It's an attack.

>>1160

>right now the time of Walpurgisnight or Beltane, so currents and energies might be amplified and strange influences might be floating around

I've been noticing this outside of this board as well. I have to constantly keep an eye out not to react and spread the sludge. I've wanted to learn about these pagan seasons and whatnot for a while. It's something I should know.

>>1162

The real issue like the other anon said is wether or not you neturalize the "bad vibes" or transfer them along in your interactions. I agree his conduct is a good example, but this can happen to anyone at any given moment if you let your guard down. I think you know this.

>>1163

As above, so below. For us hermeticism fans. Physical/metaphysical. Two sides of the same coin.

>>1164

>The real issue like the other anon said is wether or not you neturalize the "bad vibes" or transfer them along in your interactions

I saw it as an excuse to help push along some of the more hesitant or indecisive anons, the actual energy wouldn't do any harm to this board. I wouldn't go along with it if I thought it would. It was a long time coming, I'll tell you that.

>>1165

I don't think I quite understand what you mean.

It's true that the energy usually goes mostly unnoticed here. I've been a conduit to it, I confess, and it has never gone anywhere if I've let it control me.

But I don't understand the part about it being an excuse. What do you mean "push along indecisive anons"? In what sense? What do you mean it was a long time coming?

>>1156

You are making too many assumptions over what I'm saying.

I was only saying that I trust Yuuka a little more than some people here, just a little more. It's not like I think she is the best thing ever or anything.

>>1166

I see the energy as an expression of two different energies. One, pointless posturing. Two, asking others to do work for you.

>>1170

I would suggest you examine an alternative, which is that the energy feeds on your reaction to pointless posturing and asking others to work for you. Two things you find annoying.

I personally don't find posturing and freeloading have anything to do with the hostile energy.

Also, thread theme.

>>1171

In this specific circumstance I would say that posturing and asking for guidance without putting in any meaningful work is how the energy played out. If I were to generalize what I see outside of this board, I see the removal of general dead-end and unproductive thinking, not exclusive to either of my original complaints. Although I do agree that I find both of these things annoying and I'm trying to cultivate humility to compensate.

>>1180

You sir are an absolute savage

>>1176

>being so weak that being in presence of the literal life giver to everything around you since time immemorial makes you sick

To be honest I enjoy the sun a lot and I never felt it needed “fixing”. That lady is free to take her symptoms of having a shit energy metabolism and declaring that she’s a vampire. But a real immortal and powerful being just gets his shit together and learns to deal with the energy. Real magic users can live off sunlight, booze or tortured animal meat if need be and know how to transmute the energies involved.

>>1181

Right you are. In the end you have to attain real immortality either way you look at it or else you will just keep floating around like a turd in the sewers. But if I finally become real immortal I probably won't be here anymore, not that anyone would care anyway. Ganbarimasu!

>>1390

Same here. But I think these are times of transformation for everyone. You can even see it with normies. We are probably living a process that will be considered a societal collapse of some kind

>>1392

What the fuck. The post posted itself.

We are probably living a process that will be considered a societal collapse of some kind in the history books. There is no spell. This is called life. Just wait until you’re 60 and I hope we can also look back and acknowledge how much we’ve grown by then.

Since taking the so called spell just at the turning point of my thirties I’ve developed two different autoimmune diseases, one of which is under control. And I have also gone officially bald.

>>1394

I recently had a peculiar dream about the vampire subject:

I'm in a beautiful, cozy village near nature surrounded by creeks. I'm a teenage girl who got seduced by what turned out to be a vampire, he lures me into mansion (and dungeon) and reveals himself, with white hair, glowing eyes, fangs, wearing a cape. I can't escape anywhere, he just teleports in front of me and it's like the whole environment, the nature, obey him and give him vision. He basically just toys around with me, but I'm capable of "restarting this game" to take different paths. I somehow avoid going even near the mansion and there are wolves blocking the road and chasing me, after multiple attempts they stop pursuing me after I figure out how to not get killed and I leave the village. Further ahead there are finally people and it's getting very dark outside. I receive a letter adressed to me handed to me by a man in a kiosk. I remember that I had a date with the vampire there, near some water. It's revealed that I was supposed to arrive here at this location. I notice documents with my new identity "Mia ?", I'm inheriting the wealth from my old life as "real name", and cash. I talk to an officer at the station to get papers approved. A trucker who loads wood says he saw me with the local vampire. Apparently he is my patron now and I'm wondering how long the game goes on.

Not a lucid dream at all but very detailed.

>>1395

Maybe it’s just the people around me because I’m dragging them.

I also had some dreams/syncs happen after the spell, but they were self suggestion.

You change yourself, not some spell. Prepare for the transition of death. Astral longevity is not that difficult, and immortality is reasonably easy.

>>1397

<but I’m physically immortal, I don’t need to prepare. The spell made me le vampire

Then you will die and then you will die a second time. And oblivion is all that awaits you.

>>1399

Why wouldn’t I believe that Toulouses stuff? I’ve been there, and I’ve interacted with the beings. They were welcoming and helpful.

Sadly balkanchan is dead. But that doesn’t matter. We all have our teachers and our allies, Like the Touhou people.

>>1402

>Toulouses

I think they just invited me to some festival last night in a dream. I can't for sure say it was them because it was more in some version of my conception, or possible a more real one, I don't know. It was not anime in the least.

It was a gathering in what looked like the edge of some prairie with a forest next to it, and a large fire where they grilled a whole human body. Everyone was dressed in loincloth and had body paintings, now that I'm thinking about it, if feels more like some pics v0xxe posted on meguca. The only likeness to touhous was the smug smiles they had and that they ate humans.

>>1403

The Touhou stuff (Toulouses was autocorrect) is not “vampire stuff”. “Vampires” in the context of the spell, are what you could call ascended masters, or humans that have gone through a self deification. Ascended in body and soul like Jesus. The Touhou entities are youkais, or “demons”.

I work with Gensokyo though.

>>1404

Yeah, I don’t see Yuuka as an anime character anymore. It would be difficult to describe her. Maybe I could make a drawing.

Yesterday I heard her voice for the first time. It was surprisingly (or not) strong and velvety.

>>1503

Basically this. /fringe/ is forever.

But y’all should be talking about that in the designated shitposting thread, not in the one about the afterlife. Let’s keep it tidy.

>>1402

> balkanchan is dead

it's not

>>2315

Why cant i access it then?

>>2346

because you're using a dead url

>>1003

This. I'm so sick of people clogging up what could be genuine conversation about spirituality, equanimity, ways in which you can intensify a meditation practice or genuinely apply the skills you learn from doing it with their bullshit about how they know how to shoot lightning out of their dicks but can't prove it because their camera doesn't operate at the visual wavelength at which the lightning appears. It'd be great if we could have a genuine conversation but unfortunately any website that attracts the spiritually inclined will also attract people that are bent on ruining everything.

>>998

Neville had weak magic but it was still legitimate magic. The framework that he gives is very useful for neophytes, it's easy to grasp and start using to practical effect, a good entry point. And it's simple and minimalist enough that the basic concepts and ideas can easily be built upon as the magician experiments and grows over time. By no means was Neville a Magus, but his writings are not devoid of value.

>>967

Seeming these threads are half the fun. 4/x is fucking hilarious and the best board on 4chan, next to the other hobby boards like fit lit and out.

You gotta look at it as a mixed bag of silly schizos and genuinely quality content, and that's what makes it good.

>>3004

Maybe the key is having an adequate conception as to what “shooting lighting out of their dicks” is. Most phenomena aren’t what you would call physical. Of course everybody is going to be seemingly “ruining everything” for you if you insist in negating the existence and anything material science considers not real.