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db414d No.2246

I dont know much about this world, but there is something weird about love and soulmates.

Maybe it is just a new age fantasie, but maybe someone of you know something.

soulmates exist? how it work? Its a law of attration rule?

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a8c87d No.2247

Women are evil psychic vampires, stay away from them. The only path to wizardhood is complete celibacy. If you're not a virgin it's already too late for you and you have my condolences for your inevitable death.

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68f7a3 No.2248

>>2246

Some couples have relationships that last many lifetimes, they incarnate and get married life after life. No idea if these are soulmates.

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c723cf No.2288

>>2248

I think it’s a defined term. So, yea.

>>2247

You sound like you want to gay it out but daren’t.

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34ce0f No.2293

Simple wants and wishes can go a long way.

>>2288

We must protect our gays from the putrid flesh of the female menace.

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f89457 No.2294

File: 34932dc554717f0⋯.png (3.91 MB,1920x1385,384:277,rin_nico.png)

>>2246

>soulmates exist? how it work?

They do in some way, not as in the ancient myth in my experience but it is real. I didn't believe it myself until I met her. You'll just know.

>>2247

>Women are evil psychic vampires

Psychic vampires are BS. Real vampires drink blood and kill humans using a sacrificial knife.

>>2293

>We must protect our gays from the putrid flesh of the female menace.

We must not let the man hunting, money sucking feminists harm our gay girls.

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26e892 No.2316

>>2294

At first glance I saw a teratoma in that image with my third eye. For some reason.

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f89457 No.2317

>>2316

I just see the energy of a death/murder elemental, looks a bit like a skull. You sure it wasn't just that you saw?

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34ce0f No.2318

>>2317

I see inversion of christianity, murder elementals are rather passive rather than aggressive. They don't do much of anything unless provoked.

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34ce0f No.2319

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>>2318

And by provoked, I mean there's something negative/karmic/evil within a person that should be removed. I see the energy as provocative and aggressive, meaning it's disregarding everything both positive and negative.

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f89457 No.2320

>>2319

>>2318

There was something there, a cornered energy. Something trying to manifest. Anyone associated with the element of murder tend to be aggressive and hostile in my experience. But that isn't what I saw there. After this was brought up I did see that energy being forced into a bad spot, trying to attack to escape. I eliminated what I saw there.

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276131 No.2329

>>2317

Yes, that's it. I didn't stop to analyze it.

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34ce0f No.2359

>>2320

Either you're not seeing the same kind of murder-related beings, as in our conception of murder to different and where our sight take us is different, or there's something that needs to be removed from you. The actual reasoning and intention behind murder is normally not related to the act of murder itself, murder is caused by infantile emotions acted out on people or things that are perceived as dangerous, harmful, or in some way negatively affecting the murderer involved. If none of these provocative elements are within someone, there is no reason to murder them. If there are, then it must be removed, since typically there is at some level a justification for why a murder can and should take place.

The actual state of cultivating murder naturally and through sheer necessity requires suicide to be involved, else the ritual is never and can't be completed. After removing what others have done, unless the entity is acting out from delusion or sickness, what's removed must be removed entirely from all things. The memory of the action is what makes the act immortal, but the state of overcoming mortality can't be reached by escaping it, it must be struggled and wrestled with.

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f89457 No.2363

>>2359

There is no problem with that as my relation with murder entities, more specifically the elemental and nymphs mentioned elsewhere, is a result of past lives. It was, as you say yourself, fulfilled with "suicide" in some regard so there is no such problem in this life. I mainly just receive respect in this life from these entities for having performed this in past lives. Although at some times and locations there was a motivation such as stopping rapists, or it was motivated by hate in combination with self defense. Something must be removed in this life, obviously, or I wouldn't be here. There is correspondance to the myth of Inanna venturing into the underground where she was stuck on a hook and had to be rescued. I can see this process being mimicked internally and externally with many details in place. It just took me a while to move from the understanding that beings and entities mentioned in these myths are not necessarily different individuals but may be interpreted as internal processes of the main character's mind. The myth is in my current view a story of someone's enlightenment.

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34ce0f No.2364

If you have to put suicide in quotes then the nature of murder is different from what I'm talking about.

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f89457 No.2365

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>>2364

That's because it's complicated. It relates to something we've discovered during the process here. Some people with magic proficiency, apart from having formed an immortal mind in the past, which, yes, was performed by killing yourself, there is another detail. Some people followed a specific witchcraft tradition, the one we today call vampirism, and reached the stage where they had to die to become actual vampires. But unlike the dying and waking up a few hours later like in movies, the process can take a long time. It may also involve timeline shifts and time travel to fulfill things which must be fulfilled to complete the transformation. While being incarnated elsewhere, the original body is in a state of magic sleep awaiting the soul's return and the awakening to the state of being a real undead. So then would you say that the person committed suicide? The body over there is just in a temporary frozen state at the moment of death and will be healed upon the return of the soul.

This is not a unique situation, hence I placed "suicide" in quotes to indicate that such a ritual involving murder and ending in self murder, is not a "real" suicide in the sense of ending that life and body for good. Not from the perception of the person. To others it was a suicide and the person then came back, but that is why it's a situation hard to define.

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34ce0f No.2366

>>2365

That's not at all what I'm talking about, then.

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34ce0f No.2367

Murder is a specific action, under a specific context, undertaken through blunt and brutal means physically. Although it's done with intent, and ultimately it's the intent that matters, the physical and literal aspect of it is what matters to me and is what differentiates an entity designed for sensual pleasures and rewards from a selfless destruction of evil and corruption, the first one undeniably being capable of murder but the second one being different in terms of quality, and represents absolute murder of all things. Give it some thought and you'd realize murder isn't even necessary for such a thing to happen, it's a state of purification brought out from a specific mindset.

An immortal mind is a basilisk loop that represents a deep and hard to unravel paradox.

But really this is me saying that I prefer to hang out with certain entities over others, the ones who are approaching aggression look demented to me.

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f89457 No.2369

>>2367

That's a limited view, it's not that simple. Past life, real me, had/has more of a fetish for murder and bloodlust in itself. It just so happens to be linked to the female body and can't manifest in my current bodily form.

This was one thing that made me start questioning taoism and Lao Zi's saying that those who find pleasure in slaughtering humans won't find happiness in this world. Then what world would they find happiness in? That's both illogical and from past lives' memories also just factually false.

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34ce0f No.2372

>>2369

>limited

It's taking the essence of murder as I presented it. Adding in pleasure to the mix doesn't leave a murder elemental, it leaves pleasure. Murder is more of a passive action, the real structure is the belief and motivation behind the actions, and the actions don't align with pure resentment then I don't consider it to be related to murder.

Killing in itself can take different forms and different symbolic meanings depending on the circumstance, the only real limitation is the word "murder." Your knife is like honey and milk to me, representing revenge and positive emotions rather than what Amok is, a purely negative force. This is how I view it. There's a categorical difference that has to be made.

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34ce0f No.2373

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>>2372

"Pleasure-killing" would be more like it. A mix of pride and resentment, pride taking the forefront, and is impure from this fact. I watched some clips of some gore-porn flicks and the soft-cooing of the women as they poke the eyeballs out of others is what it feels like, the pleasure isn't in the act of killing itself as the sensation of power gives the person. For women, sex and power are one in the same. A mix of narcissistic entitlement and rage drives these things.

Khorne and Amok share enough of the same ideals and approach as to make me think it's just a male thing.

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f89457 No.2374

>>2373

For a man to commit these acts in my view is just perversion. I can't stand it myself, but with the perspective of femininity added as the frame, I know I didn't have a problem with it. The female form itself is a fail safe, protecting against degeneration, while the male form is standing unprotected. This is leaving the topic of the thread completely but to just finish the sentence and draw the same conclusion again, this is why ethics and morality are needed for men. And this is the most annoying flaw of being a man.

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f89457 No.2375

>>2374

But with aging the female form degenerates and the protection fails… this is obvious but should probably be put in text as well.

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34ce0f No.2376

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>>2374

Thread topics only matter when they're enforced.

You view morality as a form of power as far as I see it, where I see it as a form of weakness. It's intentionally limiting a man's behavior as to allow him to interact with other men and women without beating them senseless. I hated it growing up when women try to enforce their framework of how the world should work, their morality, and enjoyed the less sentimental form of just hurting each other for fun that boys like to take part in.

I've been to different schools and different regions have different male-to-male interaction. Evangelion is great but also slightly uncomfortable to watch.

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34ce0f No.2377

>>2376

People selectively enforce certain ideals and ethics but don't enforce other ideals and ethics, but if it's not explicitly stated then I either don't know it exists or believe it doesn't matter. Your view of femininity doesn't fit into my view of it, but I allow for the fact that different kinds of people exist. Trying to find the "nature" of women is absolutely nonsensical to me.

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34ce0f No.2378

I don't even know how to define perversion, so calling something perverted to me is pointing to a different feature. Perhaps dysfunction?

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f89457 No.2379

>>2376

>You view morality as a form of power as far as I see it, where I see it as a form of weakness. It's intentionally limiting a man's behavior as to allow him to interact with other men and women without beating them senseless.

This is only very slightly different from my view. Being able to make men weak and harmless is power. That's the entire purpose of it. Distributed weakness, to be applied where and when I want to. Power is relative, not a fixed value. If you can pull everyone else down, you are powerful.

There is a tendency to measure "power" by means such as lifting weights which are standardized, this is a futile effort in trying to create a technology to withstand when weakness strikes. Remove the fixed standard for measuring and "power" can only be a relative value. This works perfectly in line with primitivism. Keep technological level at the lowest and no fixed values will exist, as value systems measure from the bottom and up, and everything will be equal if this system of measurement is never invented.

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34ce0f No.2380

>>2379

This weakens the overall tribe so you're functionally a jew.

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34ce0f No.2382

I have cuts in my mouth that are not allowing me to enjoy anything liquid or solid. Water and bread are my enemies. This is important enough for me to tell you, reader.

https://mangadex.org/chapter/908904/6

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34ce0f No.2387

>>2374

>The female form itself is a fail safe, protecting against degeneration

The only fail-safe I can think of is moral thinking provided by a man, a man intentionally limiting and weakening himself in order to operate and work with women and other people. Men do have this protection to the extent that they're capable of cooperating. Women don't naturally have anything like this, this implies they produce it like some sort of gas.

I have no clue what degeneration means in this case. Degeneration of what? Of the body? In which case, age is the degenerative factor. Another degenerative factor would be not being wanted, being ugly or disagreeable to the tastes of men.

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34ce0f No.2485

>>2382

I can now eat water and bread without tasting blood. Granted, I could've for the past week, but that's beside the point.

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6c7274 No.2666

The only reason i even bother with this stuff is the foolish hope of somehow contacting the goddess i Lost My Heart To As A Boy.

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