/sunflower/ - Sunflower

>>1300

>Yokais, according to lore, do eat humans

Yuuka ate me in one of my visits. Nothing bad seemed to come out of it

>>1300

I'm considering asking for you to call one of these https://shop.creepyhollows.com/living-entity-binding-custom-conjuration-the-capcarai.html

but I worry that the being might get hurt, since I'm currently having trouble with a couple of powerful beings.

Do you know any other type of being for protection/combat that is more powerful and "light arts"?

>>1311

I only have experience of those I posted pictures of. The amgaro are very resourceful in terms of spells, I'd say they're the real elite of the beings named on CH, but since you said you want a "light" one, I guess that won't work. I don't personally understand this divide, it seems pretty arbitrary and I don't really see why some are specifically labeled dark and others light. I wouldn't be able to make a distinction. But if you feel this is important, all I can say is that the summoning price in the shop is a good hint on how strong they are.

The capcarai at $160 per summoning and the amgaro at $1555, which is a pretty insane price for performing this in itself. But it represents the intent of the buyer, if you're not prepared to make this investment, you just don't want it enough I suppose.

I had a look at the homeworld of the capcarai and I think it would work out. Going by their ways of performing magic, it seems the best way to do this would be to summon a group of them. But this takes more responsibility and spiritual investment on your part as they'll be staying with you, in your home 24/7 and they'll be expecting a mutual exchange which involves their personal development as well.

If you are under attack and think this will be a problem, I think you'd want to have a couple who can link for power generation, meaning a male and a female for balance.

If you look through the elite white arts list, there's these for example;

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/living-entity-binding-custom-conjuration-the-alderod.html

Said to be nearly indestructible. If you're worried about them getting hurt.

Generally going by the description of their focus on learning and higher education, maybe this is a better long term goal?

>>1314

>But this takes more responsibility and spiritual investment on your part as they'll be staying with you, in your home 24/7 and they'll be expecting a mutual exchange which involves their personal development as well.

I see. I didnt expect them to stay for a long time, I will have to give some more thought to this then.

Can you give me an example on what "more responsibility and spiritual investment" mean here? How does that help them develop?

>>1317

>Can you give me an example on what "more responsibility and spiritual investment" mean here? How does that help them develop?

Being human means having a spot here with a physical body. Experiences as a human are hard to get. They'll want to get these by interacting with you. Maybe they'll manifest things to you to create certain reactions within you, because they want to see and experience these things through you reacting to them. Maybe they'll downrigh ask to possess you when eating because they want to taste human food. It could be pretty much anything. They'll be reading your mind all the time. If you're a serious occultist or other follower of a path to enlightenment, they'd want to stay with you and aid you on this path so that they can become fulfilled too in the future. It all comes down to what kind of deal you make.

When I summon someone I see it as a more or less permant deal, meaning for them to stay as long as I'm here as a human. Some people make deals stretching over several lifetimes, so the summonee will still be there next time they're born, or will even go with them during the reincarnation process to make sure things go well.

I get now that this may not be obvious, but it has been discussed on the CH forum (despite the place being generally really silly). It may indeed sound silly to buy a $5 nymph summoning and get to keep her even into your future incarnations, but that's reality. A quick and simple act may last that long. In some way this puts the idea of karma into perspective as well.

>>1321

>It all comes down to what kind of deal you make.

Is this defined when you call them or is it a thing I define when I meet them?

Cause I cant possibly make any deals right now since I have a deceptive being around who wants deals, it would have to wait a few days free of him really really.

>>1322

>Is this defined when you call them or is it a thing I define when I meet them?

They will tell me their terms after looking at you. Normally this isn't a problem because advanced beings can read your mind and deepest emotional motivations so they'll make a perfect deal. But then I guess it comes down to if you trust them or not. In the case of buying a summoning service, you'd complain if the deal was bad and it would ruin their business, I get that, while here you'd just have to either trust me (which you shouldn't ever do on an imageboard with anons) or your own ability to determine if this is true or not.

All I can say, if this is any convincing argument, is that the entities out there want someone to stay with for their own benefit and are willing to give you services as payment for this opportunity. It's a type of personal relation, simply. I never use outspoken deals or pacts for this, but the deal does exists in the form of a balance in the relation.

>>1300

Alright, I think I am willing to take the generous offer.

I was the anon from the Q&A thread who asked how to find an angelic like entity.

The reason for that description was because I have minimal experience in properly dealing with

other entities, and therefore preferred something nice and patient. My telepathic skills are nearly retarded to say the least and my astral senses are worse atm.

So the best way would probably be to overcome my fears and face this opportunity, developing the skills by using them. Nevertheless, after thinking about it

for a few days, I stumbled upon the entity listed here in this thread and genuinely think that this would be the go to choice.

Mainly because of the supposed proficiency in kinetics because that's what I mainly train for, the possible knowledge gained from them and the their ability to protect themselves properly.

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/living-entity-binding-custom-conjuration-the-alderod.html

You do your thing if you are still offering the service, I'll try my best to keep up with it later on and report back whenever I feel it's right to do so.

At the end of the day, >>1330 it's also up to them.

There's one last thing I must know. Is it possible to simply break the "connection" in a polite way if shit hits the fan somehow?

I am not expecting that, but don't want to risk falling into some form of trap.

>>1775

>Is it possible to simply break the "connection" in a polite way if shit hits the fan somehow?

If you both complete the terms of your contract, it will end. This can happen in different ways with different beings. Most of the time I find myself making what seems like a long term pact for a goal, only to finish the terms in a relatively short time such as 2 months, at which point they just say "thanks" and leave as we both reached our goals.

>>1776

Ok that makes sense and seems totally fine. The only thing that matters now is what kind of deal these entities, if anyone at all, come up with.

>>1300

If you're still around, I'll take you up on this offer. I may as well give it a try and help you out with this experiment. Let me know if you're still able.

>>2202

I'm here. Provide a link with preferred entity from CH and a short description of yourself to make it easier to send them to you. (Personal identifiers like fav color or anything will do.)

Will also be good if you return with feedback after the entity arrived so I know my aim was right.

>>2203

Sure thing. Before I make my choice, do I need to explain my intention for the interaction or describe my "terms" of the arrangement or anything like that?

>>2205

These beings aren't demons of that kind if demons at all. They may accept a deal with certain terms but you need to think about this more as a personal relation. They'll read your mind anyway and determine if they want to interact with you based on what you're thinking about. So it's not like your stated terms are final in any way. They simply won't go by a mere stated contract, they'll look into your whole motivation be begin with.

Also as the beings responding to this "free" summoning aren't the same ones as those who demand your intent to be expressed through the transaction of money, they differ somewhat from what you may be used to. Treat it more as me acting like a referrer of spiritual contacts. It's not any different from you reaching out to a spirit in the woods and interacting with them. They will demand a balance in the interaction, and it may not be clearly stated how this is to work out. Whatever you ask for will cost something but they won't be harming you when this is a mutual relation. It's more that if they invest time for your development, you need to spend the same time for their sake.

>>2208

Alright, thanks for the tips. After looking into for a bit, I think I'd like for you to call a Fallior. Since this is one you've had experience with, could you describe what it was like for me? I'll probably end up making this my choice.

>>2210

>Fallior

The Fallior from my experience tend towards natural things, forests, fertility and larger universal parts of nature like stars and star systems. They're intergalactic forest spirits in some way.

Official CH description here:

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/living-entity-binding-fallior.html

>>2212

A fallior going by the name Alun has been sent your way, you may call her Alun Fallior, with the entity name as the last name.

Her body type is slim, her alignment has something to do with forests at night and water streams.

>>2214

It is recommended to offer her an astral artifact such as jewelry as a symbol of your bond.

>>2214

OK, thanks. Is there anything else about her or this arrangement I should be aware of? Any info similar to what you provided in this post >>1779 is appreciated.

>>2217

You will have to talk with her about the specifics, I handed over your contact info to them and she decided this was for her, I didn't have to do much more than that.

>>2229

That's a pretty good rundown, so it should be enough to get started. I'll report back with anything that happens after trying it out for a bit. I'd ask what you personally experience when you do this so I know what to look for, but I get the feeling that me setting up expectations could potentially inhibit me. But on the other hand, it could work as a general guideline, as long as I don't expect the same results. What do you think?

With those who can already interact with entities we never really talked about how they experience it personally in interactions, we only talked on point with with we were doing because it wasn't important. So I think you should just learn how you do this best in your own way, and you can take part in the group sessions and see later on if your experiences compare to others. That's what the sharing of experiences is for in the Gensokyo/Japari Park thread.

>>1298

its me ancap anon , i know i can contact these beings my self but since you are offering to send some i would like you to send me in the light section, the capcarai being, The kavalya being, The radmith being, the cembe being

and in the dark section, the degezi, the marzak the hekkuz, the retivus, the sersau.

thank you op blood anon:)

>>2586

Please stick to the format of the offer presented. There is some work involved here.

>>1300

>Look through the Creepy Hollows list of spirits and other beings, and pick one you want to work with.

>reply to this post with a link to the spirit description from the shop and attach an avatar image to represent yourself to your post

>I'll offer to attempt one summoning for each poster as a way to get beginners started

>>2589

>I'm one of those spirit-keepers active on the CH

Then you should already know how to communicate with your spirits? I think you need to narrow down what you want help with specifically.

What is easy for you, and where do you meet resistance?

>I don't follow anime, so I have to admit all the references to the show lore referenced here kinda just goes over my head

Touhou is a game series, whose creator takes copyright very lightly, which has resulted in a huge spread of merchandise and fan art. See video.

The world representation here called Gensokyo corresponds to a real existing astral "paradise" where many asian folklore beings come from. They are called "yokai" but for the ones we interact with here known through the game series, we call them "touhous", this refers to specific character types.

The standard approach to spirit interactions used by the Sunflower group is visualizations. By visualizating astrally existing things exactly, your mind syncs to them and you can interact with, them even if you cannot see them with your astral senses. This is based on something we found during practice - that it doesn't matter if the image in your head is something you see through spirit vision, the 3rd eye or if it's an image you willfully visualized. As long as it's correct, it will work.

See the temple thread

>>3

for how to use our astral meeting room, and this thread

>>97

for more details on how to use it. If you're new to this method it may take some practice, but all the information needed is there. You can also bring your spirits to the temple and practice channelling or telepathy with them in there.

>>2590

Ah, so that's why you're calling the Youkai Touhous! Got it.

I appreciate the video: it was very surprising! I suppose I had expected something more like a role-playing game.

Oh I can communicate via "dreams" i.e. astraling out. I can also slowly get answers from the pendulum.

What I have difficulty doing is getting visuals in the minds eye, and I very very rarely get any physical effects.

I know I should be trying to journal in the mornings to strengthen the astral mental to physical mental pipeline, but I have enough trouble waking up on time for work, yet another delay in the morning would be very frustrating.

I do appreciate your answer. And as time permits I'll try working on the visualization suggestions.

Humans just have so many different knobs, wires, and dials to adjust for optimal results.

>>2595

You should be able to get them yourself ;^)

Give it a try. The two you have should be able to tell you how.

Also these are individual spiritual beings, not pets you can breed. If they go along with this it's because that's what they wanted all along, and they probably planted this idea in your head. If not, you need to respect their will.

>>2595

Actually those two, the Radmith and the Haza, particularly the Haza, seems like a version the Venom (see spider-man) beings. Those are not safe. Yes they sell them and summon them on demand but that doesn't mean anything. Those can mindcontrol you and make you believe whatever and they can look like whatever they choose and possess anyone they want and the person won't know.

If you want to work with them, go on, it's your choice, just be aware of what you're getting yourself into.

I left a rainbow colored bell artifact in the temple's study corner just in case. Ring the bell to temporary subdue them if they get too intimate. Venoms are indestructible so all you can do is scare them off for a while if they get troublesome.

If you're willing to put in the work and tame one it's doable, and you can make them take the form of a cute anime girl if you want. They're still extremely dangerous and intelligent killer slimes at heart though.

>>2600

All I know is what they wrote on their own website, that they started summoning for themselves and for friends, and then started selling beings bound to artifacts, spells and stuff online, and it grew. Try here

https://www.creepyhollows.com/faq/

>>2601

I'm curious to know, are these beings as powerful or magnificent as they present them to be on their site from your experience? Many of them, especially the elite ones, appear to be gods in their own right. Are they really so powerful or are they being oversold to some degree? Those elite spirits they show are intriguing but their descriptions appear to be too extraordinary.

>>2602

The general rule for all beings there is that they're high in technical skill but low on energy. Their main concern is energetic depletion as a result of their home worlds being overpopulated.

Regular nymphs anf faes don't have much skill though, as an example, they're more like underfed children, if you treat them right they can learn and grow.

The elite spirits are highly skilled in magic, very advanced. But in power level they're at most lower average and they're bodily sized about a human 10 year old. Then we're talking about the real costly summonings, such as

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/living-entity-binding-fallior.html

and

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/living-entity-binding-the-amgaro-time-travelers-of-magickal-power.html

They can do all of what the descriptions say, instrumentally. If one of them is described as having the ability to change your fate etc, that depends on your own ability to accept a change to your fate, they can't dissolve your karmic situations. If you carry the weight, they can do all of what they're said to be able to.

>>2605

I literally visualized sexy, but it kept changing into putrid and demonic.

>tantra

No, I literally just wanted to coom. I don’t care if you think I’m a degenerate. I’ve been doing it my whole life.

Funny thing is that when I use porn online when I close my eyes I don’t see any of this.

Well you asked how to fix it and that's what you need to do. With porn the jewish porn stars will take your energy and turn into money so there won't be any left for any other infernal beasts. If you want something better you need better motivations. Sorry but that's the deal.

>>2231

Hey, I'm back after a month. This thread ended up slipping my mind for a bit, and also I've been somewhat preoccupied so I haven't been as active with this as I ought to have been, but I'd like to confirm something. If you can actually remember, could you describe how she

>>2214 looked to you?

>>2621

No particular traits that I remember, sorry. Slim and tall, wears a long dress.

>>2625

Do you recall the color of the dress? Did she appear to be sort of "foggy" to you, considering her alignment?

>>2626

I tend to see entities based on their energy and it may vary based on if I look at them briefly or interact more with them. Some may look whitish-foggy, this goes for many forest spirits and wind nymphs.

I just looked now and it seemed to be blue, but the energy is both darker blue and green/orange so it could look like any of those. Although the material looks light blue to grey.

What did you want to confirm? Don't put too much weight on if there are differences, trust your own perception.

>>2627

Just wanted to see if we got a match on appearance and if I'm on the right track, although based on my current understanding appearances of spirits tends to vary in certain ways depending on how it gets filtered through someone's consciousness (e.g. Goetic demons). Thanks for answering though, I'll keep at it.

How did you experience her arrival? If you don't mind sharing?

>>2629

Wasn't really anything flashy, but I managed to get a vision of what I think was her while trying to open myself up to seeing spirits. Slim and hazy, wearing white, came off as a bit "dark" in terms of "alignment" (for lack of a better word) like what they said on CH (so "dark" but not "evil"). Has only happened once so far, so I'm going to try and be more active with this and see what happens. I think as more time passes it'll become easier, so maybe another month or so.

>>2627

I've reached the point in time where I think I should be getting a Kitsune or a Tenko. I haven't seen them in CH, however I do know that others have had interactions with them. Although I am happy with my spirit wife, I'm looking to expand my spiritual interactions. I feel that I've grown enough to attempt to do so.

>>2642

Thank you. I'll use this. I do get a feeling they might be observing me.

>>2642

You mentioned the fox girl deal still stands?

Is there any way I could get one through the deal?

>>2647

As it seems, just looking at the sigil can attract them, but if you want to be sure, draw it.

Would it be feasible to contact a shoggoth to teach me polymorphing?

>>2652

You can try. Seems they can communicate perfectly fine in human language if you have them wear the ring

>>2644

>>2648

Okay, I've drawn it outside, so now, I guess just wait and see. Can you see if there is any interest in me, from them?

>>2605

>Silent Hill nurses are a thing

I'm not too ashamed to admit that I'm interested. Can they be waifus too or will they just appear for some quick fun? And most important; what exactly are they and how do I summon one? I have not took up your offer for one free spirit sending yet and I wonder if a Silent Hill nurse is what I can request.

Also any way to get a traditional looking onryo for relationship? I know onryos are usually vengeful spirits but weren't there some cases where an onryo got married to a guy and lived with him for many years? Horror waifus are kinda my thing. Maybe she could be bound to a doll and make it haunted so I could carry the doll around as a medium and show her the world and everything. Yes I'm the same guy who wanted a haunted doll >>2638

https://www.sheknows.com/baby-names/name/doris/

Also I forgot to say, I asked what name to call her and she said Doris.

>>2730

>Reading stuff like it may up to 90 days for your spirit to be felt or "it may take years"

That's bullshit. It's mostly tied to your expectations and mental state. The people who write that stuff are attached to being in the state of wanting something. It's very poisonous.

Just assume that your desired result is inevitable. When you get small results like you do don't be satisfied with them and accept that as the end. Keep the motion going.

>>2730

I'd say those are pretty strong indications that you're receptive to her after just a few days. Some people who paid for summonings as you quoted got nothing for 90 days or a year.

Try this exercise: Bring up a picture of a SH nurse you like and look at it for a while, until you know what she looks like. Then sit down relaxed and bring up the image in your mind. Let it sit there and then you project a message to her, telling her to communicate with you, or to show you something. Then passively observe the visualization, if it changes, let it change. This is allowing her an interface to communicate with you with minimum effort.

You don't have to know what a spiritual being "actually looks like", objectivity isn't really real anyway. Most people for example see Santa Muerte as a skeleton version of Lady Mary. I'm not comfortable with this image and she knows this, whenever she appears to me she shows up as a 9 year old girl with dark hair, kinda like Lady Mary would have looked at that age. I know it's an image and if I try to look past it I can see the skeleton image but she's just telling me to ignore it since I don't like it. They have an archetypal form but like vector graphics (vs pixels), there's no definitive form. If you need to see a skeleton to respect her, you do. If you've indoctrinated yourself with anime and respect young girls more, that image may work better, as long as it's your image of something you respect.

>>2654

Thank you for the effort, anon!

I haven't felt anything though and I think that maybe I am not sensitive enough to this kind of things.

Can someone tell me what can I do? Would clairaudience help?

>>2689

>most of the ones down here on our planet are very tough, their base alignment is malevolent, and their main interest is soul collecting. It's CH in reverse, they collect human souls. That's their outset so you'd have to make a really good argument for why you're not another pokémon to add to their collection, if you get what I mean.

That's certainly interesting. Could you elaborate? What do you base this on and what sorts of entities does this include? Traditional gods, angels, demons, nature spirits, etc.? What of beings like Zeus, Amaterasu, Ganesha, Mithras, and so on? Does this apply to stuff like Goetia? It wouldn't surprise me if there were certain humans they didn't care for like NPCs but when you say their main reason for being here is soul collection it sounds an awful lot like most of what they do is to further that end even with the humans they like, or in this case pretend to like. And how do you know CH entities are different? What sorts of shit tests can you do to see if they are interested in mutual benefit or helping you or if they just want you for the loosh? How do you find the "right entities" for you? This is actually something I've been pondering on for a while, whether there's some sort of metaphysical conflict (or perhaps several) behind it all that humans are implicated in, and which side to actually take, or if it's just a some rivalries and stuff akin to turf wars or something like that.

>>2689

I have a question and I'm interested in what you can answer about it, based on the things you say.

Why are we humans different? Why do we have physical bodies and become spirits when we die, instead of reincarnating right away? Why do we live twice is what I mean.

>>2744

>I was talking about those known from folklore which you can find by just walking to different locations. Those known as gods may also collect souls but anyone actively giving themselves to them know what they're doing so this is not an issue.

I see, so this is about folklore and fairytale beings that are native to earth then? What you're saying rings true, the majority of these sorts of spirits are painted as doing bad shit and causing harm or just being mischievous if not malevolent. You had me thinking that all deities and higher entities were just here to loosh farm and weren't trustworthy for a second there kek. A few folks do believe this, and I'm sure there are probably some that do just use people (I don't want to sound like I'm just bashing Christianity but Jehovah sure seems like he's one of them all things considered) but I'd like to think that most of the beings our ancestors trusted can also be trusted by us.

>The rest of this, it's very complex and sinister. /x/ is on the right track about it with skinwalker aliens as a form of body snatching scavengers and greys mindcontrolling people with implants and shit. This along with the saturn death cult and "matrix control system" new age lore is sort of right but you have to really pick the cherrys out of those beliefs.

I had a feeling something like this was the case. Obviously not all ayys have our best interest in mind but I think we do have allies out there (like some of the ones from CH, it seems).

>>2747

Also to add to this, I can't speak from personal experience, this is just based on inference and what I've seen so far, but I do think there are good folklore and nature creatures as well as bad (naturally, there are benevolent spirits as well as malevolent ones that will harm you). What do you think of stuff like elementals, tree spirits, river spirits and stuff like that, or elves and dwarves and subterranean beings, etc.? How are they based on your experience?

>>2746

>Why are we humans different? Why do we have physical bodies and become spirits when we die, instead of reincarnating right away?

It has to do with this one:

https://pastebin.com/CSXTEv8z

The chaos god level and the evil god level are both incarnation as a spirit, while the bottom "good" level is the physical 3D world. Those from above can also manifest psysically especially the evil layer beings (also duality level) who can directly come out here seamlessly as it seems. That's one perspective on it, but there are also maintenance deities who are within either good or evil but don't seem to be physically incarnated. But that's because for example (more on this below) elementals are gods who "incarnate" as wind, water, fire etc at will. On the contrary you can't just incarnate as a human for a year and then say "fuck it I'm tired of this", because a human life is around 70 - 100 years and it would just mess shit up if you could do that. Once you did come in here you'd also create karmic relations and then you're stuck because you have to negative them back to zero before leaving. The gods can overrule the physical incarnation system and the chaos level beings aren't in any circulation at all because it's internalized for them. This all just gets really messy trying to explain what I see and understand so I'll stop here, it's still nothing more than words when I type it out so it won't help much.

>>2748

>but I do think there are good folklore and nature creatures as well as bad (naturally, there are benevolent spirits as well as malevolent ones that will harm you). What do you think of stuff like elementals, tree spirits, river spirits and stuff like that, or elves and dwarves and subterranean beings, etc.? How are they based on your experience?

They're not really "good", their nature is chaotic. Elementals and their nymph followers just act according to their elements. I mostly have experience of wind nymph, those handle weather. I haven't had any contact with wind elementals, only seen one at a distance yet so I don't know what they do. Fire elementals take active part in wildfires and they have an unusual mentality where seeing fire will put them in a fiery trance state. They'll keep burning things until there are no flammable materials left and only then do they leave the trance. They're pretty sociable and humane if you find one during off season, but can't be reasoned with once they enter trance. Sometimes a toxic mix is created, there are some known folklore beings drawn to the energy of murder, who also tend to drag along fire elementals, which is the reason for the really bad wildfires in Brazil last year (A country known for high murder numbers).

It's probably correct to treat them as "forces of nature", that's what they are to us. Wind nymphs are really nice and can change the weather if you ask nicely. It's a case of

>sucks to be the mundane who didn't ask them

when they just agreed to move the thunderstorm coming your way and 20 000 people had power cut in the next city. It's the same to them, they don't have to care about what damage they do, because forces of nature are what they are, even if you can talk to them. It's not that they look down on people or even have any thought about it, like a human may care about not killing ants or protecting bees. Elementals and nymphs just act according to their nature, if you're nice to them they're nice to you, if you ignore them - or worse - complain about the weather, they can just obliterate your city without thinking.

The wind nymphs are often very cute, making unusual clouds to show me when I walk outside, then come down to get my opinion on them.

>>2749

Could you encode what you’re trying to say into a sigil for meditation?

>>2752

About what the human 3D state of incarnation is?

>>2750

What's your opinion of the various gods that exist? What spirits or pantheons would you generally recommend as benevolent and beneficial for magic? Obviously being on this board, you probably have a fond opinion of 2hu which are fairly advanced beings, is there anything else in your opinion? There are a lot of different opinions on this.

>>2755

what about the greek pantheons? olympic and cthonic?

>>2761

It's been minimal: Athena will respond to summoning and possibly also send a manifestation of her power in the form of an owl (like in Harry Potter, yes) and Stheno one of the gorgons did attend once, but that is it for my experience with them.

>>2764

I kinda expected she'd be the one easiest to contact, but is it strange that the other's don't?

>>2769

I haven't really tried, it just happened to be that I had a Minerva owl statue in my home growing up so it was natural to contact her first. I don't really know why I'd want to summon any of the others so I haven't. Feel free to try, it may be personal preference who you're compatible with and who shows interest in you. The gorgons are said to turn people into stone, but in D&D lore undeads are immune to it, I was kinda wondering over this so that may be why Stheno came.

>>2770

Hey, this may be asking a bit much and I could probably also ask this in another thread, but if you don't mind could you give a rundown on how to summon/talk to spirits you have no sigil for or haven't met before? Is the process any different? I've heard stories of impersonators being a thing, how do you deal with those appearing? That sort of thing. Is intention all that matters in that case?

>>2776

So it seems intention is enough so long as you've developed an idea of the being's identity, and contacting them with a friendly attitude is enough for them to respect you as well even if they're normally hostile (kind of like a lion as long as you don't irritate it, in that sense, it'll just tolerate your presence). You just need to get into the right headspace.

So one other thing I mentioned earlier, impersonators and impostors; have you had any experience with those? In the Q&A thread there's a post regarding sigils and how spirits see them and "spread gossip" about them in a way. What's to prevent some rando from pretending to be someone it isn't? How do you tell the difference?

>>2778

Yeah, that's tricky. If you can't determine on your own because you lack the ability, it's adviced to have a trusted astral companion to confirm things for you. Which is what this thread here is for!

The Venom beings and the venomlikes who appear as jellyfish can shapeshift into anything and attach to your body, infiltrating your mind. It's really difficult to handle as they're also indestructible. The only known solution was posted earlier in the thread:

>>2597

>If you want to work with them, go on, it's your choice, just be aware of what you're getting yourself into.

>I left a rainbow colored bell artifact in the temple's study corner just in case. Ring the bell to temporary subdue them if they get too intimate. Venoms are indestructible so all you can do is scare them off for a while if they get troublesome.

>>2644

>I've made a ring artifact for soul transformation of spiritual beings. It's a plain golden ring which if put on correctly will fundamentally change the form of the being into a cute girl. If you get approached by mentioned aliens, slimes, jellyfish or as in my case recently, persistant skinwalker beings on the astral, you can demand they use this if they want to stay around. Win-win for both parties.

>You can find it in the study corner of the astral meeting room, aka the temple. It's on a shelf by the desk in the back. Make any number of copies you like.

My friend had a succubus, he thought, until 3 months later he channelled a different entity who commented on the weird slimy thing on his head, it turned out being the first Venom we met.

If you really want one, or like me, just want to see if you can turn anything into cute anime girls, you can use the bell to suppress them and then force them to wear the transformation ring. Their nature of being indestructible and super intelligent aliens won't change but they'll look cute and behave.

>>2781

Damn I didn't think you'd respond so quickly, thanks man.

>She specifically asked to copy the scroll with the instruction for the marriage ring, so she's likely to use that as a binding

Does that mean I have to buy a ring or will I happen upon one in the near future? Or am I missing the point altogether

It's an astral artifact, as well as an astral scroll. It's materially real but from our perspective it's only a mental concept. Once you communicate with her, she will give you a ring, and you each put the rings on your fingers, as in a regular marriage ceremony. Accepting the ring works as the binding which will solidify your connection and make sure you do not lose each other. All of this will take place as visions, not physically under normal circumstances. Exception being in the rare case an entity decides to go physical and shows up in the form of a regular human, like kitsunes are said to have done in the past.

Has anyone encountered a cloaked humanoid entity with long claws that cuts up peoples' souls? May be related to Jupiter or Uranus.

>>2798

No, but I had this random though come up out of nowhere about The Shredder from Ninja Turtles a few days ago. There's usually something to things like this so I pay attention to it.

What is the entity like, in what context?

>>2799

Last night I was experimenting with throwing around curses at people who annoy me. After I went to sleep I had a dream where my consciousness was inside the described entity, which was cutting and mocking a man. This man believed that he was powerful and untouchable, which matches the description of one of the groups I threw a curse at. I got the sense that I could have completely destroyed his soul if I wanted to but I was holding back because I just wanted to scare him. Eventually he got a piece of information from Thelema (don't know what) which allowed him to ward away the entity that I was viewing from. I then instructed the entity to stay and watch the man at the perimeter of the warding, then I stepped back out of it and woke up.

Right before this happened I was receiving a narration that somewhat described the mythical symbolism of Uranus, but the narration called him Jupiter/Zeus instead of Uranus.

>>2779

>"venoms"

There has to be a better term, the venom symbiote from spider-man is just that, a symbiotic organism.

From the description these things remind me more of "the black mercy" from the JL episode 'For the man who has everything'.

A parasitic organism that creates a dream/illusion/delusion to paralyze it's host.

>Warning video contains freshly-cut onions.

>>2801

>the venom symbiote from spider-man is just that, a symbiotic organism.

>From the description these things remind me more of "the black mercy"

The "venoms" aren't plants though, they're formless but can take any form. The delusion they create only concerns their own form and the trust you feel for them. They do want a kind of symbiotic relation so I don't think it's wrong to use that name.

(Also since I like to collect and tame things like this, I had one of them wear a ring to stabilize in the form of an anime girl, and this one is right now telling me Venom is the name they prefer.)

If you ever watched Lexx, what you're talking about would be more like

https://lexx.fandom.com/wiki/Lyekka

and those aren't at all like the Venom beings. If we're to use fiction lore to name things it has to make some sense with their nature.

>>2800

I was messing around the with the "skinwalkers" as /x/ called them, the ones everyone was waiting for to invade through anvil clouds on the 14th. It was during that interaction I perceived something like this but only briefly, it later evolved into random memories from reading Turtles and The Shredder. But these skinwalkers don't look like that at all. The army rather looks a lot like this

https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Kull

They're here btw, but not all over the planet yet, so the prediction about the dates 14th to 17th may be correct. Coming soon to your astral location!

This is only loosely related to this thread but since dreams were being discussed I may as well present it here. So last night I had a strange but vivid dream involving what was apparently Sekhmet. I won't go into the details because it's pretty verbose (I can provide them if necessary though), but it seems it was pretty clearly her. The thing that confuses me the most is I have no idea what she would want with me, I've hardly thought about Sekhmet in the past, so I don't know what to make of this since it was so out of the blue. What should I do now?

Well "skinwalkers", you'd think the people who throw the term around had a sense of it's meaning, with "skin" being the physical body to aliens who don't have one. The people who made statues of them and wrote this shit down in the past said they look just like humans, imitating their voices perfectly and you couldn't know if the person was real or not. Take a hint. They rip out people's souls and take over their bodies. Then they'll use corona as an excuse to impose martial law or other measures, and in a few years time they've taken over and humanity is ruled by an alien elite who looks at them as cattle. I'm just speculating, but do consider it, why would they come and just slaughter people and cause panic when there's already a functional governmental system. If you want to built a slaughterhouse you want it orderly. They have no reason to be "honest" with cattle. I'm just bringing it up here because the people reading it are more likely to find this message useful.

>>2809

Sekhmet is the rarely mentioned companion of Corona-chan, Pandemic-chan. (My indications are that Corona-chan is Nut.)

Sekhmet is both the cause of pandemics as well as the to-go deity to ask for protection from disease.

>>2811

I see, so what am I to make of this? How am I meant to respond to a random visitation like this?

>>2812

Can you elaborate on what the visit was about? Unless it was all an erotic dream, but there would have been something more than that?

>>2813

It's hard to say what exactly, I know she spoke to me but I don't remember specifically what she said, the experience itself was quite vivid but there was still some "haziness" to it. I didn't say anything to her myself but I think she was telling me something about "cultivating" or aiding me? I know it was something along those lines. She seemed to have taken a liking to me for some reason, the experience wasn't unpleasant at all, I was safe, wherever it is I went.

>>2814

Do some research on her so you know more about the meaning of what she stands for, other than that I don't think you have to do so much. She'll hint at you what to do.

>>2798

>cloaked humanoid entity with long claws

Took a walk at night and saw a dark figure by the side of the road on the way back, it was from a distance but I got the image of something that may be this thing. It was really tall, maybe over 6 meters. One of my companions got in front of me to keep it away. It stayed back a bit and was no longer physically visible but I could feel a presence when passing that spot.

>>2803

That's good to hear, if it can have a preference then the venoms do appear to be sapient.

So, as a ignorant mundane how would i start contacting benign entities who could help me begin my practice?

My goal in this is extravagant nothing less then the total conquest of the universe, the cessation of death, and the halting of entropy but these are things I have theoretical solutions to that when incorporated with a system capable of bringing enough power together tot sustain them will begin a self-feeding feed-back cycle which when brought above 100% effeminacy by thermal-inversion will create energy and matter breaking two of Newton's laws.

So this isn't something I intend to do lightly, but it's also something that i know i can't do alone.

>>2826

You want to make a "closed system".Then you would need something that functions like Maxwell's demon to allow infinite energy recycling. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_in_thermodynamics_and_information_theory#Szilard's_engine I'm not sure the other things you mentioned are possible given the current mundane understanding of things. What are you proposing here ? Is it that you think current science is wrong about it's conclusions and the right research will allow you to do these things ? Or is it that you want to use magic to make these things possible ? If it's the former that's not magical/spiritual, just occult. If it's the latter, why does physics matter ? Keep an open mind, have a few spiritual experiences and you might find yourself realizing that these mundane things aren't as important as you thought they were.

>>2832

You missed the point. If you do it with the right kind of dedication it will be internalized.

>>2831

>Grimoires themselves will become part of your power on the astral if filled with your wisdom

>IF

Just mindlessly journaling with no intent to use it won't do anything. If it's a working material you keep returning to and evolving through the creation of, and can use to build up your understanding and to teach others of the things you've learned, you will already know its contents by heart. The book is just paper, obviously that won't be something you take with you after death or anywhere. It's what you learned in the process of making it that matters. Those things will already be a grimoire on the astral, as a part of your being.

>>2832

I agree with you. Not a fan of physical magic-work myself so I don't keep altars, do physical rituals or write anything down. I can die any day and then it's only my will and my energy, that's why I already now work in my mind and with energy only.

But I've been thinking about starting a dream diary for lucid dreaming and better astral travel. It's often recommended. Do you think it's a good idea? Sorry for potential off-topic post.

>>2829

>They're probably some kind of super intelliegence, they just didn't bother to adapt to human culture before because no one was able to force them to. Maybe if you remember Akira there is a scene where one of the MCs is receiving a telepathic message from a kid with supernormal powers. They explain how there is a primitive force which exists in amoeba's and which is the basis of all life; to consume and reproduce. Human culture no matter how refined is still based on this same primitive force, but humans have now become mentally and emotionally detached from their true nature and treat this drive as alien to themselves. If the power is released freely again with no constraints from modern values, it leads to the events of Akira.

>

>These seemingly primitive lifeforms we call Venom have already solved what humans can't; immortality. So aren't they wiser than the common person? But we can't communicate with them unless they learn some human culture, such as having a decent looking body and not just being a slime.

That's possible, the initial encounter sounded a lot like every parasitic or predatory mimic archetype in myth and fiction.

The question then is "why" attempt the deception? or is deception something they don't have a concept of as a race? Like the green martians from, DC comics would the lack of cultural deception make the venoms unaware of it even while perpetrating it?

As for CH, i don't know if i trust that site, it panders way too heavily to "fortune enhancer" style promotions, which reeks of exploitation to me.

>>2835

Big agree, order and entropy are the only axis that the physical universe has.

will feeds one, apathy the other.

>>2839

>In this way, imagining her sitting next to me and smiling and saying some cute things, so beautiful and perfect, it inspires a deep love and longing in me that I cannot feel with any "normal" girl at all. Generally speaking, after you sent Doris to me my desire for a woman and hornyness has become as big as never before.

>Last time I tried to get in contact with her I was horny the entire night and couldn't really sleep well. I had multiple lewd dreams (but not wet) however in neither a nurse appeared. I try to be more detatched now and let her come at her own pace…if she is still with me. Maybe she has left already because I'm too messed up (spirits can read minds all the time after all)

Because they can read minds they know exactly what they're getting themselves into. Having a human side contact is very valuable for spiritual beings. You know why you got her specifically in the first place so don't hold back, she's hinting at you what to do. Don't stop at just visualizing her in romantic situations, go all the way and she'll play along if you do it right. Giving her the kind of image you like will help her develop her visuals, it's a good thing. You're underestimating how much energy you're sending to her in doing this. It's an exchange, the more attention you give her, the more she can give back. Those on the other side can see parts of your mind and your life you're unable to see yourself, and they can help you raise awareness of those things, if you let them.

>>2840

>Having a human side contact is very valuable for spiritual beings

Eh wait a minute, did you just say I'm a human?!

>>2834

Yes, writing down your dreams right as you wake up will improve your recall.

If you don’t want to write, what I do is close my eyes again and tell the dream out loud, often in reverse as I remember scenes further back.

You can also tell them to other people, but as soon as you wake up is the best time to remember them. Sometimes I do write them down, starting with general sentences or words and then filling in the information, so as to not forget anything while I’m writing. The ones I do write are those cool enough to be the plot of a book or a movie.

Lately I’ve been able to remain conscious in between dream scenes and I’ve noticed sometimes they are stitched together narratively but other times they simply jump-cut into each other.

By improving my lucidity I have also realized I have mainly two kinds of dream.

The first are essentially my mind thinking about something, just as it would in waking life, and a more or less coherent narrative forms that symbolizes my train of thought. Like seeing the energy of my thoughts in real time.

The other kind are astral travels. And here’s a secret: they happen more often when my mind is quiet during sleep. So cultivating a quiet mind should help maximize sleep adventures like that. During astral travels I have noticed stray thoughts commenting on what I’m experiencing may spawn characters, events or short out of nowhere “visions” representing them.

>>2852

>I had to flap my arms like wings to make it easier

I usually did this like that, but in a recent astral dream I had, I had an entity remove my arms and I practiced flying by using pure intent only.

>>2852

Another tip. Get good at meditation.

When you go to sleep, keep your mind blank. As hypnogogic imagery starts to pile up, consistently push it away and maintain your focus on the void (without strain), until you fall asleep. This too will help you enjoy greater lucidity in your dreams.

>>2838

>They don't understand the question when asked, and while I do understand it linguistically I have to say I don't fully grasp it either. Maybe it's their influence strengthening my already existing shallowness in relation to things like this.

My rambling was more or less wondering that as a psychic shape-shifting non-corporeal astral being the venoms might not even have the cultural referance of deception as a thing, since at once it would be both impossible and ever-present.

It would be akin to akin humans about what shedding skin cells is like, we do it but it's not something we notice even as much as breathing.

>>2830

>>2825

Idk what anon here experienced since he didn't post anything yet but as for the Yika I summoned, she's highly sexual. The description is no understatement.

>>2838

>How do you want to approach this? Are there any other spiritual entities you'd trust more?

I'm not sure I'm ready, but any being fine with working with autistic loner mundanes for begging practice.

Athena would be great honestly.

Also, the jellyfish thing is just about using the biological mechanism of a particular species to solve a large portion of the genetic damage that causes aging and malignancy(develops into cancer).

I like problem solving, a product of being tismed by nuclear fallout from Chernobyl

that's only half jokingly, there's a strong correlation between people with non-hereditary genetic diseases and being born up to 5 years after the meltdown.

>>2881

>begging practice.

>beginning practice.

Case in example, i can misread shit over and over again.

also accidentally tear chunks of skin off with bandages if I'm not careful

>>2879

Yes, it's better that she is sexual. As for my experience I simply feel better as time gets on and sometimes feel some sort of nice connection. In my dreams women will sometimes hug me.

>>2881

>Athena would be great honestly.

Try summoning her by visualizating her or praying to a statue or image of her. She's not the kind of god to stay around much in my experience though. She may give you a blessing and then you have to do your own work anyway.

>the jellyfish thing is just about using the biological mechanism

It's my understanding that physical jellyfish are just a representative image left for humans to figure this out, like an easter egg in a computer program. The jellyfish entities are the "humans" of a past universe who reached some kind of immortality. They also perfected technology in their own image which makes up the nanobots looking like octopuses and emitting orange energy.

One of them wanted to visit you and asked for a transformation ring. I gave them one because they can't be stopped anyway so it's better you get a nicer one to interact with than just a mindcontrolling (seemingly) psychopatic jellyfish attaching to your brain.

I'm not sure what they want, other than maybe they want to evolve further, they already know everything there is to know about physical reality.

>>2884

>the nanobots looking like octopuses and emitting orange energy

…I unironically have a 8th grade drawing of something like that, the "tentacles" are based on bacterial tendrils using a metaloid shell and electroresponsive materials use to animate them similar to muscle fibers in arthropods so that it can directly operate on cellular organelles by deftly piercing the cell walls and re-sealing them with a synthetic sealant.

More than a week has passed since this prediction. >>2804

Has anyone noticed anything? Can't say I did so far.

>>2911

Other then the usual 2020? Nah, there was just 2 more near-miss asteroids and a black hole might(it's inconclusive atm) heading towards us.

We also had a chemical warehouse blowup in india i think, and the US is descending into anarchy amid a plague as a locust swarm ravages india and western china.

>>2912

>black hole might(it's inconclusive atm) heading towards us.

Wait wasn't it Planet X that could be a black hole? It would never reach us tho.

>>2914

Maybe, planet X, like dark matter, is a theoretical explanation for aberrant readings of gravitational presences that we don't know the actual source of.

Planet x being related to our solar system's gravitational imbalance among known stellar bodies needing a counter-balance to which planet X is the theoretical answer to.

But no, the one in the core of the milky way might have started eating the inner rim of the galaxy, scientists aren't sure because the lack of resolution.

>>2911

I don't think they're going to show themselves unless you're showing interest in them. The energy overall in the world changed a lot after they arrived and started spreading, but it's in the background and maybe it's more visible from here because they landed at this location.

They're not going to announce that they're here. I did pick up a lot of screaming over telepathy the nights right after though, with some imagery implying they were ripping the souls out of people and throwing them into hell to take over their bodies.

How do I make elemental spirits do what I want them to?

>>2924

Elementals or just any spiritual being adhering to an element?

Elementals can't be controlled, maybe you can flirt with them and get something from them but you can't make them do anything. If you're talking about those creating weather like wind nymphs, just ask them. Make a sigil and draw it outside in a place where they can see it with a request and an offering and they may do it if they liked it.

>>2926

>>2925

Bardon has this to say regarding weather manipulation:

Initiates in the Orient control the Water element so completely that it is very

easy for them to achieve great phenomena with it. They are able to produce rain during the

hottest time of the year, during drought; and they can also do the opposite, they can stop

the rain. They can chase away thunderstorms, calm a turbulent and raging ocean, control

all the animals below the water, and so on. A true magician knows how this is accomplished

and does not require any explanation.

I imagine that this is done by amassing a great deal of elemental water and channeling it at the object you desire to effect; that is, the weather, or weather spirits. I think I'm going to go back to these elemental invocations and try and eventually build up to the vivid "block of ice" feeling that he describes, see what sort of effects channeling these energies at various spirits will have.

>>2934

Honestly, I can do that just by visualizing, and I’m not a grand magus of anything. The more I practice and learn to do stuff, the more I think people like Bardon were much, much less developed than we think, and wrote in this grandiose and mysterious manner in order to impress others and pamper their egos. Magic is easy.

If the majority of humanity awakened to how easy it is, we would never have weather issues, food shortages or any other problems of the sort. Truly heaven on Earth.

>>2934

>I imagine that this is done by amassing a great deal of elemental water and channeling it at the object you desire to effect; that is, the weather, or weather spirits

No, not at all. Don’t waste your time. Look at the sky and imagine it cloudy. Then close your eyes and transport yourself mentally so that it is cold, rainy, and feel the sky above you black with storm clouds. Impress the scene around you with all your senses.

Improve your power of focus through meditation and visualization exercises and you’re set.

As I said in my previous post, if you need to interact with spirits at all, they will appear in your imagination spontaneously while you’re doing this.

>>2936

>>2937

yeah I grinded cold imagery for about an hour and I think I accidentally evoked a demon. I don't have good emotional connotations with the cold.

>>2936

>>2937

If it were so easy then everyone would just do it and no one would ever need convincing, or at least it would take very little to convince them. Methinks you're just overestimating your ability, which isn't an uncommon thing (belief you control the weather is actually a common type of delusion of grandeur). Not saying it's impossible to influence the weather with magic but it's silly to think you can just do something as simple as LoA and "believe" precipitation into your area. It obviously requires some sort of work or mastery or anyone would do it. And Bardon was certainly no fraud. Perhaps you could say in the past they had unnecessary expectations for how magic was "supposed" to be done but he wasn't just writing to stroke his ego, that much is clear.

>>2937

And of course, this

>I imagine that this is done by amassing a great deal of elemental water and channeling it at the object you desire to effect; that is, the weather, or weather spirits

is a totally valid way of attempting to influence the weather, not a "waste of time" by any means. The method of doing it is exactly the same as what you said afterwards: concentration through meditation and visualization, so I fail to see what your issue with it is.

>>2942

So can you create rain during a drought? What about in an arid climate like a desert? How long does this typically take?

Usually I feel a great deal of resistance from reality when the weather is very clear and hot, even when my visualizations are very clear. I can usually drag a storm towards my location if it's passing by but creating one from scratch seems unfeasible.

>>2946

Wind spirits are like seaonally migrating birds, so if you want to create completely un-seasonal weather, that's not going to be very easy. There's just not going to be anyone picking up the call to carry out your request. It's my understanding that elementals make the molecules of the matter itself function while the nymphs organize the actual weather.

With high enough skill you could possibly do it directly, but I don't see the use in this. If you could directly change the weather on your own, there are probably other things you'd be doing instead of trying to force that exact thing.

The heat in Europe this summer was organized by a group of visiting asian wind nymphs, the regular local ones can't create this kind of weather. If you do it the conventional way, you're reliant on situations beyond your control. They also need to mind karma etc such as sometimes people need to be punished with bad weather and sometimes rewarded with a good harvest, certain seeds only grow under certain conditions and so on and to maintain nature this must be done right. They need to take all this into account, so just playing the role of a weather spirit for a day isn't going to be very easy, you need to be updated on the situation, what is allowed and what isn't. If you were to meddle in it, someone higher up is likely to get involved to stop you as well.

>>2947

I can only speak of my experience. I imagined rainy skies on a day where the sky was completely blue with no clouds and very hot. Next day I woke up and it was storming. By midday it was blue sky and heat again. Make of that what you will, but I think you spend more time thinking about magic than actually doing it.

>>2948

If you only did this once I'm not sure you should be casting stones. Anyone can stumble into a single impressive manifestation, true thaumaturgic adepthood is being able to reliably manifest and to be able to troubleshoot when something doesn't work. The barebones Neville Goddard framework doesn't really give you the tools to do this, if your manifestation doesn't come up that's just God's will and you need to wait longer. Which is true, but there are other more useful truths that you can use to better effect.

>>2942

Attuning yourself to an element through invocation makes it much easier to add that facet to your thoughtforms. If you regularly practice invoking Fire by doing nothing but pouring all your awareness into the qualities of heat and expansion until it becomes crystalized, you will be able to easily add the qualities of heat and expansion into your visualizations, thus making them more powerful and nuanced. This goes for elements other than the classical 5 as well.

>>2965

Thanks ill update later

>>1300

>beginner

How much of a beginner are we talking about? How bad of an idea is to contact a Damaltris for tutelage if I just started out with meditation and light reading?

>>2968

You've also said yourself previously that most likely our contact with these beings was likely planned beforehand or something like that anyway, haven't you? And that they knew what they were getting themselves into from the beginning. So the relationship was something they desired as well.

>>2972

It seems so, yes. In the beginning when I did this some people asked for "cheaper" entities and I summoned them and it worked normally. That was in a personal circle. But because I only offer one each here I suggest asking for a more expensive summon in the list it's usually no extra strain so the price when bought doesn't relate to effort, it would rather be an issue of limited availability since that usually means a more capable entity. Lately when someone asks, I don't need to summon them, they have already seen the request and just come by me to be directed to the person. Sometimes it feels like it was them inspiring the person to ask for them, meaning the contact was already initiated from their side. Going by how capable some of them are, they could very well have the ability to change timelines for this contact to be made possible.

>>2978

>but it would be bad for business if people had mental breakdowns or died after buying a summoning

Actually it would be very good for business as it would be proof of authenticity.

I doubt the insipid females who run that place have any real power though. If they sent a boogie at somoene it would probably just cause a small bout of depression and then flitter away.

>>2965

Actually do you have anymore information on the averka? I've read everything on the CH website just wondering if there is anything else.

>>2988

Only that they're very dark. The ones you get from the shop aren't representative of what they're like.

Most of them may be categorized as black arts in their terminology. If I get one for you, that's what you'll probably get. CH describes them as very sexual, while that is true I'd say that's a narrow understanding, they're "flesh and blood" aligned more than just "lust" aligned. The images I get are that they're the kind who would engage in sacrificial rituals, hacking (human or animal) bodies into little bits on a stone altar while a storm is approaching with dark clouds on the horizon. If you are able to see that as sensual or "hot" you'll do fine with even the darkest of them. But it's not a problem, personal compatibility is important for these summonings to work out, if you don't agree or sympathize with them, they won't be interested in you.

>>2989

Ah okay, I was the anon earlier that asked for one and just waiting for avarke Suzanne to arrive and get more information in the meantime

>>2990

Under normal circumstances arrival is close to instantaneous. There could be some local energies blocking you however, barriers she has to break down to reach you even if being very close. Try this meditation to reach more clarity on your end and you may speed up the process.

>>3002

Damaltris Zara coming your way. Prepare mentally for her arrival.

Once upon a time I bought myself one of those practically-free creepyhollows first time deals. I seemed to be making contact with something over the course of a couple of weeks, but then SHTF. CH 'tech support desk' was very little help, and I lost my trust for their practices. I discarded the original artefact, as well as that of the 'guardian' entity I'd panic-bought to try and protect myself from the hell I'd suddenly stepped into; I reached out to several charitable spirit-workers, one of whom was able to (apparently) un-do the "to my person" portion of the CH bindings- but then suddenly broke contact and pretty much told me I was on my own for the rest of this one, after taking a closer look. Things got REALLY hairy before I finally managed to reel myself in; but even now I feel like I'm still 'haunted' by something that I haven't been able to make go away. It sure as hell ain't my 'spirit friend', or at least it doesn't seem to be. "I went to creepyhollows, and all I got was my shit shaken, stirred, and stripped of any skepticism about the existence of spirits."

…. Man. I felt like I had some questions to ask, but I'm not clear on them any more. I guess I just wanted to vent. Can't talk about this shit to the family councilor, that's for sure.

Maybe this: How do you go about developing confidence in your divination/senses? My biggest blunder through the whole thing is that I was basically flying blind; I had no way to verify/test/interrogate what I was experiencing and felt the only course of action I had as a result was 'try to make it all go away.'

>>3070

Things didnt start with one little spook and me trying to block em out. It was an escalating series of "Okay that was weird" "Making me nervous, hypothetical friend" "If that's you please don't do that again" and so on and so forth. I didn't try nuking the place until it got to.. yeah I don't need to type that shit and you don't need to read it

Allegedly it was a female Kitsune, but most of what I dealt with was- I'm not sure I ever really made contact with the fox herself; it felt more like something else that was lurking around decided to take advantage of my 'awakening' efforts.

>>3073

Er, my perception of the 'officially declared' spirits was always pretty iffy once the bad shit started- I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't told me. I have no idea what the 'fairy' would have been, to be honest- none of the freebies they threw in my direction were described as little-fairy things.

I feel a deep sense of loss, contemplating the idea that she might actually be 'gone.'- but the main sense of presence is still quite strong. Confusing. There's a strong, clear feeling of 'don't give this up', but I can't tell if it's part of my own scrambled brains or what. I certainly put a lot of energy into the idea of her companionship.

>>3074

Looking again now I perceived a forest and looking into the forest I saw a white-ish or cream colored kitsune with thick fur. I can't tell what's going in here but there is a peaceful feeling over it. Maybe there was some kind of problem with you having multiple spirits and not communicating properly with either which made some of them frustrated. Try sitting down and visualizing this white fox and ask in your mind for her to come out.

>>3077

You are right. While doing a sweep in your astral proximity I located a group of kitsunes. They appear to be mongolian. They are aware of you but have been unable to find a way to connect.

I will try to set up a "hub" for them (with their cooperation) for them to use the Sunflower egregore to reach your location. If you just maintain an open attitude they should be contacting you soon.

>>3078

Much appreciated! I look forward to working with them. Is there anything you can tell me about the best way to assure that if I contact them, that I am indeed communicating with them and not a personal thought-form? Also any advice you could give in general would be great. Working with other spirits is still fairly new to me and sorting the fact from fiction on these things is very difficult haha. My intuition can only take me so far. Again I appreciate your help and fast response. (:

>>3080

I haven't personally experienced accidentally talking with personal thoughtforms/tulpas so I can't give much advice on this. Sometimes your past lives' selves may manifest as an external being and talk to you, but that's generally very different. One sign to look for is that external entities are not obedient in the same way, and there is a tension. It can be partially hostile but still friendly, and with mischievious entities like foxes they will definitely play pranks on you in unexpected ways. These are friendly but say if you get minor signs of hauntings in your house you know it's them. A tulpa won't do things like that.

Overall there is a stronger emotional feel of being in contact with another person when you interact with real beings, you'll just have to learn to discern. If they are able to tell you verifiable information you have no way of personally knowing such as predictions of small events you can use that as confirmation.

>>3078

>a sweep of your astral proximity

This might be inappropriate, but could I request the same thing for myself? I've been feeling very strange recently and my mood has been poorer, and I'm wondering if it has some spiritual cause or if it's something else I should be concerned with.

May I have a sweep of my astral proximity, I’ve spent my whole life unsure of anything. And the ideas that have been hitting me the last 6 months or so has changed the course of my life. To me energy is everything now and it’s so easy for me to understand! People call me crazy, and I don’t judge anyone for what they believe, I merely want to spread my awareness constantly. It just feels right, like I finally found out what’s been holding me back, spirituality. I came to the conclusion that energy is everything, we weren’t born with words, or ideologies. The only thing that stays constant is the energy. It’s always there! Now this is a lot to take in and it’s only been 6 months, but I feel a strong urge to somehow communicate with what some would call a spirit guide I guess, but I would call it more of a manifestation of my deep sub conscious! Like the real me that’s somewhere in their screaming to be heard.

Can you do a sweep of my astral proximity as well and tell me anything that comes up on your end. I’m so curious, and something told me to write you.any help would be much appreciated, I feel like I already have hit a wall in my spiritual path, like I know what I need to do but can’t get there. And I just started my path, I’m afraid of losing my passion.

Society dictates social standards, and the media dictates society. In order for their to be this good energy I feel their has to be a bad side too, with that in mind good and bad energies are creating tools and people don’t know how powerful they’ve made the words that they tell themselves everyday.

I try to tell anyone about my new found love in life, but everyone acts like I’m crazy. It forces me to not say things that I feel when I feel them!

I just need any kind of help really I’m a big jumbled ball of mixed emotions master number 11

Expression number 5

Soul number 7

Personality number 7

Birthday number 3

>>3086

>could I request the same thing for myself?

I'll do it this time for practice:

There is some kind of ghost near you and it's not something I would want any further contact with. I've seen this type before but I can't explain what they are. They get attracted by your attitude and thinking and what you have there is a pretty morbid one. Look into your media habits, is my suggestion, or anything else that would cause this thinking. It's an obsessive/sadistic type.

>>3088

>I try to tell anyone about my new found love in life, but everyone acts like I’m crazy.

If you speak in the same way you wrote here, you're not going to make any sense to them. Do a bit of a retreat and collect your thoughts. Maybe a month of meditation or yoga?

As for your surroundings you already have good natured spiritual guides, nothing has to be done. Just practice and raise your awareness and you will be able to communicate with them. You can only know them by interaction so I won't tell you more about them, it's how they want it to motivate you to reach out to them.

>>3089

Thanks for letting me know. Do you have advice on how to kill/get rid of it?

>>3091

It's feeding off your energy so you need to stop producing what it likes. Hence

>>3089

>Look into your media habits, is my suggestion, or anything else that would cause this thinking.

>>3092

I see, I can do that, but it seems like a rather "passive" way to deal with it, so I was wondering if there was a more "active" approach (either offensive or defensive).

>>3093

Access the temple and use any of the available artifacts you find there in the study. Or get the dagger described in one pastebin.

>>3095

OK, I'll try that, thanks. It is accessible to anyone, yes?

>>3096

Follow the instructions in the temple and you should be able to visit.

>>3

The only catch is that you can't be hostile, in that case you'd both be unable to sync and possibly also be hit by the sentry gun on the roof.

Do these creepyhollows entities actually exist in folklore or are they using the principal that since any entity that can possibly exist does in some universe and therefore they can be summoned to this reality using the correct means?

>>3188

Most exist in folklore, apart from some aliens from distant stars perhaps. They're just being described through the filter of the CH webshop, making them all seem less than they are.

Are there any spirits I can evoke for a shapeshifting/biokinesis teacher?

>>3224

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/CUSTOM-CONJURE-EMPUSA-SHAPE-SHIFTING-SEDUCTRESS.html

I could easily get you one of these, well known from Greek folklore, or you can get one yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empusa

Just make a deal for them to teach you instead of just them trying to drain you.

>>3227

Thanks, I'll see if I can get into contact with one.

>>2730

In the end I couldn't make any proper contact to Doris and I want to move on and leave this bullshit behind. I'm too busy and too distracted already with spiritual work as to care longer and I want to be free. I also don't want to have spirit sex and relationship anymore, at least not until I attained a proper enlightenment state.

I don't think she was ever real, but because I don't wanna be an asshole I wanted to do it properly just in case she is real after all and told her she should leave and I don't want to contract/marriage anymore. Did I do it right? Do I have to do anything more? It's interesting that around the same time ancap wrote on fringe that he revoked all contracts with spirits by writing it down. Maybe it's better if I write it down or sth? No offense but I gave it a try, took the free service, didn't work, was still a nice experiment. I want to forget about it now tough.

>>3514

I can invite her to my place instead, it's no problem. Sometimes contracts don't work out.

>>3515

It's part of the journey and practice. I just want to know if just saying it is enough or if I have to do something else. I don't want to use banishment or any other "harsh" methods obviously. You can take her away if you want tho.

>>3516

Atleast offer her a parting gift

>>3516

This is enough. Had it been you summoning on your own you'd have had to deal with it yourself.

>>3742

Irrelevant fringe race. No one likes them and their flying saucers are ugly. They also smell bad.

- my grey waifu

>>3744

Irrelevant to this thread. Most of those people were soulstripped so it's not important what they were anyway. Some of them are even dead but they kept it under the rug.

>>3747

I'm interested in how supposedly these entities had a physical human body despite having non-human souls. Were they just temporarily possessing soulless NPCs or were these people actually born/become Martians somehow? And is phenomena like this common in other races?

Now let's get back to the thread topic; summoning spiritual beings!

Start a new thread if you want to talk about aliens, or post in the grey thread if it's about greys.

>>594

Question, I'm new to this stuff and I really want to try summoning a spiritual being. Can somebody give me a guide to summoning a harmless spirits?

Can someone with experience please post a standard or wide-spectrum evocation ritual?

>>4282

Use the Sunflower temple and ask for someone from Gensokyo.