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edac4e No.760 [Last50 Posts]

Ask your on-topic questions in this thread! Try to keep it here and don't start threads just to ask questions.

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95eae1 No.769

>>760

How can I shoot fireballs?

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edac4e No.770

>>769

You have to be level 2. 6 if you're a vampire.

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3f0ccb No.774

Is there any good way "learn" how to visualize imagery if you otherwise seemingly cannot? I have a friend who says he can't visualize imagery, but he's trying to learn to draw, so obviously it's a big problem for him.

It's hard to relate when image visualization is something I've done myself for so long, so I don't feel like any of the advice I could give him is helpful.

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edac4e No.775

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>>774

>he's trying to learn to draw

Tell him to practice drawing still lifes and live models a lot, over time he'll be able to combine previously learned shapes and build his own images and learn some kind of visualization. You have to grind, there's no miracle solution.

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d46046 No.778

How does it do? And what does it are?

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940f52 No.782

>>778

It does what it must and it is what it will become.

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edac4e No.785

>>782

It needs to get its shit together, if it spams the board it will be banned.

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a63de1 No.786

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Hey, I was invited and told I should post this here.

Yesterday I found 4 ambiguous symbols (Like letters of an obscure language) inscribed in concrete by fire that I hadn’t seen before. The person I was with called it demonic, even though she isn’t religious. I felt a foreboding presence, although not very threatening. I lean Christian (semi Gnostic, sin is merely “missing the mark,” everyone is God, believing Christ represents an archetype to strive towards and that the entire Bible is allegorical for psychology and spirituality, yadda yadda) and jokingly gestured the cross, like in Orthodoxy, before walking on. While sleeping, I felt the presence of something with a child’s body (except it was like a shadow) with childlike innocence, bearing the capacity of evil from a place of immaturity. It didn’t seem capable of exacting much harm and was quiet and reserved. The location of the inscription became a cave that had been disturbed by people ERPing as satanists, who had drawn a pentagram by the entrance and carried in an altar. The child came from the side of entities that they tried to worship, but the child had little interest in them despite being disturbed by them (the cave was probably its dwelling place). Another spiritual presence, the soul of a senile (probably dead) intellectual who liked Swedenborg appeared to warn me of its intentions, seeming like he was familiar with it. The child began trying to merge with me through my right shoulder, and the old man, trying to stop the demon in his senility, also began merging with my right shoulder. At this point I was paralyzed with insane amounts of vibration, colored blue and white, slowly spreading from my right shoulder. Somehow calmly, I suddenly received the thought to call on God to ask for help with loving them. I began feeling love for them, which stopped them from merging with me. Both of them were touched by love and became grateful that I stopped them. I remember the senile man thanking me through a powerpoint akin to what academics make, but his senility was apparent (the final slide listed the year as 2016.5 while he tried to use the current date). I got out of bed effortlessly (at 3am). 18 hours later, I felt as lucid as I did then and hadn’t eaten or drank anything for the entire day, despite doing physical work, because I felt fully energized for the entire day. Some point afterwards, the child revealed it was female.

How can I interpret all of this?

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edac4e No.788

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>>786

Welcome.

I found a lot of symbolism in what you wrote and many similarities to my own experiences, things gained through spiritual practice and the general lore of this place right here. Your post is like a hodgepodge of the core of the things discussed on this board. Some of it is of a private nature (such as dreams and meditations) not suited for imageboards but there's enough here in the open for someone to see it if looking.

It felt like a sign of some sort and gave me a feeling you belong here. If it's not too much, may I suggest you skim some of the threads on here:

>>2

>>3

>>97

>>38

>>187

It may be easier than the (by now) close to futile task of trying to write a TL:DR. It's something you have to feel yourself to understand.

It's a movement, a path to change.

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faeaa9 No.789

>>788

Thank you very much for your warm response and introducing me. I agree with you that it feels like a sign. Your post immediately gave me a strange feeling that was somewhat euphoric, akin to >>295.

In addition, Eastern media has kind of forced its way into my life in the past 3 years as a source of understanding truth (through the people I’ve met and various experiences). In particular, Touhou has been repeatedly appearing in my life throughout this year even though I know next to nothing about it.

I’ve actually read/mostly skimmed nearly all of the posts on this board before you responded and am not sure what the next step is. I was going to go into talking about how I meditate often, reach pure awareness of being, have some success manifesting things solely through imagination, etc, but that feels unimportant. Like you said, it feels like there’s a higher purpose to me being guided here that can perhaps become more clear by expressing willingness to understand it.

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edac4e No.790

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>>789

What we do here is very "practice" focused, so a natural next step would be to perform a visualization attempting to visit the meeting room and asking for an interaction with Yuuka, our guide and mascot.

>Your post immediately gave me a strange feeling that was somewhat euphoric

The egregore itself was built for practice purposes originally unrelated to imageboards. Many different deities took part in the sessions which lead up to the point before its public introduction, most notably ancient greek deities and mythical creatures along with, to a lesser degree the egyptian pantheon.Throughout all of this however, Yuuka and varies other witches from the world of Touhou, "the eastern way", took part in leading the sessions from the astral, making up for the things we as humans could not know.

Strong energy has been imbued in the egregore during the process which brought it to the top of the "tower of Babel", the metaphysical location where all peoples of the world can cooperate over cultural and language barriers.

If you are able to sync with this purpose, you will feel it.

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824088 No.803

I think I am lost.

Thinking that something big might happen or I'm just imagining things.

It could be political, the virus, or "why this site exist until now" but it could be that all were connected but the problem is the nature of the events (malevolent or benevolent).

My question: What's a good way to cast away doubt? Or doubting is better I guess?

>>774

Voluntary nystagmus.

Lucid dream. >>698

There's also that enhanced vision part before and after sleeping.

I used to play a lot of mobile chess and at one point I started to imagine the board to play against myself. I was able to go up to 15 moves (or less) until I lost track. I guess it takes a lot of focus, there's people who could play chess that way through mail or voice, even blindfolded. Similarly, there are people who could hear music by just reading music sheet.

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344e98 No.807

>>790

I did as you said and followed the instructions in the other threads to try and visit your egregore. I’m not sure if I actually did or if I just imagined the whole thing, but I apologize for making an ass out of myself if I actually did end up there! I have so little experience with this that I feel like I’m still there even though I tried to leave after bidding farewell. Should I talk about the experience now or wait until the end of the week to post about it on the other thread?

>>803

Not who you responded to, but thanks for the visualization advice!

To your question, I know exactly what you’re talking about and know other people who’ve had false expectations too. I’m lay in comparison to other posters here, but in case you’d still appreciate my insight, I’ll share it.

If it’s false, the pattern seems to be that you want to delude yourself to make up for something that isn’t there. That doesn’t mean it won’t ever happen, if you’re trying to manifest something it just means that your work isn’t finished. If it’s true, the expectation persists in spite of doubt. Eventually it becomes a knowing that it’s true, and you don’t even have any capacity to doubt.

Specifically in your case, it sounds like you’re curious whether your experiences were meant to happen. I thoroughly believe they are, and you’ll likely have more experiences that bring their significance to light. I often find myself only understanding these things in relation to other experiences to find that they’re hammering a certain theme/motif.

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edac4e No.811

>>807

Sharing on weekends is only for the organized sessions, to avoid effecting other anons' perception.

Just using the temple/meeting room is anytime. Share it if you want feedback.

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8a565d No.815

>>811

Thanks. I’ve posted it at >>812. Can also provide a tl;dr if preferred

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824088 No.817

>>807

I appreciate the insight.

Now I have a clear vision that what I have to do is prepare for the forecasts of each scenarios which can be done. I'm waiting for the first swing of the pendulum, whether that "OP" delivers or not.

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6fba46 No.835

Hello, I've developed over the years a skill witch i don't see many people talk about in occult subjects. if i concentrate i can raise a heat, it feels realy good it's better than normal heat, but it affects the physical body, i've tested in thermometers and have shown to some close people, i can do it to the hole body or individual parts. If I do it on the hands i can cure people, not anything like miracle, just take away some pain, make them go into a deep relaxing sleep, and if I do it in the hole body, I somehow boost my charisma, people are really more open to me, and sometimes get very needy, like i can cure them. This charisma part I've used very little because it get me realy sore and dread.

I usually just lurk on boards but recently something happened that shaked me, I was visiting a mother's friend and her husband wes in bed with terminal cancer waiting for death, i used my thing and he passed away as I left the their house, this happened, nov 2019.

If you know anything or seem anything related to this please answaer, what is this, I've a lot of other questions in the same topic.

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b2b572 No.836

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>>835

Read:

>The Energy Cure - Unraveling the Mystery of Hands-On Healing

>>384

>pdf related

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c9973a No.841

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Decided to ask here instead of starting a dedicated thread, as I don't think it would be appropriate to, but what do you guys think of Gnosticism? It obviously isn't a monolithic belief system and the early communities had a wide variety of beliefs, but what do you guys think of it in general? Do certain beliefs from it have merit or not? Is the physical realm a "prison", or if not that negative then perhaps simply inferior to higher realms? I read in another thread here that physical reality is like a crack in a sidewalk or something of the sort. I've also heard statements about how this physical plane is just a sort of cocoon where we develop and grow into higher dimensional beings like larvae into butterflies (Grant Morrison holds to this view). What about the archons? And so on and so forth.

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b2b572 No.842

>>841

Things aren't one thing or another. Whenever you encounter two contrary views on the same topic, try to find a view that reconciles them.

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edac4e No.843

>>841

>what do you guys think of Gnosticism?

My opinion? A hinduism rip-off made by someone too afraid to officially go hindu in a christian country. Something that perverts christianity and supports cowardice. Like if you wanna be a hindu just say so and convert. Taqiyya is only for cowards in islam, real religious followers will stand by their faith until death.

I don't like it.

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bdaec6 No.844

>>841

It's too wide of a range of topics, and I have little interest in exploring all of them. But from what I've read and interacted with it's dogmatic and isn't that good of a system of thought to work with. Does it provide anything other than the possible assurance that this reality is fake and unimportant? The same assurance can be thought of as a trap, and the simple belief in this type of thinking would be all that's needed to fall into it. It looks like a very dangerous way of thinking.

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b2b572 No.845

>>843

By the time Gnosticism appeared, Hinduism was barely a thing in India. Besides, they are nothing alike. Such a display of ignorance.

If at least you’d have said Buddhism, your post might be salvageable, but cmon kid.

>>841

Learn about Platonism in some depth (don’t just Google it). It might offer you a different perspective to understand Gnosticism. In the end, whether reality is a prison or a school is a matter of perspective.

You can separate all religions into two camps: those that are older, organic and heterogeneous, and the ones that were created as control systems for the populace, and are either complete fabrications or distorsions of the former kind. Study as many as you can and you will eventually see the big picture.

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edac4e No.846

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>>845

>By the time Gnosticism appeared, Hinduism was barely a thing in India.

>Such a display of ignorance.

>Hinduism has been called the oldest religion in the world,[note 2] and some practitioners and scholars refer to it as Sanātana Dharma, "the eternal tradition", or the "eternal way", beyond human history.[4][5] Scholars regard Hinduism as a fusion[note 3] or synthesis[6][note 4] of various Indian cultures and traditions,[7][note 5] with diverse roots[8][note 6] and no founder.[9] This "Hindu synthesis" started to develop between 500 BCE and 300 CE,[10] after the end of the Vedic period (1500 to 500 BCE),[10][11] and flourished in the medieval period, with the decline of Buddhism in India.[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism

>Gnosticism (from Ancient Greek: γνωστικός gnōstikós, Koine Greek: [ɡˠnos.tiˈkos], "having knowledge") is a collection of ancient religious ideas and systems which originated in the first century AD among early Christian and Jewish sects.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism

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c9973a No.848

>>843

I think there's more nuance to it than that. It seems more like the emergence of Gnosticism coincided with early Christianity as an Hellenistic religion with origins in Platonic philosophy that later used Jewish and Christian imagery to win converts as Christianity became more popular. Many surviving Gnostic texts hardly even mention Jesus, if they do at all. Christianity hadn't spread far and wide when the Gnostic Christians came into the picture. Manichaeism especially had at one point been a major competitor to Christianity. Gnosticism was just much more "exclusive", so to speak. They saw themselves as the ones possessing the true secret doctrine for those that were capable of grasping it.

>>845

He's right, Hinduism is definitely older. He's probably talking about how every soul comes from a single absolute principle in Hinduism called Brahman, and Gnosticism is similar in that all souls come from the Pleroma, and the goal in both is to return to it. As far as I know, the similarities more or less end there, aside from beliefs common to most religions (e.g. divinities and demons).

>>844

If nothing else, I at least find it interesting as lore. I think they have some beliefs which have merit, like the three types of humans (explains NPCs pretty well) and such. Whether they're right about all that other stuff is another matter.

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b2b572 No.849

>>846

Hinduism: started to develop between -500 and 300. Flourished IN THE MEDIEVAL PERIOD.

Gnosticism: originated between 1 and 100.

I can’t simplify it further for you. If you are unable to understand even these two simple lines of text, there’s no hope for you.

At least stop spouting childish nonsense like >>843 please. It’s insulting.

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b2b572 No.851

>>849

To further explain my point: Gnosticism is a label that was applied to proto-Christianism once it was hijacked by the Church in order to turn it into a control mechanism for the masses (same thing happened in the creation of Islam, and yes, Hinduism, which are artificial and neutered religions).

They share commonalities because the truth is one and it could be that they share a common root. However, what we know as Gnosticism has its roots in prehistory, while Hinduism was a construct for social control. In a way, you got it backwards.

>>846

>copies and pastes from wikipedia

>retarded chinese cartoons

If you don't know how to read or write you shouldn't be here.

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edac4e No.852

>>849

I knew you wouldn't be able to accept that you were wrong, because your type will always try to discard information that doesn't confirm your ingorant view. Let's read that again shall we?

>Hinduism has been called the oldest religion in the world,[note 2] and some practitioners and scholars refer to it as Sanātana Dharma, "the eternal tradition", or the "eternal way", beyond human history.[4][5] Scholars regard Hinduism as a fusion[note 3] or synthesis[6][note 4] of various Indian cultures and traditions,[7][note 5] with diverse roots[8][note 6] and no founder.[9] This "Hindu synthesis" started to develop between 500 BCE and 300 CE,[10] after the end of the Vedic period (1500 to 500 BCE),[10][11] and flourished in the medieval period, with the decline of Buddhism in India.[12]

That part here

>Scholars regard Hinduism as a fusion or synthesis of various Indian cultures and traditions, with diverse roots and no founder. This "Hindu synthesis" started to develop between 500 BCE and 300 CE

The ideas already existed before 500 BC, and started forming into Hinduism by that time. Christianity was founded by Jesus around the year 0, which is 500 years later.

>Gnosticism is a collection of ancient religious ideas and systems which originated in the first century AD among early Christian and Jewish sects.

The first century is in the years 0-100. By this time hinduism in the form we know it, had already been forming for 500 years, while christianity as a whole consisted of persecuted underground cults and was less than 100 years old. The ideas of hinduism were still older than this, older than 500 years before gnosticism was even beginning to form. We are not talking of some well known folk religion either as christianity existed in hiding at the time. The "ancientness" of gnosticism refers to this period, which is centuries newer than the modern form of indian religion known as hinduism, which already existed before this.

It's likely that the ideas which resulted in the gnostic view of christianity was influenced by these really ancient beliefs brought in from India. It doesn't take much to see this influence by looking at the ideas presented.

For this reason, gnosticism is a perversion of christianity and a rip off of hinduism.

But go on, prove the cancerous nature of gnosticism by misunderstanding this again, I expect nothing less.

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edac4e No.853

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>>851

>If you don't know how to read or write you shouldn't be here.

When your statement can be disproven with publicly available and non-contoversial information there is no need to go deeper. I didn't see you attempt to disprove the actual information I posted, all you did was to twist the meaning a bit. This shows you have nothing to back up your view.

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f694c9 No.854

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>>841

I like to study a lot and learn about as much as possible, then cut away all the unnecessary fat and only keep the pure meat of that system. Then combine all the puzzle pieces into one big picture. What I find most of the time is that the pure meat is more or less the same for all good spiritual systems/religions and by learning one system I understand another system better. They have all the same core leading to the same one truth but sadly it is always burried under a lot of unimportant shit and silly dogmas. Gnosticism is for me one of the "superior occultism" schools and in Gnosticism it is especially easy to see the pure core.

>Is the physical realm a "prison", or if not that negative then perhaps simply inferior to higher realms?

Just open your eyes and decide for yourself. I mean for me it's clear, you just look at the physical realm and it sucks. It already sucks by default and sucks a million times harder if you compare it to the higher and purer realms. But you make your own oppinion after properly studying Gnosticism and a lot of other ways and compare them, extract all the pure meat and complete the big picture for yourself.

You asked for oppinions and that's what this is, just my oppinion.

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f694c9 No.855

>>854

Ah, I forgot to add something.

Is the material realm a prison or school? It is both! It's the shithole of the universe incubator that created you and let's you grow until you are strong enough to survive on your own. But at that point it would probably be better just to free yourself from it and leave to higher planes of existance.

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bdaec6 No.856

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>>852

>The first century is in the years 0-100

Technically between 1-100.

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24864c No.861

Hi, I'm pretty sure I just ended up with a magic phone but I have no fucking clue what to do with it, I fucked up the ritual so it doesn't have the number, but I know it's for me because the name was for a dead lady who used to live where I used to live. What do?

That or anyone wanna buy a mysterious Samsung a20? $200 plus whatever shipping is to your place.

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b19c4d No.862

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Can anyone tell me more about the concept of "higher self" and why it wouldn't be bullshit? I never liked the idea of it, the context around it when the term is used often seems like bullshit and doesn't match with what I know so far but that may just be because it's used by people that have no idea what they're talking about and thus use it inappropriately.

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f694c9 No.863

>>862

It's your true self as opposed to the fake matrix persona you think you are now. It's not you from the future but much more advanced or anything like that. I think a good example is that you are the character in a videogame and the higher self is the actual player. In a sense, both are you but only the higher self is real.

You need to unite with it or become it, but you can do that now without having to go through hundrets of reincarnations or some bullshit like that. I think the higher self is just your spirit, speaking in gnostic terms while your mundane matrix persona is only a combination of body and soul. It's your innermost core, your truest self and your highest wisdom. It exists in the past, present and future and at all times but for the higher self there is actually no past or future, only the present or the Now. All past and future lifes are but parallel lifes from the perspective of the higher self. All running at the same time and all can be accessed by the higher self as often as it wants and whenever it wants. Of course every life is it's own character that is bound to it's individual lifetime, that would be a normal unenlightened human. I guess your higher self is the higher self of every single other human too. And technically it is indeed true that we are all one, only when we are stuck in the character role do we think we are individuals. Shift your perspective from character to the higher self and you will become it. I think this is what Gnosis and Enlightenment and Immortality is all about. Then you can manifest in any life of any person at any time in existence that you want, or just stay away from incarnation at all.

I'm just speculating from what I've learned but I think this stuff is not so far off from truth.

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edac4e No.864

File: 6b272c08e6f37cd⋯.gif (18.29 KB,600x575,24:23,jungian_overthinking.gif)

>>862

Personally I could never understand what it was for when used by new agers and yoga hippies, but that was probably because they didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. A general description will probably do until you feel a need to resort to the word from a lack of better terms to describe something self experienced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher_self

I don't know your background but my reason for not understanding it was because of coming from a christian tradition with some interest in buddhism and taoism. All of these have in common that they focus on the individual and a relation to something external or internal which doesn't in any way change your worldview. Christians start believing in Jesus/Mary/God, buddhistists start working on enlightenment which is rather passive and personal and taoists start trying to understand the universe. They all maintain the idea of "self" in a conventional manner, in the form of the soul, the mind and the body. Christians save the soul, buddhists the mind and taoists want to become physically immortal. I know this is making it simple but that's how I see it.

If you adhere to any of these, a "higher self" isn't needed.

When/if you get the point when these religious views are no longer enough, that's when you may find a need for the "higher self" concept. Freud and Jung based their psychology on jewish kabbalah, and the concept can be used there. It can also be used if you study hinduism. Unless you picked those up, I'd settle for just reading the wiki article and forgetting about it.

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f694c9 No.865

>>862

>>863

Also, this is where it get's a little bit confusing, I assume it is possible to preserve your individual character when uniting with your higher self. Your entire being get's turned into the higher self, body and soul all become part of the spirit, become the spirit. Well body maybe not always but the soul at least. I suppose this is what Jesus and Guatama did for example. Only like this I can explain immortals meeting and hanging out together and groups of them existing.

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b19c4d No.866

>>864

>>863

>>865

This all makes it clearer but I still can't really agree with it. I can accept it to the extent that the higher self contains all past lives memories and personalities, like a storage that can be unlocked and make you be your 'real' self again, but that's where it ends. The idea that it is essentially omnicient and an immortal or deity already is something that I cannot accept. For example I see people often say things like "Just get in contact with your higher self if you want XYZ", if anything was that easily given why would I go through any effort at all.

>I guess your higher self is the higher self of every single other human too

This goes too much towards "the all" used in hermeticism that I can't quite get behind as I refuse to become one with all.

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f694c9 No.867

>>866

>but I still can't really agree with it.

>I refuse to become one with all.

That's good. It's good to think critically for yourself, make your own judgements and say NO to what you feel is bullshit. This is much better than just blindly eating up dogma and going on faith alone.

>The idea that it is essentially omnicient and an immortal or deity already is something that I cannot accept.

I personally don't think of it as an actual deity even if I say stuff like "It's the player and you are the character" You are the being and it is a force that brings forth the being. It may manifest for you in a personified way as a deity but only because you create it in your own mind that way. In reality it is just eternal, unbreakable force. Pure will and awareness. Not an actual immortal being in itself. And yet there is massive wisdom and intelligence inherent in that force. This force is what guides you and if you unite with it makes you an actual individual immortal.

>This goes too much towards "the all" used in hermeticism that I can't quite get behind as I refuse to become one with all.

I don't really know what "the all" is and how to become one with it. You'll still be an individual point of consciousness but unlimited by time, space and matter. You won't cease to exist or be dissolved into some higher being or whatever.

>higher self contains all past lives memories and personalities, like a storage that can be unlocked

I don't think this even matters. Maybe you want memories of other lifes just for curiosity and fun or to learn something from them but just getting other memories and personalities won't make you your "real self". You're still a character but with more memories now.

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c5d5cf No.868

>>866

>>866

The idea is that a higher self is a self existing being that you are a part of. Becoming immortal is akin to individualising and becoming a higher self in your own right. Think aout mutliple incarnate people dieng and joining into the same higher dimensional being. Like how people are shards of deities. those deities are the higher self.

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c5d5cf No.869

>>868

Basically a higher self is a sort Brahman that pertains to the individual rather than the cosmos. It breathes out parts of itself which incarnate and inhabit various worlds and systems and then breaths it in again and collects all it learned. When I was first introduced to the idea of a higher self it was seen as an evil act that the only way to escape from is to individualize. Apparently religions are complicit in this movement to prevent incarnates from becoming their own self existing self.

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20153c No.870

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>>861

Disregard this, the Demiurge agents took it with a fake ID that matched the shipping label. Guess it wasn't a mystery phone for me.

I think it both showed up and was taken because of Chaos Magick, I both wanted an escape from this world, and was too afraid to take it and leave. What can I do differently next time?

Captcha related, ugly women are cancer.

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20153c No.871

>>870

Me again, better question, how do I control raw uncontrolled chaos magick?

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824088 No.872

File: 759a4e8612bd219⋯.png (Spoiler Image,7.75 KB,296x94,148:47,download.png)

>>871

I don't know exactly but I suggest binding it into a sigil. Use visualization or automatic handwriting.

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a08e49 No.875

File: 14e010d97483222⋯.gif (Spoiler Image,3.65 MB,368x368,1:1,1.gif)

Hello everyone. Eventually, I landed here out of nowhere and this seems to be a place where some of the "vampires" chill. If I am guessing right, these are the vampires that got the spell from "blood anon". If that's the case, I would like to know a few things.

1. If anyone can energy scan me or something, please do so and tell me what is wrong/right like blood anon did. I want to clarify a specific thing that was bothering me.

2. How do I effectively progress? So far, the only physical skill I have developed is very weak telekinesis. Aside from that, my situation manifestation has been enhanced drastically and I sometimes have prophetic dreams. Some more abilities that are so useless or weak that it's not even worth mentioning. If I were to judge that, it's almost no progress compared to what I expected down the road.

3. How are you doing?

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bdaec6 No.876

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>>875

>If anyone can energy scan me or something

It looks like a simple case of you having found mental stability within the 0D particle. The karma of your environment both mentally and physically should clear away since you yourself are standing on an unmovable mountain.

>How do I effectively progress

Your current position isn't permanent but is still very stable, I'd say do nothing but what you're currently doing. Now isn't the time for movement but for hunkering down. Perhaps start looking inward if you're really impatient.

>How are you doing?

Pic related.

Not Blood-anon desu.

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f694c9 No.879

>>875

>3. How are you doing?

Not much different than you. Together with another anon I've come to the conclusion that this vampirism thing is more or less bullshit and consequently lost my faith in blood anon and all his stuff. Also lost interest in magic and the occult in general. Right now I'm really thinking if I should dive in again or just forget about it altogether. It all seems so meaningless to me.

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6ad5ed No.880

>>879

>It all seems so meaningless to me

My conclusion is that everything is meaningless until it is given a purpose or meaning. Life is meaningless and finding the meaning behind it is a waste of time.

Follow your own dreams and try making them reality.

I guess the biggest enemy is our self. If I set my mind upon something, I'll succeed. But the real trick is getting up and doing something. That's why overcoming

this depressive state is a must do. Hard, but necessary. Yet I fail almost daily at doing so. It's tough.

And whether blood anon and his spell is fake or real, it remains as a symbol that triggered shit the ordinary person wouldn't experience in a lifetime.

Vampirism and all that sounds absurd when I face my own humanity, but this whole thing started with a thread I stumbled upon by accident.

Was it truly just an accident? Who knows? Who cares? I just take that chance and try to do my "best".

>>876

>Your current position isn't permanent but is still very stable, I'd say do nothing but what you're currently doing. Now isn't the time for movement but for hunkering down. Perhaps start looking inward if you're really impatient.

Makes sense. I'll continue to follow my duties until I am free from he chains of expectations. Shouldn't take so long and it's comfortable.

But I am very disappointed by my progress. Honestly, it all boils down to me being too lazy. But I have the hope of finding that one thing that

will catapult me into the right direction.

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edac4e No.881

>>880

Why not try this

>>97

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bdaec6 No.882

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>>880

Lowering your expectations is all well and good, and I believe in this case lowering them will help gain a better grasp of your own situation, but the real goal is for actual progress to be made. Slow progress is still progress. Gaining a rudimentary understanding of where you stand in relation to your goals will give you a better foothold for future growth and movement. You're not paralyzed by uncertainty, and my initial suggestion would be what I would do in your situation. I trust Yuuka enough to guide you properly in case you want to leave your area of comfort.

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b19c4d No.886

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Why are so many occultists & general spiritual people focused on achieving ego-death? From my understanding this isn't merely a dissolution of personality, but the destruction of the very self. Why does anyone want to achieve such a thing? Maybe I'm just getting this wrong or oversimplifying it and not researching enough.

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277ed2 No.887

>>886

You're basically right, but you're not seeing the big picture. Ego death isn't about "destroying your very self", though, it is just that: death of the "ego", which is a false sense of self you have created. The anatta doctrine deals with this. It's not that there is no "self" at all, it's that there is no "self" based on the five aggregates. This is a false idea of yourself you have created, termed "ego". It's the version of you with cravings and desires, and with misconceptions about the way the world works that you cling to despite your limited perception. In order to gain better understanding and to truly ascend, you need this version of you to "die". From there, you can build from scratch and create a better identity without those presuppositions about the world and that doesn't cling to its own prejudices because it has a need to be "right" all the time. Only when enter this process will you begin to understand reality the way it is rather than how you see it, and this is a very long journey for most that undertake it.

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f694c9 No.888

>>887

Good answer. It's only the detachment from the things that you think you are when you are unenlightened but in actuality which aren't you at all.

>>886

However it comes to my understanding that there some especially vile newagers who will take this ego-death to the extreme and actually expect from you to dissolve your very self. They either preach this on purpose or have no idea what they are talking about. It's good that you are cautious and question this. Hopefully now you know better.

>Why are so many occultists & general spiritual people focused on achieving ego-death?

True spiritual people and real occultists are rare even in those "scenes". Enlightened people are very rare. If you have really any potential and wisdom you will generally find that after genuine studies of the matter you surpass "most" of them faster than you'd like and then you are more or less left alone and on your own. This is why you shouldn't be too concerned about most other occultists and spiritual buffoons and their cults/groups.

>>880

>I just take that chance and try to do my "best".

Good words to live by.

>That's why overcoming this depressive state is a must do.

Also true. I admit I'm a deep slump right now and I realize I need to get out and once again return to the magical field. It's always on my mind anyway. To be honest deep down I can't really stop l a r p i n g as a vampire anyway no matter how I try. It has become a inseperable part of me. It has become me. Recently I saw a herd of sheep on a field where there are usually never sheep, and I've been there regularly for the last couple of years. But recently for the first time there were sheep grazing, and they were really noisy. A noisy, stupid-ass herd of sheep herded by a couple of shepherds. Every of those sheeps mindlessly following the herd, yelling for no reason, just eating and making noise. At this moment I realized something. They were mundanes, and I was the intelligent/advanced observer. I could be them or I could be something greater. The herd of sheep seemed like a sign especially for me to see and wake me up from my depression. And no way in hell could anyone choose to become a stupid noisy sheep again. It is impossible to return to that state, I'd rather literally kill myself. So regardless whether blood anons stuff is real or not, I cannot deny the fact that I am not the same person anymore that I was two years ago. I realize that I have come far and changed a lot even if it doesn't seem like this at times. The depression probably came from the last remains of my old self, from the fear to go further and the longing to return to old comfort zones. It is the pain of myself dying. But now the time has come for the last remains of my old self to die and to finally be reborn as another immortal. The age of the vampire god is coming upon me, even if I won't get physically immortal. It's how much of a vampire you are deep inside that counts. Before I fell off the path I had several times the impression that I am basically one "second away from nirvana", or that the end of my old self is drawing near. I had the feeling that my death was approaching and I would either become insane, enlightened or die. I believe this was too much for me and I was too scared to take the final leap so I backed out again and fell into this deep slump.

By the way, do you notice anything of the likes that you have stopped aging or even became younger again? Last year some guys asked me how old I am and I said 29, and they said "Shit bro, you look like 20" then I asked some other people and everyone told that i look really young. Then when I got into the slump I really let myself go, started drinking massive amounts of coffee and fapping again and started to look sickly and old, that's when I tought that the vampire stuff is probably bullshit. But recently I started to take care of myself again and did some basic energy work, cut my hair, shaved and did some fitness and I look like a teen again, at the age of almost 30. Today I looked in the mirror and it almost scared me how young I look. Did you have experiences like that too? I don't want to say the look of youth is because of blood anons spell…but then again maybe it is?

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bdaec6 No.889

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>>886

Outside of myself being naturally drawn towards the techniques of self-destruction, it's effective and a solid method of gaining spiritual attainments. The thing you call yourself is in itself created by you, the ability to destroy and recreate it should be sought out for if one wants to know who he or she is. Here's a video by a guy who talks too much, most likely very useless unless you either have as much intellect as him or have a general insight into what he's talking about without having read any of the material through experience.

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b19c4d No.890

>>887

>>888

>Good answer. It's only the detachment from the things that you think you are when you are unenlightened but in actuality which aren't you at all.

>However it comes to my understanding that there some especially vile newagers who will take this ego-death to the extreme and actually expect from you to dissolve your very self. They either preach this on purpose or have no idea what they are talking about. It's good that you are cautious and question this. Hopefully now you know better.

It is my understanding that everything that can be seperated or changed from yourself, isn't part of the self. So your body, personality, memories, feelings. Basically everything you lose with reincarnation and perhaps some more (or less in certain cases) until only consciousness (or sentience) exists. That is the aspect that I always had the impression of that they're trying to kill, the consciousness and the very self that is essentially you and always remains. Which is why I thought that they were insane.

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f694c9 No.891

File: 77626ff7ae710cb⋯.webm (2.85 MB,720x404,180:101,air_ocarina.webm)

>>890

It is the very same understanding that I currently have.

However…

Even the parts that are not your true self…don't kill them. Detachment from them and realizing that they are not you is enough. They still might be important tools for a coherent, good existance. Probably not so much the physical body but at least the soul which is the astral body and holds a lot of stuff that makes up the current you. Nobody knows what kind of existance the truest and purest you is, it may be not as awesome as you think. This is why I believe upon attaining immortality (enlightenment, Gnosis), you should transform your soul into your true self so that it becomes an eternal part of the real you and you can keep on existing properly as long as you wish. This vampire thing we are talking about is supposed to transform even your physical body but I'm still not too sure about that. My point is that detachment and realization is good but also don't forget that even things that are not you might be important and needed. You can keep whatever you like about your "ego" and your false self, just be aware about it.

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b19c4d No.892

File: 317f6953e339046⋯.gif (1.41 MB,329x185,329:185,8965735.gif)

>>891

>Even the parts that are not your true self…don't kill them. Detachment from them and realizing that they are not you is enough.

Thanks I'll keep it in mind.

>you should transform your soul into your true self so that it becomes an eternal part of the real you and you can keep on existing properly as long as you wish.

This has already been realized in a past incarnation. All that is left is to return to it. That said while that part is immortal or permanent in the soul, it's still not true immortality as for this life I still fall within reincarnation. So both objectives in that regard for are to return to that and also move outside of reincarnation.

>This vampire thing we are talking about is supposed to transform even your physical body but I'm still not too sure about that.

Good luck with that. Not too interested in physical immortality myself. Why are you?

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bdaec6 No.893

>>891

>Even the parts that are not your true self…don't kill them

Your past lives and the history and record of your cultivation should remain with you after you've moved on, without that you'd only be left with ignorance rather than knowledge. Death is a false god.

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edac4e No.895

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>>892

>This has already been realized in a past incarnation. All that is left is to return to it. That said while that part is immortal or permanent in the soul, it's still not true immortality as for this life I still fall within reincarnation

Some of us realized our current life and a number of the past ones were performing in projection from an immortal body achieved in the past, somewhat like the monks said to do this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-31125338

This example is said to be one of those who went into meditation and then reincarnated elsewhere, meant to return and wake up sometime later when their detour is finished.

This does not seem like the actual situation here tho as the body was preserved in it's exact state in an inaccessable place with too little energy to return there as a real undead at once. Of course we do not know if there is any standard procedure for this or what terminology is to be used. There's been that one pic posted on /x/ saying Jesus is a lich because that is the correct term for someone who died and came back in body, but the fictional description of the same thing recently calls this a vampire. Now he only needed 3 days to come back, according to legend but there is nothing saying this is the normal way of doing it, or that he even did it in only that amount of time. He could have abused the timelines to reincarnate in prehistory to then come back just in time and missed it by three days.

It's all a matter of perspective.

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1195d6 No.897

>>888

>By the way, do you notice anything of the likes that you have stopped aging or even became younger again? Last year some guys asked me how old I am and I said 29, and they said "Shit bro, you look like 20" then I asked some other people and everyone told that i look really young. Then when I got into the slump I really let myself go, started drinking massive amounts of coffee and fapping again and started to look sickly and old, that's when I tought that the vampire stuff is probably bullshit. But recently I started to take care of myself again and did some basic energy work, cut my hair, shaved and did some fitness and I look like a teen again, at the age of almost 30. Today I looked in the mirror and it almost scared me how young I look. Did you have experiences like that too? I don't want to say the look of youth is because of blood anons spell…but then again maybe it is?

Yes I noticed that. A friends remark about how I didn't change over the years at all. But I am still "young" so that doesn't count for me right now.

At the start of this year, I fell into a similar destructive state and looked like shit. This reoccurs every now and then and is followed by a very happy and virtues mood

for some time where I am completely confident with myself. It's a weird trip but nothing too bad.

Aside from that, there's a very clear indication that I developed a disease resistance. Maybe it's from the spell, maybe it's from my meditation and practice,

but whenever I feel a sickness coming up, I sit down and wish it away. Worked like a charm for a year now. Before all that, I got sick pretty often.

Meditation should really be a necessity in schools.

>>892

(not the one you asked, but I'll chime in)

>Not too interested in physical immortality myself. Why are you?

I currently don't have the skill to see what's truly behind death. I can only act from my physical form and my mind. Until I am not able to

breach that barrier, I wish to stay how I am in this moment for the time needed to accomplish that breach without necessarily dying because of my body rotting away.

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f694c9 No.899

>>892

>Not too interested in physical immortality myself. Why are you?

Back then my unenlightened self tought it would be pretty cool if it worked out, at least one hundret times better than my boring ass empty mundane existance which only lead into a dead end. At the same time I didn't really believe it was real anyway and I just challenged it for fun to see what would happen. Also this >>897

At this point I believe it was a higher wisdom that called me to partake in it in order to advance my own evolution. I am still undecided about whether physical immortality is a good thing or a shitty thing. I cannot see the full consequence of it and cannot judge it, but I'd choose physical immortality over death and complete dissolution any day if you know what I mean.

>>897

>I developed a disease resistance.

>whenever I feel a sickness coming up, I sit down and wish it away.

Seems also true for me. I still feel it coming but like you said I just wish it away and do some energy work with the energy healing my entire being and it goes away the next day. At the same time however I seem to have become more sensitive to "sins". By sins I mean things that damage your body and/or your soul. I don't believe those things do me more harm now, I merely am much more aware and sensitive of them so naturally I suffer more from them than regular mundanes who are ignorant and don't feel the detrimental effects of sins at all until it's too late. Because of that it may appear that a mundane can stomach sins better than than me but that's not true. It's just like a mundane is being hit with a crowbar and he doesn't feel pain so it's kinda alright for him, the damage to his body is still done regardless. But when I get hit with the crowbar I can actually feel the pain so because of that pain I am aware of the damage coused to my body.

The sins that are most obvious to me are alcohol, fap and exposure to sunlight. Even one glass of wine or one beer, I just feel how it weakens me and how it's bad for me. Same with fap, even with techniques like egyptian orgasm or taoist "injaculation" orgasm it still feels like it drains and damages me. The only way seems to just not fap at all and be completely celibate. It's almost like I can feel the stuff that's going on in much greater detail than before, therefore easily noticing damage and how it weakens me. Another example would be a mundane who is deaf and doesn't hear a very loud noise, but I have enhanced hearing and the same loud noise can hurt me.

Sunlight is energizing and healthy only for a short time once in a while, and it becomes annyoing and uncomfortable, almost painful way to fast. I can feel how unhealthy the sunrays really are on the skin, but really on my entire being. And yes sun is defintely unhealthy in large quantities and over long periods of time, accelerating the aging of the skin/body and eventually even causing cancer and weird spots on the skin. A lot of mundanes don't feel it at all, until once again it's too late. But I feel it, just like with other "sins" the effects for me seem magnified and I know that I am not the only one when it comes to the sun because I have read in some book that vampires generally avoid the sun because they, being much more advanced and aware than regular humans, can feel the damaging effects very clearly. I also get states of depression and anxiety when it's sunny weather and, what a relieve it is when it get's cloudy again. When the weather get's bad and the sun isn't out I am immediately healed and in good moods again.

Since we seem to be on a similar level right now it wouldn't surprise me if you had experienced something like that too. Let me know what you think.

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9f3ce5 No.915

>>899

I can understand what you mean with some things having a more damaging effect on yourself. The sun especially is something I enjoy in tiny amounts because of the reasons you mentioned. I only go out for walks in the park on dawn and dusk because I get too exhausted with full exposure for a little bit of time.

Fapping is a very weird problem at the moment. I really enjoyed it when I was a kid and teenager, and that's not too long ago, but now that drive for it is extremely rare and when I fap the pleasure is almost completely gone and I feel

like having a little flu for some time afterwards.

I cannot drink wine because I get a cold feeling afterwards, but beer, although I drink very rarely, isn't a problem.

The biggest problems all come from myself and that's really the hardest challenge so far. It's like a choice I have to make when I wake up: Be productive or enjoy life. If I don't balance those I get into trouble. That's probably something every person has to face, but this really hit me hard the last two months.

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f694c9 No.916

>>915

>Be productive or enjoy life.

If you are so inclined please explain what you see as "productive" and what you see as "enjoying life" at your own leisure.

I need help with understanding something about energy. From an enlightened perspective time and space aren't actually real and you can supposedly absorb energy from a person just by looking at them from a distance. Also you can supposedly absorb their energy just by thinking about them and imagining them. It is even said that you can absorb energy from the past because the past doesn't exist, it exists only as an illusion from the limited human perspective. Now mixing this all together, wouldn't this allow to absorb energy from a person that you see only in video? And not even a live transmission video but a video on youtube for example that is 10 years old. Watching a video about a young, energetic person giving off a lot of energy. You would be able to feel that energy and absorb it, even if in present time the person is already older and doesn't give off so much fresh energy anymore. Or watching a video of a nature landscape, would you get nature energy from video?

Depending on how this is answered or if at all, I might have a follow up question. But I'd like to clarify this first.

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3f0ccb No.917

Does anyone have advice for how to properly learn how to meditate? It's clearly a necessary skill for any kind of magic, but I haven't been able to figure it out in the slightest.

I've read all kinds of stuff about theory and practice, but I'm pretty much stonewalled out of all of it because the first step is usually something like "find your center" or "clear your mind" or "meditate to enter a trance state". The typical advice I see for learning to meditate often mentions things like "observing your thoughts", but I don't know what that's supposed to entail.

Trying to just sit still and "think of nothing" has always been fruitless, and trying to do it lying down just results in me falling asleep for a very brief moment, more like a quick lapse of consciousness than an actual sleep, but it never makes me feel refreshed, energized or clear-headed or anything like that.

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b19c4d No.918

File: b88582318bb0b42⋯.jpg (54.83 KB,871x1024,871:1024,5805dbe06139d4ecb0e62f045e….jpg)

>>917

>"observing your thoughts", but I don't know what that's supposed to entail.

Forgive me if I have this wrong because it's been a long time since I had this myself, but the typical person has a lot of thoughts going through their head all the time without control, right? This simply means to not participate in those thoughts, just let them run their course while you become more aware of what is actually going on inside yourself. Becoming an observer of yourself.

>Trying to just sit still and "think of nothing" has always been fruitless

It's not easy to be succesful at that completely at the start. When I started out I focused my attention on my breathing, specifically when breathing out. Try to sit somewhere for a while with your eyes closed and focusing on your breathing, specifically the sound of breathing out. When you manage to focus completely on it then when you feel you're done you'll notice how quiet your thoughts are. When I started out I never followed a guide or anything so just speaking from my own experience here.

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f694c9 No.919

File: 64c8c252b1d4754⋯.gif (6.47 MB,500x281,500:281,harshrealityoflife.gif)

>>917

>first step is usually something like "find your center" or "clear your mind" or "meditate to enter a trance state".

>Trying to just sit still and "think of nothing" has always been fruitless

No no no no, you should just calm down in one min or so and then work on a specific goal that you have set yourself. Forget about just thinking of nothing or entering trance unless it's your specific goal. I meditate while walking in the forest and get some of my biggest insights that way. Some of it involves intense conversation with myself (at least I think t's myself, who knows wheter I'm actually having telepathic discussions with someone else).

The point is that if you made your meditation goal to be focussing on your third eye, then just go and do that as good as you can. If your goal is to visualize something, then visualize as good as you can. If your goal is observing your thoughts and creating an empty mind, then focus on that. If your goal is to relax and enter a trance state for whatever reason, then do that. relax, breath easily and do nothing. With some experience trance can be entered very fast or even immediately, and can also be entered when you focus on some things that require a very narrow focus of attention. I notice that I enter in trance when playing a certain type of videogames.

Just pick your goal, position yourself comfortably and go on about doing your goal. vereything else will follow. Don't pollute your mind with finding your center or achieving some trance state first. Don't expect any results and don't expect anything to happen, focus only on the meditation that you have chosen. Usually you will find your center and the trance state automatically. Don't even need to sit or lie down. Just try walking somewhere with eyes crossed, that's a type of meditation which can lead to your mind being empty. But watch out that you don't trip or sth like that. Or imagine energy coming from nature or from space and you visualize it forming into balls and orbiting around you. Everything can be a meditation, it's the work on your goal that matters.

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bdaec6 No.921

>>916

>Now mixing this all together, wouldn't this allow to absorb energy from a person that you see only in video

I think this is less a question and more an asking for confirmation. From my understanding of how energy works, you're less likely to be absorbing the energy from the person during the time of making the video, but recreating it using your own impression of what his energy really is. I'm not rejecting the idea that time isn't as salient as people think, I have doubts over whether the energy is truly being taken, or if this idea has any relevance in terms of benefit or detriment. Most likely you'll be taking ki from mundanes, and I see no benefit in that. Ki-level energy doesn't belong to a single person, it's part of a much larger process. Mundanes who live off of ki are a small part to a much larger structure and rather than believing that ki is owned by anyone it's more accurate to say that the ki owns the average person. Since ki is external to a single person trying to cultivate and amass it will only weigh you down in the long term.

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f694c9 No.922

>>921

>I think this is less a question and more an asking for confirmation.

Both. I'm trying to understand how energy works. Now hear me out, the reason why I'm even posting this is because I believe that I get nourished by foreign energy when I watch japanese idol girl videos. I am mindfull on what makes me feel certain things and how energy affects me (I'm very sensitive now) and I noticed that it's almost the same as when eating energy from real life girl. I used to watch a lot of Japanese movies and game shows and when I ran out of stuff and got bored I decided to check out some (old) idol videos. And it hit me almost immediately with that pure exhilirating girl energy. Where does it come from? From the people, from the video? Or do I indeed create it myself. I want to know what exactly is going on.

Btw I almost never farm energy from people so you can rest easily, but in the very rare occasions that I do I only farm girl because it's tasty and boy has an almost repulsive feel to it. Maybe it's because my own male energy is better compatible and balances out well with female energy. Those idol videos are almost the same. If you say that it's bullshit and I'm merely deluding myself and in reality I don't get any energy from videos at all, then alright. That would solve my issue and I could live with that.

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bdaec6 No.923

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>>922

Speaking from my own experience, interacting with others or with different environments allows for the creation of new ideas or life, ideas which a single person might not be able to come up with, so this

>Maybe it's because my own male energy is better compatible and balances out well with female energy

Would make sense to me. Besides this, I think it's obvious that the energy you see when watching old videos comes from the girls themselves. I have no way of knowing as of right now whether it's created energy from you, an interaction of your mind with the visuals (and energetic visuals) on the screen, or if it's literally energy given to you, or if that really matters at all. It's probably both.

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7563f0 No.924

File: 4b34702db81ab57⋯.jpg (159.09 KB,850x536,425:268,flag.jpg)

New to this board but I came here because I am one of the few people who believe in Gensokyo.

I lurked a bit and I have a question.

Out of everyone, why do you follow Yuuka?

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bdaec6 No.926

File: 935b8c58df026d3⋯.jpg (190.4 KB,1280x1600,4:5,da0edb29006a0e631896000ad4….jpg)

>>924

She has the greatest understanding of the symbolism involved and she's the strongest one available. /sunflower/ isn't about strictly following her, but she does guide and lead the userbase towards directions that would be best for development, according to her. It might be best to ask Yuuka yourself if you want to know about the symbolism and what she represents as the mascot. She's not the strongest, or the kindest, almost all of the "ests" she's not. But that doesn't really matter in this situation.

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5248f4 No.927

File: 284947897c8b48a⋯.jpg (414.62 KB,1200x675,16:9,75256395_p0_master1200.jpg)

>>926

She is very intelligent in this subject yes, but the reason I asked is because some things struck me as odd.

First of all she is very close if not the strongest of all youkai so I would consider everyone on this board very lucky if she actually guides everyone on this board.

I actually look up to Remilia more myself but it would be nice to talk to Yuuka as I have a lot of questions and I do like her.

Also I think that this 'Gensokyo' that Yuuka is sending people to is one that she created herself as she is very experienced in dreams and fantasy. Only true psychics can actual visit the real Gensokyo. Only a very select few people has done the deed. Do you think that I am correct about this?

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bdaec6 No.928

>>927

The structure of gensokyo itself is more complex than anything Yuuka can make in my opinion. There's also a general procedure that might have to be followed in order to enter gensokyo, following that will make it easier to enter it.

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5248f4 No.929

>>928

She doesn't need to make an exact replica though, maybe it's a dream Gensokyo or a practice to get some of the best psychics here ready for the real Gensokyo

I can't even say that she couldn't make her own Gensokyo with 100% certainty though since I am quite knowledgeable with how Yuuka is.

I'll try my best to contact Yuuka, but if you can maybe you can ask Yuuka yourself, and hopefully she'll be truthful

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bdaec6 No.930

>>929

Yuuka being capable of creating illusions is something that has been brought up before, it was believed to be the same as what you're saying. It's another method of bringing a desired result, the actual method used doesn't matter here.

"Separating the body from the experience is something illusionary and basic." Is what she replied to me with. Yuuka herself technically has two bodies, that's something I noticed when examining her, so none of this surprises me. Just hanging around the Temple is enough to bring Yuuka out if she wants to interact, the first time I interacted with her was along this line. I forgot that Yuuka was the one guiding the posters here, and I noticed a green haired lady in a checkered vest sitting within the gazebo. She taught me about spell cards after showing me a card of what I look like to her and asking me to make one for her. I left after she taught me the general method of spell card creation, and only after leaving did I realize it was Yuuka.

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5248f4 No.931

>>930

Yuuka does indeed have two bodies, surprisingly you were the first to mention it.

Now I'm very interested in actually doing this. I'm more of an individualist so joining groups is a hard thing to do for me, but this might be worth it.

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f694c9 No.934

File: b3389124fa6d61f⋯.jpg (172.87 KB,1280x1742,640:871,mirror.jpg)

When you look inside you can see the truth about everything, it is revealing and guiding.

But most important is that when you look into the mirror you can see your true self inside.

Vampires are supposed to have no reflection because they are already whole and complete, one with their spirit/higher self. Meanwhile humans are still fractured and can see their other half in the mirror. I think it would be more accurate to say that vampires either have no mirror anymore or are the mirror themselves now but I guess that's just minutia.

Most mundanes never find the mirror. Those rare wizards and seekers who find it look inside and see everything revealed until they encounter their true self and become enlightened.

Is the mirror a viable metaphor for the higher self or the spirit? I've seen mirror or sometimes "looking glass" being used in some occult literature and spiritual inspired media and couldn't at first properly understand it but if I'm right it would put things in a new light.

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bdaec6 No.942

>>934

My view of it is that vampires literally lack the capacity for self-reflection. The reasoning for this has been discussed before, it's related to the 5k spike and the refusal to move beyond a certain way of thinking, but the most prominent one in my opinion is that vampires do feel the weight of sin more easily than mundanes. Looking at yourself and inspecting yourself will only bring self-doubt, and that could've led to destructive, and ultimately negatively affecting, behavior for the vampire. There's been a lot of tools made to correct this behavior. If you've interacted with the matriarch before and disagreed with her on something it should still be somewhat apparent. Other vampires who really don't care will still have this kind of thinking.

> I think it would be more accurate to say that vampires either have no mirror anymore or are the mirror themselves

People with asperger's live within their own image of the universe. And the idea of vampires being the true autists is cute. I'm pretty sure that's true.

>Is the mirror a viable metaphor for the higher self or the spirit

There's a literal mirror within the mind of every human, Li Hongzhi talked about this in Zhuan Falun.

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277ed2 No.946

>>942

How do y'all know if you're a vampire or not, and why do you contrast vampires with mundanes as a whole as opposed to, say, ordinary "psychics"?

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bdaec6 No.947

File: 8f75ccdf771a351⋯.gif (727.17 KB,254x401,254:401,8f75ccdf771a35191d9f55600d….gif)

>>946

The major differentiation is the creation of the 0D particle. Ordinary psychics don't have this, and their method of cultivation and progression is different due to this fact. The simple differences for the vampire is one, the access to the matriarch's egregore, and two, the removal from the wheel of reincarnation and the forcing of the vampire to use his or her own thinking to solve problems rather than relying on outside forces. It isn't psychic vampirism.

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b2b572 No.950

>>946

It’s a failed ERP. I’m one of the “originals”. It doesn’t do shit.

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bdaec6 No.951

File: 69d028d284adc40⋯.jpg (631.37 KB,1050x1280,105:128,b7bc143614daadf6ac817ae12a….jpg)

>>950

Fundamentally the only real and tangible difference is a slight change of mindset. If you feel it or not, that's entirely up to your sensitivity. There's no longer any obligation to concern yourself over it. Perhaps consider it the natural scenery of /sunflower/ if you like.

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f694c9 No.952

>>942

>My view of it is that vampires literally lack the capacity for self-reflection

That's a view I haven't considered before. Definetly something to think about.

> If you've interacted with the matriarch before

I haven't had the pleasure yet but I can't quite get into telepathy in general.

>>947

>the access to the matriarch's egregore,

Wait a minute, what if after I create the zero particle and become immortal I won't get accepted into the cabal by the matriarch and won't get added to the ergregore?

Will I be alright?

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b2b572 No.954

>>888

If you get swallowed by the nonsense of Blood anon's "spell" (it's not even a real spell) you will get swallowed by despair. It happened to me too.

I look young nowadays because I use the sun and fapping for energywork. There are no rules about how to approach your ascent, and your body as well as your mind will be shed at the end of your life as it always has. This has been the plan since before you were born, planned outside of spacetime, and you wouldn't have been born if it were even possible for you to become physically immortal. The very concept is nonsense once you understand life and death.

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d99baf No.960

Is there something more to the silver tray than just linking together ? I get the feeling it causes some kind of "desensitization", but I'm not sure that's the right way to put it.

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edac4e No.961

File: 204f21c0545db61⋯.jpg (4.13 MB,2480x2480,1:1,lolibooru_211551_eyebrows_….jpg)

>>960

>I get the feeling it causes some kind of "desensitization"

If you're really sensitive maybe, but it's not intended. This is a safe version of a much stronger artifact which caused some rather unpleasant or scary side effects when first tested for group sessions. It wasn't a good idea to spread that since it would most likely cause negative rumours and reactions.

What's left here is the "epic romance" aspect, a faint feeling of the cultural sentiment of the late 1800s. Maybe it can feel that way to some people.

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b2b572 No.963

>>951

I don’t concern myself with it in the least. I just wouldn’t like this board to become obsessed with it like meguca was to the point that all new users and conversation disappeared.

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b2b572 No.964

>>960

Well consider what linking with others entails. You are going to get your energy changed by the process the same way it happens when you spend a lot of time in a room with other people.

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bdaec6 No.965

>>963

Consider writing a post about the dangers of the "spell" and tell others about it's negative effects, if it has any effects at all. Point out Blood-anon's methods and where he's at fault as an occultist if the spell doesn't interest you. Constructive posts should invite discussion. Not on a topic that interests you in this case.

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f694c9 No.968

>>954

I'd make similar posts to this one when I'm in a slump.

>as it always has.

>This has been the plan since before you were born

Seems like you got scared and are trying to run back to your old crumbling comfort zones.

When you encounter despair then realize that's a perfectly normal thing to encounter on your path to immortality. It has nothing to do with blood anons spell. Didn't even the buddha face the most horrible demons when he sat down under the boddhi tree to attain enlightenment? You have to push through it and even if you fall to the ground, eventually get up again and go even further than before. Also in the end immortality is in your very own hands (even if it's not physical), regardless of whether you got some spell or not. It's how far you are willing to go to make it happen. Who cares about plans for you from outside of space and time, you make your own plans right now that transcend space and time. You have the fire inside of you that has the power to transform you and break free from maya and the cycle of reincarnation.

Work harder, pal.

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b2b572 No.969

File: 76a24cfd9e5504c⋯.jpg (13.47 KB,474x266,237:133,iu.jpg)

Sigh. Here we are talking about this nonsense again. This will be my last post on this subject here.

>>965

I think you misunderstood me. There is no spell.

There are no negative effects because it's not a real spell. The only negative effects I can think of is the fact that people tend to obsess over it and it hijacks all conversation. I realize I'm guilty of this myself, so that's why I won't respond to any more posts about it.

>>968

Again, I think I didn't explain myself properly or you didn't understand me in any case. I am already immortal. I am free of the cycle of reincarnation. I was before I found the first thread. I came here because I wanted to. Even blood anon pointed out (he is a very good seer) that my energy was the most similar to "actual vampires". Perhaps some of you are as well, but your mind wouldn't necessarily know unless you connected and merged with your immortal aspect.

>as it always has.

>This has been the plan since before you were born

I was talking to a mortal here. If I was talking about myself I would've said "this has been my plan all along". In your case, you could say it was god's plan or something.

When I'm done here I will leave my body, I will "die" in the eye of mundanes. I will also leave my mind behind, because I don't need it and I don't need its simplistic system of memory storage. In other words I will "die" a second death in the eye of neophytes and initiates.

Here blood anon was misleading in explaining *why* the spell was needed; memories do accompany you from one life to another, but not in the form of brain memories, which are mostly useless for real growth. Sometimes you can be blocked from accessing that information and your mortal self might stumble around until this block is removed, but once it is, you know it had to be so.

But I am indeed immortal, and I can do whatever the fuck I want, either within or without space and time (if one could even talk about "doing" outside spacetime lol). I could remain incarnate for a million years or croak tomorrow, possess your dog and fuck you in the ass. Everything is possible.

What a beautiful post. Anyway, as I said, enough about this bullshit spell. This thread is for questions and answers. I will refrain from posting about this topic unless it's for answering a question that should be answered. I wish you well, mortals.

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f694c9 No.974

File: d6e279b67873f74⋯.gif (470.63 KB,245x130,49:26,gandolf.gif)

>>969

>possess your dog and fuck you in the ass. Everything is possible.

You seem to have a somewhat inflated ego, bigger than I'd consider healthy so I'm not interested. However, if you could possess a cute girl…moreover, a japanese idol which I consider the creme de la creme from mundane women that would probably convince me.

Also, I don't have a dog.

If you feel like it, tell us your story. How and when you got immortal, and what your technique was. It will be helpfull for fellow seekers who also reach out for immortality. Consider this as a question so that it may fit into this thread.

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b2b572 No.975

File: 67032f85088cbc5⋯.jpg (275.3 KB,1200x900,4:3,iu.jpg)

>>974

>how and when you got immortal, and what your technique was

OK. But keep in mind you will not understand it, and will swear you actually have. So you will misunderstand it. But since you asked, I'll oblige also as an exercise for myself.

I have not determined "when", or even if it was on Earth or at any time in history that could be referenced from this time period.

My technique began as pursuing magic for material gain. Now, by magic I don't mean getting other non-physical beings to do things for me. Rather, reaching outside of spacetime and influencing energy there. By doing this there is a buildup of a sort of "supra-temporal" ego, or rather than a buildup, there is a link established with an eternal substance that necessarily has to exist forever, being outside spacetime. This makes no sense from a time and word-bound perspective, but think of it as creating an individuated piece of God and a connection to God outside of time from within time. Then aligning with it and reinforcing the connection. It does not matter if it is done through mere meditation or reality manipulation, as long as there is a sort of "moral" coherence with it. This is what Crowley referred to as "true will". At least that's what I understood he meant when reading him, since that would match my experience.

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b2b572 No.976

>>975

This technique is the same one use when incarnate to re-establish the connection between my immortal and my temporal parts. Incarnation has its quirks, much like parachuting into enemy territory, you need a plan to establish contact with HQ afterwards, but it needs to be flexible.

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b2b572 No.979

>>975

>creating an individuated piece of God and a connection to God outside of time from within time. Then aligning with it and reinforcing the connection

This might be the infamous "creating a 0D particle" but I never understood what that is all about, so I don't know.

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f694c9 No.980

>>975

>But keep in mind you will not understand it, and will swear you actually have. So you will misunderstand it.

The hell is your problem?

>Rather, reaching outside of spacetime and influencing energy there. By doing this there is a buildup of a sort of "supra-temporal" ego, or rather than a buildup, there is a link established with an eternal substance that necessarily has to exist forever, being outside spacetime. This makes no sense from a time and word-bound perspective, but think of it as creating an individuated piece of God and a connection to God outside of time from within time. Then aligning with it and reinforcing the connection.

Sounds exactly like the way to become immortal as I have learned it till now from various sources. I think I understand it, at least a little bit, but I will not swear that I understand it because I may be deluded. Even the true resonates with what I have learned so far.

At this moment I believe you are genuine, even if not actually immortal at least you know your stuff.

By the way, I have read a story about someone who more or less achieved immortality in the way you describe spontaneous and when he was not ready and mature enough yet. He didn't understand what happened and as far as I know other immortals didn't also. He is now being mentored by some immortal but still struggles with some things as far as I know. So I totally get that a lot of things about this topic are not to be understood, and I think it's ok not to understand everything.

>>976

>Incarnation has its quirks, much like parachuting into enemy territory, you need a plan to establish contact with HQ afterwards, but it needs to be flexible.

I have learned that some immortals may actually get lost that way and forget themselves again.

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f694c9 No.981

>>980

>Even the true resonates with what I have learned so far.

True will. I forgot to write will.

But now to the real question. Will you possess a girl now or what?

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bdaec6 No.983

File: 1f6af337ae8e5ff⋯.png (132.74 KB,347x329,347:329,abyss_praise.png)

>>979

It's pretty close. The 0D particle can be classified as the sovereign and unmovable state of mind, or really a single thought or aspect of a mind removed from all desire. My suggestion is to think of this thing on the level of a concept and work with it from there. Perhaps you'll gain a stronger view of it, even if it might at first glance look made up.

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c9973a No.985

Alright, here's a question to the user base here for fun: what's the first success you had that you knew for certain was a result of your magic? It may or may not also have been what convinced you once and for all. Just interested in people's stories.

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edac4e No.986

>>985

Being able to pick winning lottery tickets from street stands using a methodology I found at age 10 or so.

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b2b572 No.987

>>985

I don't remember my first because despite every magic book and teacher telling me to keep a diary, I never did.

But I do remember doing remote viewing successfully was "it" for me.

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b2b572 No.988

>>986

>using a methodology I found at age 10 or so

Do share!

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edac4e No.992

File: 33af9372466a2c7⋯.jpg (61.01 KB,640x425,128:85,Tombola.jpg)

File: 10c50c38a8fe38b⋯.jpg (1009.09 KB,2463x2463,1:1,tombola2.JPG)

>>988

First off, it has to be the classic small street stand. If you watch anime you've probably seen the cage one. Where I grew up we had the other one, which contains rolled up lottery tickets. It has to be one of these, because all the tickets are in there, so you are always just one pick away from the winning ticket.

If you encounter the more "modern" version often set up at carnivals or amusement parks with the prizes on the wall behind, don't try. They keep a small amount of lottery strips in buckets and there is no guarantee you'd win even if you bought all of them because those lotteries don't have a finite number of tickets.

What you do is this:

Walk up to the stand and look at the prizes. You have to like at least one of them but be ok with any. Buy one ticket. Open it. If you didn't win, buy one more. You may feel like buying one at a time is awkward for social reasons if you're an adult but kids don't have this problem which is why I found this easier as a kid. Look at the tickets and get a "feel" for them. Buy one at a time, open it. If you didn't win after buying 5, move on. It's possible other people already picked the winning tickets in this stand or it's just not meant for you. Winning at stands could be "predetermined" for other people and you shouldn't try to mess this up. If you do this at all the stands at the fair or whatever location you at at, you will come home with a decent prize.

It's very intuitive so this is as much as I can say.

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b19c4d No.1004

File: 96abb9cd381f99a⋯.jpg (128.21 KB,600x424,75:53,61192610_p0_master1200.jpg)

>>985

The general acceptance of occult came at a young age thanks to the talent of seeing earthbound spirits. The actual acceptance of magic came after reading up on theory for a while and then pulling off something that had a probability somewhere around 0.01% to happen (the chance of what happened can actually be calculated). Something like it with the same chance happened again very recently actually. When you manage to successfully get incredible odds somewhat consistently then it becomes impossible to ignore.

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a66351 No.1021

File: 529924937f8a35a⋯.png (120.51 KB,540x645,36:43,529924937f8a35a8c62ea00c61….png)

>>975

>I have not determined when

Technically there is no 'when', since the true self is a-temporal. Every single life that you have ever had and ever will have, at any point in relative and objective time, go towards the same collective true self, simultaneously.

>>976

>establish contact with HQ

This is why advanced occultists manifest psychic abilities from a young age, and generally life seems stacked up to kick them into delving into the occult, and re-connecting with that immortal self. It's all one big magic spell, conceived and cast outside of time and space, to ensure you'll actually awaken.

It can fail, though, and when this happens people "fall", often inadvertently causing long chains of fallen lives before they re-establish coherence.

>>985

For me it was telepathy and mind reading. Everything else, including physical shit, could be discounted as placebo, group hysteria, etc, by some stuck-up hypermaterialist "skeptic". Once you confirm very specific details about someone's life, mind state, physical circumstances, conscious and subconscious thoughts, etc, with 100% accuracy, that's beyond what even the fedoras can deny.

Though, if it's about personal certainty, I was making energy shields to keep random spirits away since age 6, so I've never really doubted magic to begin with.

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b19c4d No.1022

File: a1cc970f2a9c7fd⋯.gif (1.71 MB,500x600,5:6,pfXYIdg.gif)

>>1021

>Technically there is no 'when', since the true self is a-temporal. Every single life that you have ever had and ever will have, at any point in relative and objective time, go towards the same collective true self, simultaneously.

This seems to be thrown around a lot but so far I disagree with it. Time doesn't work the same way on the astral as it does down here, even so, the idea that every life plays out simultaneously seems incorrect to me. Care to inform why you think this is true?

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b788e8 No.1023

File: 9d89ab896be9c98⋯.jpg (46.99 KB,580x315,116:63,life.jpg)

>>1022

>Time doesn't work the same way on the astral as it does down here

Astral is not the ultimate end point. There is still a state beyond the astral. This is why I like to put it like this:

Physical - Body

Astral - Soul

??? - Spirit, True Self (this is the actual eternal state beyond time and space)

I feel sad seeing so many spiritual people and occultists get hung up on the astral and think that's it. When you reach the astral state you will not be free of time and not understand how time is truely an illusion. Only when you reach the Spirit state will it all unfold before your eyes.

>the idea that every life plays out simultaneously seems incorrect to me.

From the state of the Spirit all lifes are like songs in your music folder. from the first one to the last one, they are all there simultanously. The physical perspective, the mundane one, is one song only which resembles your life. It starts with your birth and ends with your death. Pic related.

The astral perspective is one song after another with reincarnations inbetween. Once one song/life ends the next starts playing. They go in order and even tho past songs and future songs can be accessed and seen one is till trapped in their current life.

The spirit perspectice is that every single song is there and you are not bound to a single one and also not bound to go through them in order. Your most past life, the very first song, and your last/most future life and everything in between are all there at the same time and you can choose to play any of them. None is first and none is last. Just open your music folder and you'll see what I mean. Also pic related. Now you see that all lifes are there simultaneosly, every single moment in every single life is there right now just like every single second in every single song. There is no past and no future.

I came up with this example myself and I hope this helps to understand. Your true self is the one outside, looking at all the lifes which are like songs and can access any of them at any time as often as it wants. Your false self is your mundane persona trapped in one single life, only seeing one song at a time and being bound to going through it from beginning to end.

You can look at it as a giant music album. Every song in the album is one life of your many false selves which they are bound to. Only the true self can navigate through them freely from outside the matrix/album.

It's probably confusing but that's the best example I was able to procure to illustrate the idea that there is only the NOW and everything, every moment and every life is there at the same time as easy as possible. I think it's even much better than my previous MMORPG example "your true self is the player and all the false selves are the game characters"

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b2b572 No.1024

>>1021

>I was making energy shields to keep random spirits away since age 6

I was doing things like that since I was young too, and having astral projections every night and every nap. I used to press my eyes against the pillow and wait for "the pretty lights" to come and fell asleep that way.

I would have a shower and put on cologne to go to bed and tell my mom "I wanted to be presentable to my dream friends" and things like that.

But still, I was a fucking materialist fedora until my Saturn return.

>>1022

As the other anon said, it's not the astral I'm talking about. IIRC Robert Bruce's books go in detail about the astral and higher selves and what's beyond it. David Icke's too, but I found those very boring.

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a66351 No.1026

>>1024

>having astral projections

Never did that as a child, but I would become keenly aware of every spirit around me when I tried to go to sleep. I'd fall asleep as soon as I could, since keeping a bunch of entities away isn't the most fun way to spend an evening.

>fedora until my Saturn return

Brother. Seems like us Saturnians make up the vast majority of incarnated adepts right now. I've seen a few Martian types, but the occult scene is largely dominated by us at the moment.

I think being a fedora atheist early in life serves as another "call back to HQ" measure, since we're more or less bound to violently reject childhood teachings and doctrine around the age of puberty. I was raised a weird mix of militant atheist with pseudo-platonic elements.

>>1022

I think you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. What I meant by that statement is not that lives play out simultaneously, time is certainly linear and well-defined in our plane of existence, but that when it comes to your true self, it is made up of every life, irrespective of time.

As >>1023 put it, the Astral is actually fairly low in the existential hierarchy, but even at that stage you can access people and places in the future or past, since the temporal and physical aspects are weakened and simplified, they follow fewer rules than ours. And as >>969 said, preserving past life memories into your next incarnation is basically useless, as you can access and live those memories out directly once you reach a decent level of development. In addition, all the important stuff- mind management, energy work, etc. are all second nature to you anyway unless you've fallen and lost touch with your true self over a number of incarnations. At that stage, any past life memories would be long gone from wherever you stored them, anyway.

I can count at least 3 distinct anons, beside me, who have a decent level of understanding in this thread. That's fairly rare to see.

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c9973a No.1029

Since the last few posts are about the astral realm, I'll ask some questions regarding that as someone somewhat new to this in practice (I know quite a bit of theory but haven't gotten started yet). I've read about how you could summon entities astrally and see them on this plane using scrying or clairvoyance. Since that's the case, could you not also astral project and evoke or visit entities in the astral realm? Wouldn't that be more straightforward than doing evocations here? As someone who isn't able to get much physical equipment at the time (I imagine that's the case for many these days), this seems like a good solution. It seems you could even create astral temples as a substitute for physical ones.

And while we're at it, can anyone summarize some good ways to astral project? I know Robert Bruce has good books on it, but I'm asking about an explanation that could fit in one or two posts. That would be very helpful.

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edac4e No.1031

File: 56f74b284d1cde9⋯.jpg (133.2 KB,700x740,35:37,483cf8011ddb86d6219a0f33f4….jpg)

>>1029

>It seems you could even create astral temples as a substitute for physical ones.

It's what this board is based on. See:

>>3

>>97

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b2b572 No.1033

>>1029

>sit in a comfortable position that lets you make your whole body limp

>don't move an inch. Let iches come and go. Swallow as you must, but don't focus on it. Let your body do the way it does while you sleep

>do this: https://youtu.be/y8cLhlSuW4w?t=171

>close your eyes and scan your whole body very slowly, imagining it melt, toe by toe, inch by inch. Take your time

>imagine your brain melts, and comes out of your ears

>let your tongue flatten, and your eyeballs sink in your eye sockets

>if you take your time doing this and don't move, you should slowly lose track of your body

>imagine a first person view of the room as if you were standing in the middle of it

>replicate in your imagination your vision, hearing, proprioception and sense of touch (your feet on the ground)

>make it vivid, and hold it

>at the same time, count down from 100 to 0, vividly imagining each number on top of your imagined first person view before moving on

There are much quicker and simpler ways of doing it, but you need to work them out for yourself before they can be of use to you.

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b2b572 No.1034

File: 2f278ba2c4018e2⋯.jpg (552.82 KB,1008x5227,1008:5227,7_hundred_steps_technique.jpg)

>>1029

This is another way. But be careful where you imagine yourself moving towards.

A hole in the ground, a stairway to heaven, a tunel into a mountain, a staircase into the ocean… It does matter where you walk towards symbolically. Have a clear objective before starting.

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c9973a No.1035

>>1031

Ah, yes, that had slipped my mind. Also, I realize I didn't use the right term, I should have said "altar" instead of "temple" to be more precise; IIRC I've read about some practitioners having astral altars to gods and patron spirits. I imagine that is totally feasible as well, I was just wondering if that could be a substitute for physical altars, or if you should ideally have both.

>>1033

>>1034

Great, thanks for the tips! I'll definitely try it out.

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b2b572 No.1036

Yes, imaginary altars work. >>1035

You will need a space such as a natural setting or a temple that you have solidified in your mind and can journey into (either vía astral projection or vivid first person visualization).

Then find a spot that is adequate to the deity you want to worship matching it’s correspondences, and build a statue to it. Say out loud or hear vividly in your imagination an incantation to consecrate the statue to this deity so it may inhabit it. Then you can start making offerings to it. Treat it as a physical altar. Be regular and keep it in good condition. But be grandiose both with its construction and your offerings. You don’t have physical limitations there. It should cause a reaction of awe in you.

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b2b572 No.1037

>>1036

But for this you should have experience astral projecting/journeying first, and possibly do some physical devotional work first. There are certain feelings and small things that cannot be explained that you must “get” through experience.

Don’t be discouraged if nothing seems to work. Fake it till you make it and adjust whatever you do to your experiences until you get something that works for you. Simply following instructions won’t work.

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b19c4d No.1038

Anybody willing to tell me more about astral parasites? For reference: had/have issues with emotions and thoughts that are opposite to what I want, this results in me trying to fight it off in my own head a lot and it wastes plenty of energy and worsens my mental state. Now I changed course and just let it happen without fighting back to not give it any energy and starve it out. Am I dealing with a parasite here?

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edac4e No.1039

>>1038

The concept of "thought karma" may be relevant here. Search for it in Zhuan Falun, the PDF attached to this post:

>>12

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b19c4d No.1040

>>1039

Thanks the thought karma part of it was interesting, that stuff is insidious. However I am unsure that it applies here. The things I get go against my very core and personally it's very obvious that it doesn't come from me. But even if I did give in to it the only person that would be harmed is me, that's why I am unsure if it's applicable here.

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edac4e No.1041

>>1040

You may feel that way right now, but it may turn out later that you were a completely different person in a past life and that what you know of yourself today is only a small part. I'm speaking of personal experience here. What seemed like demonic possession manifesting violent and depraved ideas in my mind was just a past me from a completely different situation. After slowly being able to unite with this hidden side of myself I see everything differently, including contemporary values of right and wrong.

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b2b572 No.1042

>>1040

Relevant:

https://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?pid=32780#p32780

However, do you know how to discern the things you don't want to admit to yourself?

In any case, try not to judge too soon. After all, if these things are coming to you, you can learn something from them. Don't reject, don't accept (in short, don't react). Just observe and learn.

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b19c4d No.1043

>>1042

That short story was interesting and it feels a lot like my own current situation.

>However, do you know how to discern the things you don't want to admit to yourself?

I think so yes, but in this case it's more like being told to kill myself every time I see anything associated with death, to use as an example. It's absurd because I am not depressed nor have any reason to go through with that or think it in the first place.

>Don't reject, don't accept (in short, don't react). Just observe and learn.

Just as in the story, keeping my mind silent is the best approach, and if not that then just don't react as you say, but in the end it doesn't actually solve what is happening, it just treats the symptoms of something.

>>1041

That's interesting and I appreciate the insight and will keep it in mind but it doesn't apply here I'm pretty sure.

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e6ec82 No.1103

I’m currently reading Jodorowsky’s book on tarot, and he designates certain cards, like the world, as potentially carrying the meaning of “manifestation.” What does “manifestation” mean in this sense?

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1ef88a No.1183

Is anyone else getting badly written telepathic broadcasts? Someone has been sending them out over an area with words forming visually, often blurred, with one second per word and no repeat which means most of the messge is lost before I even react.

Happened one time some months ago with someone sending out a question if anyone had seen a certain woman described through more of an emotional situational message placed in the beginning of the message. Now someone sent out something which seemed directed at the meguca /fringe/ group with general imageboard speak and it felt like the sender tried to sound all important and powerful but the needy style of the message (what I was able to pick up, made no sense) ruined it.

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b2b572 No.1184

>>1183

Two nights ago in a dream my father gave me a written article which talked about the sexuality of a certain type of people that was related to something Laura Eisenhower had written about her adventures in Mars.

It was really cool. I think it's the first time I've been able to read so clearly in a dream. By the end of it I was fully lucid trying to read more and more, but I was also excited about coming back to waking reality and looking online if something like the things referred to existed (they don't).

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b788e8 No.1185

>>1183

>Now someone sent out something which seemed directed at the meguca /fringe/ group with general imageboard speak and it felt like the sender tried to sound all important and powerful but the needy style of the message

Maybe it's just a bro from back then trying out telepathy and checking if he can get in contact again with his fellow wizards

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b2b572 No.1186

File: 18f857fa5d17fd3⋯.jpeg (23.42 KB,500x474,250:237,external_content_duckduck….jpeg)

>>1185

>tried to sound all important and powerful

Checks out.

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b2b572 No.1189

>>1177

>>1178

Where are those pictures from?

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b788e8 No.1190

File: 4516dfa9f2e6ba0⋯.png (1.12 MB,692x720,173:180,a.png)

File: 8eacbdaaf95cacf⋯.jpg (151.05 KB,1280x720,16:9,b.jpg)

>>1186

There were some anons who came off as if they have a rather large ego and inflated view of themselves and/or were overconfident in their abilities. Also some seemed borderline schizo. Now some time has passed and the possibility exists that those states grew even bigger.

However, this is not meant as an offense against them. Those bastards were the closest to a family I ever had, or at least a group where I even remotely belonged in. I consider all of them my bros and love all of them in a pure, totally non-homo way.

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f24e64 No.1192

>>1189

Xam'd: Lost Memories

Extremely esoteric and obscure anime series that takes several re-watches and a good grasp of alchemical symbollism to understand. It's a treat.

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8ed6aa No.1193

>>1192

Thank you! Image searches took me to another one called Kokkoku. It’s sci-fi in the vein of Gantz as I’ve seen so far. Nothing extraordinary but enjoyable.

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0641cf No.1205

File: cbb608dfc54cde8⋯.jpg (53.4 KB,570x568,285:284,designed_in_california.jpg)

Hey, gaylords. How do I magic me a full head of hair and a girlfriend?

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bdaec6 No.1206

File: 01d911a873553ce⋯.png (332.52 KB,823x720,823:720,1482542279017.png)

>>1205

Suicide is a valid but often overlooked method.

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f24e64 No.1210

>>1205

(You) don't have to, an eventual incarnation of (You)rself will have those things. The question is whether you'll be any more happy/well-developed under those circumstances.

In this life, you could set your goal to be getting a beautiful, shining, smooth flowing mane, and a smoking hot gamer girlfriend, or developing yourself spiritually as much as possible. Either result is possible, no matter your current circumstances (you could achieve either as a Haitian scurvy nigger), but which one you want to pursue is entirely up to you.

I've posted the methods I've used for my material and spiritual development in the "Magic 101" thread. If you're an absolute beginner, start at >>384 and go from there.

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b2b572 No.1211

>>1205

>get hair implants

>go to gym

>get a pickup coach

>do the work

Magic will help you get the money, opportunities and motivation required. Good luck.

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0641cf No.1220

>>1211

That's gay.

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edac4e No.1221

>>1205

>a girlfriend?

see

>>1050

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0641cf No.1225

>>1221

I think that's a psy-op to make me kill myself. I want to magic a girlfriend.

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bdaec6 No.1226

File: b05d66532c5d033⋯.jpg (43.13 KB,828x720,23:20,ced05e04c21be90f13c8084d33….jpg)

>>1225

Don't worry, it's not a psy-op. It's the first advice you've been given here >>1206. Are you willing to provide more information about yourself in order to get more detailed and relevant advice for the best actions to take for the acquisition of a girlfriend?

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0641cf No.1227

>>1226

I am retarded and don't know any women. Also, I might hate women. They are annoying and don't know anything about video games.

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b2b572 No.1228

>>1227

Then you need to do shadow work and fix your mommy issues.

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edac4e No.1229

>>1227

>I might hate women. They are annoying and don't know anything about video games.

A cat is cheaper and won't yell "rape" if you pet it, get a cat instead. They also don't mind sitting on your lap while you play video games.

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0641cf No.1233

>>1228

No, I think women need to change.

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b19c4d No.1234

File: 7f1f191fbe86023⋯.gif (7.73 MB,943x683,943:683,retarded.gif)

>>1233

Since you accept none of the solutions given here, consider that you're just gay but don't want to accept it. Hating women is pretty gay.

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0641cf No.1235

>>1234

I don't hate boobs.

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edac4e No.1236

File: 4910dd2ec59d0c7⋯.jpg (178.6 KB,508x800,127:200,Remilia_Scarlet_full_15969….jpg)

>>1235

Pleb.

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eb51c4 No.1238

>>1233

Based, we need more people to critique how the genders act.

Though I hate both genders, I will support anyone on changing women if we have similar views on how to change them

>>1234

Cringe, you just want things to stay at their hellish state, I surprised that there would be such a simple minded person such as you here.

Maybe you should go back to fapping on onlyfans.

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0641cf No.1239

>>1236

post bloomers

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b19c4d No.1240

>>1238

I didn't even talk to you and you act like this. Did I hit a nerve?

>Cringe, you just want things to stay at their hellish state

I never said anything about gender relations or the state of society. The rest is just you projecting.

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bdaec6 No.1242

>>1227

Don't get hung up on being retarded. Rather than looking for magical solutions to your problem I'd suggest looking for a more mundane self-help sort of blog instead. I like this guy the most but you get the idea. The short and sweet of it is, work out, eat properly, set up plans/daily goals/long term goals, and most importantly establish meaningful and long-lasting relations with others (ideally family). The last one is the hardest. Finding a girlfriend after alll that shouldn't be difficult, unless your standards are impossibly high. In the end of all that you might think women are gay and aren't worth your time.

https://aeolipera.wordpress.com/

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b2b572 No.1253

>>1242

To this I'd like to add that having a girlfriend is not only about having sex and cuddling (if you feel that's what you're lacking the most, mommy issues).

Having a girlfriend is having someone become part of your family, your clan. Sharing each other's family traditions and growing from the experience.

Having a girlfriend means your mom gets a girlfriend, your dad gets a girlfriend, you get a second mom, a second dad, and so on.

If you don't value that kind of familial life or don't even have the ability to create it, don't look for a girlfriend. Call a hooker.

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0641cf No.1256

>>1253

That sounds like all of the worst things ever.

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edac4e No.1261

File: e1e8abb89cb3508⋯.png (148.6 KB,250x362,125:181,Yami_all_happy.png)

>>1256

That's because you don't think like a woman. Love to her is a result of seeing the opportunity to rise socially and economically through giving herself to a man. Now before any supposed woman on the board starts yelling in trying to maintain the idea of "true love" men believe in; this is something women have explained to me. I'm not basing this on some imagebaord speculation.

I've had this confirmed over and over. Once you start demanding things from possible girlfriends such as them having built up some capital of their own, paying off their debts, fixing their spending habits to match their income level etc, they're no longer "available." That's because you've seen through them. They eat too much, buy too much crap, have too low income to sustain themselves, and they want you to fix all this in exchange for touching their tits. There is, like anon here

>>1253

suggested, a cheaper and simpler way to achieve this. If you on the other hand want a huge mess to handle, get a GF or a wife.

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0641cf No.1262

>>1261

So how do we use magic to change women?

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edac4e No.1264

>>1262

Lurk more.

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0641cf No.1265

>>1264

no. spoonfeed me

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bdaec6 No.1266

File: 2e2121933ef9f1d⋯.mp4 (4.41 MB,562x360,281:180,Skeletor_Bans_all_furries.mp4)

>>1262

>>1265

You'll probably find it easier to look for celibacy if women disgust you, if you don't want to deal with anything that you consider reprehensible or selfish. Asking others for guidance is acceptable only under the conditions that you're willing to improve, otherwise do lurk moar.

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0641cf No.1267

>>1266

What good is magic if you can't use it to change women?

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0641cf No.1268

Or to watch women changing?

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edac4e No.1269

>>1267

You can use it to change yourself. If you are a woman, you can change one of them. Change comes from within.

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0641cf No.1272

>>1269

I want to change them though. They're the ones who are wrong/

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edac4e No.1277

>>1272

Some things should just be given up. Why correct them? They're too far gone. Let them crash and burn, the next generation will see it happen and they'll make sure to not repeat it.

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0641cf No.1279

>>1277

Because I want to be able to get along with and respect women, so that life isn't miserable

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edac4e No.1284

File: ecb403f5ae53ff0⋯.png (47.19 KB,317x614,317:614,Springbok.png)

>>1279

I'd say futile aspirations like that are what's making your life miserable. There will be new women, those who are growing up currently. Focus on leading them right. Forget about the ruined ones, you can't undo their choices.

It's time to end this "discussion" now, the Q&A thread isn't for shit like this.

>>>/fit/ may be a better place to go whine in, they think more like you and can give you advice that you're more likely to accept, I think.

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eb51c4 No.1290

>>1240

Yes you did hit a nerve, I wouldn't have responded if you hadn't.

You are saying that people should just tolerate what women do, that is atleast what you imply.

I disagree with that sentiment.

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b19c4d No.1291

>>1290

Wrong. I said that hating women is pretty gay. If you hate women then you don't want anything to do with them and all you're left with is men, which is gay. Anything else you take from that is your own view. There are absolutely things that women need to change on and you don't have to tolerate it, I agree with that, but hating them as a whole is a waste of energy. This is the last I have to say on it because this is not the place for these kinds of discussions as the user above stated.

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eb51c4 No.1292

>>1291

That's quite a bad assumption, first of what if that person hated both genders by that logic that person would be asexual.

What if that person was a girl? If they were they wouldn't be gay.

You don't know for sure that hating women as a whole is a waste, you should look into more before you come to such conclusions.

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d08cd9 No.1294

File: 118f3f86d86b56e⋯.jpg (70.6 KB,500x461,500:461,118f3f86d86b56ea0081a0205c….jpg)

The hell's this gay shit about?

>>1269

You can use magic to influence an entire gender and you know it.

This doesn't excuse >>1227, your mentality is retarded. Yes, the current living generations of women are borderline nauseating as a whole. That doesn't mean you should mope about because of it. Who cares about women as a whole? The only groups you should rationally care for is your race, your nation, and your church.

What women are like as a whole shouldn't matter to you, just get the one in a million who's tolerable. You can absolutely do this through magic, even with very little skill, but unless you're an actual occult master, no amount of magic will gloss over a shitty lifestyle, physique, and lack of self worth. Improve your life, improve your mentality, and you'll find that quality people will start to gravitate around you, even without magic.

As >>1284 put it, this current generation of women is basically impossible to improve at this point. They won't change their approach to life until their late 40s and early 50s, by which point it'll be far too late.

There's many advanced occultists working to change and improve many areas of society and culture, which will be increasingly visible over the coming decades. That includes women by necessity, and the next generations will be FAR more sane than the shit we're dealing with now.

I've not bothered making any operation on women specifically, but I'll throw that on the list just for you.

Sage for fake and gay shit.

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eb51c4 No.1303

>>1294

Another retard, I can't believe i'm even doing this but you should care about these groups, your race, your nation, your church, and your gender.

What you are is a liar trying to shift the conversation away from women.

You are just defeatist scum thinking that women can not be changed, they can and will, for a better world.

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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1ef88a No.1304

>>1303

All your 4 posts in this thread so far are mundane and negative/toxic. Take a break and come back with a better attitude.

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c9973a No.1309

>>1238

>though I hate both genders

Sounds like you just hate people in general. Don't get me wrong, I get what you mean: women are depraved and men are fools for allowing them to be, but a mindset that's focused upon the things you hate will only end up harming you. Be MGTOW if you want, but don't let what you despise make you lose sight of what matters. Improve yourself and your surroundings first and foremost, instead of trying to change the whole world right away. SIMPs and thots will get what's coming to them.

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b2b572 No.1310

>>1192

This was really something. Thank you again.

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a8aabf No.1414

File: 271e1c4d6b663dc⋯.jpg (31.69 KB,600x378,100:63,vanunu_6.jpg)

>>1310

Always a pleasure, anon. May your path be clear ahead.

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0641cf No.1428

So are we fixing women?

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1e6bff No.1430

File: 460692071954cfb⋯.jpg (104.37 KB,842x623,842:623,460692071954cfb0b1774d7697….jpg)

>>1428

Already happening, friend. If you wanna help, cast your own spell on your local reality subset, it might speed up the process a little.

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7b0334 No.1433

>>1428

Stop it. It has been discussed enough here. This thread is not meant for extended discussions on one topic, nor is this board meant for discussing that at length. Asking once is fine but don't keep bringing up the same topic in the Q&A.

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0641cf No.1496

>>1433

Why do women get so upset about this topic?

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bdaec6 No.1499

>>1496

Women don't want to improve.

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da4d78 No.1539

Alright let's suppose my astral place is set up so far.

Can I fill it with some astral wildlife? It would be cool to have friendly mermaids in the water or some faries in the forest for example. It would be more fun if you were to encounter some elemental or spirit while exploring the place and it wouldn't be so empty. Should I somehow call them or create them myself? The astral wildlife must be safe and friendly towards all visitors and me of course. Having an army of undead lolis living in your astral pocket would be amazing, they would play around but when an intruder or hostile being appears they would act as guardian dogs and mercilessly tear the intruder apart and eat them.

Of course after I share the place with a person or being and invite them they are perfectly safe and can enter as often and for as long as they like. I probably need to figure out some auto-invite for certain groups like vampires, touhous and other friendly beings who can work with me or simply wish to visit the place and hang out. The only beings I don't want there are hostile beings and obnoxious new-ager astral travelers.

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edac4e No.1542

File: fc5264ce3714868⋯.jpg (231.74 KB,920x713,40:31,_ngs_lvor_Nils_Blomm_r_185….jpg)

>>1539

>Can I fill it with some astral wildlife?

All of this is possible, check this example

https://pastebin.com/4b4TBGJJ

A little warning based on what some people do: don't fall into the trap of creating servitors to populate your world, or using them as armed forces. It will leech your mental and physical resources and if attacked it will hit you directly, leaving you possibly exhausted and it can effect your well being irl.

The "right" way to do it is to make your world so stable in its foundation that beings want to stay there. Then create a pact and install a plaque with its terms in a public location, allowing for demons to self employ as your contractors.

The description in the pastebin is for the beginning stages. If you visit the world laid out there you will find the trading post to look more like a mall, guarded by black mall cops. In its foundation it's just an economic zone open to visitors. But random dreamwalkers couldn't comprehend it any other way so it turned into a regular mall. It's really just a large marketplace guarded by hell beasts.

If you have the right mentality you will be able to move beyond the outermost public area and visit the tourist resort by the beach or the pub and inn by the forest. The trees behind the building are specfically tailored to attracts nymphs, you can meet them in the pub. If you want beings like that, you have to create an environment for them.

If you're daring enough you can also go into the misty fields on the road to hell and meet the killer fairies. Pic related.

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edac4e No.1543

>>1539

>an army of undead lolis

Why not check this

>>1298

There are zombies.

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921bdb No.1545

>>1542

The pastebin says "Then you find a spot in the universe that only you have access to. A place that's obscure but feels comfy in some way."

Can you explain how to do that? The only way I know of would be using Sorcerer Tal's sigil.

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edac4e No.1549

>>1545

>a spot in the universe that only you have access to. A place that's obscure but feels comfy in some way

Ok. It may be that the setting here isn't as supportive and deep as where this was spread. You're to use visualization and meditation to find this spot emotionally and in any form you, yourself like. Start just thinking up situations and places and determine where you would be completely safe and be the ruler of this place. It's your world, you make the decisions yourself, so anything is possible.

To me it's just a place "far off to the left side, high up in the sky but still not untouched by the waters below."

>Sorcerer Tal's sigil

Make an original creation, otherwise it won't be your own. If you use the methods from Sunflower, you have to lay the foundation completely from this side first. Did you visit the world mentioned? If you've seen it you should be able to understand what it means.

If you do go there, look for a large square with a sigil in the middle in stone. This is a portal for visiting linked worlds within the succubus pact. You can jump within the network this way, at least for those who allow visitors.

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edac4e No.1550

File: 07541d29f5febfe⋯.png (Spoiler Image,4.63 KB,394x388,197:194,succubus_world_non_aggress….png)

>>1549

Use this to find the network. If you can't get it right because your ability isn't good enough you can mediate on it before bed and visit in your sleep.

The pact can be added to worlds owned by someone with a succubus nature.

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da4d78 No.1552

>>1542

>>1543

Thanks for the replies. Wouldn't even think of population my astral place with servitors. I think I'll wait a little bit and see if some spirits pop up by themselves. Meanwhile I need to work on my astral travel, lucid dreaming and telepathy anyway. I created my place with the carbon rod that I have drilled into the ground until it became diamond and also supported it with my own sigil that I came up with at the same time. Now you have to visualize/dream flying into space and a certain direction before you come upon a certain closed door, then use my sigil to open the door which leads you to my place. But because the place is now bound to my sigil and opened by it I hesitate to share it here because I don't want to share my sigil.

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edac4e No.1553

>>1552

Can confirm from my end that it's solid. If you want beings to go there you have to open it up though. They won't be able to pass it either now with the door locked, unless they're really curious and inventive like some autistic gnomes or something who like to solve puzzles.

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da4d78 No.1554

File: 2ba8b3fa5436965⋯.jpg (18.82 KB,474x474,1:1,NANI.jpg)

>>1553

>Can confirm from my end that it's solid.

How? Did you already go there even tho there is a door and the direction you should fly to is a secret? I only created the door and used the sigil to make the place more solid and create somewhat of a proper "ritual" to enter the place but I tought it would also grant some protection.

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edac4e No.1555

File: 1d0a66a372df283⋯.jpg (539.81 KB,2881x4096,2881:4096,D0FFJDOU8AAfui5.jpg)

>>1554

It may not be so easy for everyone, but it's not a problem for me, I just looked behind you in the direction of the idea you described. What you say and think leave traces. I didn't go past the door because it was locked by I saw some bearded demon outside working on trying to open it like it was a challenge made for him. I just don't think a strategy based on just locking people out is a good idea, they'll find loopholes in your thinking and get in anyway, so better to decide from the start what your terms of entry are.

Don't worry, there are probably at most 10 people around here who would be able to find a place from the person merely posting about its existence, and most of them aren't interested enough to check it out.

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da4d78 No.1557

>>1555

> I didn't go past the door because it was locked by I saw some bearded demon outside working on trying to open it like it was a challenge made for him.

Lmao. Just for the record I don't know of any bearded demon so seeing someone like that trying to come into my place is a little bit weird.

But yeah I shall open it so that beings may come there. I'll try to set it up without any sigil that you have to use. You'll be able to just open the door and walk in. But I still need some sort of door otherwise I have trouble to set-up my own astral pocket. It's like in a elder scrolls game entering a hulding by using a door which teleports you into a different location.

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edac4e No.1559

>>1557

If you look in this pastebin there are a number of weapons you can get copies of and install as sentry guns at your place if you want. Or just leave them in a garrison for mercenaries to borrow.

https://pastebin.com/mUnWWj64

It's located in the Collective world but if you're nice they'll let you in.

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edac4e No.1560

File: 2c9ae945120a6d7⋯.png (4.43 KB,600x450,4:3,Alissa.png)

>>1559

And of course Alissa has a lot of stuff too.

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da4d78 No.1562

>>1560

Speaking of Alissa…

As suggested by Sorcerer Tal (yeah I checked him out too) for lucid dreaming I tried to get made lucid by a friendly being while dreaming. Naturally the first spirit to ask was of course our trusted Alissa. So before sleep I drew her sigil in my mind and asked her to wake me up in my dream so that I become lucid and can talk to her and visit my own astral place.

I didn't become lucid. In fact I don't even remember if I had a dream at all.

Not sure if the problem lies with me or she is just not the right friend to ask for this stuff.

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6da8e1 No.1564

>>1562

Lucidity isn't an external state, it originates and ends in the Inner Being. Asking an external being to help is moot. If anything outside of yourself could make you lucid, you'd have been lucid all your life. Whoever this 'Alissa' is, the most they could do, and looks like they, did, was bring your subconsciousness in an occult setting.

Perhaps your consciousness is so weak even that didn't push you over the event horizon. Practice, friend, and stake away in the dying light.

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da4d78 No.1572

>>1564

So Sorcerer Tal is full of shit too then. What a shame.

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df2c98 No.1574

>>1572

He's not, you were probably in no state to be "woken up".

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da4d78 No.1575

>>1574

I just tried what Tal recommended as he said it. He didn't mention any state I have to be in or stuff like that. Well tell me how to get in that "state" then.

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df2c98 No.1577

>>1575

To get lucid in a dream you need to not be too tired, a deep dreamless sleep is the opposite of what you want, thats why people recommend going back to sleep right after waking up to do it, you need the brain to be able to wake up in some areas while other areas stay asleep.

I recommend doing reality checks, drinking camomile tea a couple of hours before sleep and going back to sleep right after waking up.

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da4d78 No.1578

>>1577

>I recommend doing reality checks

I started doing the sigil thing (inscribe your sigil into the wrist of your astral form with energy and then keep checking if it's there. if you see it, you are dreaming and become lucid) Tal recommended and before I'd also do some counting on fingers and looking at the clock.

>To get lucid in a dream you need to not be too tired

I admit most of the time I go fucked up to bed, and often I only have dreams in the morning when I fall asleep again after waking up. Once I had 3 different dreams in a short time period after I woke up in the morning and went back to sleep again. In that case I of course perfectly understand that no being would be able to get me lucid. I will now try to better myself and my sleep.

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cacd53 No.1582

Alright, I've got something to ask about this stuff. From what I've seen on this board so far there seems to be a lot of emphasis on your mind and imagination as ways of interacting with the astral. One thing I've been wanting to learn is channeling. From what I know so far, when you channel spirits and stuff you're supposed to "hear" their voices in your head or something like that. My problem when it comes to this is that I've always had super-active inner dialogue in my head, conversations back and forth in both language and in "hunches", etc. At this point, if I heard something else speak in my mind, I don't think I'd even be able to tell it wasn't me. I can't really "identify" voices, they just speak. How do you figure this out?

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edac4e No.1583

File: b81fd52106300cf⋯.jpg (598.67 KB,1100x743,1100:743,lolibooru_45937_black_legw….jpg)

>>1582

Using visualizations is a way to get past the

>if I can't see it I don't believe it

thinking, as it means you can always see something if you want to. Someone who has already interacted with something can then give instructions for how to properly visualize it.

You can also easily summon any kind of being by simply creating an image as a request and someone who looks close enough will come to you. The widespread usage of anime characters on this board is for this reason, seeing them repeatadly makes it easier to visualize basic features.

This is for creating an interface in your mind for the external entity to sync with.

>I've always had super-active inner dialogue in my head, conversations back and forth in both language and in "hunches", etc. At this point, if I heard something else speak in my mind, I don't think I'd even be able to tell it wasn't me

The meeting room in the temple is made for these things. Yuuka will always be available there if your intent is friendly, all you need to do is create an image of her in your mind, ask the image something and wait her reply. She can connect you with another entity by calling them to the meeting room.

If you were to do this, you would have to practice visualizations until you can see both her and the other entity of your choice as silent images in your mind.

Channeling is different from telepathy in that you're letting them form sentences word for word, rather than sending you a telepathic compound message. That is what normally happens, they send you a package and your mind unpacks it and you understand the meaning in your own words. For channeling you need to be able to leave a large part of your mind empty since active speech takes more of your attention. But if you do it right it won't take more than 5 min to learn it decently, it didn't take longer for me, although I had used regular telepathy for a long time before that.

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bdaec6 No.1584

File: 43b8a82fe7895d3⋯.mp4 (730.52 KB,480x480,1:1,43b8a82fe7895d37222a879946….mp4)

>>1582

Whatever inclination you've had in making this post, in writing this post and then clicking the "New Reply" button, is probably you. Any voices, leanings, or impulses that aren't this might not be you. Any impulse might or might not be from you. If you like something you're not likely to question it, if you don't you're likely to dismiss it, so take some sort of systematic thinking, either logical or based off of a more emotional framework, to decide.

Don't think, and if any thoughts start coming up, those aren't yours. Unless you want them to be.

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512e04 No.1585

New to /sunflower/

I'm kind of going through a period of depression, lack of drive. I'm realizing there's a lot of hate in the world and it is disturbing to me. What I can do to get my energy level up/shield myself against harmful emotions/other?

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bdaec6 No.1586

>>1585

>I'm realizing there's a lot of hate in the world and it is disturbing to me

Forgive it and focus on yourself.

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cde658 No.1587

File: e4f086471dc319d⋯.jpg (9.7 KB,266x198,133:99,SayNoToSpiritPics.JPG)

>>1583

>the usage of characters makes it easier to visualize

We need to implement spirit iconoclasm tbh.

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bdaec6 No.1588

File: c44976f155439b8⋯.png (18.38 KB,639x541,639:541,engage_neural_network.png)

>>1587

Look towards the top right corner of the screen and you should see text that reads [Options]. Scroll down a bit and there's a checkmark that, when checked, hides any images.

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cacd53 No.1589

>>1583

>>1584

I see, thanks for the tips. One other thing I've seen is that when something that isn't you "speaks" in your mind you'd just "know". Is that accurate? I don't know what the experience is like. If that's how it is could you describe it? What's the difference?

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bdaec6 No.1591

>>1589

>What's the difference?

Expectation and whether or not the logic used behind the thought/speech follows your own internal logic. I've had times when I'd argue against a devil's advocate (not literally, I mean I'm arguing a case for something with something I don't see but I still hear), and I don't have internal monologues in this way. Familiarity with yourself is required.

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edac4e No.1593

>>1587

If you don't want to use methods that work, just don't take part here.

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d8bbf5 No.1696

Does anyone here have some experience with entities that closely resemble angels?

My results with magick so far have been great, but I like the idea of having a friendly spirit

by my side for assistance. I thought about creating a servitor for that purpose, but that's not what I truly want.

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edac4e No.1700

>>1696

Why not go for an actual angel? They've been rather misrepresented in contemporary media so you can probably find one you like among them no matter your preference.

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56da25 No.1729

>>1700

Well, where do I start searching for then? Should I just use the temple and ask?

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4307a4 No.1730

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edac4e No.1731

File: 893466c7201fc0a⋯.jpg (53.38 KB,474x657,158:219,angels.jpg)

>>1729

Try that. The angels I've met have all approached me, after I said I had never seen an angel and I don't believe in what I haven't seen myself. Some of them eventually got provoked by this and decided to show up. It's happened a few times since. I don't actually know how to summon them apart from those who gave me a sigil for them.

>>1730

If you find one on CH tho I can have a look there.

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4307a4 No.1732

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4307a4 No.1733

>>1731

just realised you are not the same anon, what a blunder.

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edac4e No.1736

>>1732

If anon wants any of these he should post which one in the thread for this:

>>1298

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56da25 No.1742

>>1736

I will consider that, thank you.

>>1731

That's interesting because last year, exactly on my birthday and while I was meditating, I had a vivid vision about some angelic

looking being who walked me around a pretty city and introduced itself as a guide of myself.

I eventually decided to discard it as something self induced. It might have been something real because of the sudden nature, but I am a bit vary of visions and telepathy.

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edac4e No.1745

>>1742

Sit down and recall the feeling of the scene which appeared to you and how you felt about this angelic being, then project warm emotions at your mental image of them. If there's someone there this should be enough to attract them.

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afee34 No.1749

>>1745

I tried and honestly, I still think it was a "dream", or me astral projecting into a real time generated environment. It really felt and feels like that.

I'm not sure if I have ever truly experienced communication with another entity. That's because of my poor senses at the moment.

There has been a group of spirits I telepathically interacted with for a while and it seemed real, at least there where accurate predictions about the future. But telepathy is very weird and I don't trust it blindly.

I'll probably go with the offer >>1736, but don't know which one to choose because of several reasons.

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532340 No.1761

Years ago, I meditated frequently and noticed that the 6th chakra (middle of the forehead) started to tingle a little bit, barely noticeable. As I meditated more, this tingling sensation became stronger and also stopped ever fading away. Weeks later, I had the same happening for my right palm and 7th chakra (top of the head), and eventually I had a permanently tingling/itching sensation (cold, stream-like, magnetic/electric/etheric) in these locations: 6th chakra, 7th chakra, spots around my head, both palms. There was also a what feels like a connection between the 6th and 7th chakra.

I was able to amplify these sensations to an overwhelming extent, mere thinking or meditation was also sufficient. Meanwhile, not thinking about it, not meditating, not practising anything esoteric, and ignoring does nothing to diminish it. Bringing palms or fingers to these spots, I can feel them connecting, getting stronger.

My question is, I don't know what exactly I am dealing with here. If you're wondering, though it didn't kickstart anything, it amplified things like astral projections, psi balls, circulating the microcosmi orbit, I was able to do them before. I even felt it all over my body briefly. When I sleep deprive myself, it automatically goes into overdrive mode (very strong sensation, visions, almost instant sleep paralysis/projection).

Does anyone know what it is? Why does it persist when I am not even focusing? What's actually going on and what do I do with it? It doesn't disturb me but it is highly frustrating having no clear knowledge. I have my guesses but I feel alone at this point after consulting esotericists, reading books and websites, practising various techniques (that didn't influence this situation).

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edac4e No.1762

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>>1761

What kind of meditation? You're mentioning chakras so this implies you're doing some form of yoga?

Even if not mentioned in the same way, yoga also opens the energy streams of the body, called meridians in qi gong, and can also go as far as a complete opening and transformation, taoist style.

You seem to have gotten far enough for it to start happening, but the slowless of it is annoying you. I'd recommend trying to make a breakthrough, you may have built up some energy and set this in motion and now it's gotten stuck halfway.

The very much popularized sun salute sequence can open up your body if done with the right mindset. My solution would be to maintain your same meditative state, while doing the sequence 3 times. Then do this every morning before breakfast. It still takes time but I've found this to be very effective and give constantly new progress as a base practice. There are different versions but the positions are mostly similar, here's an example.

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532340 No.1764

File: a8d11ae909cc8b8⋯.png (1.89 KB,275x116,275:116,02.png)

>>1762

>What kind of meditation?

I did cross-eyed meditation where you overlap two symbols into one, also known as training the two halves of the brain to communicate/synchronize with each other. People might know this technique from stereoscopy or "Magic Eye Images" (visual illusion of a three-dimensional scene within the human brain from an external two-dimensional image). One example in the attached picture. Just now, I found some references on cross-eyed meditation and 3rd eye opening: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=635

A "breakthrough" is exactly what I've been seeking since it does feel like something is supposed to happen yet it lays dormant. I even stopped meditating and avoided all esotericism for a long period with no effect.

I can try this. I wanted to restart this type of Yoga anyways and have started stretching.

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d99baf No.1765

>>1764

That's a strange way of doing that. The best way to train your brain hemispheres to talk to each other is learning to play an instrument, specifically a violin.

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532340 No.1766

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edac4e No.1767

>>1764

>"Magic Eye Images"

I had a book with these as a kid, from the time when 3D graphics was vanguard technology.

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a57b47 No.1780

Hello guys I'm new here! Sorry for making such a self-centered questions, but I'm super confused. I found this board randomly, I saw the spirituality tag and I wanted to check it out cuz since I think 10yrs ago I have strange voice and journey like experiences. I don't want to expose my self to much just yet cuz I'm indeed scared of this world. But since going to yoga class, taroth expert, self proclaimed akashic master and even exorcist from Vatican never helped me I want to ask here. Cuz the world they see is not the world that I see. Is actually completely different. In both bad and good way, for sure their magic is significatly more powerful here in the real world but they have limitation, they can't see many dimensions and they borrow power instade of creating it. Well back to the topic I'm not quite sure my self of what I see and experience, people's that have esoteric experience call me a dimensional guardian. In my opinion I'm just a human. But I had many strange experience it all started one day in a friend house. I had a lucid dream of woman asking me of waking up all of my friends before an hour. I was there thinking it was just a dream and no particular reason to wake theme up. But suddenly a window that was cemented to the wall just brake open waking everyone up before the time limit. No not a normal window, there was no way of opening that. So we where all scared hearing strange noise and things like that. Then I suddenly fainted but I was conscious of it and I saw black mountains upside down dripping blood. I was scared and couldn't regain consciousness till an entity just appeared splitting in Alf the vision and making me regain consciousness. In that moment I had so many voice in my head and my left hand was burning. A friend near me asked what was on my hand so I looked at it and there was a bright red symbol of a triangle with 3 dot and a spiral underneath it. When I saw it an entity talked to me and said "you are lucky that on your hand is my art" and after that everything was becoming clear I heard many help request of spirits that wanted to guide me freeing theme. I just listened to their voices, they wanted me just to walk through the whole house anyway. And after that no more weird noises, no more fear, it was all gone. That's when I had the contact with my first entity. But I never heard of the entity that gave me the symbol again. After that I often saw a tower floating in the sky with just one window that was pitch black. And by looking at it I felt the urge to cry from nostalgia and heard a female voice singing. I never reached that tower and after a week it disappeared. So If someone know something about this can he or she please at least tell me if it's real or just mind trick? Ty for your attention. I'll be willing to share more experience in the future if needed

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edac4e No.1782

>>1780

>people's that have esoteric experience call me a dimensional guardian

>I saw black mountains upside down dripping blood

>a bright red symbol of a triangle with 3 dot and a spiral underneath it

>a tower floating in the sky with just one window that was pitch black. And by looking at it I felt the urge to cry from nostalgia and heard a female voice singing.

You've given a lot of interesting details here. All of these are similar to what some other people involved here have experienced or seen in connection to others, specifically the things I quoted are similar. The black mountains and the feeling of nostalgia stand out as something I recognize. There was also what seems like a sigil for the entity contacting you. Could you maybe make a drawing of it?

One thing to keep in mind is that your mental images often appear fantastic when in actuality referencing past events, as in previous lives. But your current mindset prevents you from understanding the situations so they appear that way. Our current world isn't well suited for interpreting these things properly because the past was spiritual in a natural way people with the modern mind cannot grasp.

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a57b47 No.1785

File: ede514e4f06cd69⋯.jpg (1.72 MB,2976x3342,496:557,IMG_20200526_113049.jpg)

>>1782

Brother ty for your time. Here is the "symbol" don't the shape. The real one was "perfect" and every circle was the same size.

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cde658 No.1787

File: 3f5c601290b658e⋯.jpg (18.06 KB,708x101,708:101,f12.JPG)

>>1780

For your vision of the tower, look into the concept of a black mirror, as used in magic. It is often just a piece of glass painted black on the reverse end, but the symbolism is very important. Otherwise, compare your Tower with the pic posted in >>1177 and >>1178. This is a universal, and recurring concept. Compare the Tower with the letter 'I'.

If you're a dimensional guardian, your presence here is encouraging. We've moved our timeline outside of the main attractor field for our dimension, which puts us outside the direct influence of a lot of entities, as well as fate. Naturally you're human, but you're probably the emanation of some ascended being trying to influence things here. To get an idea of who your self might be, as well as your purpose here, you should study your natal chart.

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bdaec6 No.1797

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edac4e No.1806

>>1785

I will attempt to contact them and will get back with results later.

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cde658 No.1808

File: d09c9cbd1c0850b⋯.jpg (227.27 KB,736x1274,368:637,tIwer.jpg)

>>1797

Not even kidding, you can learn high magic by playing Morrowind. Kirkbride encoded perhaps the most complete contemporary metaphysical systems into the lore of a fucking video game.

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a57b47 No.1810

Thank you for investing your time with me. I will make sure to return the help as I can to the sunflower. "help comes around".

>>1806 thank you very much. I'm will W8 for news

>>1797

Those definitely have a resonance with "the tower" that I saw, I'm 70% sure that I saw the white golden one, cuz I felt that it was linked to elf. But still can't figure out why the female voice, she sounded like being held prisoner. :/

>>1787 the black mirror concept definitely have something to do with that. Cuz yes I felt like looking in the infinite and I felt watched back.

BTW I'm going to post something on temple you might wanna read it.

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da4f4e No.1863

What is the end-goal of /sunflower/?

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edac4e No.1865

File: 89ce8f93a93de9a⋯.jpg (54.51 KB,1191x222,397:74,promised_chan.jpg)

>>1863

Moving beyond physical communication methods and creating an astral imageboard or invisible society based on our values, which are different from the already existing such societies. That, and providing a stepping stone for learning the magic of the Collective and other more female dominated groups and worlds, like Gensokyo. There are already plenty of wizard societies on the astral, this one is more leaning towards witchcraft. Although there are also male witches - we're more inclusive than wizard groups who only want men.

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9a506d No.1875

How do I make a sigil that gets stronger the more it is used? would it be safe to just share a sigil like this or do I have to protect it in some way so that someone doesnt change its effect?

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edac4e No.1878

>>1875

Sigils are communicative, the important part is the idea behind it. Is there a specific reason you want to make something that gets stronger with time?

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9a506d No.1881

>>1878

>Is there a specific reason you want to make something that gets stronger with time?

I thought there was but thinking about it again there isnt.

Though it would be a great thing to know about once I get some ideas going.

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da4f4e No.1896

How to create a stable astral body?

What exactly grants immortality in the astral?

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cde658 No.1898

>>1896

>how to create a stable astral body

emotional stability.

>what grants immortality in the astral

nothing, really.

you create your immortality yourself, where you operate thereafter is up to you.

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edac4e No.1899

>>1896

>astral body?

See

>>11

>What exactly grants immortality in the astral?

Check the discussion in the general thread.

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d99baf No.1942

What are the youkai really doing/eating, when they "eat humans" ?

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edac4e No.1946

File: 2f9e27c72c6124a⋯.jpg (579.16 KB,716x1013,716:1013,20200530_173429.jpg)

>>1942

Let me channel Chen for this:

We simply catch them in desolate places and bring to over the dimensional border back to our lands. It is not a pleasent surprise for them (giggle). You may think of cattle like cows that they do not speak and are of lower intelligence so it is ok for you to eat them. When we look at beings we do not determine if they are cattle by merely their species. Someone being able to utter words does not make them -not- food to us. Maybe you wonder why we do not just eat animals? In our view that is what we do. Suggesting to us that we eat cows for example, while that is all fine, why don't humans eat insects on a large scale? That's right, because you prefer cows and pigs. Yokais prefer humans, because we are at the top of the food chain, it is simply natural that we pick off of the ones one step below us… see? There are also so many of them, maybe the most widespread species, so hunting them does no harm to the eco systems at all (teehee).

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bdaec6 No.1947

>>1942

Cannibalism is just a form of magic where you take the sin of someone else, their karma and their "strengths" and incorporate them into your body. In exchange the person being eating gets karma removed. Communion in christianity is about creating that karmic bond.

>>1946

Humans not eating insects is most likely more due to the fact that going around collecting bugs is dumb, when being a nomad with a herd of domesticated animals is more efficient and less time-consuming/a person has more leisure. In agricultural societies, working the fields is more important.

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bdaec6 No.1948

>>1942

>>1947

There's the idea in touhou that youkais were made to keep humans "pure", since the fear that they represent and embody helps keep people in check morally. You would want to follow the rules when there are monsters in the dark.

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421f0e No.1949

>>760

How do I know that this stuff is not demon trap devil trap to send me to hell? I am scared I am being deceived. I believe it exists but I do not know if I should participate in it…

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bdaec6 No.1950

>>1949

You're asking someone else to make a judgement call for you. Read the posts just in this thread and make a choice, if you don't want to or you believe you're not ready go do something else. The esoteric isn't limited to just this board.

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421f0e No.1951

>>1950

Ok thank you. I know you're right I was just shooting shots

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b5c053 No.1995

File: 13538f3f6a59e1c⋯.jpg (261.84 KB,1948x1794,974:897,ftop_ru_140943.jpg)

>>769

you have to read the special pyromancy book

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b2b572 No.2035

Sometimes when I close my eyes before going to sleep, I "see" a small sun glowing light a few inches above my head. What is that?

It's not that I see it literally, but I feel it's there, and if I don't focus on the darkness behind my eyelids I can sort of see the glow.

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bb23e0 No.2038

I've been reading some of the older posts on this board and came across this >>809. IMO it doesn't seem very plausible, I have this experience and I've just attributed it to lack of a focused interest (I'm relatively new to this, so if someone wants to correct me on this feel free), but that's beside the point. What he said about getting a head spirit piqued my interest. In Hinduism there's a concept of Ishta-Deva, your "most compatible" deity, which if you work with accelerates your progress more than any other. There is a belief you can determine this with astrology. There are also things like Guardian Angels which exists in multiple religious traditions. How does one go about determining which being is yours (head spirit, ishta-deva, guardian angel, etc.)?

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edac4e No.2041

>>2035

It's the "solar system" in which every person has their own sun. The sun isn't just what people think it is.

>>2038

I don't know anything about a head spirit but I do recognize having different entities work me on different things interchangably. Most of the time I'm aware of them though, or I tend to think so. Most ideas aren't originating in the person anyway so there are probably other ones I don't know about putting things in my head.

But my situation is such that I already know my path so finding a direction isn't an issue for me. Since you're here I'd recommend making use of the temple and simply asking Yuuka for help with this.

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afb79a No.2042

>>2035

I think that could be one of the chakras above the crown. Possibly related to the higher self.

>>2041

>The sun isn't just what people think it is.

What is the sun?

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edac4e No.2043

>>2042

>What is the sun?

The answer is hidden in the word "solar system" - it's a system. It's not a burning thing made of gas at 8 light minutes' distance from the earth.

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5172f1 No.2047

Alright, I think I had my first Astral Projection today. And it was "interesting".

Despite 8 hours of good sleep, I felt like shit and completely disconnected the whole day.

I think that's because A) I ate a lot of junk food the last couple of days and B) I was heavily focused on psychic training.

This probably lead to the state I was in which in turn triggered this event.

I went for an hour long refresh sleep and set an alarm. Got into bed, meditated a little bit and instantly fell into a semi-lucid dreaming state.

The dream was about me playing a horror game, but it was relaxing. After some time, I noticed that I drifted out of my body, I regained complete lucidity and could feel myself floating about.

But here's the kicker. There was nothing to see and the only thing that happened was some screeching writhing apparently black thing scratching my neck.

I wasn't scared as I knew what my situation was and tried to repel this thing into oblivion. After trying that, I simply drifted into my body and the feeling and sound was gone.

This whole scenario with the dream and the AP apparently took 15~20 minutes.

What should I make out of this? Was this some kind of entity? Why did my action cause me to return to my body?

Could this thing be the reason why I was so damn tired the whole day? I mean, now I feel energized.

If anyone here has serious experience with astral projection, please let me know what this could mean.

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b2b572 No.2050

>>2047

I have extensive experience with astral projection, and what you describe looks like your own expectations of what astral projection was supposed to be.

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b19c4d No.2052

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>>2050

I have only tried to AP a few times all unsuccessfully. I read that you have to be careful not to mistake a lucid dream for AP. Plus of course you have the people that say AP is just a lucid dream all the same and both not real. Anyway do you think this was an instance of mistaking lucid dreaming for AP?

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5172f1 No.2056

>>2050

I had no expectations, or at least I was very open minded and positive about it. So this is not the case.

>>2052

I would personally say that AP AND lucid dreaming are real. Reality even.

If you just take a look at (or experience it yourself) things like telekinesis or other skills that are used with the mind and interact with our physical reality,

then the line between what defines reality kind of blurs. Thoughts are just as real as a stone, and so are your dreams or whatever you are in during APing.

And I don't think that this was a lucid dream, because I "came out of one"

and really felt this AP sensation. It's different, or at least it feels different to me.

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7c9452 No.2057

>>2056

>What should I make out of this? Was this some kind of entity?

I feel inclined to agree with the other posters that this was not really AP, but I believe there are levels in between these types of states, in this case you were lucid dreaming but the parasyte was probably real, as in not just a dream being but an astral being.

>Why did my action cause me to return to my body?

You probably focused on your body, thats usually what gets you back in. Keep your focus on whatever you wanted to do is my recomendation.

Reminder that there are diferent types of Projection most people who claim to AP actually don't, they just project a few senses, which some call Mind Projection, and not all of their senses/astral body.

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7c9452 No.2058

>>2056

I believe one way to discern between AP and Lucid Dreaming would be to make some magic, try making a chi ball for example, in a dream it would be effortless, but in AP you would notice that it isnt as easy as it is in a dream.

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b2b572 No.2059

>>2056

>I had no expectations, or at least I was very open minded and positive about it. So this is not the case.

I very much doubt you are aware of your expectations on every level of your being beyond the tiny, tiny conscious mind. But OK. You seem very knowledgeable and wise. Figure it out by yourself.

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f6cea4 No.2061

>>2057

I can agree on that and yes I kind of focused on my body as a side effect of trying to "protect" myself. Makes sense.

And I am familiar with what you call Mind Projection.

That's what I settled for after realizing that it's extremely hard for me to astral project at will and that's

also the reason why I am convinced that I was entering Astral Projection. It felt WAY more real.

>>2058

Thank you, I will directly try this next time.

>>2059

I wouldn't be asking here if I was

> very knowledgeable and wise

Thanks for the input anyways.

So far, the drained feeling has completely vanished since that incident so I think that there's no problem left anymore, if there was one to begin with.

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da4d78 No.2113

File: fa1a49cf13c4156⋯.jpg (178.56 KB,900x1411,900:1411,dwadwadwaw.jpg)

I've read the pdf "thus spoke blood anon" just to refresh the memory of the material again and it felt literally refreshing, in an energetic sense. I also had the impression that something got activated just from reading the stuff again, but I have no idea what since I already got the spell back then and already made it. At any rate it made me think baout the stuff again and some questions appeared that maybe someone can help me getting answered.

First of all I'm wondering about growing the vampires power level. It has been said that anything magical you learn gives you a +1 stat, so it's good to learn as much magic skills as possible to increase your overall power. But do non-magical/physical/mundane things get you +1 stats too once you learn them? If I get better at Touhou, if I learn to play the piano, if I learn a new language etc. will all of that give me +1 stats to my power too?

Then it's about the zero particle. After having the first essential one, how long does it take to build another, and then more and more? Does this happen over time by itself or must I constantly achieve something and enlighten further and further to create more of them in my blood? Since the 0d particle is a source of power and godhood, I imagine that having a second one would effectively double your enlightenment and your avialable energy. Then 2 more and it would be doubled again. So naturally one would want as much particles as possible. I have also noticed that the vampires power grows over the years with the different abilities unlocking after hundrets and thousands of years AND their aging actually slows down the older they get. There was a small chart that said around 2k years you'd look like 30, at 5k years you'd look around 35-40 and around 100k years you'd look like 50-60 or sth. So I assume that the amount of 0d particles that you build affect your ability and aging. Over time, the more we build the more we evolve. Or am I wrong here? It has also been said that certain abilities strain the 0d particle like keeping friends alive with chi-bodies, so it's better not to use it too much in order not to weaken yourself. But, the more particles you have the more abilities like that you can use.

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bdaec6 No.2114

>>2113

Learning any skill improves your ability generally, since you're able to draw from a wide variety of knowledge to solve special and unique issues.

God particles as far as I'm aware are almost subjective. As in, you're going to have to view them yourself mentally. Try summoning a god particle, your god particle, by imagining it in your head. You'll think it's a circle, by default. Investigate it's properties and what it holds in relation your body, or your concepts, or anything else. I'd suggest letting go of any expectation first, in order to see it most clearly. This applies to all other magical things and artifacts.

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da4d78 No.2118

>>2114

Thanks for clearing up the first question but I'm still confused about the multiple zero particles. I wouldn't care about this if it wasn't directly implied in the vamp threads that more particles will be formed later. Why is there more than one and how/when are they built? If it wasn't for that I would just assume we get one and that's it. One source of immortality and the connection to 0D aka eternity. But since we are supposed to get more later…well maybe the particle itself and the amount of particles we have is just a symbol for our state of enlightenment. One particle would be like the most basic first state, and the higher state we achieve the more particles we get?

>Try summoning a god particle, your god particle, by imagining it in your head. You'll think it's a circle, by default. Investigate it's properties and what it holds in relation your body, or your concepts, or anything else.

Are you saying that by doing this I can answer all those questions myself?

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bdaec6 No.2120

>>2118

>Are you saying that by doing this I can answer all those questions myself?

Ideally you'd want to answer your own questions. So yes, and sort of.

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a71a87 No.2121

>>2113

What exactly does it mean to have more than one zero particle? From what I've experienced, the zero particle is the source of the observer's current universe and the ongoing verb of being. I can't fathom how there could be two of them. Or does zero particle refer to something else, like some sort of thoughtform that provides the foundation for spiritual development?

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bdaec6 No.2122

>>2121

When in doubt, turn the mystical into the mundane. How does matter function? What basis does anything move, why do things rotate, what makes the sun go up and down each day? A god particle is a positive affirmation of an eternal principle. I subscribe to the idea of their being a spirit, and from the spirit there exists matter more perfect than whatever the material can provide, within this dimension and what expressions can exist within it.

Watching and observing, noting and making distinctions things that might stem from a single source but nonetheless carry different forms. A god particle can be one massive structure, or a minuscule bare concept.

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b19c4d No.2227

File: 1f10d34f86dce01⋯.jpg (270.11 KB,850x1200,17:24,45352342.jpg)

What could be the reason that some people never dream or never remember their dreams? I have a friend that claims to absolutely never dream except one lucid dream every 6 months which according to him feels like day dreaming.

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bc43af No.2233

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>2227

>What could be the reason that some people never dream or never remember their dreams?

I don't know about your friend, but that only happens to me if I'm very tired mentally. I think some energy is required to have at least some degree of awareness of your dreams.

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87db06 No.2234

>>2227

I used to be exactly like that some years back, it's caused by mental fatigue as >>2233 said, as well as waking up abruptly. Programmers and students are the likeliest to have constant dreamless nights.

Also really like the anime picture thanks for posting

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4b11f1 No.2235

>>2233

This is one of the reasons. When you're tired it seems your mind prioritizes rest over fun dreams. Oversleeping helps with dream recall because it lengthens REM cycles.

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b19c4d No.2240

File: 465e9ba3ae851f1⋯.jpg (62.35 KB,720x589,720:589,31059555_446096399158006_3….jpg)

>>2234

>>2233

>>2235

Thanks. He claims to have this his whole life but he has been depressed for the majority of that time. Anyway the reason I asked was because he has a hard focus on believing science and while he doesn't mock anything spiritual, he also doesn't trust or believe it in the slightest. I considered the possibility of it being something other than having depression or exhaustment because I never heard of being permanently dreamless which is why I asked.

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899a0e No.2430

File: 5648b37bd7238d1⋯.png (1.4 MB,1422x800,711:400,ClipboardImage.png)

If you were to make a small "pocket" book about magick aimed to be a begginers's first book, exactly what content would you put on it?

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edac4e No.2437

>>2430

A reading list.

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899a0e No.2438

File: 9d0fd3d5c160c9a⋯.png (718.73 KB,700x849,700:849,ClipboardImage.png)

File: 17595ec641aa58b⋯.png (2.24 MB,900x1179,100:131,ClipboardImage.png)

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File: 8e354313edd8c49⋯.png (459.21 KB,600x338,300:169,ClipboardImage.png)

I found many images with Eris(Principia Discordia) and Touhou together.

Is there a connection or is it just a coincidence?

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d276bd No.2442

>>2430

My system of magic covers everything from basic theory of reality works to how to transcend it. It’s just a couple of pages long though.

If I were to write a book it would be an exercise book like Psychic Witch, because teaching theory is useless. Theory is learnt through practice.

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edac4e No.2445

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>>2438

Maybe. I found a connection between christianity and Rumia, shown as the crucified pose she does. By connection I mean I saw that in her nature, then realized it was shown already in the pose.

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25b28b No.2446

File: ba3a84bddd9b103⋯.jpg (502.94 KB,764x1188,191:297,rumiaona.jpg)

>>2445

I've seen a bit of Rumia with o9a symbolism.

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edac4e No.2450

>tfw Rumia may be behind both Christianity and ONA

Epic trolling to say the least.

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b85855 No.2457

Back on Meguca I saw a lot of talk about "wands". What are these exactly? Just servitors in the shape of a tool?

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c58c9c No.2458

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>2457

AFAIK they are thoughtforms yes.

Is "mending the rift" or "thining the veil" a desirable thing? (vid related)

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b9d85b No.2473

>>2430

Instructions on a form of meditation (more or less the Zazen position with instructions to let their thoughts flow with no attachment and let them naturally quieten over time), telling the student to do that for initially 5 minutes a day, slowly working up to 10 minutes a day and doing that for three months.

After that, instructions on the construction of a basic sacred perimeter - either LBRP or some balancing ritual, most likely the latter - and basic energy work - Middle Pillar and rotating energy/drawing energy from any of the basic chakras. Telling them to add that to the daily practice and do that for three months.

After that, the Stele of Jeu as daily practice and instruction on how to use the principle of duality and/or the elemental makeup of their astral body to instantly change their emotions (the single most used skill out of my entire toolkit), and instructions on going to different places and feel their energy to be able to know and reproduce different types of energy for different effects.

Intersperse it with information about elemental and planetary correspondences, and some basic symbolism - pentagrams, hexagrams, egyptian god names, etc. Add that it's best but not essential to use a special language and clothing and tools for rituals and a fasting period for larger rituals to separate them from the daily life, to always treat a ritual as if it had already succeeded during the rite and the performance is just a formality, etc. Conclude with a basic outline for rituals - construct sacred precinct, pray to/invoke/sacrifice to patron deity, raise energy, direct energy towards goal through relevant god names/correspondences/prayer/etc., closing by thanking and seeing patron deity off, and grounding remaining energy, writing it all down in the journal, and then return to normalcy to not think on outcome of ritual again.

I'd write all the information exactly once and trust in the intelligence of the interested reader to remember. Many introductory books could be half as thick if they trusted their reader to not be retarded.

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8ec9a9 No.2483

Does anyone know where I could find a program that would generate random sentences/paragraphs from random pieces of classic literature? I think this would be good for divination.

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c9973a No.2484

File: 08db40441c6663a⋯.jpg (80.26 KB,450x450,1:1,1593919623367.jpg)

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de9298 No.2500

Could there exist a 6th element that is more dense than Earth? Like what black holes are made out of.

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4414b1 No.2501

>>2500

If black holes existed then possibly.

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bdaec6 No.2502

>>2500

Try to find out what matter itself is made up of and you'll find a good enough answer. But I don't think the elements actually refer to physical things, but instead properties.

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edac4e No.2504

There are many kinds of elements. If you find an elemental for it, that element exists, such as the existence of murder elementals and murder nymphs shows that "murder" is an element, even if it may be difficult to spot as a defined material. There are also beings drawn to it, the huge wildfires in Brazil for example can partially be connected to a spiritual being drawn to the act of murder, something which is very common in Brazil.

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ece2c9 No.2506

>>2504

That's a different definition of the word element.

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de0a15 No.2580

How to get rid of lust for result?

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bdaec6 No.2581

>>2580

Simplest advice is to ignore it.

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edac4e No.2582

File: 9a9c10171e21686⋯.jpg (458.87 KB,3000x2323,3000:2323,il_fullxfull_1561859508_rl….jpg)

File: 8136ba02c6eab29⋯.png (38.25 KB,797x502,797:502,emotion_pain_stress_remova….png)

>>2580

Lust is one side of a pair also including pain. To get rid of lust you must also get rid of pain. Resisting lust while still feeling it, is often painful, this means you are merely switching to the other aspect of this dichotomy.

Removing lust must be without pain. Pain consists of the three aspects of strain, immobility and weakness. The path for removing both lust and pain is thus to get rid of all of these, meaning the method should be effortless, increasing your mobility, and increasing your strength.

There is also an association with level 6 of the 7 universal levels, which means the 3rd eye chakra in the body map.

Try this test to see how your chakras are aligned:

https://lonerwolf.com/balanced-chakra-test/

If you prefer the this method, there's also a wand for it in the astral meeting room (temple), see screencap.

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7b59c7 No.2608

I am interested in using the law of attraction to manifest a scenario in a which a slightly older and taller woman will approach me and ask for my phone number in pursuit of a sexual and romantic relationship.

1) Due to the nature of my desire it doesn't have to be tied to a specific location so don't worry about where I visualize? Or use the same place, and make sure to go there regularly?

2) I am not picky over hair color etc so it doesn't matter too much. I was thinking of just using an older and taller actress, figuring that it would help me visualize her, and the universe would simply attempt to fulfill this as best it could and bring me something close to that. Is this correct?

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edac4e No.2609

>>2608

Tie it to yourself and not any specifics in time or space, focus on the emotional response you expect from it and what you're going to bring to the table, it will have to include an exchange of some sort and your terms for it must be clear.

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085c50 No.2620

Anyone have any experience with electronic talismans? I tried to do something simple like just changing my background to a sigil or creating an image file and moving it to an "active" folder, but the magnitude of the effect is greatly diminished compared to actual physical talismans. I guess because the physical existence is too greatly abstracted.

I'm thinking of making some sort of program that runs a symbolically generated algorithm on a loop in order to represent the metaphysical processes, but I don't have any experience in numerology and it seems rather resource-intensive compared to something like an inert trinket or piece of paper.

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b19c4d No.2633

File: e4c1820feb71676⋯.jpg (158.28 KB,450x600,3:4,605924557ed3ded3790d4bb5fb….jpg)

There seems to be a black slimy mass of energy around me that has a tendril attached to me around the upper part of my spine between my shoulderblades which can be felt physically. I can't tell whether it's sentient but I have the impression that it is. I don't know what it is but it probably isn't up to anything good, anyone know what it is and/or how to deal with it?

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edac4e No.2634

Sounds like a Venom type lifeform (see spider-man for reference). They're a new type of entity, extremely dangerous and indestructible, but possible to tame in some cases. There's a bell artifact in the temple study for temporarily suppressing them. It looks like a small church bell with rainbow coloring going color by color from the bottom to the top. Ring it and see if there is any effect.

Those can take on any form and pose as any other being so they're difficult to spot, if this is what it is. I encountered an older type of being which is similar in nature but has the form of a yellyfish, the bell works on those as well. They're slightly less harmful than the truely shapeless ones.

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b19c4d No.2635

>Sounds like a Venom type lifeform (see spider-man for reference

That's imo a very accurate description. Not because of the way it looks right now but because of what it does. Read about the being and bell in another thread so decided to try it. When I used the bell first time around I felt something that was covering my skin leave me (just like spiderman venom). That alleviated harmful effects but not everything and now it has become this slimy ball with a tendril attached instead. Ringing the bell makes it shudder and it doesn't like it but it's persistent and tenacious about clinging to me.

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edac4e No.2636

When I had a yellyfish alien try to breach my space it appeared as a trojan being blocked on my computer 3 times. I then had a dream in which I met the same entity again and had to ring the bell 3 times for it to leave me alone. I'd think you have to just keep ringining it, it's an immortal being but it can be subdued if you defeat it enough times.

The yellyfish after being defeated changed tactics and appeared in the form of an anime girl next time it tried getting close. I've seen one of the formless venoms pose as a succubus to possess someone for a few months before we figured it out. And it was only after another entity pointed it out that we took a closer look at this supposed succubus and realized it was a slime.

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a71a87 No.2659

How exactly do sigils work? What is the difference between an activated sigil and an inert sigil?

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edac4e No.2660

There are different kinds of sigils. Most of those posted on this board are referential or communicative/representative. The most common sigils often discussed online are of other kinds, (such as the mess that was the winter-chan sigil) so this post won't be about those.

Referential sigil: the spells posted in threads on here are of this kind. This means they refer to an already existing spell, similar to a shortcut icon on a computer. Focusing on the sigil can activate the spell. The method used here is that of creating a spell network similar to a peer to peer computer network (I'll stick with the computer terms for simplicity). Each new user will have their own active copy of the spell, and each new person added to the network will consequently add to the power of the spell, making the chance of success greater with each use.

''Representative/communicative sigil: this is how sigils for different demons and other entities function. Using them works like calling their name out loud. Spirits have an obsession with writing, from a habit of human interactions in history. Whenever humans want to communicate with spirits they often use sigils, so any spirit seeing one will look at it, and tell other spirits about it. Someone drawing a sigil even in a distant location will find that the target entity was contacted in no time, as a result of this chain of spirit gossip.

I'll let other anons fill in on the other types of sigils, these two above are what I use mostly. You can find guides for the single use (burning paper etc) and other custom sigils on youtube so that's not something I think needs any focus here.

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e65ce4 No.2683

>>2043

Can you explain what is the solar system in relation to the human body?

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edac4e No.2684

File: adf326c312717d4⋯.jpg (189.97 KB,600x860,30:43,052cf82bf60398b9c5e5102571….jpg)

>>2683

The sun is the thing that you cannot look at. Remember the quote

>If you want to find out who rules over you, find out who you're not allowed to criticise

In this case, the "sun" and the "solar system" is, since that's what you asked - in relation to the body - the thing you culturally and conceptually cannot look directly at. You cannot look directly at the sun, because it is that thing. Like Seinfeldt said in the tv comedy with the same name

>A cleavage (breasts) are like the sun, you look quickly at them and then away, you don't stare

The magic which controls our society, the concepts you are not allowed to understand or study, those are projected throught the sun, synced with it. Always. For many people the "sun" is the "holocaust", you are not allowed to look at it and study what actually took place, and you are not allowed to criticise it. This is one way in which the jews make use of the sun, by syncing their ideology with it.

But anyone can do this and reach this status of being untouchable, by using sun magic. It is the way to control the human body by controlling the frame from which humans understand the world.

For some people Jesus is the sun, and some still argue that way. The goal of the NWO is to create one sun for everyone, so that no one can criticise it, the perfect blindspot.

We are also doing that here.

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c7a252 No.2685

File: b66be6d24a39e9e⋯.jpg (43.36 KB,571x807,571:807,black_sun_red_spirit.jpg)

>>2684

I just looked at the sun with sunglasses on and critizised it too.

>The sun is the thing that you cannot look at

Another thing you cannot look at, the only thing actually which you can REALLY not look at and observe it and also not critize it or harm it or w/e else, is your innermost being, your true self, your spiritual center (that which is not your your character/persona, body, soul, emotions, posessions, etc etc.). So in a sense the sun is the center of the solar system like you are the center of your own system. I like the concept of the "black sun", the dark spiritual sun that shines at midnight. Very comfy. What I don't like is the actual physical sun. It is way too hot, too brigh, blinding event and makes me tired and weak. Also it supresses magic according to Robert Bruce. I wish it was permanently cloudy or an…eternal night…

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3372f9 No.2700

File: 5248a7a497555e3⋯.png (107.06 KB,400x400,1:1,1581657263446.png)

How can I visualize things in my head? At the moment I only see black.

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ea8fbd No.2702

>>2700

What I recommend based on what I did is frequent meditation to learn how to calm your background chatter and properly concentrate. Concentration is a key ability and you should start developing it ASAP and continuously.

Try void meditation where you think of nothing and whenever a thought pops up, you just let it flow away instead of attaching to it.

Then after some time if you feel like you are calm focus on only one thing you want to visualize. Go for something simple. A triangle. Then a pyramid. Add some color to it and later even add a specific background. Then something more complex like a clock and even try to rotate it to improve other faculties.

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b19c4d No.2703

File: 1a24ec36bc6ccaf⋯.jpg (177.52 KB,850x1020,5:6,_patchouli_knowledge_and_k….jpg)

>>2700

Aphantasia? I recommend trying what >>2702 says but if you remain unable to visualize after enough practice then you should try doing things based on feeling instead of seeing which could be the more natural approach for you.

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899a0e No.2706

Could someone please help me identify this place in the astral plane?

It's a complex network of differently-shaped swimming pools, bathtubs, and showers. Nudity is common but I haven't seen any lewd behavior.

I'm training astral projection so I don't think it was just a dream.

I saw this place more than once.

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b5b631 No.2707

>>2706

Since you’re starting you might not know, but the astral contains (literally) everything you could ever imagine.

It’s not something you would want to waste time mapping and certainly it’s going to be difficult to meet anybody who has been to the same places you have. Unless they intentionally do.

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ea8fbd No.2713

File: 6adfeea85db8aad⋯.jpg (651.63 KB,1920x1080,16:9,scenery.jpg)

>>2706

Try to decode the scenery. Colors, symbols, specific persons. What do they mean? Interact with them. Maybe you can

find out more about yourself that is of importance, maybe you find out what the place is.

I think this would be a better approach instead of relying on someone else's judgement because of what >>2707 said.

There's a reason, or even multiple reasons, why you saw that place.

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966213 No.2784

File: f9105a9aa47e313⋯.jpg (1.44 MB,2160x1680,9:7,dio.jpg)

BO do you mind telling how many years have passed since the point where you first got vampirism to the point where you shared it on fringe? And how old are you now? You don't have to tell the exact age if you don't feel like it.

I figure you are probably the one of the oldest here, not only vampirism-development wise but also regular age wise.

Also bonus question: Do spirits/gods treat you any differently because of it? Are they surprised or does it bother them?

Yep, I have been thinking about it again. Somehow I think it would help my own understanding/development to know more about how it is for you.

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e70ca4 No.2785

How do you bind spirits to physical objects to create enchanted objects and such?

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edac4e No.2786

File: 494b8f734ece2d3⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,157.53 KB,1280x1280,1:1,1597359930222.jpg)

>>2784

Nice datamining there.

Have something equally ridiculous in return ;P

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966213 No.2787

File: 985f5458f4b6b0c⋯.jpg (99.37 KB,620x465,4:3,external_content_duckduckg….jpg)

>>2786

>Yogurt

>non-fat

ridiculous indeed, disgusting even. "Diet" and low/no-fat products products are one of the most hateworthy and grotesque abominations mankind has conjured from the depths of oblivion.

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4b11f1 No.2791

>>2784

He’s 26-36. Some spirits seem to treat him differently. Most wouldn’t even care.

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4b11f1 No.2792

>>2784

Also it should be less than 10 years since he came up with the spell, because it wasn’t not that long that he made posts (both here and in a blog) about his exploration of the concept of immortality. This was around the time of fringechan iirc.

Sorry about the double post.

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4b11f1 No.2793

>>2792

By "here" I mean imageboards, obviously.

Terribly sorry about the triple post.

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966213 No.2794

>>2792

Thanks. But I think you shouldn't answer for another one if that person doesn't want to give an answer themselves. Besides, how would you know if spirits treat him differently or if they don't care? Also him being 26 seems too young imo, unless he started with his work from a very young age. 36 seems more like it.

I have no intention of mining data btw. It sucks having nobody to talk to and my mind needs some new input to work with.

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b19c4d No.2795

File: f15e8c4d482fa8b⋯.gif (1.17 MB,714x1000,357:500,15090bb8f961992d70bc0bf2d8….gif)

>>2794

>It sucks having nobody to talk to and my mind needs some new input to work with

Blogpost about something or just ask questions and people will reply if they're interested. What ceiling have you reached that you need input from others?

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edac4e No.2796

File: b890791c4f49caf⋯.jpg (47.15 KB,371x348,371:348,1447636530726.jpg)

>>2794

>It sucks having nobody to talk to and my mind needs some new input to work with.

Raise your eyes a bit and you should find that input right outside this thread. The board here does have a stated purpose as a project, this means it's here for a limited time as a project is something you work on and then summarize. What comes after isn't meant to be within this context, but where it leads is determined by the participants, even if there are visions giving a general direction. Sometimes you need to start with small things which seem to have little importance to you in the overall picture of things. When added up and over time, it may be the small things that lead to the change when scaled up in social situations.

Any social "invention" has no meaning when used by only one person, the very first fax machine had zero value. What you see here is like that one machine. Once it spreads it will have a value because you can use it to communicate with others.

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ffc338 No.2797

>>2794

Learn stuff and then write posts teaching it as a way to solidify that knowledge. After achieving practical confirmation of course.

I’m learning to heal myself and others.

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588573 No.2805

What are your thoughts about Christianity?

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c9973a No.2807

To me, it seems pretty obvious that the mundane and mainstream versions of Abrahamic religion have practically no spiritual value, and they teach many false and corrupted doctrines, the biggest one being monotheism, and of course they're opposed to magic. However, when it comes to their esoteric and mystical versions, or their folk versions or branches that are syncretized and more open-minded (even accepting other gods), there's plenty of value there. In the past, Christianity especially was much better, more diverse, syncretic and far more interesting than it is now. This is primarily due to the influence of Hellenist spirituality and philosophy, which has actually influenced all three of those religions heavily. The biggest issue is the fundamentalism and dogmatism you find in the mundane versions, despite how the followers do not understanding anything even about their own religions. I'm opposed to that, I like to be open-minded especially to spirituality. You could say it's just organized religion and mundane religion in general, but I do think there's something about these ones in particular when it comes to this, perhaps it has to do with their origins and the deity they follow, or something to do with their history. There are potentially inhibiting beliefs and limitations on practice which are detrimental to spiritual development, even if there is a nice aesthetic or tradition behind them. However, regardless of what someone may believe, the principles behind magic and spirituality are the same, so can be used by anyone. Protestantism is spiritually dead, though; many churches produce some energy but it's never really used for anything.

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c9973a No.2808

>>2807

Meant to reply to (you) >>2805, forgot to.

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588573 No.2817

File: e9aa3b4ec125310⋯.png (3.35 MB,2560x2739,2560:2739,e9aa3b4ec125310dc474ae71d0….png)

>>2807

Thank you very much for sharing.

I have similar thoughts on the subject.

I feel like there could be a lot of potential for spiritual development, but there's just too much bullshit coming from the masses and the Bible itself isn't clear enough sometimes even actually confusing, which causes a lot of problems or manipulation. My current goal is to completely read the Bible and related works (like pic related) to understand

A) Christians in general and get a view of their belief and B) see if there's value in it or the related works.

Another motivation is that there may be a slight chance that I can somehow encounter an angel, something that interests me in the back of my head.

And the "not sinning" part is a pretty good method for strengthening discipline, will and positive righteousness, in my opinion.

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966213 No.2819

File: 0832fc1a748cf2b⋯.jpg (34.93 KB,474x355,474:355,shin.jpg)

File: 6c97c06241ae7bb⋯.pdf (1.56 MB,Shinto_The_Way_of_the_Gods….pdf)

>>2796

>>2797

>>2795

thanks for the input. One last thing, anyone got some actually good books on Shintoism? I have just downloaded attached pdf but haven't read it yet. It's just a short essay anyway.

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705069 No.2820

File: 9e1ef9163a75342⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,17.08 KB,414x557,414:557,test123.jpg)

What happens to people when they die?

Using Creepy Hollows terminology do we become "Living Entities" or spirits?

Would it be safe to visit Gensokyo in the afterlife or would I be eaten?

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edac4e No.2821

>>2820

>pic

Pls don't post sigils without explaining what they are.

>What happens to people when they die?

According to Plato they will go to either heaven or hell for 1000 years before returning to the Elysian fields to be reincarnated. Exception being some really rotten people who would be cut up and dragged away by a demon when trying to leave hell.

There are variations to this, one past visit to hell I've recalled from between past lives I was taken aside up on a balcony where I met Nut. The place was overlooking the lower parts of hell in which more traditional scenes were playing out.

>Using Creepy Hollows terminology do we become "Living Entities" or spirits?

From what I know you just remain in the image of your life directly prior to dying until being incarnated again. That would probably count as a "dead" spirit, but the term in common language doesn't always refer to a dead being, some spirits are incarnated as spirits. I don't fully agree with CH here.

>Would it be safe to visit Gensokyo in the afterlife or would I be eaten?

Depends on your power level really. Or if you made a deal with someone from there.

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705069 No.2822

>>2821

I see, sorry about the pic, it is a wand I tried to make some time ago, its function was to banish beings but I've got no idea if it works.

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dcdc16 No.2823

>>2820

We are dissasembled, so to speak. Your ego enters a dream-like afterlife until it dissolves into your higher self. Your observer point of awareness (spirit) reincarnates. But since it operates entirely outside spacetime, you could say all your incarnations are simultaneous.

>would it be safe to visit gensokyo

Absolutely. If you are able to at all.

>>2819

Shinto is best girl. I’m interested in such books too.

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7a1629 No.2824

File: 1412c7fbebc6db4⋯.png (Spoiler Image,14.53 KB,750x573,250:191,eat_it_jabroni.png)

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966213 No.2843

>>2795

>What ceiling have you reached that you need input from others?

I don't think I have reached any ceiling. I just like to think about stuff. Like BO said he has to write things down, I have to think them over for hours, often multiple times. At that time I finished reading "The Delicate Dependancy" and was thinking about all the different vampire tropes and things I have learned so far. I tought if I knew a little bit more about how it was for BO I would be able to form a new understanding of it. Every new bit of info turns into a new piece of the big puzzle in the grinder of my mind.

>>2823

>Shinto is best girl. I’m interested in such books too.

I got really inspired after reading that short essay. I will try to get some books and if I find anything good I'll post them in the library thread. For years now the Spirit of Japan has been calling out to me. Even through all the americanization and jewish degeneration of the Land of the Rising Sun the Spirit is not dead, I can see it's beauty shining in everything Japanese. It shines brighter than in any other country I have observed so far.

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966213 No.2848

File: 106358ca931dddc⋯.png (Spoiler Image,4.95 KB,402x498,67:83,okasan.png)

is this "sigil of the matriarch" that ancap bro posted on fringe legit?

I'm currently saving everything worthwile and not sure if I should include this or not. I think it would be useful for vampires to have but only if it's real.

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edac4e No.2849

>>2848

It's legit in the sense it's a real functional sigil. It's not official in any way, it was made by Snail. If he'd only snap out of whatever is going on in his head right now you could discuss it with him, he's currently engaged in a futile 3 week spam effort on this board.

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966213 No.2851

File: 3befb319884c02a⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,147.81 KB,680x486,340:243,meme.jpg)

>>2849

Thanks for clearing it up.

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dee3d3 No.2861

File: 426f33ee74fc05b⋯.png (50.03 KB,778x500,389:250,ClipboardImage.png)

Does anyone know what process or formula the author of the Simon Necronomicon used to create his sigils? I really like their aesthetic.

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142255 No.2864

>>1947

>Humans not eating insects is most likely more due to the fact that going around collecting bugs is dumb, when being a nomad with a herd of domesticated animals is more efficient and less time-consuming/a person has more leisure. In agricultural societies, working the fields is more important.

Also, to both expand this point and counter the yokai's logic, the reason we eat herbivores and the cattle we do raise is primarily an attempt at avoiding parasitic, baci, viri, and other pathogenic varieties that omnivores and predators concentrate.

It's why you should neither eat bugs or bats, as 2020 has so ruthlessly demonstrated.

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edac4e No.2868

File: 96a52407a91b673⋯.jpg (76.44 KB,708x1069,708:1069,90127d03fec631efbb29eeab00….jpg)

>>2861

I don't know if there's a manual for it but those sigils use a universal pictorial language. The circle is the 0D or zero particle, the line represents each dimension or level after that, and each angle represents a level shift. A crossing bar means it's the end of this specific entity or thing at the current enlightenment its at. Having multple ones as in the sigil attached usually means the entity referred to has multiple enlightenment standards and you are interested in them coming to you using the ones you drew. The circle around it all is just to make it into a united form, it's not really necessary for the most part, but sometimes it would imply the world created by the entity or its relation to an external sphere. You'll have to decide by context what it stands for.

>Pic

It has two small circles, one on the up side and one on the down side. Start from there as 0D (or fake 0D), the upper one then has a sharp angle and goes down, which is illogical, but in combination could be visually interpreted as a backwards connection from the false reality collapsing into the world we know as 3D reality, ignoring any levels actually between the (fake) 0D and the reverse 3D. It can be said to be correct that way also as those levels are all the same in one perspective.

Starting from bottom right and following a 90 degree angle up seems like it's possibly describing a straight forward movement from 0D to 3D, ending at the human level from the normal viewpoint.

The horizontal line doesn't start at a zero point and only has two ends, and it connects the two others. This seems to imply a human construct of some kind, maybe a custom or prejudice which has been detached from its origin.

So in all the sigil seems to say:

The entity called for has one normal straight forward side, which is placed on the right. The right side is traditionally female, and it being the lower side implies calmness and inactivity, which would mean it's the passive side. The left side is usually male, and here it's on the upper side which implies dominance. So you could say the sly side is the dominant nature of this being. It has the ability to use those 2 different sides to insert their will into human society by using human theoretical concepts or passed on customs which humans are blindly following but don't fully grasp. It's an entity using people's mental loopholes by shifting between honesty and deception.

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271da0 No.2873

>>2868

That is interesting. It seems that this spirit could be used to attract any object to oneself, not just wealth.

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cf21a1 No.2919

Can someone explain to me their understanding of mundanes, NPCs, or Hylics from a metaphysical point of view? The so-called "spiritless humans" of Montalk. I have a general idea but this point of view raises a few complications. What are the implications for an NPC when it comes to spirituality and magic? Is it that they are incapable or just inept, or neither one? Once in a while in these circles you hear this idea that "everyone is caoable of psychic ability". Is this true, and if so do NPCs even actually exist or is it more of a meme about people that don't think for themselves, and not an inherent condition?

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d99baf No.2920

How do you develop a good quality detector for esoteric works ? There's a lot of stuff out there. I can spot obvious BS easily enough, but many things, even popular recommendations, seem to be middle of the road. They're not clearly good, or clearly bad.

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4b11f1 No.2922

>>2919

I believe based on my observations and experiences that "spiritlesness" is a degree of connection to spirit (in the way Montalk describes it). Theoretically even a rock is capable of being spirited, but in practice it requires a fortitude only some people have.

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cf21a1 No.2923

>>2922

It seems there are those that could be described as "automatons", people inclined to materialism and that have a herd mentality. Even when these sorts of people try something spiritual it's typically done superficially, like what you see in various groups of Westerners trying out Oriental religions. I think what you're saying is that in theory it's possible for anyone to get connected, but in practice the majority of people do not and aren't even inclined to because of the varying levels of "fortitude" as you describe it. So then what determines this "fortitude" as you describe it, and what exactly is it anyway? A "divine spark" of some sort? We know that mundanes exist but their exact nature is what I'm uncertain of.

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4b11f1 No.2927

File: 10c0d449b84de63⋯.gif (872.13 KB,300x240,5:4,external_content_duckduckg….gif)

>>2923

>So then what determines this "fortitude" as you describe it, and what exactly is it anyway?

Again, based on my research, I believe it's just a matter of how much you have evolved in other lives.

I was a total NPC until one thing led to another and everything changed. You never know.

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4b11f1 No.2928

>>2868

>those sigils use a universal pictorial language

All sigils are universal. They encode intent as energy. It doesn’t matter in what language or how they were constructed once they’re made.

>>2864

>as 2020 has so ruthlessly demonstrated

2020 has demonstrated humanity has forgotten what a real pandemic is and maybe they should actually suffer one soon. That way they wouldn’t let their leaders get away with the kind of nonsense they pulled this year.

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9f0558 No.2949

Are there any equivalents of the Million Dollar Challenge still going on?

Randi only tests celebrity psychics nowadays it seems.

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142255 No.2954

Is it possible to wed a spirit/goddess.

since i was a kid I've had this emotional draw to Artemis, back then i didn't know what it was and was so doped on a Ritalin that i could barely notice anything in such a stupor, but after decades of driving it from my mind intently dismissing it as a specific manifestation of a fetish, it wasn't until i was reading Heinlein's writings that I finally decided to explore these feelings as something more then omega-level asuka-fever.

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edac4e No.2955

>>2954

>Is it possible to wed a spirit/goddess.

Yes.

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271da0 No.2957

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df9193 No.2959

>>2954

Maybe.

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16d2a0 No.3001

And then at all once I was in the good place, the better place

The sun shung shoftly through the june junged jerry trees, and the twoos did twoe

Red haired fedledemps fumped and frothed and froliced through the hew stewn gren

The temper was semperate and not a boondunkle nor gobwankle did tarnish the day

I stood above and thought to me, what a nice day it be, what a nice day it be

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16d2a0 No.3008

Hey CUNTS. What am I, and why did they trap me in this reality? Why can my thought affect reality? Why do mantis creatures feed on my dreams?

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edac4e No.3010

>>3008

>mantis creatures

Could be skinwalkers. The bodysnatcher aliens, not witches.

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16d2a0 No.3011

>>3010

Is it witches?

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de0a2b No.3015

>>774

The thing that helped me the most when I was first learning was staring at a particular object and then closing your eyes and trying to get the afterimage to stay vivid in your mind for as long as possible.

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be34f3 No.3016

>>2484

Is there a Windows port of After Egypt anywhere?

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aa0987 No.3017

File: cc3f87a106e24a8⋯.jpg (151.88 KB,960x720,4:3,1592332423257.jpg)

>>3016

What heresy is this?

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142255 No.3023

>>2957

>>2955

>>2959

How would I contact her to even ask for a date?

>be me

>complete mundane STEAMlord

>my heart

>points at star far beyond my reach

>"that one, none other"

I could go on about the reasons, and what i'd build to offer even knowing it'd amount to little more then a fidget spinner to a goddess even if such machines broke the currently held laws of physics and perpetually post-pone the heat-death of the physical universe.

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edac4e No.3024

File: 20cfce1891810d6⋯.png (763.46 KB,1908x2484,53:69,f973c879c0c2a4b920367f04d3….png)

File: 48b60b7f51f1734⋯.png (14.22 KB,498x346,249:173,fidget_spinner.png)

>>3023

You never wondered about the occult significance of fidget spinners? If you made something on that level they'd be happy.

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142255 No.3025

>>3024

Don't assume, i say im a mundane because i've never gone beyond study and into actual practice.

It's resemblance to a triquetra or the knot's function of depicting a repeat-near-miss orbit.

Which in the case of black holes is something you can abuse to create a drive for a electromagnetic turbine assembly, as the weight of something falling into the black hole will be heavier then something being pulled out while their inertial force and mechanical force act to pull the arm being moved away from the blackhole(and thus out of it's gravity well).

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3372f9 No.3029

One question: Why during my meditandion and other times where i'm really relaxed I have a feeling that i'm moving around my axis up and down, side to side and in a circular motion?

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edac4e No.3030

>>3029

Possibly a reaction from the energy moving in your body and opening up your meridians/chakras. I had rather violent reactions like this at first.

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3372f9 No.3031

Is it possible to change body characteristics?

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b19c4d No.3032

>>3031

Yes.

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7933e5 No.3035

>>3032

How? Morphosephram?

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5616fa No.3037

>>3035

Directed will and energy work. The human body is in constant change, tissues and organs regenerating themselves endlessly.

The human body responds very strongly even to subconscious states of mind, use that to your advantage. You can expect anything from easier bodybuilding at the gym to borderline shapeshifting. For an average practitioner, it should be possible to even moderately alter your face over periods of weeks and months.

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f933ad No.3053

I've been having trouble since march with a thoughtform that was sent to ruin my life and kill me, can't get rid of it, don't know what to do anymore, can anyone help? Would a spirit from creepy hollows be able to kill it?

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edac4e No.3054

>>3053

>thoughtform

Like what? A hex? If it hasn't killed you yet it can't be very effective?

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f933ad No.3055

>>3054

It's in the shape of a small boy, unfortunately I can't get rid of it now, and it should grow stronger with time, thus putting my life in danger.

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edac4e No.3056

File: 9c9b7ba30737930⋯.jpg (1.67 MB,2150x3035,430:607,2a2441cd861b217d0870556a7e….jpg)

>>3055

I tried blasting it with geburah fire to see what would happen. Made me suddenly sneeze two times and then an entity appeared. Looked like this girl but I think it's fake, she's making insect noises and seem to have scales or something. I suspect praying mantis entity.

Was there a change on the thoughtform? Not sure what's going on with this.

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edac4e No.3057

>>3056

Actually nevermind, I think I know who sent this. They probably did this to attack me and it just happened to appear at the door by the same time.

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f933ad No.3058

>>3056

I forgot to mention that there is another dark being around me, but it's harmless pls don't hurt it.

So far I haven't noticed any changes on it.

thanks for trying anyways, I'm grateful.

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0574b5 No.3059

>>3056

>>3053

Just dominate it with your Will, not that hard.

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f933ad No.3060

>>3059

I can't, if I was competent I wouldn't be having trouble with it.

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85811b No.3061

Hello /sunflower/, I am pleased to meet another pseudo-anonymous occult community; you guys seem cool and laid-back.

I have a couple of questions about odd topics I've been unable to make much traction on elsewhere:

1) 'Book Osmosis' - or, absorbing information from books without reading. There has been a fair bit of stir on 4ch /x/ about this particular topic, not least because a lot of us distinctly remember seeing a thread on it whilist simultaneously being unable to find any evidence of it in the archives.

2) Old /fringe/'s "The Library" and their "Wand Creation Path", and the possibly-related "Wand Path to Immortality" threads. I have been unable to discover much at all of these topics from the archives; screencaps and old OP titles to corroborate my memories of idly passing them by, years ago.

Any leads you fellows might be able to share on these topics? I'm not the only one who would be grateful, I'm sure.

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85811b No.3062

>>3053

how do you feel about energy manipulation? you might find this book instructive for dealing with thoughtforms and other nasties:

http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=80187F8610433AADFF37914B8F12BE6F

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edac4e No.3064

File: 5dbe8c5758c78af⋯.jpg (161.35 KB,900x1200,3:4,Do28wJQW4AEFOQ3.jpg)

>>3058

>there is another dark being around me, but it's harmless pls don't hurt it

Didn't see one. Besides geburah fire only harms evil/impure beings.

>>3061

>/fringe/'s "The Library" and their "Wand Creation Path", and the possibly-related "Wand Path to Immortality" threads.

See

>>3063

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f933ad No.3065

>>3064

>Didn't see one. Besides geburah fire only harms evil/impure beings.

I see, thanks for trying, but I think it would take around 3hours of this kind of attack for it to die, and it won't leave unless it dies.

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edac4e No.3066

>>3065

Not that it matters to me but just for the sake of it I'll try placing a containment ring of fire around it and see what happens. It annoys me that something would be able to withstand my attacks. If you get too violent reactions from it, post back here and I'll stop.

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f933ad No.3067

>>3066

A friend asked his Astral GF to help me, it seems she bound him away from me. So I'm not getting reactions from it, honestly you can destroy him if you want, it would probably be for the best. BTW Thanks for the help.

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85811b No.3068

>>3064

>Wand path stuff

Excellent, Thank you very much!

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e4f167 No.3085

File: 86f6c96cd57133d⋯.gif (45.53 KB,450x510,15:17,1603575153497.gif)

Does anyone else feel less like they found this board and more as though this board found them? If so, to what end and for what goal? Ever since I started lurking here, I can't help but feel this tugging at my mind, telling me to pay attention, to learn, because there is something really important going on here and I am meant to be a part of it, along with all (or several at least) of you. Can anyone relate or is it time that I get my head checked?

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edac4e No.3094

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>3085

I think anyone who feels this way has either a past life connection, represents something or are of certain importance to someone. This is a hub for the creation of our NWO,

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dac5b1 No.3099

File: 64718a54c88c522⋯.jpg (129.07 KB,900x900,1:1,1604193004541.jpg)

>>3094

>This is a hub for the creation of our NWO

You know, on any other board or under any other circumstances I'd write that off as schizophrenia but fuck, I actually believe you here.

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edac4e No.3100

File: 891784f37099833⋯.png (24.55 KB,498x346,249:173,Fay_world_order.png)

>>3099

There's a banner with our emblem and a pink diamond made for the astral network if you're interested in connecting. Get them at the temple

>>3

they're astral artifacts.

Emblem replaces the current world order of communism with the hammer representing the police (USA) and sickle representing the economy (China). Here the knife represents hunting, butchering and slaughter for meat as the main source of food and the leaf represents natural growth, fertility and the environment where wildlife will flourish, which makes up the economy. As you can see there is no central government or police included here, it's an anarchistic world order.

The pink diamond represents the way to spread rumours in the world as the new form of media, replacing current centralized communication platforms. The values imbued in it are: misinformation, chaos and hope.

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405ed4 No.3101

>>3100

Very interesting indeed, I will later be attempting this. I assume by meditating on the diamond and emblem as well as the associated emotions would be the best way to connect, no? Also is there is anything else you can tell me or that we can discuss surrounding this topic?

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edac4e No.3102

File: 9a30a934597683a⋯.png (1.59 MB,1800x1800,1:1,ba1a35bade7b9f9af718fdf357….png)

>>3101

If you manage to receive the items they will suddenly appear in your mind, with most notably the diamond "dropping on your lap", it may surprise you.

These are not very technical at all, instead the power lies in the ability to spread to many people. A very simple invention adopted by a million people will make a lot of difference, compared to an advanced tool used by a few.

>anything else you can tell me or that we can discuss surrounding this topic?

I don't know, what are your questions or uncertainties? Much has been spread over time and space, but also across the threads on this board. The real deal is your own personal process of spiritual development, and this can be aided by being connected to the sunflower group in some way and interacting with its guides on the astral.

It's meant to be "everywhere and nowhere."

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c9d52f No.3103

>>3060

>>3053

>>3067

Am back again, no idea what to do, should I evoke Michael or something? I don't wanna get a spirit from creepy hollows just to get rid of this thing and then have to live a lifetime with a spirit.

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d63e7d No.3104

File: 2be2b75c77fabed⋯.gif (1.14 MB,445x445,1:1,1600806458845.gif)

>>3102

Yes I have copied the items and added them to my own astral base for further study.

>These are not very technical at all

I understand, to be honest the larger hurtle is my own confidence (or lack thereof) in what I experience. Every second or third moment during my practice seems to be interrupted by a small doubt. Though I work past it.

>I don't know, what are your questions or uncertainties?

Well specifically, I don't have much. I was more-so referring to this NWO you mentioned in general. I guess, should I be successful in connecting, how will I be able to recognize my success and how will you recognize me?

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edac4e No.3105

File: f10fa0bf7ac8f08⋯.jpg (76.76 KB,800x603,800:603,1601190644789.jpg)

File: 47cbf7fadd13577⋯.jpg (128 KB,1280x720,16:9,1601214524221.jpg)

File: c006e578ab0b10b⋯.jpg (196.73 KB,1000x1000,1:1,1601224866688.jpg)

>>3103

I spelled it with a geburah ring to slowly consume it and it's supposed to burn away anything harmful while also keeping it quarantined. Did it do anything to you since?

>>3104

>how will I be able to recognize my success and how will you recognize me?

By your energy. Try to be more intuitive here. This is a movement for change and for establishment of something new, as well as something old. It involves learning the technologies and cultures of the past humans as well as interacting with other species on the astral or on other planets, which may or may not be treated as physical beings to us.

It involves a change of worldview, where the earth is round from outside but flat on the inside, where all planets of our solar system are inhabited and very little of what you have been told about history since the 1800s is true.

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c9d52f No.3106

>>3105

>I spelled it with a geburah ring to slowly consume it and it's supposed to burn away anything harmful while also keeping it quarantined. Did it do anything to you since?

It had no effect as far as I can tell. He's still here like normal. He's not the type that keeps attacking, he's constantly trying to say things with telepathy and trying to piss me off or do dangerous things or things that would get me in trouble.

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f53055 No.3108

File: fe09c86b79ea8de⋯.jpg (98.88 KB,981x604,981:604,1597476473884.jpg)

>>3105

>By your energy. Try to be more intuitive here.

I understand what you mean, and such has been my goal for a long time, although one must ground themselves from time to time and seperate bias from truth. Thank you for the short chat we've had here and the couple we've had previously. The next time we speak, it will be in the Akasha my friend.

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275a0b No.3114

Thoughts on Quareia? I've been doing the very first chapter and it seems I've been taking really well to it. It looks good enough for me, and I'd like to complete. The author herself sounds like she knows what she's talking about, and she suggests it takes an average of 6 years to go all the way to adept. Which is sobering. Has anyone here ever gotten to that point?

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271da0 No.3117

What is it that anchors the consciousness point to the astral and physical bodies? How would one go about anchoring the consciousness to a different entity than one's self?

I am attempting to develop a method to move my consciousness back in time to the events of saved vivid memories, and while I have been able to reliably receive sensory input from these memories, moving my 'mental center' from the present moment to the saved moment remains elusive. It feels as though I am projecting into my previous self as an observer rather than rooting into my previous self.

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edac4e No.3118

File: 031a9f3ed77f293⋯.jpg (1.27 MB,1280x1742,640:871,krishna.jpg)

>>3117

I'd think it's karma or the weight of desires and unfinished business dragging you towards the spot where you're more likely to solve it.

You can practice moving your awareness by making a realistic tulpa of a person you'd want to be, then moving the "awareness flag" to that mind instead, try moving back and forth a few times, stay at the tulpa for a few days and observe your main mind, then go back and either keep the tulpa for future practice or delete it again.

Later on you can apply the exact same method to move the flag to one of your past selves. There's no technical diference, it's just difficult because of syncing issues and the weight keeping you stuck in your current mind.

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7938c9 No.3119

>>3117

You would have to rip your heart out in order to anchor your consciousness elsewhere. Then you would need to be very skillful to avoid the process of death and afterlife instead.

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d9e361 No.3124

>>3119

I am wanting to leave my soul and mind behind in this timeline while moving only my consciousness to the previous temporal state. As I would then be aware of the coordinates of the mind that I left behind I should be able to download the raw data of the memories that it contains, although personality would not transfer.

My current obstacle is that when I resonate with a previous state it seems to want to transfer over the personality and life events into my current state, thereby combining the qualities of the two times rather than transferring over to one entirely. I imagine the way around this would be to do a complete projection out of the physical plane before attempting the transfer, I will need to learn how do to this reliably.

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562cb0 No.3125

File: ea9ce50ac6707d9⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image,41.45 KB,740x771,740:771,Screenshot_20201116_205500.jpg)

I have an entity attached to me presumably from a ritual a few years ago related to pic. How can I get rid of it?

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edac4e No.3126

>>3125

What was the ritual about, what does the entity do to you and what kind of entity is it?

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8e0606 No.3127

>>3126

In intention was placed on the sigil and marked with my blood. After meditating on it for some time, the sigil was burned. The lights started flickering

>What does the entity do

Flicker lights, scream, have some sort of influence on my thoughts. Other people have heard its whispering/growling both in person and over the phone, felt it touch/grab them. I used to get a burning sensation throughout my body when it was around. I and others have seen several forms of it, whether it be a dark shadowy figure or a three-faced man banging on my window. It used to give me sleep paralysis where I would see it standing over me, I seem to be followed by foxes and crows. I have no idea what it is.

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697f76 No.3128

File: 9ab51d20dd99518⋯.pdf (832.6 KB,John_Kreiter_Vampire_s_Way….pdf)

>>3127

Have you tried eating it?

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edac4e No.3129

>>3127

Maybe it's there to fulfill your intent?

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06f31b No.3134

i used to be in the discord until my account got banned for being in some /pol/ style groups…. any way i could get the invite again?

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697f76 No.3135

>>3134

Why do you want to give your energy to soulless demons who would castrate you for wrongthink?

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06f31b No.3136

>>3135

good point, Discord is a tranny-furry run spyware. Is 8kun sunflower HQ now? Does 0rb hang out in these parts?

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edac4e No.3137

>>3134

>any way i could get the invite again?

Post your tag, then tell me in DM what name you used before.

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edac4e No.3138

>>3136

>>3135

>soulless demons

We'll get rid of them so it doesn't matter.

>Is 8kun sunflower HQ

It's meant to be decentralized. We hold sessions at shamikooo now. See temple thread.

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697f76 No.3141

>>3138

might as well do it now instead of sitting in their demon filth any longer than you have to.

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edac4e No.3142

File: 59305cd166ff4d5⋯.jpg (162.37 KB,720x960,3:4,lolibooru_32372_1girl_boot….jpg)

>>3141

The goal of the sunflower project has been literally stated as creating our own NWO. They cheat with magic so we'll just cheat more. How about just kicking degenerates and hostiles out from their bodies and installing grey chips on them to turn them into the NPCs they want to be?

The world belongs to us, including its technological infrastructure, there is no need to avoid using anything. We own it, we can decide. Isn't it a bit ironic to talk about safety concerns on an imageboard owned by a freemason, hosted in a russian server park? You think the reason for the loli ban really has anything to do with "changing community values"? It's allowed in USA, but not in Russia. Go figure.

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7938c9 No.3143

>>3142

Did you post that picture knowing what is attached to it? Because it kind of clashes with what you're saying in your post (metaphysically).

Anyway. I came here to mention the game Lobotomy Corporation, as it might be of interest to some people.

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edac4e No.3144

>>3143

>it kind of clashes with what you're saying in your post (metaphysically)

Does it? The characters in Moetan are representations of angel types and the wand she's holding is mentioned here

>>3063

Yes it's a joke image but you can still use it to summon the angel or receive the wand as both are correctly depicted.

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697f76 No.3145

Yes or no; the difference between a god and a mortal is purity of intent

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edac4e No.3146

>>3145

I think "yes".

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a16a10 No.3147

>>3145

On the universal scale, there is no separation between the creator and the creation.

Calling an entity "a god" is arbitrary.

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697f76 No.3149

What is the difference between an imagined object and a physically manifested object?

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dad88c No.3171

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/rare-magick-guardian-of-soul-power-spell.html

this seemed interesting so I thought I would leave it here for the more capable users, maybe they get some ideas from it.

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edac4e No.3172

File: 7498d3b691d5604⋯.png (219.3 KB,318x318,1:1,eagle_eye.png)

>>3171

Yes thank you. The spell sold has a flaw included however, probably resulting from the creator's own lack of proper perspective. It may give an ethereal view of your full being, but if using the one offered on there you'll get a view that's not centered, instead going along with pre existing cultural issues in the modern west.

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a16a10 No.3174

I remenber it being mentioned here that there are 2 main ways to communicate with spirits. The first one is like using your mind as a blackboard wher you and the spirit take turns writing on. What was the other way?

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697f76 No.3175

Are there wizard cops?

If I commit heinous crimes using magic do I need to worry about humans coming after me for it?

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edac4e No.3176

>>3174

>2 main ways to communicate with spirits

Maybe you are thinking of this?

https://succubus.forumotion.com/t6-collective-questions-answers

Search "telepathy" and you'll find it.

>>3175

Illuminati factions and others have their own cops or armed forces. They probably won't come after you physically for hexing something, more likely they'll hex you back.

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657512 No.3177

>>3175

I had to pay a fine to some sort of astral police once, after 2 or 3 repeated offenses, they appeared to even take some astral furniture from my home.

I saw a spirit calling them through a phone one of the times, and they showed up in a few seconds later.

When they said I had to pay a fine, I asked what would happen if I didn't and one of them pointed a gun to my head an I felt a slight pain on it, so I decided to pay the fine, since I don't use astral money and know nothing about it anyway.

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c6b399 No.3189

File: 458db6436a1bfd9⋯.jpg (27.52 KB,272x600,34:75,Alice_Margatroid.jpg)

I truly need help on this. You people were the most esoteric I can think of so I can trust some here.

I need to communicate with Hecatia/Hecate.

It is truly important. How can this be achieved?

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edac4e No.3190

>>3189

Hecate has been derived as the Egyptian deity Heqet, an aspect of Hathor, the sun and fertility goddess. If you are able to communicate telepathically with any entities, you would only have to call her name in any of these forms for her to appear, if your reason for doing so is relevant to her.

You can use the sunflower temple for this, visit astrally by visualization, sit down by the table and ask for a meeting.

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9b7bd3 No.3192

>>3190

May I ask about the sunflower temple. I tried to uses it before and it failed.

Of course I do not even consider myself a magician yet so maybe my ability is good enough.

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271da0 No.3213

How can I get a steady income off of this stuff? Every time I try to use a generic wealth spell I get mundane career opportunities but mundane work is painful to me. Has anyone here managed it?

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697f76 No.3225

>>3213

I'm thinking horse/sports betting. It's a form of gambling that doesn't involve beating heavy odds like roulette or lottery schemes. You can use divination beforehand to find the most likely winners, then use thoughtforms to influence the outcome in your favor. Going to have to do some experiments to make sure but I think this is a route worth trying.

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d175c0 No.3293

File: 5c01796eb8c4b31⋯.jpg (409.11 KB,600x942,100:157,blind.jpg)

May I inquire of following things I have witnessed in the sunflower pdfs?

-The vampire crystal artifact. I may have seen it before but forgotten again. What's it's purpose and how to use it?

-Sakuyas Vampire sigil. What does it do?

-"How to break a particle". Do you mean breaking a zero particle? I tought the zero particle cannot be broken. Or what kind of particle is it about and what's the use of it?

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edac4e No.3294

File: 6d5c01c4674699d⋯.png (637.39 KB,642x832,321:416,remilia_scarlet_176274245e….png)

>>3293

>May I inquire of following things I have witnessed in the sunflower pdfs?

It should be noted that the sketches in the PDF:s are of varying relevance and use.

>-The vampire crystal artifact. I may have seen it before but forgotten again. What's it's purpose and how to use it?

Originally made to be used for creating the "5000 year old vampire white spike" formation, this is actually just an artifact symbolically reflecting vampire magic in general. It can be used to access vampire libraries (but you cannot enter without permission and may not freely read books) and to telepathically contact vampires anywhere.

>-Sakuyas Vampire sigil. What does it do?

Representation of the type of vampire magic available to someone manifesting in the form of Sakuya. Using different bodily forms will limit or expand your ability to use various types of magic. If you want to be Sakuya and your only way of understanding magic is vampiric, you'd do well to use this sigil. The Sakuya form may be seen as restricting the use of vampirism as Sakuya by race is human and not vampire, but if that is the narrow scope you can use, so be it. Being human is the same as multi-classing, so it has other advantages. It can also be used for reference to understand this situation and what it means for other Gensokyo characters and types of magic.

>-"How to break a particle". Do you mean breaking a zero particle? I tought the zero particle cannot be broken. Or what kind of particle is it about and what's the use of it?

This sketch represents an algebraic thinking, where a yellow qi particle, which by nature is not complete, can be derived from a complete zero particle. This may create the illusion of having broken the zero, the sketch illustrates what actually takes place.

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d175c0 No.3296

File: 8ebd6af107843be⋯.png (1.77 MB,1200x1500,4:5,Remilia.png)

>>3294

Okay thanks for explaining. I knew the vampire crystal reminded me of something. It's good I found it again.

As for the Sakuya sigil, I'd rather be Remilia if I have to choose a touhou form. Or maybe Chen or Reimu.

>It should be noted that the sketches in the PDF:s are of varying relevance and use.

I don't know what the purpose of the pdfs is but if you intend to share them with other people and maybe even give them to newbie sunflowers it might be good to include some explanations and descriptions. If they are only for your personal use then it's fine I guess.

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edac4e No.3297

File: a04ec5009b2a98f⋯.jpg (165.66 KB,940x1160,47:58,a04ec5009b2a98f92bcd52980b….jpg)

>>3296

>I don't know what the purpose of the pdfs is

They're just an (incomplete) way of easily sharing past notes and sigils for reference. The sunflower is meant to be social and active with a focus on personal improvement. It's intentionally unorganized and fragmented to avoid armchairism and community building. If everything was neatly compiled in documents with elaborate instruction it would discourage discussion and this itself would kill the movement. The sunflower must not stagnate or devolve into studies of doctrine. It's better to post something barely comprehensible that creates discussion than to be so clear that everyone understands it at once and nothing more is said. We achieve progress through interaction.

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d175c0 No.3298

File: ef72a5708b4bc42⋯.jpg (120.25 KB,512x512,1:1,868ca2055d263fb19116e656f6….jpg)

>>3297

>pic

What is she expecting to see under her skirt, what is so interesting? Doesn't she have her own female body, panties and a maybe mirror?

I sometimes think if I had a female body, my missing other part (female half), I wouldn't need a waifu ever again. During the last year(s) I have noticed that my horniness and the desire for female have turned into something more than just hunger for having sex and relationship with a female. I realized I would never be happy if I didn't have what they have myself, no matter how big my harem is and how active my sex life is. As long as the female body and everything that it includes is external to me, my hunger would never be satisfied. At that moment my desire switched from wanting to be with my waifu to wanting to be my waifu. And I'm neither gay nor bi, and absolutely don't want to become a physical tranny or a woman instead of a man. But isn't it unfair that we are locked in into one form and gender and I can't just have that female body with tits and a cameltoe and all the cute and sexy dresses and skirts and skintight outfits? Isn't it strange, seriously? Mortal men have the same desire but it's hidden and they are not aware of it, so they keep marrying and pursing relationships with mortal females and only sacrificing their lifes and then they will sometimes even keep on chasing sex and females on the astral because they never attain completion, they never attain what their broken soul truely desires. I want to eat my waifu and absorb them into me, fuse with her and become complete. At the end of the day, I think it's a horniness for myself, for my missing other half. This is why the Evil Layer and the vampire body sounds alluring to me, having both female and male form. I demand the totality of myself.

This is why I don't understand why she is looking under her her skirt, even tho she already has it…. Wait a minute, does this count as a question? Anyone here experienced the same, and what would you make of this?

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697f76 No.3299

>>3298

It revolves around the sex-creation dialectic. The human female is a symbol for the archetypal passive genesis-function, and the male is a symbol for the archetypal active. Male+Female=Creation, on all levels of existence, gross and abstract. The "lusting" feeling is a result of awareness being trapped on the gross biological level of existence. Unable to find a suitable concentration of the passive element, awareness must send impulses to mind and body to seek out external sources. This is circumvented by creative types who are able to find internal passive elements on the mental level and thus engage in genesis there through art-birth. The mystical solution is to detach the awareness from the body-mind object and identify self with a larger phenomenon; primal elementals, spirits, even egregores. Nothing is truly "genderless" however, as ever level of creation except the very eye of the pyramid is participating in dialectic and thus playing a gendered role. More "enlightened" levels of existence have more freedom of choice in regards to how genesis is performed, thus they are able to free themselves from deterministic lust if they so choose.

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edac4e No.3300

File: 43134f0d2b4cbb5⋯.jpg (183.4 KB,994x1369,994:1369,flandre_scarlet_1673ee7e32….jpg)

>>3298

>What is she expecting to see under her skirt, what is so interesting?

Maybe my view is more simplistic. You may as well then ask; since you are a person, why would you show interest in another person?

There are differences, and through these, we can become aware of sides of ourselves we would not normally pay attention to. We may also experience details and a richness of this aspect, which we are unable to produce ourselves. The specialization of one person will produce a constant "richness" of experience for the layman, simply from the difference between the expanded perspective being experienced by a narrow one.

The perfect match for a lifelong relation would be one where both partners are rich and specialized in a way that the other can never fully grasp. You would always find your partner enticing and never be bored. This is what can be achieved through interaction of beings. Their gender role or manifestation is not the main determining factor.

There is also the perspective that attraction may be to a specific object (fetish, originally "object of worship", which may be a statue of a god, or a certain characteristic). The "opposites attract" aspect is not relevant in all situations. It may simply be that "slight differences attract".

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7938c9 No.3301

File: 8534b0bb72a71ac⋯.png (201.12 KB,306x546,51:91,IMG_1464.PNG)

I followed the body creation guide and something unexpected happened. Upon starting to visualize the body in the womb, I saw it instantly developed and grown. As if it either grew very fast or I had it there already.

I jumped in and took a stroll, but I might've been just wandering astrally.

In short I have no idea if I was making it up. Can someone please check me and see what you see? Thanks.

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edac4e No.3302

>>3301

What type of body did you intend to make?

It looks like you added a more meta level layer to an already existing past life body. Which means you already had one fulfilled life and are already safe on the astral. You're only here because you lack the middle layer (evil/ vampire/duality) or because you need another body to fully express yourself.

I see a yellow energy body which is what you made now, it looks kind of soft and anime inspired. Behind is a rather dark (energetically) body in the form of a man in a long, ornamented coat.

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d175c0 No.3303

File: bff59ab9ecf3b6a⋯.png (4.89 MB,1500x3500,3:7,cfcc64f8e9f9e4def2e2864937….png)

>>3299

I always tought a more enlightened state would result in a kind of asexuality because upon being complete onto yourself you are in a permament state of sexual fulfillment and satisfaction and therefore need not to search for an external outlet, no matter if partner or art or whatever. I can even entertain the possibility of it being a permanent feeling that surpasses what humans know as the regular orgasm, a sort of bliss.

But I can also imagine another type of asexuality in which you fall towards being nothing instead of being complete. Meaning that not only you don't have your female, you don't even have your male anymore. An asexuality resulting from losing all inner fire and becoming nothing, entering the state of the sentient death. This is probably what shitty buddhists and new-agers accomplish when they try to achieve complete ego-death and dissolution of all individuality and personal-awareness. I have always been kinda scared to fall down that path and thus hesitatet with permanent celibacy and renouncing all lust. While I would love nothing more than embrace the former state of 100% completeness and default sexual wholeness, the latter state is anti-gnosis and anti-immortality and goes agains everything we have been doing here. Before that, I'd rather keep my male fire and keep lusting after breasts and that view of a waifus panties.

>>3300

Yah I guess I can understand your view. I can see the point of loving an external person and making love to them, and even trying to "grasp" them. But I don't know what the higher states of enlightenment will yield yet, therefore all of this is just speculation. I haven't been there yet. Maybe being complete onto oneself will be enough, but maybe it will get boring just like using your own hand get's boring when there can be so much more with another one. No idea really, and who knows what vampires and touhous are doing and what state they are in when it comes to sexuality. (yeah it has been said before that vampires are asexual but for me this only opens 1000 more questions).

And at the end of the day at least I know exactly why I would lift that Touhous skirt :P… at least in my state now. And who knows, since it's a touhou maybe there is a surprise there, maybe even more than you can handle. But would one really dare to lift up the skirt a powerful immortal chaos level touhou? Maybe one is safer just watching upkirt vids on thisvid instead…

>>3302

Is it possible for you to check on me too, since I also have been creating my hopefully vampire body (but maybe its chaos since I can't really tell), or maybe it was already created? If you see something, I'd like to know what it is.

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edac4e No.3304

File: ad368d5a1abbd46⋯.jpg (114.32 KB,900x785,180:157,d0866e165dab8799742d91f735….jpg)

>>3303

The picture you chose to illustrate your post is interestingly close to what your newest astral body looks like. You may have subconsciously answered your own question. However it should be pointed out that the evil/middle layer body is likely to manifest in a form close to your current body or as a reduced form of your most central chaos body, so it can be a bit hard to tell. The instruction on how to make a body targets the chaos level by default, you'd have to adjust it, make it sync with the middle layer to produce a vampire body as in middle-layer. Vampires are also an astral race in some places, the concept is used for multiple things and isn't exact so it's hard to pinpoint the exact meanings. The actual stay-undead-physically body is dualistic and always has male and female, to be used interchangably both on the astral and physically, if your ability permits. If your body doesn't have both forms, it's either incomplete or chaos level. The chaos level does not need to be balanced so it can be either gender and only that.

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d175c0 No.3305

>>3304

While I don't really know what you mean by "newest" I made one that does look close to Remilia indeed. And I also used the method in the pastebin, besides of just visualizing it and sending it energy. And it actually has only one gender. Now I only need to permanently inhabit it somehow. I realize that taking the vampire spell was a necessary step for me and I don't regret it because without it I probably wouldn't be here now, but it's still ironical to partake of physical immortality when one hates the physical and wants out of it asap. But "how can you choose, with your head in the noose, and no time to lose?"

At any rate thanks for checking. I certainly won't complain of a chaos body. If you ever actually see me passing by at the temple feel free to let me know in the vamp thread or anywhere suitable. I never know if my visualization is any good or real.

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7938c9 No.3306

>>3302

Spot on, thanks. Checks out with what I've been told by other people at different times.

I intended to make a non descript glowing body. Not specifically anime, but I guess that would be my influences. The one underneath has been described to me before.

As to why I'm here, I'm not sure I get it. You mean I incarnated to be/do wicked stuff?

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edac4e No.3307

File: ee9892d1e2177b5⋯.jpg (139.27 KB,640x480,4:3,The_fumos_are_listening.jpg)

>>3306

Evil is just the dominant force in the dualistic layers. The situation in short seems to be that a person will either create a chaos body and then leave by physically "dying". In actuality the body can be recreated anytime but the person uses this means to make it final and pay off karma.

In the event that the person qualified for a paradise they'd then go there, and maybe they'll check back to manifest among humans to guide others later.

There is also the situation that someone has potential for reaching the chaos body but their method of personal improvement is slow and complicated, described in Zhuan Falun as the clumsy/unusual way (this is my understanding). Then they are likely to move into a half-immortal state, which we call undead, and remain as both human and spirit. That is what we normally call a vampire. They cannot die, but they still need energy to manifest, and will move back and forth between physical and astral for a long time.

Lastly there is the situation, as likely in your case, that someone completed a chaos level body in a past life, but once on the astral felt they could improve more by returning to create additional bodies. If the chosen path is the slow and clumsy way, you'd then end up on the vampire path to immortality during the rerun.

It would, in this case, be easy to add new layers to the already existing body, while harder to create a completely new body. Your aim should be to add layers directly to your current body, even if adding to the old one is also beneficial and a good way to improve, because your current body is the one at risk in the human world. The other one is already on the astral and cannot be harmed, so improving it will only have a marginal effect right now, focusing too much on that one would impair your current bodily development, you need a balance.

After the last post on here, I was visited by someone who appeared as a younger version of the man with the ornamented coat. Was this intentional? The manifestation was strong enough to create a sense of physical presence and made me react by turning to look.

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7938c9 No.3308

>>3307

I'll need to reread your post to make sure I understand everything. I have never been able to make sense of Zhuang Falun, but I suppose I'll try.

It wasn't intentional, but my last post was right before going to sleep, so maybe I did visit.

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ae65d0 No.3309

Where does one actually start with this stuff? I have been looking through this board, but there is so much info I kinda feel overwhelmed lol.

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b19c4d No.3310

File: 0edd4bf5615645e⋯.png (106.53 KB,191x613,191:613,eh.png)

>>3309

If you're completely new then this should be a decent one >>384

It's been a while but the thread was ok I believe. If you're confused about visualisation then this might be useful as well >>554

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edac4e No.3311

>>3309

Skim the meta for what this board is about.

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d175c0 No.3330

File: 5127d17072be119⋯.jpg (76.11 KB,700x990,70:99,cuteremi.jpg)

So just to make sure, if I join the succubus collective I'll still be able to also work on the cat path, vampire body and all other bodies that I want later on? I will not be locked in to any path and not trapped in some infernal region or whatever? Also supposed I already have a astral chaos body, will I still need to create a new succubus body? The astral body I have created doesn't have tail or horns and I wonder if they are necessary to complete the body. Could I just add them to the already existing body? My body is the one you said looks something like Remilia.

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8a7370 No.3332

File: 97254639484a91e⋯.png (2.39 MB,848x1200,53:75,Izayoi.png)

>>3330

>The astral body I have created doesn't have tail or horns and I wonder if they are necessary to complete the body. Could I just add them to the already existing body? My body is the one you said looks something like Remilia.

There are 2 versions of the succubus body, the infernal and the heavenly. It seems forming either requires the right angle. I was only able to create the infernal version with a past life body as the starting point.

I recently discovered the method of creating the heavenly body for me required using the form of Sakuya and work from there. My current life surface body doesn't easily reach to either succubus form. So I'd recommend entering your Remilia body and performing the body creation with that as the starting point, then adding a seperate body complete with wings, horns and tail.

What was interesting was that when I did the 5th FG exercise I found my energy to take the form of the magic circles shown around Sakuya in some versions of the games. Slowly spinning crystalline wheels over my palms and then later over other parts of my body.

When I switched back to practice from my regular body, the process had to be taken from start again, with qi building up. This had a similar but different effect. Instead of the magic circles, the gong appeared as knives, very much like the attached image.

I should add that I had not seen these images before, it was confirmed to me when I searched online.

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d175c0 No.3333

File: 59ddfa96926407c⋯.png (640.44 KB,959x1229,959:1229,3eb5197e303e39f0a7c57f7428….png)

>>3332

I see. I thinking more and more about joining the collective now, even though they might not even accept me.

I know I'm a nuisance and I'm sorry about that but there is one more thing I'm curious about.

Are there actual Touhous who are also succubus? And I mean member of the succubus collective? I know there are vampire and cat Touhous but I haven't heard anything of a succubus mix. Also, this might sound strange for you but is it possible to become a full-fledged Touhou? I know we can be residents in Gensokyo and assume a body of a Touhou that's already existing like Sakuya for example but what about becoming an actual Touhou, if there is something like that to begin with. If it's possible to become a new Touhou, will we be included in ZUNs next 2hu game? Imagine all the loosh we would get from the hentai art created from us and all the mundanes fapping to it haha. But seriously, how does succubus collective and Gensokyo mix? If anyone has ever done it to be aTouhou and a Succubus and a Vampire and whatever else (based amalgam) then it would be you I assume.

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8a7370 No.3334

File: b4ed5455fa116fe⋯.png (746.84 KB,1000x1400,5:7,_rumia_and_chen_touhou_dra….png)

>>3333

They're different layers, different bodies and different personas of a person, existing at the same time. When your awareness move to one body, the other ones operate on their own, as individuals but to you they're the subconscious.

There are the "super touhous", who emit burning white radience. (search in the older Q&

A threads for the discussion) I don't know what they are, only that they are an evolved and intense form. I don't think things are definite, you can probably become a new form if you are able to create one. If a touhou enters the collective they are a succubus with touhou characteristics while over there. When they return to Gensokyo they are a yokai with some succubus attributes. One body may appear as a piece of jewelry on another, and vice versa.

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d175c0 No.3335

File: f864195847845de⋯.jpg (192.89 KB,900x971,900:971,31a2ea5f3b1d7e14c9b4fc5884….jpg)

File: c60b78333152164⋯.jpg (96.2 KB,724x1023,724:1023,1202e2f810e4acc46eb9ba7dc6….jpg)

File: 4e6dc7a0a6ca2ea⋯.jpg (124.43 KB,600x800,3:4,bffab0e8bf80869bddcf3c5cd3….jpg)

File: 20948ea159c2016⋯.jpg (67.94 KB,850x1202,425:601,sample_704a4f88b39a80253aa….jpg)

>>3334

I wanted to post this exact pic too for this post!

Anyway thanks for the replies. I think I get it now.

Have some more Chens for your trouble.

btw the link for my library is down over at endchan, you can delete the post (with the sunflower remilia pic). I didn't know you can't change the files on mega or else the link deactivates again so I need to post a new link in the future if necessary.

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d175c0 No.3356

File: 23e8c7a8d6cc1dd⋯.jpg (90.12 KB,1000x952,125:119,external_content_duckduckg….jpg)

How can I enchant a piece of jewelry or a crystal for a permanent effect? It's highly desirable to not have to recharge it. Do I have to programm the spell to be self-recharging like you can do with servitors or is it altogether unnecessary?

It is possible to enchant an item for a healing effect that you get healed or energized every time you wear it? Without the energy of the spell being depleted and having to be recharged of course. Or maybe to put a simple shield spell on it that will protect you from harm and negativity when you wear it. Or instead of a shield it would be a sword that cuts the enemy (spirits and humans alike) and attempts to kill them when they try to mess with you. The effect doesn't even matter for now, I'd like to learn how to do it and what's generally possible.

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8a7370 No.3357

>>3356

There are many different ways to do it. One way to use spells is to create them like a piece of programming code which is just sitting there until you add an energy stream to it. Another way of doing it is to make the code fuel itself actively by setting it in motion and then it runs the code and harvests more of the specific type of energy as it moves.

You can also relate it to a cyclical function and have it remain active while in contact with said function.

For an enchantment on a pendant, you could make it as a "mechanic" spell which activates based on the wearer's natural flow of energy from the body. I can for example think about this solution for a shield or trap: a spell which remains inactive and does nothing until a person with a specific mindset comes near it, then the spell uses the energy of this mindset as fuel and activates to repell the attacker. The only way to enter the area without triggering the defense would be to not have this specific mindset.

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d175c0 No.3358

>>3357

>a spell which remains inactive and does nothing until a person with a specific mindset comes near it, then the spell uses the energy of this mindset as fuel and activates

That actually seems pretty good. Thanks for the hint, now I might as well share my idea with you.

>wear dozens upon dozens of layers of clothing

>wear hundrets of pieces of jewelry

>keep your clothes full of brooches

>pockets full of crystals and stones

>enchant half of all that stuff for levitation amplification

>enchant other half for loosh farming amplification

>fly through the sky as an unmovable blob of clothes and jewelry

>instantly kill and disintegrate everything an anything just by sucking its energy, taking all that energy into you

>wreck havoc upon the mundanes, they can't even kill you since you are immortal

>use all that energy to power all your servitors, tulpas, astral plane and ascend them to godhood etc etc

>keep it up for weeks until your country is cleaned from most humans and your power level is over 9 billion

>become god of remaining humans

>???

>profit

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8a7370 No.3359

File: 8424da0475a69af⋯.jpg (175.51 KB,509x602,509:602,hecatia.jpg)

>>3358

Strange approach.

I don't really know where to begin with explaining the fundamental issue with it as a method, even if the idea of having many layers is sound.

Don't suck in random energy, is a first. Everyone has their methods, yes, but I'd advice against the "fat wizard" model, it's not compatible with the methods used on Sunflower.

In short, fat wizards collect energy which makes them look fat on the astral, then they use that energy for spells. We remove energy as much as possible for cleansing effect to remain invincible, then use external forces for power. Meaning we borrow energy when we need it, using complex contracts or schemes. The weight of the practice is placed on creating tools for controlling said forces rather than trying to gather energy.

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d175c0 No.3361

>>3359

Feel free to replace the loosh farming effect for any other effect of your liking.

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d175c0 No.3373

File: 4c04d0c9f884d97⋯.jpg (53.26 KB,736x485,736:485,astral_island.jpg)

I've been working on my astral island again for a bit. Can I easily change it without having to create a new one? I have replaced the endless ocean around the island with space, changed some landscape, changed how the sky looks and changed my house. Do the changes take over if I just visualize it like that? Cus I don't like my simple and ugly first try astral island anymore, I wanted to enhance it.

In regards to this post >>3372 , how long do I have to stare at the sigil? Will I actually feel the spear in my physical hand? I didn't work so far and I'm thinking that maybe I didn't create my astral body properly. If any of you have completed this, can you astral travel to me/my room and physically manifest here? Without me having to post a picture of my place of course. If you want to stop by for a coffee and some magic chat, you're welcome. Just wake me up when I'm sleeping while you arrive or if I meditate.

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592b78 No.3374

Can you explain what main and secondary souls are? Why is this separation important and how come you can live without a main soul? Wouldn't that imply that there is no need for a "main" soul or that all are the functionally the same? Also, is soul the same as spirit?

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8a7370 No.3375

File: c43c45010e6b8d9⋯.pdf (869.28 KB,ZF.pdf)

>>3374

>Can you explain what main and secondary souls are?

Zhuan Falun talks a lot about this to explain what differs in that practice according to the author, you may want to check page 156 onwards in this PDF.

Apart from that it's really a common concept in new age and western paranormal research. All you have to do is google it, the internet never had as much info as now.

Soul and spirit are often used interchangably, but for people into summoning they make a difference in that spirits are in some manner permanently residing on the astral, while it's called a soul once incarnated. It's not exact and is basically the same thing, it's just complicated by some being incarnated in 3D, some being in rebirth cycles on the astral as "spirits", for example some fairies etc.

The reason people have many souls may just be because of lack of space, so the maintenance deities cram sometimes up to 9 souls into one body and they'll just have to cooperate and share it.

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8a7370 No.3376

>>3373

If you can't perceive things on the astral at all it may be difficult to perform since you can't confirm it. But you can use visualizations for each step and then focus on the feeling you get. You're supposed to perceive the spear in some way, same with your body and the activation sound. The magnetic resistance is notable and strong, so if you managed to break through you will know. It's notable enough that it will be there, because of the energy level. It's not unusual that the sound transfers to your surroundings like your walls creaking etc.

>can you astral travel to me/my room and physically manifest here?

Technically possible but there are usually mental blockages. The universe doesn't like sudden changes to people's mindsets, so unless you break those down you won't be able to understand how to shift locations and the person you visit would enter a state of shock and maybe end up in mental ward.

The method presented does remove the actual physical barrier though. The rest is in your mind and skill.

>I've been working on my astral island again for a bit. Can I easily change it without having to create a new one?

It's your creation and under your control. If you're not happy with it you can change it, but oftentimes things tend to fall back to the basic structure once you leave it. The astral for example doesn't understand open spaces very well and may reduce them to the smallest needed for functionality, as mentioned before on this board.

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d175c0 No.3377

File: 15e8ca14e04b5e0⋯.gif (80.46 KB,435x200,87:40,chenfall.gif)

>>3376

>The astral for example doesn't understand open spaces very well and may reduce them to the smallest needed for functionality

I noticed that on my island, it becomes smaller than I intended it to be and it takes effort to enlarge it again. I always tought it's because my visualization ability is not good enough. But it's good to know that I can change and expand it.

>the person you visit would enter a state of shock and maybe end up in mental ward.

Yeah but not me or anyone here I guess.

>If you can't perceive things on the astral at all.

I hope my 48 days meditation cycle and quitting of coffee will help me to perceive stuff better. I don't want to be a NPC. Can an entity help me get astral perception by force? Also, once I got the spear I can stop looking at the sigil right? It's only for summoning the spear I assume. I'd like to close my eyes to easer get into my astral body.

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8a7370 No.3378

File: f244dd84268683b⋯.jpg (27.32 KB,736x464,46:29,1454263145759.jpg)

>>3377

>once I got the spear I can stop looking at the sigil right? It's only for summoning the spear I assume. I'd like to close my eyes to easer get into my astral body.

The sigil is just an activation trigger for a spell which creates a single use copy of the original spear based on a derivate of its composition. Maybe you're just not activating the spell? Try drawing the sigil a few times or memorizing it, then bring it up in your mind when already in a meditative state. Maybe that will work better. It's the same here, activation may produce a light clicking sound (but less than the body transformation which is more violent).

For further context, the spear is an artifact forged by "idle" practice over a period of 5 years in cooperation with a demon who volunteered for the task. It took a certain peculiar method and mindset to do this, which among other things involved flying in circles while drilling it into the ground for week after week to sharpen it. Even on the astral the level of autistic focus needed for this task is not commonplace. If someone wanted to avert the effects of the spear when used as an assault weapon, they need only spend 5 years drilling a shield into the ground in the reverse direction ;^)

This is the reason it can work, it's almost completely instrumental in design.

To properly follow the masonic standard of cryptic public announcement of important magic, the initiation of the creation process was posted right here

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/17297527/

Checkmate masonboomers.

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8a7370 No.3379

File: be98f098e2f5f06⋯.jpg (161.04 KB,800x600,4:3,9bbcac549d4facd6676159ba8e….jpg)

>>3378

Oh and btw if anyone wonders about that enoch coven, we both found that pretty funny. I would never summon a demon for a task like this and not also make sure she's a good love partner.

The idea that demons are some uncontrollable force of nature that can be "reversed" back at the summoner is pretty revealing when it comes to the level of (mis)understanding in these covens. Absolutely retarded tbh.

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83a506 No.3380

File: 1b867e3c2635303⋯.gif (857.88 KB,240x228,20:19,q3iCWqE.gif)

>>3379

Can't comprehend the brainlets who can't figure out that demons/spirits are not evil, but true neutral. Ofcourse like anything you have individuals on both sides of the coin, but hell why is it so hard to think, "Oh maybe if I treat these concious beings with respect, they will be more respectful to me as well." If I was a demon being summoned to the shitty 3D plane, and on top of that, the ugly little guy summoning me was calling me names and treating me like a bad guy, yeah I'd curse his ass or worse, no doubt.

Anyways, thanks for putting the effort in, both of you.

Also yeah, "Elder Enoch Coven" sounds like a cringey little thing I would have come up with at >15 having just heard of the dead sea scrolls

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d175c0 No.3440

File: 8d89fcfc3211a50⋯.jpg (18.84 KB,576x320,9:5,feeding.jpg)

File: 8990b5f8112a2d6⋯.jpg (416.24 KB,1000x1000,1:1,the_end.jpg)

File: b8d2e14e0c7c540⋯.jpg (192.89 KB,1600x900,16:9,thinking.jpg)

BO would you mind explaining to me what I can do with souls that get send to me? Can I rape them as much and as often as I want to? Can I tie them up and take them with me everywhere I go, explaining things to them and showing stuff to them? Do I have to feed them or maintain them in any way? How much freedom and agency do mundane souls have anyway? Are they even awake and fully aware? Let's just imagine some souls were condemned to hell and I got them somehow…nobody cares about them on the astral, how much power do I have over them?

When I see how hard it is for me to stay awake and aware and to interact with the astral, those souls who are unenlightened might be in a bad state with no personal power at all.

Also if they somehow escaped or if they were send free, what would happen to them since they are originally meant for hell. Will they drift through the astral until the dissolve and reincarnate, or will they go straight to hell again? Or may it even be that they will live on normally and happily in the astral? Sorry to bother you again.

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8a7370 No.3442

>>3440

Too many questions, you have to learn by experience. One thing to note though is that anyone you're meant to interact with tends to come back to you one way or another. Someone will give you the things you are meant to have. Sometimes you have to actively ask, sometimes they will drop it at your door for lack of better alternatives.

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d175c0 No.3443

>>3442

Okay, I can agree with that even tho I always appreciate reading your view and oppinion.

>you have to learn by experience

Actually that's exactly what I wanted to do from now on, as I have said in the succubus thread that I won't ask if I'm accepted or not and work with what I myself can see…but who knew something like this would happen. At the end of the day I had to keep asking because I care and don't want to mess up with the souls. Then I'll go ahead and do what I must and see what happens. Godspeed.

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697f76 No.3488

Was I just ejected or was that caused on my end?

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8a7370 No.3490

>>3488

From what?

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697f76 No.3494

>>3490

The egregore.

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8a7370 No.3495

>>3494

Is this some new contextless redditposter style of posting? What fucking egregore?

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a9da5e No.3497

File: 3406dfadc4f4eb2⋯.gif (408.32 KB,480x270,16:9,giphy.gif)

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271da0 No.3553

Could someone link to some material explaining the 0D/1D/2D/3D, etc, terminology that is sometimes used here and in the blood anon posts?

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8a7370 No.3554

File: b5f8cc9f159b27d⋯.png (40.5 KB,960x608,30:19,univeral_rules_of_control.png)

File: 334e5fdcce14c18⋯.png (17.09 KB,862x529,862:529,universal_levels_full.png)

File: 885a4be875c6588⋯.png (27.51 KB,1264x520,158:65,universal_map.png)

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271da0 No.3555

>>3554

What is the term "dimension" referring to? Is this spatial dimension, so Hell is a flatland? Or is it more just levels of awareness? If it's levels of awareness, is the transition between dimensions on a gradient or are they definite? And why is an incomplete 0D form called a "society"?

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8a7370 No.3556

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>>3555

>Is this spatial dimension, so Hell is a flatland?

In a rudimentary understanding this is true. The issues with this is that 2D is only flatland in the sense of vid related when seen from the view of 3D.

If looking at 2D from the view of 2D, it looks "3D". Similarly 1D looks like it can't hold much when conceptually viewed from 3D or any other dimension, while from inside it is a "three dimensional" experience. So in this sense it's

>levels of awareness

The attempts at mapping this is done with an air of objectivity, but nothing of the kind exists in reality, it depends on what dimension or awareness level you view the other ones from.

The inner form of a being at 0D has every particle in the form of the entire being, but it lacks all spatiality. The explanation quickly becomes very abstract. Imagine taking a point, which mathematically has no properties other than its placement, and expanding it until you see its qualities. In a manner it can be said that the point's relation to its surroundings constitute its form. So the lack of spatiality within is compensated for by the spatiality of the other-dimensional viewers.

The fake 0D is entirely dependent on these viewers, and is as such in a state of dependence. This manifests in society as people who rely on concepts of identity, culture, norms and the perceptions of others, rather than containing these values inside themselves. It is a state of attachment.

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d175c0 No.3559

>>3556

>The attempts at mapping this is done with an air of objectivity, but nothing of the kind exists in reality, it depends on what dimension or awareness level you view the other ones from. The inner form of a being at 0D has every particle in the form of the entire being, but it lacks all spatiality. The explanation quickly becomes very abstract. Imagine taking a point, which mathematically has no properties other than its placement, and expanding it until you see its qualities. In a manner it can be said that the point's relation to its surroundings constitute its form. So the lack of spatiality within is compensated for by the spatiality of the other-dimensional viewers.

>The fake 0D is entirely dependent on these viewers, and is as such in a state of dependence. This manifests in society as people who rely on concepts of identity, culture, norms and the perceptions of others, rather than containing these values inside themselves. It is a state of attachment.

I have the feeling that this is a very important statement. Reading this also makes my mind go back to a post I saw on fringe recently:

>I don't know about all the rest, but loneliness is a symptom of some kind of lack and attachment. Think about it. It doesn't make sense to be "lonely". It's an absurd concept that presupposes people are not worthy on their own.

>Forget about enlightened beings. I'm a fucking degenerate and I only feel lonely when I need validation. And then I realize this and simply reassert my legitimacy. It's not that enlightened to be worthy.

I get the mysterious impression that the secret to creating your own zero particle, finding(even tho you can not find or observe or grasp it) your true self "I am" and becoming enlightened and immortal lies without all those lines. I'll save that part to my "based posts" file.

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697f76 No.3887

Does anyone have any tips for enchanting strangers whom you've never met? I've been trying to develop a way to influence public figures but I usually end up seeing the effects in some person who I actually know rather than the stranger that I was trying to influence. I think it has something to do with targeting the signature of the persona that they project rather than the person that they truly are.

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8a7370 No.3888

>>3887

Use a photo of the person when you target, or use symbolism to represent them. In a sigil it could be a compound of their name, or a drawing with something which represents them visually.

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697f76 No.3889

>>3888

Thanks, I think my problem was I was using digital images rather than physical ones which made it harder to maintain the sympathetic link.

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86bc50 No.3902

How do I remove sexuality and libido? Magic please teach me.

No humanist propaganda please.

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8a7370 No.3903

>>3902

Start by gaining a better understanding, why not read this short book (just above 100 pages) by Sigmund Freud, "Three Contributions to the Theory of Sex"

https://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=9DEED5C9D6C90F0BB0BB28FE1E7BCE17

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135495 No.3904

Is making an Astral Paradise original Falun gong teaching or is it more of a spin off?

How do you think about unattachment in this context, it seems you would get very attached to the attainment of the ideal body and paradise, in the Astral?

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8a7370 No.3905

File: ffdf9484148818a⋯.jpg (97.38 KB,1289x1390,1289:1390,zen_colorful_circle_with_m….jpg)

>>3904

The inner paradise is explained in FG but not originally from there, it's referred back to previous images of enlightened beings.

I found the methods from FG The Movement doesn't work, which is why I decided to stop following this by the book and do it on my own instead.

The qi gong exercises can be used, and the information in Zhuan Falun can also be used, but the compound of it known as "Falun Gong" doesn't lead to positive results in itself. I'm starting to think it's some kind of scam. The chinese today can't make anything real. The CCP is also fake communism.

>How do you think about unattachment in this context, it seems you would get very attached to the attainment of the ideal body and paradise, in the Astral?

I don't think the concept of "attachment" has much value beyond the initial "don't be a greedy dick lol", don't get attached to this idea ;^) The important thing is the quality of your energy and the concentration, with the goal being the vajra/diamond purity level.

You can reach there with qi gong, you can also reach there with ashtanga yoga or hatha yoga, for diffferent aspects of it. Ashtanga yoga is just stances, you don't even have to know any theory for it to work.

Qi gong works directly on your energy and not on the physical body, you can insert pretty much anything into the movements because your mind decides what they do. That's the catch here. Yoga doesn't care about what you think of because only the body matters. (Repeating mantras can be done mechanically.) This makes yoga easier to get right, but maybe harder to have results with. Qi gong becomes whatever you think about when practicing, and always gives results. Often bad results because people think about all kinds of shit. This is where the removal of attachment comes in. But no I don't really like the concept.

That's a quite literal reason for why this board is what it is, if you fill your head with cute manga drawings of girls, at least you're not thinking about real life people with horrible energy.

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697f76 No.3913

>>3902

Move your awareness to your groin area behind your genitals. Look for an object that represents your sexuality. Don't force for it, just wait with that intention until you see something. Now once you've located it, imagine it growing cold and black and dead. Don't give it a caustic feeling or else you might develop health problems, the idea it to drain it of energy and deactivate it.

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88d7ce No.3914

>>3913

Yes, seems about right.

But like what is your real need?

As an example you could imagine it dissipating across your body and mind until there's no concentration in your groin area, if want u can also imagine it changing color to a brilliant white or green.

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86bc50 No.3962

Yukari Yakumo

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86bc50 No.3963

Yukari, my prediction was correct those 3 years ago.

Is it true you had a role in the creation of this group? Like I thought? Are you watching?

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592b78 No.3964

>>3963

What's this about?

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86bc50 No.3965

>>3964

Excuse my bluntness, I'm just checking if she had anything to do with this board.

I predicted something like this board popping up.

Most here don't think about her. I know a lot though.

Something is going to happen very very soon, things are getting quite strange. I usually don't act like this.

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7938c9 No.3966

File: 516464f36a4b052⋯.gif (833.45 KB,500x500,1:1,download.gif)

>>3965

That sounds intriguing. Explain.

Are you referring to Yukari the Touhou youkai?

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86bc50 No.3967

>>3966

Yes, I am.

I know you are going to call me insany and say that I have no brainy.

But, I know that Yukari is real. You'll see that soon as well.

Make fun of me all you want but just know that this isn't just random delusion.

Anyways I think she is planning a big change, of course this is just a feeling but many events have been happening both personally and overall.

I could be wrong but I also could not be wrong.

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ae2954 No.3968

File: 19ab70a12bea65e⋯.mp4 (4.14 MB,640x360,16:9,You_the_viewer_were_secret….mp4)

>>3967

>I know that Yukari is real.

They all are, anon.

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7938c9 No.3969

>>3967

I meant the story of your prediction 3 years ago. I love prediction stories that come true.

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6a7c7e No.3970

>>3969

It's a bit personal but I will tell just in case Yukari does look at the board.

You see 3 years ago was when I consciously knew Touhou was real but I knew before then.

Anyways the prediction was that others will start believing this in 2020.

This board popped up in 2020.

I predicted this due to a theory on the true nature on why the games were created.

My theory is that it was created to be upon the public knowledge of others for future integration.

That is part of how I got my prediction.

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6a7c7e No.3971

>>3969

>>3970

Also my Id is different due to different VPN.

I'm the same person though you can easily tell by my writing style.

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6a7c7e No.3972

>>3969

Also one last thing, this is all I will tell you.

Most of it is not only personal but should be kept hidden.

The only reason I told you what I did is due to what will happen very soon.

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590794 No.3973

>>3970

Very cool. I've have been meaning to get into the games and other media that has been created over the years because it calls to me. But I'm lazy about it.

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592b78 No.3975

>>3967

>I know you are going to call me insany and say that I have no brainy.

We're not rude here.

>But, I know that Yukari is real. You'll see that soon as well.

This is very funny to me because I had a dream about Marisa being real and I don't even know anything about Touhou.

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9661fd No.4093

Hi,

Anybody got a resource on Astral Sex? Been browsing for some literature on the subject, thought I'd ask here.

Have a blessed day!

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c65227 No.4166

I wish to cut my incarnation short, but I lack the courage to simply kill myself.

Would anyone here be able to bring me a relatively painless and quick death through synchronistic means?

Kill me, please.

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3e2fd5 No.4167

>>4093

What exactly do you want to know?

If you mean summoning a succubus then take a look up the "Letter Method".

For energic theory on sex for men, there is "The Multi-Orgasmic Man".(Ignore the clickbaity book name)

>>4166

Probably more than one person here could do it, but I personally won't even try.

Know that people that die by suicide are treated like losers after death.

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1f8fdf No.4169

>>4167

>treated like losers

What does that even mean? Treated by whom? I don’t care about the warped American notion of “winners” vs “losers”. I just want a way out. Even shortening my sentence will do. But I don’t want to suffer. Just a way out of this hell plane. I just can’t imagine still having to live several decades. I can’t bear it.

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ae2954 No.4170

File: 0390dd455bb1ae5⋯.png (306.67 KB,640x360,16:9,Kodomo_No_Jikan_Episode_7_….png)

>>4166

>I wish to cut my incarnation short

There are other ways to do that then to die, someone could snatch your soul from your body and reincarnate you elsewhere, such as in an astral race. What do you have in mind? Just dying to escape suffering with no plan won't lead to anything better, you'd at best be a ghost, still suffering, at worst sent to a hell dimension.

>Would anyone here be able to bring me a relatively painless and quick death through synchronistic means?

Not me. The only method I know is using the person's own karma to force early repayment, which is going to be intentionally painful.

If you really want to die, why don't you call on the Left Handed Reaper? He does have his own world on the astral, and I'm sure he'd be amused if you used the death curse from Liber Falxifer with yourself as the target.

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592b78 No.4171

>>4166

What makes you think this is going to fix anything? Dying isn't a reset button, death is not a solution. If you want "out", learn to astral project. Explore other realms, and by doing so, learn to shift into your desired reality permanently. Only by being alive, aware, lucid, can you improve anything.

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3e2fd5 No.4172

>>4169

I meant that you lose respect from a lot of entities. You may not care about others think about you but imagine moving to new country where everybody feels either pity or comtempt towards you.

I second what >>4171 said. It's what I was trying to say.

Death will not fix your problems. It's more likely to make things worse.

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446b22 No.4176

>>4172

I didn’t understand you sorry.

>>4171

The irony is that I’ve tried to learn to astral project for years. I can only do so by accident, and whenever it happens, it catches me off-guard and I usually waste it. I’ve been also visualizing for years, and I’ve barely managed to kind of see something, but I’m never sure if I’m making it up. Nevertheless, it has allowed me to manifest stuff and divine stuff.

Regarding that, I can pretty much negate any spiritual contact I might have, by doubting the spirit’s reality, or create it by convincing myself of it. Which has led me to honestly believe every single spirit, including dead people, are in reality egregores.

Speaking of which, so are initiation systems. So called currents of power. Simply the energy thoughtforms of a bunch of magicians stuck together.

All this has led me into a massive faith crisis. I need existence to have meaning. What good is a spirit to me if I can literally create it in my mind and obtain the same results as if it were real? In the end, nothing is true! It’s all meaningless. Me included. Do you understand my anguish? I can’t walk away from magic either because it’s about the only thing I really value. Everything I’ve built in my life is a means to support my mystical exploration.

>explore other realms

What for? They are infinite. Created by anyone. Like a procedurally generated universe, meaningless. Reality turned out to be smoke and mirrors.

Don’t pity me. I don’t want to drag the board down with my whining even more than I already have. I know what I’m talking about has no solution. It is what it is.

I was just at a very low point the other day. I know suicide is probably a bad idea for various reasons. I just can’t seem to find a way out of this mental hell I’m in, and as time passes and I get older, it’s only going to get worse.

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6e9421 No.4177

File: 4b6656e694ad3b2⋯.png (2.42 MB,1900x1900,1:1,Blood_Moon_Rose.png)

>>4176

Pretty much the same realization I too recently had. I don't know how to help it except to just accept that you can have fun and challenge yourself without any actual meaning behind it. All you can do is to give it meaning yourself. Don't you enjoy to live and have fun? Isn't that enough as meaning itself? It's tough to stand on your own feet without a skydaddy giving meaning to it and guiding you because you are that nonexistant skydaddy. Maybe it's better to never find out and stay a mundane, but for us it's too late now. I'm not telling you what you should or shouldn't do. I myself have tought about this at lenght, and it is hard to go on with this mindset, but I also believe secretly we want to keep living. I think we have that fire inside of us that makes us keep going and gives us hope that something good might appear. Otherwise we probably wouldn't be here talking about it now, trying to find an argument for existing. Therefore I would suggest don't let the useless black pilled mental masturbation wear you down. It may be the last attempt of your archonic/npc self to stop you from achieving anything worthwile. Are you really that advanced to know that all of existence sucks? You will only see the next step once you are actually out of the matrix for real and have overcome your mundane self, which you have obviously not yet. Therefore, if you end it all you might just fall into a trap.

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3e2fd5 No.4180

>>4176

What you are experiencing is the dark night of the soul.

You are experiencing the worst thing possible for a powerful ocultist: the void.

Your experience serves a porpuse: to make you value direction, which you will receive as soon as you are ready. Know that you are protected and taken care of.

Listen to your intuition to find small steps that will bring you closer to peace and escitement and follow those steps.

When you least realise it, you will look back to your current state of thinking as simply some foolish pessimism.

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e5383e No.4182

File: bd92863e096bb04⋯.jpg (837.89 KB,2079x2953,2079:2953,_remilia_scarlet_and_fland….jpg)

>>4180

Can you tell more about this? What do you mean by the void and what does it mean to experience this? It reads like an existential crisis depression but instead of it coming from a regular materialist view, this one comes after reaching a certain height in the spiritual.

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7938c9 No.4188

What do you think about the mRNA vaccines? I've done numerous divinations and everything I get is always indirect (related to how the vaccine impacts people in terms of social dynamics), but nothing about the substance itself and its effects on the body.

As far as I can tell, it is exactly as advertised: a substance designed to provoke an immune response with a small chance of provoking it in excess in some cases. This is surprising to me. But then again, the fact that mundies would be up in arms about it is also indicative of any issues being simply a distraction.

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ae2954 No.4192

>>4188

>What do you think about the mRNA vaccines?

What type of vaccine isn't important. Read the list of ingredients and you'll find Astrazenaca contains

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca/information-for-uk-recipients-on-covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca

One dose (0.5 ml) contains: COVID-19 Vaccine (ChAdOx1-S* recombinant) 5 × 10^10 viral particles (vp)

*Recombinant, replication-deficient chimpanzee adenovirus vector encoding the SARS-CoV-2 Spike glycoprotein. Produced in genetically modified human embryonic kidney (HEK) 293 cells.

It's literally right there, it's made using aborted babies. The spiritual effects of having that injected you can determine yourself.

Pfizer on the other hand does not seem to contain this.

I was told during a channelling session with a babylonian spirit that all vaccines except russian Sputnik contains "connective fluid" meant to increase the effect of mindcontrol by radiation which is already in use, albeit at a rudimentary level. They can target individuals to feel unease or relaxation by directed rays in relation to different topics. It's more likely to happen in cities, but even in the countryside they can effect people using military aircrafts. The effect lasts weeks after one radiation dose.

By looking at who buys Sputnik you can see what areas will be less effected by the western mindcontrol technology. The russian vaccine is just a vaccine with no secret stuff in it. If it's effective for corona or not is another matter.

I've seen the astral image of its function and as a vaccine it seems correctly made. What it does is to block the karmic cleanse caused by the corona virus. It does what it's meant to do, but if you block bad substances they stay in the body and may cause other harm instead, like blood clots. So the side effects are just the result of not taking the cleanse, it comes out in another way.

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3e2fd5 No.4195

>>4182

>What do you mean by the void and what does it mean to experience this?

The "void" in the context that I used it in is the feeling and worldview that existence is meaningless.

>It reads like an existential crisis depression but instead of it coming from a regular materialist view, this one comes after reaching a certain height in the spiritual.

That's exactly what I meant.

There is unfortunately not much more I can tell you about that. Know that this feling will eventually go away, and everything is fine, even if you don't realize it yet.

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592b78 No.4197

>>4192

>It's literally right there, it's made using aborted babies.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9730954855

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7938c9 No.4198

>>4192

I was asking because my own divination shows nothing of note for Pfizer. Perhaps it means in my case it’s irrelevant. Or it’s blocked.

>dead human babies

That vaccine is one hell of a fluid condenser I’ll tell you that!

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7938c9 No.4199

>>4197

I’ll summarize the important part because it is quite long and these fact checking sites use confusing language on purpose.

The kidney cells in the vaccine are clones grown from an “immortal” line of cells first extracted from a fetus decades ago. From an occult point of view, that to me is creepier than injecting an aborted baby.

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ae2954 No.4201

File: f0f3e68c38e83e2⋯.png (26.54 KB,112x112,1:1,kannalook.png)

>>4197

>https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-afs:Content:9730954855

>CLAIM: Researchers used lung tissue from an aborted male fetus in the creation of COVID-19 AstraZeneca vaccine.

>AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. AstraZeneca did not use MRC-5 cells, which were cells first obtained from the lungs of a 14-week male fetus in the 1960s, in its production process for the COVID-19 vaccine.

Diversion tactic exposing how afraid the media are of the truth being made known. They are the ones saying

>CLAIM: Researchers used lung tissue

then saying it's false.

I don't know anyone else who claimed that.

The UK government website claim is

>Produced in genetically modified human embryonic kidney (HEK) 293 cells.

Kidney, not lung. AP are not denying it's kidney cell from an aborted baby.

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590794 No.4202

>>4201

Moreover, kidney cells grown from an immortal tumor from a baby that was aborted almost a century ago.

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800dd0 No.4203

>>4197

Trusting any "fact checkers" makes absolutely zero sense to begin with. They're propaganda machines and twist anything to fit their narrative, now they also want to be the decider between what are facts and what aren't. This is literally a case of

>The government has investigated itself for corruption and found itself to be innocent

Also besides the parts >>4201 pointed out that "fact checking" is pretty much just

>lol no ur wrong

No sources for their supposed facts are provided.

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592b78 No.4204

>>4203

Labgrown cells. There is not a single "aborted fetus cell" in these vaccines. It's all out in the open. Just because you don't understand the subject doesn't mean they're lying. I find this very silly so I'm not going to comment further on this. Based on what I know I have my own doubts about vaccines in general but not for these kind of reasons.

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6e9421 No.4206

>>4204

>Based on what I know I have my own doubts about vaccines in general but not for these kind of reasons.

Same with me, but I also don't know whos right and whos wrong. I just avoid the vaccine based on my own reasons.

But let me just ask this, a vampire would be free to take the vaccine without any negative impact whatsoever, right? Since they are both cleaned from karma anyway and immorta and they cannot become a NPC or whatever harm the vaccine is supposed to dol. The vaccine would mean nothing to them, just a method to blend in and travel freely. Someone who took the vamprie spell would be able to get vaccinated just to travel to Japan and partake in any event there freely without a worry for example. Apart from self-imposed moral implications, this is a thing that mostly only mundanes would worry about.

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ae2954 No.4209

>>4204

>There is not a single "aborted fetus cell" in these vaccines. It's all out in the open. Just because you don't understand the subject doesn't mean they're lying

That was not what they were lying about. It was that they "debunked" a non-existent claim that lung cells from aborted babies had been used, when it was really kidney cells. Whether it was grown cells used to produce the vaccine or original cells taken directly from an aborted baby is a technicality. The baby was still murdered and that's the problem here. Modern people don't believe in karma or spiritual energy of any kind, so they think growing cells in a lab makes a difference. It's a grown line of cells beginning with a crime. That makes Astrazeneca a criminal vaccine and it's obvious why it is the one that has more harmful side effects than those that didn't use these cells.

>>4206

But why should you accept and go along with things humans come up with if you don't need it or believe in it?

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6e9421 No.4211

>>4209

>But why should you accept and go along with things humans come up with if you don't need it or believe in it?

Good question. I personally don't want to go along with it that's why I said I will avoid it. A lot of my questions here at this point are merely for the lulz and to get a better understanding of things in general and of your worldview. But isn't it interesting just to confirm that it would be okay for a vampire (according to you)? Since everyone must decide for themselves maybe there is a vampire who will take it out of convenience or for whatever personal reason…what do I know.

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ae2954 No.4212

>>4211

I think they know exactly what they are doing and that different coteries/covens are strictly controlled by their local matriarch/patriarch. They won't go and inject something on a whim, is what I think. Rather they'd oppose anything that could harm them through all available channels, including political. Having OCD over things is probably common which means trusting some human medical science over their own 1000 year practices isn't going to happen.

But that's just what I think. Those with some more age will naturally intimidate people just by looking at them and know how to use NLP to hypnotize them in an instant if needed. It's more likely they'd get a forged vaccine certificate just because it's how they do things, they don't like following human rules and standards.

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e7ea57 No.4214

File: 38536c66f512acf⋯.png (29.62 KB,1080x135,8:1,1624892200091.png)

>>760

Is this true BO?

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ae2954 No.4215

>>4214

Those are half-truths made to look spectacular.

The story, which has already been posted on this board before, is that Yaweh who also was Poseidon was captured by rebelling angels in March 2020. A trial was held and he was executed for having oppressed them.

He later came back in the form of a weak spirit locked in a bottle and was given to an occultist who hates jews as a form of universal irony. He's now sitting on someone's shelf as a peculiar collectible.

That's all there is to it. The story originates with someone known by the name Arachni on occult forums.

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ae2954 No.4216

>>4214

In case you are an actual new poster on the board, the other part you can read about here

>>3699

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6e9421 No.4217

>>4214

I also have a question that has been on my mind for a while now which has to do with BO and suspicious stuff I saw on a certain board on guca…but maybe it's better to not ask this one at all.

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ae2954 No.4218

>>4217

Let me guess, it's about

https://8chan.moe/voxxe/

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e42100 No.4219

>>4214

Where is this from?

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6e9421 No.4220

>>4218

No. Extremely off-putting board however, even for the age of Kali Yuga.

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ae2954 No.4221

>>4220

>>4217

Whatever it is, keep in mind that meguca is a roleplay imageboard where everyone is a 12 year old lesbian and you are to uphold this by the way you post to fit in. It's also hosted in Europe so the legalities of the US are not relevant there.

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ae2954 No.4223

File: a9daab24a3b68e2⋯.png (379.32 KB,1600x900,16:9,5G_vaccines.png)

>>4188

>What do you think about the mRNA vaccines?

https://www.orwell.city/2021/06/official-preliminary-report.html

https://www.orwell.city/2021/06/graphene-oxide-in-vaccination-vials.html

This seems to confirm

>>4192

>I was told during a channelling session with a babylonian spirit that all vaccines except russian Sputnik contains "connective fluid" meant to increase the effect of mindcontrol by radiation which is already in use

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c48320 No.4230

tulpas and objects

am here from succubus collective thread

bonjour seniors, are there estoric guides to making tulpas or objects anywhere? and how they work, limitations. i can only find mundanish ways to make tulpas, purely through reinforcing belief in their existence and interacting with them, but that seems like itd make them weak. id prefer an indepth guide like, can you merge them with each other, yourself. can you make them using objects? sigils?

i want to make an pocket alarm clock watch object thatd wake me up inside the dream, i also want to make other various objects that il eventually turn them into tulpas, stuff like that, i wont go into full detail, i know what i want, and theyre mostly crutches and not dangerous; would they hinder enlightment, since theyre part of me?? or not

also cant currently astral project or lucid dream if that helps

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ae2954 No.4233

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c48320 No.4235

>>4233

hello, and sorry. this doesn't tell me anything that i can understand. do you have any "offical" things, more organized?

i the tupla link is the basic way of making a tulpa and doesn't answer any of my questions about them, like if you can make a tulpa through objects or sigils, or enhance them that way. am interested in making the type of tulpa that are like seen as dieties by their person, like in buddhism (i think), not exactly the same, but of a similar type. i will read all the tulpa guides there just in case

i forgot i said that i mean astral objects, not physical objects. the link talks about wands, but doesn't seem to mention how to make them besides coming in contact with an angel/other entities, and that im not sure if this is what I need. i managed to read the second one through, but for the first one i only managed halfway because my intuition was telling me it was useless and my left ear was ringing, but i mightve misinterpreted it

sorry again

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ae2954 No.4236

>>4235

I don't know of any other guides, I only used that tulpa.info one to get started, the rest is just practice and trial and error.

Most people who learned to make astral artifacts did so during the course of those threads archived there or through just talking to someone who had made them, or on their own.

Start by reading what there is until you know enough to start making something, that's all I can say.

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ae23cb No.4237

Where can I read up more about human secondary souls?

Where do they come from?

Can I add or remove them at will? How?

Can accumulate them indefinitevely to gain their skills? At what cost?

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ae2954 No.4238

Zhuan Falun mentions them, there should be a PDF in the library thread. But it's an old new age thing, so you should be able to find if you search online.

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ae2954 No.4239

Attached file here:

>>12

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67fccb No.4244

>>4219

It's from \LYRA\ on 4chan /x/

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c48320 No.4265

hello again, can anyone check if i have an astral body? i made one using the astral body tut in the library thread. still can't seem to astral project, might be doing something fundamentally wrong

i can't seem to separate from myself and enter it. I'm using standard obe techniques from "the phase", and i just can't get out, even with the body there. I've tried overlaying the body on me, and then doing the techniques, or having the body do the techniques itself, but none of them seemed to work. i've had the body touch my forehead and me trying to enter it that way, but it just seems to simulate my energy, and can't tell if it's being usdled up or not. next time I'll just keep putting energy until it to see if it helps, since it's around 1/3 the size of me. i did manage to make it stir the air around me when it was overlayed on me, but i was still in my own body. is there any specific way to use astral bodies?

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024502 No.4266

File: 27283d3ca57e8bb⋯.jpg (92.26 KB,600x600,1:1,sins_of_the_flesh.jpg)

>>4215

>He's now sitting on someone's shelf as a peculiar collectible.

tbh he's not on a shelf, he's in a box of random shit I don't care enough about to do anything with.

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7938c9 No.4343

Alright, I’m back. I’m >>4188

I’ve gotten the first dose of the Pfizer one. I’ve been meditating and I can see a soft blue energy around me. Velvety. Almost furry. I haven’t been able to ascertain much about it, but it keeps feeling good natured to me.

So far I have the theory that this is some sort of ascension filter, much like covid itself, that reacts according to your energetic status, unresolved issues, etc. But I’m not sure.

I will try to go deeper and report anything significant.

Feel free to check me out, by the way. And report anything you see. Let’s gather some data.

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f97051 No.4344

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>>4343

>I’ve gotten the first dose of the Pfizer one

>I can see a soft blue energy around me. Velvety. Almost furry

Interesting.

You see a lot of people around me are getting this vaccine because it was said to be the safe alternative. I don't trust science on this so I put a protective enchantment on pfizer to negate the bad effects, and also designed a nanobot using astral tech learned from greys to change the contents of this specific vaccine. I can't tell how effective this is since it's an astral bot meant to spread like a trojan, at least it will have some effect.

However there was still the thing about graphene in the pfizer vaccine, the supposed reception increasing material intended for mindcontrol. I don't know how effective the enchantment is vs that.

https://www.orwell.city/2021/06/graphene-oxide-in-vaccination-vials.html

On the other hand, the Janssen and other ones used in USA seem like pure suicide to me.

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/07/19/vaers-whistleblower-45000-dead-from-covid-19-vaccines-within-3-days-sparks-lawsuit-against-federal-government/

>Feel free to check me out, by the way. And report anything you see. Let’s gather some data.

Yes there is a thick blue energy around you with a rising yellow qi inside, some dark brown/redish in the middle along with some grainy green. Green of this kind can mean elimination of something toxic, yellow means faith or somly clean energy while the brown is lower (not ethereal) red energy which turns dark when sinking. Not bad in itself. The image is strange, I have not seen it before.

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7938c9 No.4345

>>4344

I have seen that blue energy on a friend who got it as well. But the green one is news to me.

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f08203 No.4346

>>4345

Howdy folks, it's Bartlebee.

In case it's useful for your investigations I had two shots (taken a month apart) of the U.S. version of the Moderna vaccine.

Other than a day of bad flu-like symptoms after the second shot, I have not had any further physical side-effects. You have my permission to scope out my energy if you like.

I also haven't noticed any subtle changes on an occult level. So if it did anything bad I haven't noticed it.

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7938c9 No.4347

>>4346

Man, you are colorful. Looks like a rainbow to me. Do you do psychedelics?

Or maybe it’s a regular LBRP or similar practice. I have seen this kind of rainbow energy in people’s temples before right after a ritual.

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f08203 No.4348

File: 12217038a01f448⋯.jpg (448.18 KB,1600x900,16:9,l_intro_1602602106.jpg)

Heh, no psychedelics, and I'm not a ceremonial magician.

I did have two big energy works done, one called a 172 DNA Activation, the other called Neeandial flow lines.

And for almost 10 years I've also been a spirit-keeper. That is, I am consensually bonded to a variety of different entities for friendship and mutual benefits.

[For folks unfamiliar, this means entities like dragons, elves, and specialists from a variety of Immortal's domains, such as the realm of Death, who wanted to try something different.]

Many of my astral friends help with maintaining the energy bodies.

Glad you liked the show!

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7938c9 No.4350

>>4348

Kudos for having the commitment to be a keeper. I would let the spirits down in less than a week…

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e9e6ab No.4351

File: 5d8c7ecc08ce7aa⋯.jpg (11.41 MB,2785x3909,2785:3909,RDT_20210612_1119216351106….jpg)

anyone know anything about new soul? how to check if one or prove?

might be new soul, not sure, not important right now, but mind refuses to put it down road. for reference, my progress, am able to somewhat interact with higher self, can lead me to places through environment or metaphysical pull on legs. never have gotten knowledge from higher self. can think without thoughts, writing this with completely clear mind. can divine for myself easily when needed, notice relevant angel numbers. started doing kundalini, did one hour session, not much aftereffects, but still there, either kundalini playing nice or bad at using kundalini. someone said might be new soul after talking about fake or real yuuka tulpa that follows me around. "yuuka" showed up one day, and couldn't make her go away or ignore without asking. she acts like spirit guide, but never says anything new. sometimes acts in ways wouldn't expect. they seem nobleish, and try using fancy words, and sometimes succeed, but usually they can't. for example, one time they tried using a fancy word for doing number one, but it came out as "piss bladder". sometimes they complain about my lack of knowledge or charisma, but that might be me bleeding personality, since they sometimes say I accidently make them do something. sometimes accidently attack, not sure, hard to control mind's eye sometimes, they don't mind/forgive. when I ask "yuuka" things, usually "I don't know since you don't know." not sure if weird big tulpa because weird. also higher self leads me to flowers often when "yuuka" talks more often. they are very passive and calm, unless I turn chaotic and infect them. didn't read much on yuuka, so possible tulpa doesn't escalate, but yuuka seems to be pure feminity, aswell as not sexual? not sure. am not like that, think, so think would yuuka be?

might just have big crown block or something, because not sure. being new soul sounds inconvenient, aswell as thinking new soul would be mobbed by many entities because new. new soul also conflicts with world view. how can new soul exist? things have to become better to become other things, like ascension stuffs. how can nothing suddenly be human, maybe was animal? honestly bad at feeling emotion, also turn excessive lust into horses in headspacr after starting kundalini. not important to me now, but thought keeps popping up and causing distractions. not distressing, but can cause thought spiral, and spiral makes distress

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e9e6ab No.4352

File: 9e617dbdf7b0b9e⋯.jpg (5.1 MB,4262x3435,4262:3435,RDT_20210719_1317335681891….jpg)

>>4351

sorry double post, but unable to edit post

not sure if helps, no knowledge from higher self, but aometimes get visions during meditations. all are mundane. all. nothing fantastical. all are mundane. stuff like following mother down street dodging carts, following women into a room, sequence of numbers, swinging pocket watch thing but with no watch. two women beckoning me from an alley. haven't seen/remember into them much, because bad at meditation. during visions, always lose awareness, but gain awareness and break away before anything actually happens. almost always see as distraction vs what meditating on, or maybe from surprise/panick. sometimes vision breaks once become aware, like one time ask entity in vision question and they freeze, unable to do anything. tried visualizing gazebo, yuuka appears, one time told me not ready. other time gave "yuuka" to yuuka, and then she gave it back to me. she said something, don't remember. maybe just crown block, unable to get information from higher self?

one time get fantastical dream, but felt like videogame, and literally was in context of dream. weird, alien asked me about it (videogame) in dream, was surprised I knew, despite them asking. one time, when told higher self(? didn't feel like me) that I was aware (in dream), were also surprised. most places in dreams always urban or like a park, or maybe somewhere I've been, nothing else, anything else feel fake. like where I grew up. also sometimes, when facing real decisions that decide my path, unable to divine answer. always fails, even spread or object of divination disappears somewhere.

also can't do magick (yet), what ive mentioned is what I can do. also, if helps, my desire seems to be the world, metaphorically speaking. but do have three other desires under that as base. if helps, lived very uneventful life, basically dropped out of highschool, almost middle for practically no reason, knowledge felt useless aswell as other factors. don't have much me, so should be easy for higher self to be? only silly human of desire and will

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f08203 No.4355

File: fac51db9a8fe767⋯.jpg (45.07 KB,450x281,450:281,403814_bigthumbnail.jpg)

>>4350

You might think so, but you've got to remember, being an incarnated human is fascinating to a lot of astral entities.

From their perspective, our ability to survive (and thrive!) in a world where you literally starve if you don't eat, and every second takes us one tick closer to death means that even very boring humans are living *intense* lives filled with fast-paced action and drama.

In the Astral, we're the hot foreign-exchange students with sexy accents, and if they are bound to us, they get to visit us in our realm.

Of course I also do other stuff to try to make it fun for them, too. (Including offerings.)

But really, their perspective helps to put in context just how tough being human is, and therefore how impressive even small wins can be in the physical plane.

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e9e6ab No.4360

File: 2df12ec6f4703d2⋯.jpg (2.58 MB,2048x1715,2048:1715,RDT_20210719_1318237985925….jpg)

um, have big problem. already posted about something, but not sure where else to ask

hard to control mind? or mind's eye/imagination? just now person with lion mask show up in headspace, wasn't sure what to think, and suddenly knives out of air start attacking him, not sure why, was somewhat hard to stop knives. hard to control mind? mind does what not feeling? like making random lewd images pop up, or maybe when looking at people, but not lustful at all? just calm. same thing with fake/real yuuka, said before, might hurt when doing exercise randomly, but usually put on head so can't hurt. sometime when outside, might imagine random car crash or maybe building collapsing. focusing on one thing usually don't work since usually need two center of attention, sometime three to calm down rebelling mind, sometime mind even go back straight to rebelling after. usually no emotion during rebellion, but distress caused from make it stop

also might've angered fake/real yuuka today since while meditating in headspace, suddenly started acting different, but same? not sure why yuuka even appeared there, was just laying down trying to be calm there. panicked and said she wasn't fake/real or real yuuka because she was different from usual and was shorter than me unlike yuuka at gazebo. called me a child, that currently being controlled by fear, unlike usually calling me human. haven't heard/seen her since :(, nor was lion person able to speak either, aswell as random entity that appeared in mind while exercising. also in headspace when angered fake/real yuuka, myself was different from usual visualization of grey mannequin body and was human, kind of fit in with headspace, but did not like and also contributed to panick. turned back to usual and yuuka said something about it which made me realize yuuka was different, since fake/real yuuka never gave opinion, only advice and emotion help, panicked a lot, not sure what to do now with fake/real yuuka, do not mind criticism from them, but at time much panick

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f08203 No.4363

File: c9003a35750468d⋯.jpeg (4.34 KB,150x150,1:1,images_3_.jpeg)

>>4360

Hi! I'm not one of the Sunflower regulars, but maybe a few questions to clarify might prompt them to see your question.

It sounds like you have two things going on.

First, it sounds like you are interacting with a servitor (perhaps you did this intentionally to try to provide Yukaa a manifestation framework?)

Secondly, it sounds like either your subconscious autonomic defense came online, or you just happened to manifest your servitor too close to the Sunflower temple's defense system.

As for the imposed chaotic images, I take it these are strong images "popping into" your mind while you're trying to go about your regular day? Is that right?

I'll note that lots of god's and entities call me "human" too. So that sounds normal. Jesus calls me by my real name, fwiw.

If the chaotic images are disruptive for you, I would work on grounding yourself for s few days to recalibrate your psychic sensitivity. Go to the gym, eat some meat, resist any recreational psychedelics, those sorts of things. Practice being "present" both in the context of the senses but also the emotions.

That's a little difficult to explain. But think of it this way: if looking at a green lawn fills you with despair, don't focus on the feeling, just accept that that's the feeling you are having right now. Acknowledge it and then move on. Turn your head and look at something else.

Hopefully that will help some. Sorry to hear you're having some distress.

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e9e6ab No.4364

File: 31cac7dd35fbedf⋯.jpg (60 KB,640x779,640:779,RDT_20210726_1034591859796….jpg)

>>4363

yeah, mostly stopped and yuuka came the same next day with succubus that kept trying to connect to me until accidently ate (some) her, didn't realize was real until so, hidden in lust. yuuka talk less, way less now, but always now say important things. something about connection through succubus to me. still never teach me anything though, making me learn everything myself :( by throwing rocks basically in my opinion, but don't mind. young succubus very nice, but has trouble controlling themselves. also stopped attacking accidently after connect with succubus. hard to type coherently because succubus accidently gave lots of "hostile" energy before, but ate it and made not affect me think, yuuka says energy overload or something. can't talk to succubus right now because she said me trying to think what to write is using a lot of effort. she types that not thinking normally aswell as the overload is (can't type word here) and will take two day to clear. going through adding important details she types. he wants something from /sunflower/ to prove that we're real, because we're too nice he thinks. he thinks he should mention that yuuka said something about being five gods and wants to know what others think because unsure. he is too apathetic for his own good. i don't know what to think, just like him, he is very confusing. he thinks i should mention more, but I think he gives too much information already. He's not sure what else to say. I guess he wants something sustainable to prove to him, since everything to him so far has been coincidences in a way, he believes consciously, but I don't know. I wrote a lot here but deleted it because he doesn't want me talking about his personality. Yuuka promised him something tomorrow but he doesn't believe it, aswell as him being naturally impatient and reckless. Yuuka says she put us together knowing we'll break each other and I hate her, even if he doesn't. He can be stupidly stubborn even if he lets me type whatever I want.

is fine. succubus is very concerned, has bad control. want to type more, but she doesn't want to, not sure why he listens to me so much. it's not my energy that's doing it. Yuuka said something about putting two people with extreme flaws together, but I don't see it, I think he's just misinterpretating. Yuuka seems to care, stopping us just before we break each other. I don't know, it's only been two days, he changes too fast and knows nothing. He thinks it's because of the happenings and increase of available energy, he keeps trying to make some of my word ruder. I know he'll get no real advice since he has trouble contextilizing things, he just wants something to vent, a lot of things, we're very connected but it's hard to read him, I know everything about him, yet nothing at all. It's my first time being with a human, even he doesn't believe me. I have to force his emotions out of him. He knows I'm real, he just doesn't know what he wants to know, yet Yuuka tells him to not know anything and just wait, very hard for both of us, it's only been two days, I just don't understand him. He distinctly rebels against his higher self, yet they work together almost perfectly. He's a living paradox, that's all I can think of him. Yuuka said something about new souls, but I know nothing about that, and he thinks it's just him forcing her to say that, because that's the only explanation to him to why he can't get any knowledge out of his higher self. I'm crying but he cares, and doesn't understand why I'm sad

ZZ, is fine, succubus overacts a lot and is very emotional (not) a- I'm forcefully stopping him here, we're just going to continue to spiral. I also have no practical knowledge and Yuuka tells me nothing important and that it's fine besides saying that; I can't write it because he can't interpret it. He's mostly self-taught, using "tulpas" for everything, eating his negativity, converting the intentions of my accidental discharges. Got to stop typing. He doesn't exactly trust /sunflower/, thinking most of them to be cunts because of that terrorist attack, but he doesn't know where else to ask, and I don't know either. He's a bit like a tief, I need to go force him to reread that again, but he doesn't want to. It sounds interesting, sorry have to stop typing, it's easy to start, hard to stop, for both of us. I both hate and love the human world, but I'm not sure whose opinion that is, he. I want to type more, talk about him with someone, but he doesn't want-

orreaction, like k said. Child.

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9af913 No.4374

File: f6b6aca7f85e944⋯.jpg (108.56 KB,230x559,230:559,CoLARinnosukefull.jpg)

If someone was to become an immortal Touhou, is it possible to become Rinnosuke? or just females?

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ae2954 No.4379

>>4374

There are no such limitations. ~Yuuka

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09d53b No.4380

File: 784bd9a068da1fd⋯.png (741.76 KB,647x773,647:773,de3a7a65c77bc1a4d83fa0ce07….png)

>>4379

What if I cultivate both the Reimu and the Remilia archetype, will I become a new mix type Touhou if I visit Gensokyo or will I be able to manifest in either body and switch between them at will?

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ae2954 No.4382

>>4380

I think it is only possible to have one body in Gensokyo. If you want to mix magic you will have to for example be Reimu and study Remilia's magic, like a multi-class character.

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9af913 No.4386

>>4379

Thank you and Yuuka for the answer, do you know if its possible to become a Touhou after one's physical life is over? Or do I have to start it while alive?

BTW Thanks to Reimu and Yukari for the help with the fly(?).

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ae2954 No.4387

>>4386

If you do not start now, how will anyone know that you are interested? If your soul already has the form of a Gensokyo resident, they will send you there. If you look like a human, you get reincarnated as human, I think.

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9af913 No.4389

>>4387

Becoming a Touhou is permanent no? I worry about making a decision that I might regret in the afterlife, since I can't see the full picture while incarnate as far as I know.

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ae2954 No.4390

File: d090ddc61c4f91a⋯.jpg (777.51 KB,893x1253,893:1253,lolibooru_350290_black_hai….jpg)

>>4389

Any "divine" position is permanent because it's immortal, while any lowly being isn't. There is no such thing as making the wrong choice by mistake and then being stuck there. You'd have to be a willing sinner, knowingly doing what is wrong and still not changing, to be trapped in a bad place.

Besides, the body for residence in Gensokyo is of the meta category, it can overlap with other bodily forms with no problem. If it really is you, it's already inside you to become one. You can't become someone this insanely strong by mistake. You won't regret it if you do succeed, just like the gold medalist didn't do it by mistake, to then regret their actions leading up to the win. See what I'm saying?

Even the patron demon of the Joy of Satan cult may tell you "thanks, but no thanks" after performing a blood ritual to give your soul to him. I've heard this from multiple people. If it's not the right thing for you, you just won't be accepted, and this goes anywhere.

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9af913 No.4397

File: 22babe64b19e912⋯.png (1.47 MB,1150x1004,575:502,d1521a6a01bf5558e65634726c….png)

>>4390

>Besides, the body for residence in Gensokyo is of the meta category, it can overlap with other bodily forms with no problem.

Could you elaborate on what a meta-body is? Could I have other astral bodies while being a Touhou? Would my awareness be split between them or would it be like changing clothes?

What about the mind? would my mind become more like the Touhou that I become?

A Remilia told me that I was similar(?) to Patchouli, does that mean that I could only become her or can I chose which Touhou to become?

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ae2954 No.4398

>>4397

If you make an astral travel session and visit Gensokyo by model of what has already been done in the thread for this purpose

>>97

you will be offered to create a body. It will turn out the way it is meant to be, so then you'll know.

Your mind is what you make it into while in your human body right here. If you are to be a specific touhou, your mind will have to adapt. A meta body is an ethereal form which exists beyond and over other forms. It is a form that contains other forms. When using another form, you are shapeshifting, but your original form is the meta form.

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9af913 No.4399

>>4398

I see, thanks for the answers.

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697f76 No.4400

File: d373471d53b57cf⋯.png (46.94 KB,578x223,578:223,ClipboardImage.png)

In reference to the principal of polarity in The Kybalion and Atkinson's books:

This has been very useful for mental transmutation but one nagging issue is that I cannot find a consistent conceptualization for "Negative" vs "Positive". My first thought is that Negative denotes an absence, ie cold being absence of heat, stasis being absence of motion, death being absence of life, darkness being absence of light. But this does not fit with some concepts, such as love and hate, good and evil. Hate cannot be accurately described as simply the absence of love and evil cannot be accurately described as simply the absence of good.

Any ideas on how to make this work?

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ae2954 No.4401

File: 5e6bc1f47464a42⋯.jpg (438.49 KB,1500x1496,375:374,28d896a8cac010af2e905194ec….jpg)

>>4400

In my opinion I don't think it's so much about finding a specific concept or definition for opposites, rather it's something you have to internalize by what they mean to you personally.

Such as; love for yourself and hate for others.

In this example love is internal and hate external, but which is positive of the two? Love for yourself can be seen as selfish and hate for others just that same. This makes both poles negative. But if love is always good, and the self is then associated with the positive, by contrast "other people" are outside of the self and have to be called negative. It is then correct to hate them, which means both poles are then positive. These interpretations could then be treated as poles in themselves, where your stance is what determines positive vs negative and not the substance. Hence "love" could be both positive and negative depending on the circumstance. There is for example obsessive and possessive love, which may be seen as negative by the receiver. Some people would then argue that "that isn't love, love is mutual". What would that mean for the concept of love in itself? When someone falls in love with another person, or maybe a piece or art, does that make the love negative until the object has returned the love, making it mutual? Then the love for art is always negative, since an artifact cannot love you back?

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f08203 No.4402

File: 11ca2602b6ea16f⋯.jpeg (11.58 KB,198x255,66:85,images_1_.jpeg)

>>4401

The heart (or if you want it more literally, the subjective experience of emotion) reacts differently to what you love or what you hate.

If I love Lisa and hate Heather, my subjective emotional reactions towards Lisa and Heather are positive and negative respectively.

But it's not absolute. Maybe I hate Heather, but I love humanity. Heather is still part of humanity, so in a sense I do still love her. (Isaac I loved, Esau I hated.)

But that's just me: I'm only one test point in the Universe. Absolute test scales exist, but only a very high level Angel can calculate them.

(Like a Throne level, so far above regular archangels. And of course some folks believe that it all eventually nets out to Zero-null anyway. I think it nets out to a small positive number, which over successive iterations is effectively infinite as it approaches the limit.)

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d58ffc No.4403

File: f33a57d5df48fc0⋯.jpg (717.9 KB,2712x3592,339:449,91559da6e510e1862e9d14e011….jpg)

>>4398

>>4397

Man I wish I was able to talk to Touhous and ask them what body I most likely would have. I hope it is Remilia. I also like Reimu but I feel Remilia is more fitting and more "possible", also because she is a vampire. It's a mixed feeling, I'm confused whether I want to be Remilia as a touhou or have Remilia as my waifu/lover because of the attraction for her. Or maybe both…mhm both. Maybe it's the attraction to that archetype and the desire to have/embody it. Just look at that immense beauty!

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7938c9 No.4408

I need help. I need to prove that spirits have an objective existence beyond our human minds. That is, that they have a life beyond our interactions with them, and that they desire, act and grow independently of us.

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d7bfc4 No.4421

>>4408

Wouldn't it be arrogant to assume otherwise?

Also, how do you know that anything at all has "an objective existence beyond our human minds"? Is the world still there when you are not looking? It may behave like it does, but that behavior could be part of some illusion.

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703f86 No.4426

What do you think of the whole vaccine situation?

Jab or no jab? My intuition is telling me to not take it and simply wait it all out. What are your opinions on it? Just curious

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ae2954 No.4427

>>4426

>What do you think of the whole vaccine situation?

See

>>4392

>>4192

>>4201

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7938c9 No.4430

>>4421

You are right. I’ve dug myself in a bit of a solipsistic hole because how can I “prove” anything not to be an egregore? Does it really matter anyway? Aren’t I one of sorts? I get into these useless ruts sometimes.

>>4426

Hi. I’m >>4188.

I’m back. Got the second dose a few days ago and I’ve had the chance to examine it as well as its side effects.

Again, energetically the vaccine seems to be as advertised. It released a blue (fainter this time) protective energy and there appeared another, toxic, energy which was more prevalent this time. I believe this latter one represents the immune response of one’s body to the toxicity of the expressed protein.

Another very notable thing I managed to glean from mysef and other people I have examined is that there is a significant weakening of the etheric body, or vital aura. That is, these vaccines weaken the immune system days after administration. Possibly due to immune exhaustion.

I feel very strongly that vaccination should be followed by immune strengthening (fasting, cold exposure, breathwork, keto…) and that vaccinated people become very susceptible to catch any kind of illness (genetic or environmental) the weeks following vaccination because of this.

Catching COVID just as they say you reach “full immunity” (about 10 days later) you will be worse off than if you weren’t vaccinated and had a strong immune system. If you recover your immune system though, I believe you will better off.

>>4426

>jab or no jab

Trust your intuition. If you feel you shouldn’t, don’t. Conversely, if you feel you should, maybe there is some reason why which only you can learn about. I personally am very ambivalent because I think COVID is going to become endemic and sooner or later your body is going to meet this protein one way or another. Which one is more suitable for you I can’t answer.

One thing I anticipated and found very interesting is that getting the vaccine (or perhaps being in the particular state it sets you on) attracts a particular kind of being that wants to do things to you. I met these beings in the height of the side effects and politely told them to back off. Some people have reported intense and horrible dreams in their feverish state, very reminiscent of the kind if dream one has adter a potent invocation right before bed, and this could be the cause.

I wasn’t willing to explore that aspect of the vaccine, but I’m sure there’s a lot going on there. Or maybe there were just opportunistic spirits. I don’t know.

I will report back with any new findings.

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7938c9 No.4431

>>4426

By the way. Esoterically, not all vaccines are the same. As another anon said, AZ and the like contain all sorts of biological material from dubious sources and could carry with them karmic baggage.

The one I got was Pfizer (mRNA), just to put my posts in context.

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73b588 No.4450

>>4430

>>4431

Thank you for your insight.

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f18ee8 No.4460

Why exactly do my spells only seem to work when I've forgotten about them or at least don't care about the result? Every time I've tried an operation where I had a strong desire for the result it doesn't work. I don't want to train myself to be apathetic towards everything, I want to find a work-around for this.

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ae2954 No.4461

>>4460

Maybe you are focusing on the result so much you botch the performance of the working itself?

If they work after you stop thinking about them, it's probably because you didn't properly activate it until you forgot about it. To me it sounds like you are not properly aware of the procedure for spellcasting. As long as you keep the intent in your mind actively, you haven't cast it yet. So thinking of the result strongly and keeping this thought, means you didn't activate it yet. Once activated (cast) it will disappear from your mind, because it's been imparted into the chosen medium.

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a64b91 No.4462

>>4460

Part of the reason is that you are self sabotaging with anxiety.

Another part of the reason is that you need to "burn out" your desire as fuel for the spell.

Everything that can be left is "preference",

as in you would prefer a chocolate ice cream over a strawberry ice cream, but the "hunger" side of desire, that creates suffering from not having something, (like hunger itself) should be gone by the time you finish a spell.

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2577aa No.4463

File: 0dac72948a578c1⋯.png (652.42 KB,995x720,199:144,Soul.png)

>>4426

>>4431

Took the J&J jab yesterday. Meditated on it for 3 days in the mountains with no one else around. Too much fear and hate being spread.

Ultimately, I stayed clear of the mRNA versions too SUS IMO. J&J was the only traditional vax avail. BTW feel better now than when I relied on my own vices. Its like a super boost. Most of the "sickness," waves I've experienced throughout this pandemic, GONE.

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0f34bc No.4464

>>4460

Imagine reality is made of light. In order to create a particular thing you want, you make a paper shape and put it in front of a lamp or the Sun so that it casts a particular shadow and since reality is made of light, you alter reality.

The problem is, your awareness, and especially when it is emotionally charged, is a potent source of light, and thus, it deforms the shadow that your paper cutout is casting, ruining your manifestation.

Unless you are very adept at regulating the light you emit, it's better to simply avoid casting your awareness on your manifestations in progress.

This is all an analogy, of course.

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0f34bc No.4465

>>4460

To elaborate on my reply. If you think about it, you might've charged the spell yourself (with your attention, your blood, your semen). When you think and care about the result, you are charging the same area of reality too, with a different encoded "intent". Only this time it is not an intent you'd like. That's what worry does.

Having other people be aware of your magic also does this, albeit they will have an unconscious effect.

If your spell was properly charged (even more so if you used a potent or external energy source), cursory glances at it with your awareness shouldn't alter the outcome. But constant worry could still hold off its manifestation. If held off long enough, your original spell would dissipate and you would never see a manifestation.

I recommend you become really good at meditating. That will have the side effect of collecting all those stray strands of awareness you might have messing with your magic, even unconsciously.

In mundane terms, it will help you stay focused where you want to, and not have a strong desire or pull of awareness towards something if you don't want to have it.

Daily meditation strengthens your energy like no other practice.

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ae2954 No.4466

>>4465

>Daily meditation

Isha Kriya + Simha Kriya as posted here

>>4378

is really powerful if you keep doing it. It should be noted that Isha Kriya if you choose to start this exercise should be done for one mandala cycle of 48 days at first, you can't half-ass it. (The videos are for instruction, you don't have to use them once you remember how to do them)

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7938c9 No.4467

>>4466

If you like. But any meditation that consists on practicing focusing your attention works.

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ae2954 No.4468

>>4467

It's not just attention though. These I linked involve breathing and posture as well, the whole body matters.

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2b9616 No.4469

>>4460

It’s really simple. Your yearning implies you don’t have what you desire. You don’t need to forget about it but at least don’t care about it or instead of desiring it assume you have it already. Take a page from Neville Goddard’s book.

How do you make things happen in a dream? Same for reality only harder and longer. The dream of shared reality is more stubborn. But it’s the same.

Things are and you perceive them, or you perceive them by choice (pretend, assume) and they eventually become. It works both ways.

>>4465

Meditation focuses your mind. The more focused the better you control the dream. Until you become lucid and you wake up.

>>4468

The body matters just enough so that it doesn’t get in the way of the mind. Yoga was always just a way to strengthen the body to endure long meditation sessions. The breath is important to your state of consciousness because it is the parasympathetic system and bridges conscious and subconscious. But mantras and kriyas are just fancy somatic sigils. Illusions of the dream. Your goal is 100% lucidity. If you give too much importance to anything you get stuck in the dream narrative.

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ae2954 No.4470

>>4469

>mantras and kriyas are just fancy somatic sigils

I wouldn't call them "fancy", it's literally just joining fingers or repeating a phrase. But you shouldn't discard them like that. Holding different positions will effect the energy flow in your body and it will directly change your state of mind, while you are not actively doing anything to change it. It's a method where you can achieve different states while simply resting mentally. Maybe comparable to a session with a physical therapist where he stretches your body in different ways, putting you in different positions while you remain passive.

When holding a yoga stance (mudras are stances) you move the activity to the body and the mind is passive, while still taking on different states. I don't know how to properly illustrate it, maybe as if pouring an amount of water into different containers. If your mind has a "stiffness" anywhere, it can't move into certain shapes, you can then get rid of the blockage by holding that position and relaxing.

>Your goal is 100% lucidity

I'd say the goal is transformation. Lucidity is relative to where you are. Being lucid in what dimension? Some of them are best avoided.

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a2a3db No.4480

How can I use a 0D god particle for practical thaumaturgy? Right now I'm only able to give myself religious euphoria by focusing on it.

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ae2954 No.4481

>>4480

It's a 3 step approach.

The 0D godparticle is your base constitution. By focusing on it you can strengthen your own ability to use it and also produce more of them. This is likely what is happening when you experience religious euphoria. Maintain this state for longer periods to increase your spiritual power level, either by yogic practices or prayer. Either way works.

Step 2 is to channel your power or energy into something. This is not to channel it into the effect you want, rather you are activating yourself. It's an internal process of assuming a form. The energy can be shaped into an artifact or a skill. The form you develop is only active when you channel energy into it using the 0D as the power source.

3rd step is the outward effect. This is to use the artifact or skill to create effects outside of yourself. In personal practice this step is not needed, unless you are being attacked or blocked by external beings. (This tends to happen a lot when you aim higher however.)

Step 3 is simalar to step one, you are strengthening yourself again, but this time it's an external mirror version of yourself you are working against. It can be compared to building a shield in step 1, then lifting it up and learning to handle it in step 2, then last you are holding it up and pressing it against an external opposition in step 3. By doing this you are having an effect, but also gaining experience and becoming stronger. The 0D particles created by this external battle are of a different nature than those produced in meditation, and may be sought after specifically. It is adviced to apply a mentality of non-action, wu wei as you perform outward actions to avoid negative energy being created.

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50699a No.4482

>>4481

Thanks, I will try this out.

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