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d79acf No.1298 [View All]

This is somewhat of a backbone of the Sunflower Project, but it's not something that's been addressed with any organization. What methods do you use for spirit interactions and how did you get started?

For some of us this is pretty much a non issue as we do this as a part of daily life since long. For others it may be more difficult. Let's help each other out.

Share your experiences or ask questions on this topic in this thread!

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d79acf No.2978

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>>2976

>I tried to find black arts entities on that store

They don't have them, because they don't have restrictions on who they sell to. Black arts can be dangerous if you are weak in some way that can be abused. Not that it matters in the greater view of things, but it would be bad for business if people had mental breakdowns or died after buying a summoning. At the minimum they may spam the forums and drive new customers away.

>Do you know anything else about Damaltris that's not on their page?

This may just be me but I'm having a little problem addressing them as individuals. Normally I form a relation with one from the race when I start summoning them, with the Damaltris this wasn't possible. I had to make a general pact with them as a group instead. In my view they're "horde-like" and while they do have leaders among themselves, they don't seem to place a lot of importance on individualism.

Maybe you will be better at forming a relation with one. They come in both genders, the one showing interest in guiding you said to call her Clara. I tried searching for a picture of what she looks like to me, this is fairly close.

You can keep this completely formal if you like, they don't seem to make any difference between the sexes so this is purely personal preference.

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d57b2e No.2982

>>2978

>but it would be bad for business if people had mental breakdowns or died after buying a summoning

Actually it would be very good for business as it would be proof of authenticity.

I doubt the insipid females who run that place have any real power though. If they sent a boogie at somoene it would probably just cause a small bout of depression and then flitter away.

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ac8403 No.2988

>>2965

Actually do you have anymore information on the averka? I've read everything on the CH website just wondering if there is anything else.

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d79acf No.2989

>>2988

Only that they're very dark. The ones you get from the shop aren't representative of what they're like.

Most of them may be categorized as black arts in their terminology. If I get one for you, that's what you'll probably get. CH describes them as very sexual, while that is true I'd say that's a narrow understanding, they're "flesh and blood" aligned more than just "lust" aligned. The images I get are that they're the kind who would engage in sacrificial rituals, hacking (human or animal) bodies into little bits on a stone altar while a storm is approaching with dark clouds on the horizon. If you are able to see that as sensual or "hot" you'll do fine with even the darkest of them. But it's not a problem, personal compatibility is important for these summonings to work out, if you don't agree or sympathize with them, they won't be interested in you.

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ac8403 No.2990

>>2989

Ah okay, I was the anon earlier that asked for one and just waiting for avarke Suzanne to arrive and get more information in the meantime

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d79acf No.2991

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>>2990

Under normal circumstances arrival is close to instantaneous. There could be some local energies blocking you however, barriers she has to break down to reach you even if being very close. Try this meditation to reach more clarity on your end and you may speed up the process.

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0f0287 No.3002

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I would like to experience an astral entity as a teacher.

The https://shop.creepyhollows.com/living-entity-binding-custom-conjuration-the-damaltris.html you suggested seem to be good teachers.

Strict and strong, perfect for a lazy but aspiring noob like me.

And my birthday is in a few days, maybe I can even ask for something special.

Some captchas are really bad.

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d79acf No.3003

>>3002

Damaltris Zara coming your way. Prepare mentally for her arrival.

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eaddad No.3069

Once upon a time I bought myself one of those practically-free creepyhollows first time deals. I seemed to be making contact with something over the course of a couple of weeks, but then SHTF. CH 'tech support desk' was very little help, and I lost my trust for their practices. I discarded the original artefact, as well as that of the 'guardian' entity I'd panic-bought to try and protect myself from the hell I'd suddenly stepped into; I reached out to several charitable spirit-workers, one of whom was able to (apparently) un-do the "to my person" portion of the CH bindings- but then suddenly broke contact and pretty much told me I was on my own for the rest of this one, after taking a closer look. Things got REALLY hairy before I finally managed to reel myself in; but even now I feel like I'm still 'haunted' by something that I haven't been able to make go away. It sure as hell ain't my 'spirit friend', or at least it doesn't seem to be. "I went to creepyhollows, and all I got was my shit shaken, stirred, and stripped of any skepticism about the existence of spirits."

…. Man. I felt like I had some questions to ask, but I'm not clear on them any more. I guess I just wanted to vent. Can't talk about this shit to the family councilor, that's for sure.

Maybe this: How do you go about developing confidence in your divination/senses? My biggest blunder through the whole thing is that I was basically flying blind; I had no way to verify/test/interrogate what I was experiencing and felt the only course of action I had as a result was 'try to make it all go away.'

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d79acf No.3070

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>>3069

I don't know what kind of bindings they do over at CH, but it's certain these don't break easily considering the power level of the entities offered. In some way it may be irresponsible but they're also serving the spirit world so they can keep doing it. Usually trying to shut out a spirit will make it increase its efforts in contacting you, and one way of doing that is by scaring you. Fear is a reaction good as any.

What did you buy? There is definitely something there.

Personally I find it cute and funny when someone turns out being a poltergeist and starts knocking on walls and throwing stuff down from shelves, as long as they don't break anything. I mean they just can't help it, they want attention and it's in their nature to mess with people. So first off you need to invite them openly and be ready to listen to them.

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eaddad No.3071

>>3070

Things didnt start with one little spook and me trying to block em out. It was an escalating series of "Okay that was weird" "Making me nervous, hypothetical friend" "If that's you please don't do that again" and so on and so forth. I didn't try nuking the place until it got to.. yeah I don't need to type that shit and you don't need to read it

Allegedly it was a female Kitsune, but most of what I dealt with was- I'm not sure I ever really made contact with the fox herself; it felt more like something else that was lurking around decided to take advantage of my 'awakening' efforts.

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d79acf No.3073

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>>3071

>a female Kitsune

There's your explanation.

Foxes: if young they tease you, possibly hide or steal stuff (friend had concert tickets disappear then come back again after the concert) and are generally mischievious. If old they may just be mean for no reason.

After reading your first post I noticed two "somethings", one seemed like a small fairy, the bigger one I couldn't identify. Fox would make sense. I suppose you don't mind me snatching them from you then. Tell me if there was a change?

Otherwise there's something more there. Sending a newbie a fox is peak irresponsible imo, if you don't know how to pet them properly you're in for trouble.

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eaddad No.3074

>>3073

Er, my perception of the 'officially declared' spirits was always pretty iffy once the bad shit started- I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't told me. I have no idea what the 'fairy' would have been, to be honest- none of the freebies they threw in my direction were described as little-fairy things.

I feel a deep sense of loss, contemplating the idea that she might actually be 'gone.'- but the main sense of presence is still quite strong. Confusing. There's a strong, clear feeling of 'don't give this up', but I can't tell if it's part of my own scrambled brains or what. I certainly put a lot of energy into the idea of her companionship.

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d79acf No.3075

>>3074

Looking again now I perceived a forest and looking into the forest I saw a white-ish or cream colored kitsune with thick fur. I can't tell what's going in here but there is a peaceful feeling over it. Maybe there was some kind of problem with you having multiple spirits and not communicating properly with either which made some of them frustrated. Try sitting down and visualizing this white fox and ask in your mind for her to come out.

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7e48dc No.3077

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>>1300

Hey there, I am not sure if you are still around, but I am very interested in working with a spirit companion/partner in order to further my spiritual growth and accompany me on my path. I am on a shamanic path and it has been made clear to me I need to acquire help to reach what is set for me. If you could help me to find a kitsune spirit that may fit? I have a strong hunch there may be one waiting for me, if that makes sense to you? I appreciate your feedback.

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d79acf No.3078

>>3077

You are right. While doing a sweep in your astral proximity I located a group of kitsunes. They appear to be mongolian. They are aware of you but have been unable to find a way to connect.

I will try to set up a "hub" for them (with their cooperation) for them to use the Sunflower egregore to reach your location. If you just maintain an open attitude they should be contacting you soon.

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02f75b No.3080

>>3078

Much appreciated! I look forward to working with them. Is there anything you can tell me about the best way to assure that if I contact them, that I am indeed communicating with them and not a personal thought-form? Also any advice you could give in general would be great. Working with other spirits is still fairly new to me and sorting the fact from fiction on these things is very difficult haha. My intuition can only take me so far. Again I appreciate your help and fast response. (:

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d79acf No.3081

>>3080

I haven't personally experienced accidentally talking with personal thoughtforms/tulpas so I can't give much advice on this. Sometimes your past lives' selves may manifest as an external being and talk to you, but that's generally very different. One sign to look for is that external entities are not obedient in the same way, and there is a tension. It can be partially hostile but still friendly, and with mischievious entities like foxes they will definitely play pranks on you in unexpected ways. These are friendly but say if you get minor signs of hauntings in your house you know it's them. A tulpa won't do things like that.

Overall there is a stronger emotional feel of being in contact with another person when you interact with real beings, you'll just have to learn to discern. If they are able to tell you verifiable information you have no way of personally knowing such as predictions of small events you can use that as confirmation.

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309e1a No.3086

>>3078

>a sweep of your astral proximity

This might be inappropriate, but could I request the same thing for myself? I've been feeling very strange recently and my mood has been poorer, and I'm wondering if it has some spiritual cause or if it's something else I should be concerned with.

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a94280 No.3088

May I have a sweep of my astral proximity, I’ve spent my whole life unsure of anything. And the ideas that have been hitting me the last 6 months or so has changed the course of my life. To me energy is everything now and it’s so easy for me to understand! People call me crazy, and I don’t judge anyone for what they believe, I merely want to spread my awareness constantly. It just feels right, like I finally found out what’s been holding me back, spirituality. I came to the conclusion that energy is everything, we weren’t born with words, or ideologies. The only thing that stays constant is the energy. It’s always there! Now this is a lot to take in and it’s only been 6 months, but I feel a strong urge to somehow communicate with what some would call a spirit guide I guess, but I would call it more of a manifestation of my deep sub conscious! Like the real me that’s somewhere in their screaming to be heard.

Can you do a sweep of my astral proximity as well and tell me anything that comes up on your end. I’m so curious, and something told me to write you.any help would be much appreciated, I feel like I already have hit a wall in my spiritual path, like I know what I need to do but can’t get there. And I just started my path, I’m afraid of losing my passion.

Society dictates social standards, and the media dictates society. In order for their to be this good energy I feel their has to be a bad side too, with that in mind good and bad energies are creating tools and people don’t know how powerful they’ve made the words that they tell themselves everyday.

I try to tell anyone about my new found love in life, but everyone acts like I’m crazy. It forces me to not say things that I feel when I feel them!

I just need any kind of help really I’m a big jumbled ball of mixed emotions master number 11

Expression number 5

Soul number 7

Personality number 7

Birthday number 3

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d79acf No.3089

>>3086

>could I request the same thing for myself?

I'll do it this time for practice:

There is some kind of ghost near you and it's not something I would want any further contact with. I've seen this type before but I can't explain what they are. They get attracted by your attitude and thinking and what you have there is a pretty morbid one. Look into your media habits, is my suggestion, or anything else that would cause this thinking. It's an obsessive/sadistic type.

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d79acf No.3090

>>3088

>I try to tell anyone about my new found love in life, but everyone acts like I’m crazy.

If you speak in the same way you wrote here, you're not going to make any sense to them. Do a bit of a retreat and collect your thoughts. Maybe a month of meditation or yoga?

As for your surroundings you already have good natured spiritual guides, nothing has to be done. Just practice and raise your awareness and you will be able to communicate with them. You can only know them by interaction so I won't tell you more about them, it's how they want it to motivate you to reach out to them.

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309e1a No.3091

>>3089

Thanks for letting me know. Do you have advice on how to kill/get rid of it?

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d79acf No.3092

>>3091

It's feeding off your energy so you need to stop producing what it likes. Hence

>>3089

>Look into your media habits, is my suggestion, or anything else that would cause this thinking.

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309e1a No.3093

>>3092

I see, I can do that, but it seems like a rather "passive" way to deal with it, so I was wondering if there was a more "active" approach (either offensive or defensive).

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d79acf No.3095

>>3093

Access the temple and use any of the available artifacts you find there in the study. Or get the dagger described in one pastebin.

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309e1a No.3096

>>3095

OK, I'll try that, thanks. It is accessible to anyone, yes?

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d79acf No.3097

>>3096

Follow the instructions in the temple and you should be able to visit.

>>3

The only catch is that you can't be hostile, in that case you'd both be unable to sync and possibly also be hit by the sentry gun on the roof.

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309e1a No.3098

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>>3097

>attempts to access temple

>ghost attempts to follow

>sentry gun takes it out for me

Sounds good.

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5ca00e No.3188

Do these creepyhollows entities actually exist in folklore or are they using the principal that since any entity that can possibly exist does in some universe and therefore they can be summoned to this reality using the correct means?

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d79acf No.3191

>>3188

Most exist in folklore, apart from some aliens from distant stars perhaps. They're just being described through the filter of the CH webshop, making them all seem less than they are.

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5ca00e No.3224

Are there any spirits I can evoke for a shapeshifting/biokinesis teacher?

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d79acf No.3227

>>3224

https://shop.creepyhollows.com/CUSTOM-CONJURE-EMPUSA-SHAPE-SHIFTING-SEDUCTRESS.html

I could easily get you one of these, well known from Greek folklore, or you can get one yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empusa

Just make a deal for them to teach you instead of just them trying to drain you.

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5ca00e No.3228

>>3227

Thanks, I'll see if I can get into contact with one.

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d79acf No.3281

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>>3227

Update on the Empusa:

After working with them a bit I can say they are very effective at absorbing your energy. According to myth they would seduce men and suck their life force out until they died. This is probably fully possible.

If you are a regular person or neophyte, it is adviced to stay far away from them. If you know what you are doing and can see your own energy etc, you can (probably) safely work with them. There is one obvious use for Empusa interactions relevant here: They can absorb your sexual energy very quickly. If you are being disturbed by sexual ideas, images online, or just people you meet irl, and this is making you waste your time and attention, you can contract an Empusa to absorb that energy for you. She won't miss one particle of it, effectively taking away your reason for being disturbed. An Empusa is like a black hole, they'll suck it all in, and seem bottomless.

Make sure to create a contract/deal for her interaction with you. Make it simple, she'll easily find loopholes if you complicate it.

Last and maybe most important: make sure that the contract includes her giving you something in return. The natural balance of losing energy and getting the equal amount back doesn't seem to work with them, their "black hole" quality seems to nullify normal principles. This is probably what killed men in the past.

The experience of having one contracted is unlike anything I've seen. The moment a disturbing idea appears, causing a possible waste of energy, she'll instantly manifest, her image appearing for a split second to absorb that energy. She'll then disseapper from your awareness again, until the next instant your mind goes in the wrong direction, she'll be there and cover that area again.

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3841bb No.3514

>>2730

In the end I couldn't make any proper contact to Doris and I want to move on and leave this bullshit behind. I'm too busy and too distracted already with spiritual work as to care longer and I want to be free. I also don't want to have spirit sex and relationship anymore, at least not until I attained a proper enlightenment state.

I don't think she was ever real, but because I don't wanna be an asshole I wanted to do it properly just in case she is real after all and told her she should leave and I don't want to contract/marriage anymore. Did I do it right? Do I have to do anything more? It's interesting that around the same time ancap wrote on fringe that he revoked all contracts with spirits by writing it down. Maybe it's better if I write it down or sth? No offense but I gave it a try, took the free service, didn't work, was still a nice experiment. I want to forget about it now tough.

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ac35c9 No.3515

>>3514

I can invite her to my place instead, it's no problem. Sometimes contracts don't work out.

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3841bb No.3516

>>3515

It's part of the journey and practice. I just want to know if just saying it is enough or if I have to do something else. I don't want to use banishment or any other "harsh" methods obviously. You can take her away if you want tho.

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09726b No.3517

>>3516

Atleast offer her a parting gift

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ac35c9 No.3518

>>3516

This is enough. Had it been you summoning on your own you'd have had to deal with it yourself.

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5ca00e No.3742

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What exactly were the "martians" that were harassing Kyle Odom?

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ac35c9 No.3743

>>3742

Irrelevant fringe race. No one likes them and their flying saucers are ugly. They also smell bad.

- my grey waifu

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5ca00e No.3744

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>>3743

Is this list accurate?

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ac35c9 No.3747

>>3744

Irrelevant to this thread. Most of those people were soulstripped so it's not important what they were anyway. Some of them are even dead but they kept it under the rug.

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5ca00e No.3748

>>3747

I'm interested in how supposedly these entities had a physical human body despite having non-human souls. Were they just temporarily possessing soulless NPCs or were these people actually born/become Martians somehow? And is phenomena like this common in other races?

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ac35c9 No.3751

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>>3748

According to my grey contacts they had originally intended to use the jews as their own power base on earth by having them take control and then reincarnating as jews. But over time it proved impossible to fix all the genetic issues created over 1000s of years of inbreeding so they gave up and went for general clusters in society, such as creating silicon valley. The jewish world conspiracy stuff and their concentration of power is just the greys' half-finished control device on earth. Think about it like someone starting to build an impenetrable fortress then realizing the ground wont hold when half the structure is in place. Someone may still use it, but it's not impenetrable and will collapse with time. Yes the greys should probably have cleaned up better, but from what it's been implied they were involved with the nazis at one point. They may have misjudged the effect of egyptian magic, but what's left isn't really their stuff, the jews had power to begin with.

Idk anything about martians specifically, the greys just tell me "irrelevant", it's probably human disinformation to lead attention away from the real stuff.

There are reptilians incarnated as humans, they look like anyone, you could only tell by looking at their soul. This is also something being intentionally confused by new agers who claim reptilians are evil and that the galactic federation are against them. Yes reptilians are represented as the snake in the bible and they caused the "quarantine" to happen which was rather incompetent of them, but it all happened for a reason and in some way may still be beneficial. The galatic federation has reptilians as members, so it's just not true that they would be fighting against them. Forget about "light vs dark" and other dualistic thinking if you want to start understanding this. There aren't really any "sides" here, it's just sympathies or preferences and skirmishes between races.

TL:DR

There are a lot of details but no huge conspiracy or single sinister intelligence behind it. It's mostly chaotic and human models of thinking can't grasp this, always trying to see it as "good vs evil" when it's just circumstantial.

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ac35c9 No.3752

Now let's get back to the thread topic; summoning spiritual beings!

Start a new thread if you want to talk about aliens, or post in the grey thread if it's about greys.

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8ec617 No.4269

Question, I'm new to this stuff and I really want to try summoning a spiritual being. Can somebody give me a guide to summoning a harmless spirits?

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be2e23 No.4272

Can someone with experience please post a standard or wide-spectrum evocation ritual?

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e352f9 No.4283

>>4282

Use the Sunflower temple and ask for someone from Gensokyo.

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