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 No.265 [Open thread]

Just found this board by chance and a while ago I wrote a blog entry about my theory of why women have their inferiority complex.

I will copy&paste it here and would like to get some feedback, additional thoughts and eventually starting an insightful discussion about the topic.
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 No.794

>>267
>Maybe Freud’s penis envy theory was indeed right. Not in a literal, but a metaphorical sense.
Are you aware of the current drive backed wholeheartedly by radical feminists to achieve the medical science of female sperm and thus rid themselves of need for the male sex completely?

They literally want females to be able to produce viable sperm for fertilization. I can't say I agree with much of what Freud wrote, but this is one example where feminists really do envy male genitalia. Feminist separatists do not just have penis envy (and often utilize strap-on dongs), they're also jealous of a Man's balls.

Personally, I try not to get too caught up in feminism and the divisive gender war (except to co-opt it as a tool for my own PSIOPs). It is a divide and conquer strategy if I ever saw one.

Essentially, Feminisms is the devaluation and shame of the mother role with the aim of getting more women to adopt productive male roles and to cow men in fear of being harmful to women. The appeals made to women can not be this honest though. Instead they use phrases like, "have your own money" (as if wives didn't rule the roost and spending regardless of their employment), or "I don't need a man to make me happy" whilst merely replacing husbands with the state as their surrogate protective fathers/husbands (instead of "a man" they need many men). The envy of desirable male-dominated positions (e.g., politician or CEO) is never balanced with the duty to fill the less desirable male positions (janitor or conscripted soldier).

Male Obligations are seen as Privileges, even though they are sacrifices. Feminists want the rewards without the effort (despite what the useful-idiot adherents say).

The effect of feminism is twice the workers in the work force; The economy adjusts to two income homes so women can't afford not to work, then you get twice the work for the same pay per home. Thus, Communists and Capitalists alike love Feminism.

You're correct in thinking Feminism is just suborning women to other more radical women through placing excessive value on traditional male roles and devaluing and shaming those who fill traditional female roles. I doubt women naturally feel inferior as in the Victorian era women were considered to the more virtuous and fairer sex; Instead I see evidence that women arePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.848

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 No.1037

>>265
>why women have their inferiority complex

You appear to be making an unfounded assumption there m8. Let's see why that might be:

>you've been lurking on chans

>these sites are typically populated by those shunned from mainstream social circles
>a large number of these will be lonely males
>these males hey will tell each other (and themselves) what they need to hear to save their egos

I realize this sort of groupthink might fly on boards like /r9k/, but /32/ is supposed to have an emphasis on critical thinking.
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 No.1044

I agree with >>1037
Not only you made a grand claim that doesn't have any clear hard evidence, but you are also making a big generalization.
Any argument could stand on the question "why is there a big feminist movement?" if the said argument were to be put in nice words and outline a clear picture of what and why it's happening.
The picture is never clear, there is no always black and white and things aren't as easily explainable as you might think.
Feminists have wide range of personalities, and not all women react the same under same factors. Sure, there are stereotypes for a reason, but there is a bell curve around the stereotype too.
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 No.1087

>>266
Men also have a factual tendency to take more risky behaviors, which sometimes pay off, and people like hearing about or praising risky stuff and big gambits, I think.


Generally I'd say both sexes have plenty of people with 'inferiority complexes'. Fundamentally this is because, in their youth, they are treated as inferiors, so naturally they grow up into this mindset. Then these people, for example men especially, will go do something like strive to make a bunch of money, because then they feel they will finally be 'superior', only then able to find comfort/happiness.
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 No.56 [Open thread]

I like this board. This is a good board.
I'll be contributing to keep it alive!
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 No.548

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 No.561

>>530
I'm okay with it if we get enough posts to sustain the board. If you find this board or are referred to it, you might have something to contribute. Some general /b/ shitter coming around isn't the kind of person we want here.
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 No.1083

>>545
You can remove the 'fucker = blimper' one.

It'll do it automatically with fuck.
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 No.1104

>>545
>libtard is liberal
TOP KEK
This board is going down the shitter already.
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 No.1131

You're right. This is a great board. Thumbs up, board.
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 No.716 [Open thread]

I think most people here agree that individuals should be able to make decisions about their own lives, such as how to spend their money, where to live, what policies to agree with, and so on. Forming your own opinions is fundamental to the notion of identity,and therefore to a mentally stable individual and functional member of society.

In order to make decisions of whatever kind, individuals need information. An opinion based on facts and that takes into account many different (relevant) factors is an informed opinion. People who don't have informed opinions make decisions that are irrational, and often have negative effects. Thus, an informed individual is both a good member of society and a good human being (assuming that the information they have is truthful and that the "rational" decision is to be a good person). By induction, it is safe to assume that an uninformed individual is neither good for society nor good for themselves.

We have arrived at the central statement of this post: individuals should have access to factual information, that is, truthful information that allows them to understand the realities of a situation. From that, I can claim that it is wrong (because it is bad for both society and the individual) to deny that person access to such information, by censoring the facts and/or spreading lies. This is one point I guess (and I might be wrong) that you will agree with me on: the powers in effect -e.g. governments, corporations- should not lie to the people.

I would like to know if you agree with what I have said so far. If you don't, why not? If you do, what other actions can be considered immoral in regards to control of information? Is mass distraction immoral? What about appeals to emotion, subliminal messages, mass hypnosis, manipulation of the masses by means of cult psychology?
Basically, what is a group in power justified in doing in regards to information?
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 No.1010

>>716
> I think most people here agree that individuals should be able to make decisions about their own lives, such as how to spend their money, where to live, what policies to agree with, and so on.

I have to disagree with this, it is not true.
If you, or the group you belong too can ensure those rights, then yes.
If you cannot in some way defend those "rights"/privileges then no, you do not have them.

Also, after writing this I see that you said they "should be able" which is a different story.
There I am somewhat in agreement, however this almost libertardian might obfuscate the natural laws that I believe should never be hidden or forgotten.
At some level evolution needs, and will happen no matter if we try to prevent it.
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 No.1011

>>1010
needs to, and will, happen *
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 No.1048

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Curt Doolittle has some interesting ideas about the relation between the people and the government. His argument basically boils down to this: since people want a moral/ethical society instead of one that merely protects their right to property, and therefore the more people in a society can trust other members of the society to act ethically/morally the less state suppression is needed to keep a society stable.

http://www.propertarianism.com
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 No.1051

>>735
>When a large corporation is said to hold a monopoly, the government steps in

I'd definitely contend this; the government will permit or even foster monopolies when it so desires. But I see your general point, and you're not entirely wrong; schooling should aim to introduce the individual to a range of ideas, and take a neutral perspective on those ideas. Though obviously there's a difference between the unbiased teaching of a topic and actively pushing it to maintain an equilibrium.
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 No.1052

>>1010
"Might makes right" must only necessarily work at the highest level. Below that, it's down to the opinion of the powers that be to shape society. Meaning on an individual level, it could be so abstract as to effectively not apply at all in day-to-day life.
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 No.1001 [Open thread]

From http://8ch.net/news+/res/9457.html

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2015/01/14/0956797614562862

"Memory researchers long have speculated that certain tactics may lead people to recall crimes that never occurred, and thus could potentially lead to false confessions. This is the first study to provide evidence suggesting that full episodic false memories of committing crime can be generated in a controlled experimental setting. With suggestive memory-retrieval techniques, participants were induced to generate criminal and noncriminal emotional false memories, and we compared these false memories with true memories of emotional events. After three interviews, 70% of participants were classified as having false memories of committing a crime (theft, assault, or assault with a weapon) that led to police contact in early adolescence and volunteered a detailed false account. These reported false memories of crime were similar to false memories of noncriminal events and to true memory accounts, having the same kinds of complex descriptive and multisensory components. It appears that in the context of a highly suggestive interview, people can quite readily generate rich false memories of committing crime."

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 No.1007

It has been known for over twenty years that false memories can be implanted into welcoming subjects. The Satanic Ritual Abuse scare of the late 1980's and early 1990's is a prime example. Psychologists can convince themselves that the patient has "repressed memories" and in an effort to bring them to light, provide the patient with points of reference from which they can recall events. The problem is that if these events never took place, the points of reference (a time period, a location, a feeling) can be used to construct rather than recall, to the point where the psychologist and the patient end up in a positive-feedback loop, one's certainty pushing the other forward.

What is new about this study is that instead of psychiatric sessions where the subject expected to remember things forgotten, these interviews lacked the clinical aspect. This is important because it shows that individuals don't need a situation where they expect to be introduced to new information about themselves in order to accept such false data, all it takes is pushing the right buttons.
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 No.1020

>>1007
The false memory syndrome foundation which sprung up as a reaction to molestation accusations in the 90's is a very shady organization- I recommend you look into their leadership and administration. While false memories may be a possibility, that organization has in part worked to silence victims of actual abuse.
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 No.851 [Open thread]

http://www.radiolab.org/story/trust-engineers/

a recent investigation of social engineering at facebook by npr show radio lab

none of the techniques or experiments are going to be super new to people here. but it is an look into facebooks particular operations and an accessible starting point to introduce others to the subject.
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 No.956

First thing I notice is how the casual sound effects and language make me less interested in what they have to say.

The information given here is nothing new. It is clearly stated (and has been for quite some time) in the terms and conditions that everything you do while logged in is subject to analysis. I doubt more than a handful of people did more than get pissy when they heard about that. They didn't quit facebook, they didn't e-mail the company, they certainly didn't change their online habits. They were outraged and then got back to sharing their pictures.

The problem isn't with the fact that facebook treats its users as guinea pigs (well, that is a problem, but not the main one), the problem is: what will the data be used for? Selling shoes? making people communicate in a nicer way? Elect presidents?

And the scary thing, the really scary thing that people know but choose not to think about is that the US government and its allies can do that same sort of research and experimentation with most of the open web. If facebook is that large, imagine data from everyone that uses facebook + everyone that uses google + everyone that uses apple products + ...
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 No.1004

Listened to this last week. I like Radiolab on the whole, but this felt a lot like a /hailcorporate/ Facebook plug.

Sounded like the justification of privacy loss.
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 No.1008

>>1004
>Sounded like the justification of privacy loss.

Exactly. While they admitted discomfort with the idea of being used for such experiments and with having their data scrutinized in this manner, they couldn't help but try to justify it, like a nurse explaining the need for a foul-tasting medicine. Only in this case, the medicine is for an imaginary illness.
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 No.1012

Radiolab has been slacking. They need to mix it up.

I'd recommend Invisibilia, an off shoot podcast, for some cool discussions.
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 No.983 [Open thread]

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 No.984

Please post a description of the link, as well as the reason why it is relevant to the board.
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 No.990

>>984
the link directs people to an area whereby they can discover if security services have been spying on them

relevance is because it will help humiliate the state
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 No.260 [Open thread]

Those people interested in discussing these topics for the purpose of coercing and manipulating other people for their own gain, or for perhaps the sheer thrill of it, join us in >>>/vd/

And tell your friends.

We'd love to have you.

Feel free to use this thread to discuss Five Eyes, and their methods of infiltrating most strata of online media. I believe their manifesto/manual was linked a few months ago.
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 No.271

>>261
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/document/2014/02/24/art-deception-training-new-generation-online-covert-operations/

This is one of them, I'm not sure what happened to the one that I saw specifically because it seemed to be chock full of assertions that their goal was to cause something to happen in the real world through infiltrating online groups and causing disturbances there.

http://rt.com/news/five-eyes-online-manipulation-deception-564/
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 No.287

>>271

What the heck could they possibly want? A revolt?

I guess I could see that, they trigger conflict, and harvest the lives of all those who dared to be rebellious and think against their agenda.
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 No.926

It's scary to think how easily human beings can be programmed, especially when they are part of a larger group. Despite our irrationalities, out behavior is terribly predictable and because of that, easily modified.

The idea of training "cyber magicians" is interesting because these trainees themselves may not realize that they are being trained. Last year's XOXO convention comes to mind, as well as Common Core. What are individuals taught in this sort of event? What are the children learning? among other things, to use emotion and deception to change the focus. Naturally, these individuals are not the ones with any real power, but instead useful idiots.

The acquisition of intelligence, the interpretation of data and the delegation of tasks falls upon especially trained individuals and, of course, computers. All levels of deception can be coordinated by a small group of operatives with very specific and complementary tasks.

There are two kinds of people necessary to run this sort of operation: those who understand humans and those who understand systems of information. This means that if you ever find a group of individuals who are involved in disinformation, manipulation and deception, there will be people at the top who have studied the mentioned subjects (anthropology, economics, sociology, psychology, history, political science and biology); cybernetics also comes to mind, despite not being mentioned on the presentation. The only way to truly resist these attacks is by learning about those same topics.
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 No.931

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mind control doc attachment
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 No.932

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5 eyes better watch out
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 No.924 [Open thread]

Any discussion about terrorism must first deal with the problem of defining terrorism. Much like child pornography, most people know what it is, but have a hard time determining where it starts and where it ends. The ideological nature of terrorist actions means that one man’s terrorist is another’s “paramilitary forces”, and a vicious attack can become a demonstration of justified anger if reported by different channels. One central aspect in which most seem to agree, is that what differs terrorists from common criminals is the use of a political justification for their actions, instead of immediate personal gain (after all, if personal gain was the goal there would be no suicide bombers). A terrorist action can never be seen from a neutral perspective: it is always distorted by the political lens of the broadcaster and of the receiver.

This last condition had proven to be a problem for terrorists, as for the most part media has been a passive medium: the audience must go after the sources of information and look for data themselves. TV broadcasts, newspapers, radio shows: all of these are legitimate and recognized sources of information with access to extensive apparatus that allows them to investigate, edit and transmit reports of events. But more important than the technology is the legitimacy, the idea that they are the rightful informers and the bearers of the truth. This remained the accepted system of news transmission for a long time, but the status quo was challenged with the Digital Revolution.

The ability of creating one’s own website greatly increased individual’s power when it came to making their message public. Despite the lack of professional development, these early websites significantly lessened the difference in reach between the common man (or the terrorist) and the established media outlets. A website can be accessed anywhere in the world, at any time, and provide the viewer with information that they were previously deprived off. And all of this for free.

The second level of advancement was the infiltration of media sharing platforms by terrorist networks. Sites like youtube allow the militants to share both ideological and training material with no risk or cost for themselves, while reaching huge audiences (which are bound to include individuals vulnerable to their message). As the credibility of mainstream media decreases, alternative sources for news become more and more attractive, and many times the iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.925

But the most worrying trend has been the use of social media to spread the militant’s messages. These platforms not only allow the sharing of material, but open a direct line of dialogue between the broadcaster and their audience. Reception to material can be easily assessed, allowing for messages to be adapted for greater effectiveness. Questions and criticism can be answered publicly, again bringing the militant and the target audience closer together. The variety of media that can be shared makes it possible for persons with many preferences and resources to be contacted. Finally, the live updates of events often mean that the first reports about an attack come from the terrorist’s perspective.

All of these channels of communication have increased the effectiveness of terrorism by orders of magnitude, with marginal increases in expense and risk. Propaganda, recruiting and training can happen without ever being contact between the recruit and trainers, making lone-wolf attacks ever more likely. Even when terrorists do choose to operate in cells, the connection between cells is dwindling, except for the ideological motivation. The electronic Jihad has proven to be a very profitable initiative.

Naturally, none of this is being ignored by the governments who deal with terrorist threats. Measures are being taken to prevent that terrorist propaganda and training can be distributed online, and the location and monitoring of individuals that exhibit interest in these matters is standard practice. This leads us back to the initial problem: defining terrorism. For every ISIL wannabe that is under scrutiny because he liked some nasheed there are several more “potential domestic terrorists” who present such worrying behaviors as defending their rights to bear arms and demanding freedom of speech in colleges. The arms race is now between those who want to make themselves heard and known without being located, and those who want to suppress their message and find them, while fighting under the flag of freedom.

In conclusion, the evolution and massive expansion of social media, as well as its integration with our daily lives, is perhaps one of the best things to happen to terrorists in the last decades. It is also quite convenient for those that preach for more surveillance and control over information transmission. Those who suffer, as it is usually the case, are the uninvolved civilians who are attacked, targeted, lied to, monitored and siPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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 No.162 [Open thread]

The word “freedom” refers to a very powerful idea, as it is something that almost all people claim to want, and that all intellectuals say is fundamental for humans. It can mean so many things to so many people, and that is where the power of this term comes from: it’s vagueness.

This is the hopefully the first instalment of a series of threads (not necessarily started by me), in which we will investigate the definition of powerful terms constantly used by powerful people. By the way, is that a coincidence? Or are people in power using powerful terms to evoke emotional responses that fit their goals? Hopefully, we will discuss all of that in time.

Definition of FREEDOM
Merriam-Webster:
1: the quality or state of being free: as
a : the absence of necessity, coercion, or constraint in choice or action
b : liberation from slavery or restraint or from the power of another : independence
c : the quality or state of being exempt or released usually from something onerous
d : ease, facility
e : the quality of being frank, open, or outspoken
f : improper familiarity
g : boldness of conception or execution
h : unrestricted use
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 No.743

The way I see it, "freedom" is not a "thing"
You can never be free, you can only strive to be as free as possible
Same thing with perfection
Nothing can ever be perfectly perfect, but that doesn't stop anyone from trying
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 No.763

Rights do not come from freedom. Rights are an artificial construct legislated into being by man.

Freedom exists in the absence of all laws. If rights exist, then where do they come from? Who grants them?

In order to foster civilization we accept limitations to our freedoms, such as the limitation upon one's freedom to steal from another, thus property rights; or the freedom of the government to silence dissenting opinion, hence the USA has a free-speech right. We are not born with the inalienable right not to have things stolen, otherwise you'd have a damn hard time explaining taxes esp. ones lack of ability to opt out of them.

Rights typically protect the freedom of the weak/individual by constraining the stronger/group. However, laws can be created that grant any right however impossible or infringing. One could have the right to unlimited cheeseburgers enshrined in a constitution, such entitlement would be disastrous for those tasked with ensuring this right. Problems arise when frivolous laws are created (such as it being illegal to fish from the back of a camel in Texas), or when laws become outdated or impossible to uphold.

Since both laws AND the rights created by them reduce overall freedom we should always seek to have the least number of laws and rights necessary for civilization. This also works to keeping legislation simpler to understand. We must remain ever vigilant in continuing to seek the answer to the question of what laws are required to achieve whichever level of civilization is desired. Keeping in mind that if no civilization is desired, then no laws or the rights they bring are required.
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 No.764

>>763
What `right' to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not
hearken to his cries. What `right' to life has a man who must die if he is to save his
children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of `right'? If two
men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is
`unalienable'? And is it `right'? As to liberty, the heroes who signed that great document
pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must
be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so called
`natural human rights' that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be
cheap and is never free of cost.

-Starship Troopers
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 No.765

>>764
>What `right' to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific?

None. This is why the animal kingdom is the most free of all nations.
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 No.854

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If you're a part of a state, the word freedom would mean a lack of obligation to follow the states directive. When talking about rights, it is important to note that the rights everyone "has" are determined by the state very technically. ergo, Freedom of speech in definition would entail no government interference with your speech as it is "free" / "unrestricted" - This is not the case. Therefore rights are not statements concerning freedom or liberty.
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 No.859 [Open thread]

The thread about subliminal messages and hidden symbols was taking a turn towards making a symbol of our own, not for the board but for individuals who identify against the Global Elite's agenda (the term "Illuminati" is also something we should reconsider).

The idea would be that persons who subscribed to this idea would include certain elements into whatever media they produced, and would as such be recognized as supporters of our poorly defined cause, much in the same way that masons have symbols they include in every aspect of their lives in order to identify themselves to one another.

Naturally, this would not be something secret, as we are discussing it with people we don't know over the open net.

So why do this? To put it shortly, it is a way to reinforce our spirit de corps (as suggested here: http://www.naderlibrary.com/icouldtellyou.intro.htm#WHY), as well as help identify people who have come in contact and agreed with our goals.

What exactly is our "cause"? As the discussion on >>>136 superficially mentioned, the combat of the monopoly of information power and other commonly accepted goals of the Global Elite.

On the next post I will expand on my ideas.
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 No.902

This is not a good idea. Why are you trying to create a movement? Make your own board for that. This is a board for discussion of what is already going on and has posters with differing ideas and viewpoints. It is not a role play board.
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 No.909

>>902
think of it as an exercise.

by being able to create an anti thetical symbol shows you understand the underlying concept and doing it yourself might reveal new insight into their thought processes.

if something does come of it, we're on 8chan. it wouldn't be hard to start a organization board
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 No.1088

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I always liked light and enlightenment. Light connects, reveals, and allows for coherent unification of things.

In darkness there is disconnect, ignorance, detachment, isolation.

I think the spirit of the 'enlightenment' period of history was fine so far as I can see, only it was misapplied in fervency, contributing at times to chaos instead of a comfortable lightening and easing of things.
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 No.1380

>>860
>>Broken Pillar
This is probably the best.

It's easy to hide within any image.
Pillars already look occult.
It is recognizable.

It's probably going to be a struggle to quickly sketch though.
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 No.1381

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>>1380
>>860

Never mind, masons already have dibs on that.

Maybe just scissors [or the number 32].
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 No.811 [Open thread]

Can someone explain "the deathdrive" to me?

>In the context of political agency
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 No.820

Freud proposed the concept of a death drive as a propensity of living things to return to inorganic state of death.

The death drive was to be responsible for many self destructive impulses, most importantly to this discussion is that of outward aggression.

In a group context he proposed the death drive was deflected outward as aggression towards those outside the group, the effect being that would bring those inside the group closer together.

In political agency this outward aggression could pose as inherent resistance against outsider information and aversion to candidates not in one's group even if they would otherwise align with one's interests.

Freud spoke in private that aggression and eros might have made a better base pair than the death drive, but continued to support the drive none the less.

Neurobiology would seem to confirm that humans have dedicated systems for aggression (amygdala, serotonin), but that it is more important to self preservation than self destruction.
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 No.634 [Open thread]

http://www.digitalnewsasia.com/digital-economy/censorship-shadowy-forces-controlling-online-conversations?page=0%2C0

This article explains how puppet accounts can be used to manipulate social networks, news, and any online community.

Firstly, it is interesting to see that the failed shilling initiative that we tried on the first month of this board could have worked in even more ways than we initially thought.
Secondly, image what a government could do with its technological capabilities and paid professionals instead of bored teenagers at home.
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 No.673

I heard about this already.

It's not hard to imagine it every time I see an entire forum filled with people of the same narrow-minded ideology, who have no interest at all in self-analyzation.

Yeah, amateurs certainly don't have the same resources. Perhaps if someone were smart enough to be able to write good AI bots. Sometimes I wonder if the governments haven't already managed that. The arguments hardly require much sense to be made to begin with.
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 No.699

They mentioned in the article that they had uncovered some evidence that corporations/governments were already participating in this. With the potential these practices have to change views I wouldn't doubt it.
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 No.707

>>634
Here are the slides from Thinkst's talk referenced in that article.

http://conference.hitb.org/hitbsecconf2014kul/materials/D2T1%20-%20Haroon%20Meer%20Azhar%20Desai%20and%20Marco%20Slaviero%20-%20Weapons%20of%20Mass%20Distraction.pdf

We all know it is happening, but seeing evidence of their methods in action helps us recognize it.
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 No.717

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 No.817

Doesnt deserve a separate thread, and is somewhat related so here's this:
HOW COVERT AGENTS INFILTRATE THE INTERNET TO MANIPULATE, DECEIVE, AND DESTROY REPUTATIONS
(caps is theirs)
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
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 No.810 [Open thread]

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 No.1185

>>810
> Reddit's final hour
I can Dig it.
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 No.808 [Open thread]

Baudrillard, Rand, Foucault, Deluze and others

Which is your fav?
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 No.40 [Open thread]

>Is there a favorite type of media for coercion and ideological propaganda?
I have proof that research is being done by Israeli academics into the political applications of memes.
http://www.amazon.com/Memes-Digital-Culture-Essential-Knowledge/dp/0262525437
>In December 2012, the exuberant video "Gangnam Style" became the first YouTube clip to be viewed more than one billion times. Thousands of its viewers responded by creating and posting their own variations of the video–"Mitt Romney Style," "NASA Johnson Style," "Egyptian Style," and many others. "Gangnam Style" (and its attendant parodies, imitations, and derivations) is one of the most famous examples of an Internet meme: a piece of digital content that spreads quickly around the web in various iterations and becomes a shared cultural experience. In this book, Limor Shifman investigates Internet memes and what they tell us about digital culture.

>Shifman discusses a series of well-known Internet memes – including "Leave Britney Alone," the pepper-spraying cop, LOLCats, Scumbag Steve, and Occupy Wall Street's "We Are the 99 Percent." She offers a novel definition of Internet memes: digital content units with common characteristics, created with awareness of each other, and circulated, imitated, and transformed via the Internet by many users. She differentiates memes from virals; analyzes what makes memes and virals successful; describes popular meme genres; discusses memes as new modes of political participation in democratic and nondemocratic regimes; and examines memes as agents of globalization.


>Memes, Shifman argues, encapsulate some of the most fundamental aspects of the Internet in general and of the participatory Web 2.0 culture in particular. Internet memes may be entertaining, but in this book Limor Shifman makes a compelling argument for taking them seriously.


I emphasize:
>discusses memes as new modes of political participation in democratic and nondemocratic regimes; and examines memes as agents of globalization.
Believe it or not, this is the frontier.
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 No.126

>>110
Next time, say "The right needs artists" or "rightist artists would benefit the right", it reveal less about you.
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 No.139

>>126
What do you mean? How is that different from what I said?
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 No.140

>>139
When you say " we need rightist artists" you are apparently identifying yourself as a rightist. From that point on, any one who is left-oriented or has a negative conception of the right will have a bias against what ever you post, even if it makes sense. By maintaining an apparently neutral position for as long as possible you don't alienate any possible readers. In fact, you might say things that they agree with, and when the fact that you are a rightist come to light, they might realize that they agree with some rightist ideas.
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 No.773

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>>45
>give us a definition of "meme"?

Richard Dawkins coined the term as a name for ideas that evolve slowly over time genes. His idea, accelerated by the speed of communication modification available to the largely p2p Information Age, quickly evolved into what we now know as "memes".

A meme is basically a rhetorical device that maintains a higher order structural pattern which harnesses the history of its context, while allowing its mutation, adaptation and application to new situations or rhetoric.

Memes can have audio, visual, and/or linguistic components, and thus are not necessarily placed only within image macros.

For example of the non-image-macro form instance:

> 2015

> not knowing about Richard Dawkins' meme video
> trying to discuss memes.
I seriously hope you guys don't do that!
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 No.781

>>773

>Memes can have audio, visual, and/or linguistic components, and thus are not necessarily placed only within image macros.


and behavioural components, which are the most interesting.
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