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 No.1940 [Open thread]

This is a podcast highly recommended for fellow political veil-lifters:

http://whiterabbitradio.net/podcast-2

It begins with highly informative and perspective changing material concerning active measures demoralization (think Yuri), consensus thinking (all is lost) vs. empowered thinking, and practical politics (i.e. talking-points over useless and giving the left the moral authority through argumentation, backpedalling and apologizing).

Feel free to post any audio resources you have found meaningful.

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 No.1577 [Open thread]

I just recently found this board and really enjoy it, however there are like 1-2 posts every 3-4 days. Are there others boards(can be non 8ch) that touch on these issues and are great for learning?

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 No.1888

>>1868

>revive this board

We've never been this lively to begin with. Think of it as being on life support.

>>1876

What are you theories as to why the quality dropped so much and so fast?

I think it had to do with the large influx of people during the Second Exodus (that was because m00t nuked 4/pol/, right?), which only stopped using 4/pol/ because it was unusable as a platform for "political" (and I'm using the term as generally as possible here) discussion. The fact that they stayed even after it was obvious that the platform was being censored shows that they either chose not to believe in the evidence (which shows naïveté) or that they didn't care as long as it didn't involve jews and they had a large enough audience for their shitposting.

Also, do you have any of those beaverposts saved? They could make for good discussion here, depending on the topic.

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 No.1925

>>1924

not working for me

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 No.1926

>>1924

>>1925

Nevermind, it just saves to desktop for some reason

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 No.1932

>>>/bmw/ for development of political memes & trying them out in the field. Practical Politics & memetic warfare.

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 No.1901 [Open thread]

Our limited capacity to recall information consciously frequently causes long messages to be erroneously recollected, and therefore transmitted. This can be dealt with by condensing one's thoughts into short messages with impact, such as aphorisms and slogans. Not only does this facilitate memorization, but if the individual agrees with the idea being transmitted and likes the way it is depicted in the message, the message itself is more likely to be repeated and consequently memorized by more individuals (because repetition is important for memorization). It is also noteworthy that this tactic (the use of slogans) has been used by cults and political movements all over the world.

What I suggest is that we practice this by writing short messages about psychopolitical topics, sentences or groups of sentences that can be quoted in conversations, both online and in person. We should also look for quotes by famous people regarding the topic, and critique each other's messages.

Here are my attempts:

The most difficult and important part of learning is opening yourself to the possibility that what you know is wrong.

Naturally this does not apply to everyone. While study is meaningless if one is unwilling to accept that one's current knowledge is either insufficient or wrong (making the "important" part true), it can be more difficult to have access to some information than to accept it. Still, this was written with a particular demographic in mind: people interested in politics and science who have access to the internet, meaning that the access to a certain piece of information is unlikely to be the hardest part of learning. The use of "most" adds impact to the phrase, and the use of "you" instead of "one" makes it more personal.

Oversimplification is one of the most widely used and effective manipulation tactics.

The use of the word "manipulation" instead of "rhetoric" or something to that effect makes the message more dramatic and memorable. "most widely used and effective" also serves to cause the reader to look for examples around him, either to prove or disprove this, but either way paying more attention to his information environmePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.1904

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"Wherever power seems to exist, it never exists there."

-Thomas Hobbes

This quote is particularly relevant given that the focal point of all political power seems to orbit around a select group of individuals with excessive amounts of media attention (The president, members of parliament, etc) when there is a greater (if not dwarfing) amount of geopolitical power residing in other entities, particularly multinational corporations.

I liked all of your messages.

Cognitive dissonance is promoted as a virtue in the groupthink social media (read: social engineering) platforms that make up ~90% of internet traffic.

Simplification serves the end of ideological warfare (note all of the neat little groups that society divides itself into - black vs white, male vs female, group vs group, etc etc. It really is class warfare with different wrappings).

Lastly, people are blissfully unaware of manipulation. They see it as the realm of conspiracy, like those funny little "Illuminati" memes they see on the screens. Like, triangles, dude! Funny stuff! What if we're the Illuminati? (They are!)

That probably came off as rambling and pretentious, I apologize. I have an odd sense of humor.

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 No.3428

test, ignore

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 No.1729 [Open thread]

America is not a single country. America is an empire that contains many increasingly divided cultures.

The media/academic/corporate elite are increasing insular, and largely live in enclaves within whatever cultural region they inhabit.

Do you think there's any way to mend the cultural gap or is secession inevitable?

Is there a similar phenomena in other nations any non-American /32/ers could inform us about?

Any non-obvious examples of how these divides lead to media/policy bias?

Further reading:

http://www.amazon.com/Coming-Apart-State-America-1960-2010/dp/030745343X

http://francistapon.com/Travels/Western-Europe/Defending-American-Ignorance

http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/05/castes-of-united-states.html

http://athousandnations.com/2013/11/17/the-new-american-nations/

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2009/08/who-are-us-policy-elites.html

http://www.vdare.com/posts/weirdwestern-educated-industrialized-rich-and-democratic-societies-think-differently

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 No.1786

While it is possible that the USA has had some divisions, they are likely historical. Observers have noted distinction across American cultural groups for a long while now.

Generally, scholars have noted an opposite trend. A growing homogenisation of the English-speaking people generally. Funnily enough, one article you linked tried to defend America's lack of foreign-language ability but failed to notice than NO english-speaking country has good foreign=-language skills. Similarly, while Americans are supposedly is ignorant of foreign-places, it failed to point out that the UK doesn't fair much better either. British people are incredibly ignorant of Europe and much, much more knowledgeable of the USA, Canada and Australia.

Perhaps these new subdivisions show something different. There has been a growing global elite, most of who are English-speaking. Perhaps the elite, disconnected from national-borders, have caused national connecxions in the Anglo-sphere to collapse. This could explain why people feel the USA has broken up slightly culturally and why the home nations of the UK are also falling apart.

Perhaps the modern world we live in will see a pan-Anglo transformation that encourages English-speaking identity formation outside of the traditional nation-states.

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 No.1788

newfag here. this is provocative stuff.

i studied Russian and am pretty familiar with the country's history. I would say that even the current Russian Federation is still an empire, containing quite literally conquered peoples all over its enormous land mass.

An issue, however, is the dependency of some of these regions on the central muscovy-st petersburg state.

This is a tough issue. I mean, what is to be gained by having states fall apart into smaller component sections? Who benefits from the current set-up and who would realistically benefit or trigger a split up?

Other countries that have similar issues of diversity are India and China

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 No.1789

>>1786

you raise some excellent points.

further, i think the pan-anglo transformation is well underway, for good or worse. Worse being that american consumer culture is usually the biggest thing being transferred. second is literal english language learning, which is prevalent in many countries

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 No.1890

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>>1732

We've had a similar issue here in Michigan for years with our upper peninsula and lower peninsula. What's interesting is that the two parts were completely separated for the first 120 years of statehood until the opening of the Mackinac Bridge in 1957. People up there identify as being a Yooper before being a Michiganian and many want to be a separate state. The lower and upper peninsulas differ greatly in culture yet the lower has much greater representation.

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 No.1898

>>1729

>Atlanta as part of the Deep South

kek

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 No.1870 [Open thread]

Y'all would be very interested in UFOs. I recently have had a renewed interest in the subject. I am discovering that, despite what I have always assumed, there are actually many, many reputable eyewitness accounts.

Studying UFOs has allowed me a new perspective on psychopolitics, let me explain.

Read the eyewitness accounts or at least read documents that accurately summarize such accounts, and then read wikipedia, or watch a mainstream video on UFOs.

Here are some things you will notice:

They allow a lot of kooks to dominate the discussion, thereby discrediting any discussion of UFOs (think ancient aliens and youtube hoax videos).

Most mainstream media carefully frame events so as to make it appear that the official, non-ET explanation is the overwhelmingly likely hypothesis. Wikipedia is a good example of this. They do cover both sides but the subtle manipulations are there.

When I think of almost every movie that deals with "first contact," I .always find something that is directly based on an actual reported event. Battle LA was based on a reputed UFO shelling over LA, The Fifth Element has a scene in which an alien paralyzes a human at first contact by "glaring" (flashing eyes) at him (which occurred at the Voronezh UFO incident), and of course the flying saucers and little green men all over the media, which are actually the most reported types of UFOs and UFO occupants (although the occupants are actually quite diverse). Close Encounters of the Third Kind is also consistent with its treatment of UFOs IIRC. Stargate SG 1 involves US reverse engineering of alien technology and other events that some UFOlogists believe are actually happening. Obviously they might be trying to be realistic, but there might also be a motive of hiding the reality by associating it with fantasy.

I'm just beginning to read into some reports, but already I'm learning some crazy stuff that the general public does not know, even though most of it is available in your public library stacks, which is where I get most of my information. (The general public is so conditioned to not believe in UFOs or ETs that they aren't really curious.) For instance, people have been reportedly killed by UFOs. One was a pilot who interceptePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.1930

>>1919

I am probably being a bit to liberal in my theories, but for the most part I am just trying to make a case about the feasibility of ET existence. What is insane about my theories?

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 No.1938

I'm with OP on this one. People against the UFO angle need to substantiate their argument. So if the UFO phenomenon is one giant psy-op, for what purpose? If so, it's the most successful psy-op of all time, one of the first great modern memes, and the progenitor of COINTELPRO that uh...is 1000000x more successful than anything we know as COINTELPRO has accomplished.

Is it a psyop gone out of control? Is the government concealing anything? Is the government selling something? If so, what?

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 No.1955

>>1938

no government on earth could do a global ufo psyop

more likely advanced societies in the universe and galaxy are projecting force

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 No.2062

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>>1955

>no government on earth could do a global psyop

ok

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 No.2095

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>>1887

>>Why would individuals fake UFO sightings?

Why do people dress up like bigfoot and roam about the woods or make fake bigfoot footprints stamps? Why to pranksters prank? Also, publicity.

Furthermore, to discredit the idea that UFOs are real by revealing some events as hoaxes.

Just because you can't reason someone's motive doesn't mean there isn't one.

>>Who has something to gain by making the general population believe in UFOs?

The Military Industrial Complex. The SR71 Blackbird was a top secret experimental craft. As was this picture of an actual USAF UFO (hovercraft, made in Canada). It's no secret that experimental craft exist. What would you do if people saw your top secret craft that you wanted to keep secret? Perhaps propagandize "ALIENS!". Note: UFO merely means Unidentified Flying Object. That it has been associated with aliens so heavily I take to be a successful PSYOP.

>>Explore historic accounts of UFOs and how that might have shaped certain cultures.

Comets used to be "unidentified flying objects", and are heavily documented as being bad omens.

>>How does the cultural, social and economic context of the witnesses influence their accounts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis#Signs_and_symptoms

>>If extraterrestrials were indeed visiting our planet, who would benefit from keeping this hidden? Who would benefit from exposing it?

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 No.1646 [Open thread]

Story for those who haven't read it yet

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2015/05/02/sex-abuse-gangs-in-black-country-significant-similarities-to-rotherham-scandal-say-police/

Alright I'm so done with this, I'm completely done with doing the bare minimum. It feels like the world grows more insane every day as these events are allowed to take place.

I'm aware there are groups that spawned out of /pol/ as early as 2012 to do psy-ops of their own but they're secretive and on their own way.

What is the best method to break this fearful mentality that seems to grip white people? It seems that simply reporting things is not enough, especially since it is being surpressed.

there has to be a better method that turns people faster, I want to learn whatever I can. Throughout the years I've already convinced family and friends, and some aquaintences but its not enough.

I apologize if my post seems a bit dischorded, I'm extremely angry after reading this.

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 No.1740

One thing is for certain. Watch the film straw dogs. The rape in England is intwined within the fabric of society. Its like as common as a gf cheating on you. And of course there is very unadressed masonic and royal themes to such acts of sadism. So not only is it rape its rape riddled in the allowed nuances of the public consensus on fraternal orders and cults as a whole

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 No.1741

>>1737

>>1737

>So, how to bring forward the class and racial identity?

Normally this would have happened/ be happening in any other time throughout history.

The biggest difference now is that so many white males have been raised in front of plastic screens, separated from family, separated from nature and their natural biology. This is the main reason why leftism can only thrive in the new digital age. Why counter your own destruction when you can just jerk off, play video games, drink, do drugs, vape etc. etc. instead. The only thing that will wake up white males in separating them from their current plastic screen masters. I don't see that ever happening.

>cunning marketing,

Nope, not enough. Gonna need the full artillery here folks, no looking back now. Nothing short of a complete disconnect from the digital umbilical cord, coupled with a mass awakening spiritual movement will do the trick.

Maybe convince white males that computers aren't cool after all and the internet (wifi) is actually killing you? Take that idea, couple it with a tough mudder / GoRuck style group, throw in some newbridge church and we are starting to get somewhere...

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 No.1865

>>1741

>The only thing that will wake up white males in separating them from their current plastic screen masters.

Gonna have to disagree with you here anon, as someone mentioned earlier in this thread the best way to give people a sense of racial/cultural identity is to make them realise what amazing and incredible shit has been accomplished by their nation/race is the past, these accomplishments don't even have to be true.

For example, instead of someone watching Roots or other such films/programs, have them watch Zulu. It's not so much about media as a whole being the bad influence as much as it is about common more publicly available media being so, Zulu probably wasn't the best example to showcase this mind. Think of it as an incubation period for nationalistic pride, some neckbearded beta as fuck white guy starts to learn about the things he ancestors did that he should be proud of and they'll start feeling ashamed and want to change that... eventually.

The key as I see it isn't about stopping them falling prey to white guilt propaganda, it's about having them fall prey to the opposite.

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 No.1867

>>1728

>"There is no class associated with whites except evil ceo's/executives etc. or weak, puny kuk's"

Yet here in the UK there are teenager/young adult white memes such as "cheeky nandos" and "lad culture". Popularized through Facebook such as theladbible and dapperlaughs, "Cheeky" and "Banter" are labelled as white words.

>people against lad culture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuLAHKKjqYI

>banter viral video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us9W07b4A08

>explaining lad culture to an American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYF9WleGEPk

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 No.1869

>What is the best method to break this fearful mentality that seems to grip white people?

OP, i was a coward for most part of my life (i grew up mostly with no religion, and my dad was absent).

I changed once became a Christian and i acknowledged that God hates cowards, and that what i should crave in this life is God respect, not human respect.

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 No.1800 [Open thread]

General discussion about 'Outcome Based Education' and other school-related topics.

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 No.1810

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 No.1835

In April 2000, the participants of the World Education

Forum in Dakar, Senegal, adopted the Dakar Framework

for Action “Education for All: Meeting our Collective

Commitment”1. They reaffirmed the vision of the World

Declaration on Education for All2 adopted ten years earlier

(Jomtien, Thailand, 1990) and committed to the attainment

of six goals, supported by 12 strategies, in order to meet

the basic learning needs of all children, youth and adults.

In September 2000, world leaders came together at the

United Nations (UN) Headquarters in New York to adopt

the UN Millennium Declaration, committing to reduce

extreme poverty and setting out a series of targets that have

become known as the Millennium Development Goals

(MDGs). The MDGs included two goals related to universal

primary education and to gender equality in education,

acknowledging the pivotal role of education in human

development.

Today, it is widely recognized that the Education for

All (EFA) agenda and the related MDGs have led

to significant advances for the right to education.

The mobilization and investment which they triggered has

yielded unprecedented progress, notably in access to

formal schooling and in gender parity in primary education.

However, major education challenges still persist in all

countries and regions of the world. Some of them – notably

equity, quality and learning opportunities for youth and

adults – have not received the attention they deserve and

new ones have emerged since 2000, such as the need to

improve the development of relevant skills for life and for

work, for all age groups.

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 No.1836

'Sustainable developments' is the sustainable development plan for the human race if anyone wasn't aware of it. It is mentioned on the last line of the last paragraph.

The rhetoric had changed since the 70's because the European populations of America and Europe went into decline thanks to overworking of the populations, and their subsequent demoralization.

Now we will be forced to embrace 'cultural diversity' in all of our homes.

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 No.1837

>Building on and continuing the EFA movement, Education 2030 takes into account the lessons learned since 2000. A key lesson of the past years is that the global education agenda should work within the overall international development framework rather than alongside it, as occurred with the separate EFA goals and education-related MDGs.

>The agenda’s focus on inclusion and equity – giving everyone an equal opportunity, and leaving no one behind – signals another lesson: the need for increased and special efforts to reach those marginalized by factors such as gender inequality, poverty, conflict and disaster, disability, age and remoteness.

>The focus on education quality and learning recognizes the danger of concentrating on access to education without paying enough attention to whether students are learning. The fact that the EFA goals have not been reached carries a further lesson: ‘business as usual’ will not bring education to all. If current rates of progress continue, many of the countries lagging furthest behind will not reach the new targets by 2030. This means that it is of utmost importance to change current practices and mobilize efforts and resources at an unprecedented pace.

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 No.1841

Very unfortunate that college is basically a necessity nowadays.

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 No.1828 [Open thread]

Unfortunately I only browse this board and pol, so I feel the question is better asked here. I have been watching documentaries or speeches that speak of symbols and signs. The semiotic thread got me interested in signs and I have been watching a few jordan maxwell videos. He studies way back and finds certain signs have been used again and again. I don't know if there is any set thing to study but I am hoping maybe I can find some path from here even though its a huge longshot.

Is there any study of signs throughout time with meanings throughout time?

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 No.1830

>>1828

>I have been watching a few jordan maxwell videos

His real name is Russell Pine and he's a pathological liar and a fraud. He was a butt buddy of Manly P. Hall, he reveres Blavatsky, has get-togethers with George Lucas and his "teachings" were instrumental in creation of the first part of Zeitgeist, which has been debunked thoroughly, even by atheists. Recently he even got on the lizard people bandwagon just to make a quick buck to pay off his debts. Do not ever trust anything that comes from his slimy mouth.

Typical low-life shill, just like Jones, Icke, Gunderson, Watt, Springmeier, Patru and that what's-his-name balding satanist faggot with a half-ponytail. Holy fucking shit, it's like a circus out there. All they need is a bearded lady and a chimp that shits in the hat on command. Well, scratch that - they already have Rense and his wig, kek.

As for the symbols, It's really not that complicated. You just have to remember how the elements are color-coded, what shapes represent the rule "as abowe, so below" and understand the gnostic doctrine when it comes to fallic symbols and eyes in triangles. Also it doesn't hurt to study alchemy and know what it says about androgyny and the perfect merger of the elements, because a lot of symbology comes from that shit. Hell, they make movies based on this shit every year and it's getting really fucking boring. But hey, no originality when there's psychopathy, right?

All in all, top fucking kek.

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 No.1831

>>1830

I understand he reaches quite a bit but some of the stuff he said made sense. Thank you I will look into alchemy

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 No.1819 [Open thread]

I'm not sure how aware all of you are about the current shitstorm 8chan is undergoing - I don't really expect most people to give a shit about imageboard drama - but I think it's something really relevant that's worthy of examination. If you're unaware, here's a brief summary of the situation:

Back in December/January, /int/ was basically undergoing a period of quality posting, both in developing a board culture and having light discussions. By February, this began to change, mostly because the board owner (who was friends with and given control of /int/ by Hotwheels) started to purposefully run the board into the ground. Hotwheels himself also played a large part in turning the board into a shitshow. Eventually we got fed up with it, and about a month ago most of us migrated over to /intl/, with a new hotwheels-free owner. We've spent the last month trying to recover the board culture we'd lost, and just as things were starting to get better, the current bullshit started. As you probably know, Reddit mods started banning several subreddits, which caused many redditors to migrate here. The most significant was the 'fatpeoplehate' community, which quickly became one of the largest boards on 8chan. At this point, dozens of 8chan regulars started to spam the board, which caused others, Hotwheels included, to become angry that this 'new migration' was being stunted and so many new users were being lost (because the 2nd exodus was such a boon to us, right?). Hotwheels took advantage of that anger and basically accused /intl/ users of doing all of the raiding. This was blatantly untrue (there were maybe 2 or 3 /intl/ users tops, and certainly no organized raiding), as well as unprovable. However, most of this site's users really knew nothing about /intl/, and assumed it was just a shitposting board, and believed Hotwheel's bullshit (Something similar has happened in the past as well - back when we still used /int/, /pol/ somehow became convinced that all the users were a bunch of Something Awful users who had come to ruin 8chan.). Hotwheels then encouraged everyone to go shit up /intl/ (just look at /b/, there's still a raid sticky up right now), and now he's made the board owner resign and be replaced with another of his IRC circlejerk friends.

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 No.1823

>>1819

>there were maybe 2 or 3 /intl/ users tops

There were about 15 of regular posters judging by presence in saturday movie streams.

I find the whole event intriguing to observe, at least; it shows how gullible average poster is to information from authority. The whole thing of course translates into real life as well...

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 No.1824

>>1823

On the other hand this constitutes slander, and the average poster could simply be using the authority's word as an excuse.

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 No.1827

I don't follow drama between boards at all, and only check a few boards. If what you say is true... thats sad

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 No.1829

I stay out of drama so I have no idea what happened, but wouldn't the OP be an ironic example of "mass manipulation" in itself? who is to say the post is 100% true? where can one go to even confirm this sort of information? I'm not saying he's lying, I really don't know. but how much information that we consume can we really say is without doubt an unbiased first hand source? and even if it was first hand, how much can we confirm to be truth? I understand the OP is referring to a leadership and subordinate dynamic, but I hope my point will still be clear.

manipulation happens, to an extent, within every communication shared by two or more individuals. most people would choose to "frame a narrative" in their favor, sometimes not even 100% consciously. there is so much to interpersonal communication that is often overlooked by individuals, and without even thinking most people "fill in the cracks", per say. words and phrases conjure up images in a person's mind. it's practically magick if you think about it.. neuro linguistic programming and the like. with enough knowledge of an individual's thoughts, feelings, behaviors, experiences, etc. one can very easily manipulate a person through word choice alone, forget adding in emphasis, gestures, tonality, touch, facial expressions, etc.

something as simple as "golden arches" can conjure up numerous smells, tastes, sounds, feelings, etc. in a person's mind. "I was robbed" and "I was mugged" are two very similar phrases and arguably can be referencing the same exact event, but they conjure up (at least for me) very different mental imagery. someone who was mugged was surely robbed, but simply being stolen from does not mean a person was "violently mugged". I could be pick pocketed and declare "I was mugged once" and garner sympathy from my audience even if no literal violence occurred.

I know it's not the best example but I hope I got my point across at least somewhat. language, while serving it's purpose, is fundamentally flawed. very intelligent people can easily convey their thoughts to others in an easy to consume fashion, but even they are limited by words. and if all of the words in existence weren't enough, they're further limited by words their audience understands. I wish I was one of those people bPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.1832

>>1829

>I'm glad to have found this board

I'm glad you did. We need people like you.

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 No.1811 [Open thread]

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 No.207 [Open thread]

Recently, I have established a minor subversive element within a particular socio-political movement. Essentially, I have created a product/brand, have begun to establish networks within the target audience, and hope to eventually make a decent cash flow from the product via the target audience. It has come at no cost to me, using entirely free sites such as Society6, Twitter, and Tumblr. The product is a series of shirts with slogans and associated artwork.

My intentions being: To take the revenue from the product which will derive from Group A, and give a great deal of the profits to charities which benefit Group B.

My secondary objective with this product, is to take the "memes" of Group A, and to amplify them as close to absurdity as possible.

To summarize:
-I belong to Group B
-My target audience is Group A
-I take in revenue from Group A, posing as a member of Group A
-I then give percentage of profit to Group B via charity.
-Simultaneously, given nature of the medium, I am in a position to amplify the slogans of Group A to points of absurdity, there-by minimizing the effect of Group A on larger society.

It's a drop in the bucket, but still something which affects the physical world.

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 No.229

>>218
That does present you with some limitations.

How about starting a rumor? You'll need at least two identities, but you can spread the information that you are having a relationship with a prominent leader in the movement. Even better if said leader is married or dating someone else.
Of course, you don't want to be known as a home-wrecker, so at some point make a public statement saying that you are not and never was in a relationship with him. Carefully balance waiting for the story to pick up steam and for it to become fact.
Perhaps a picture of said leader with an unidentified female would help. You them explain (after a few days) that it's not you in the picture. Of course, now the leader must explain who the female in the (supposedly suggestive) picture is, creating doubts about his fidelity but keeping you out of harm's way. You might need a female accomplice in order to prove that you aren't the woman in the picture. This is in accordance with Nelson's "Subversion of Social Movements by Adversarial Agents", discussed in another thread.

Also, does anyone else's buttons show in some asian language?
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 No.231

>>229
Mine did briefly but after I made a post it changed back to English
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 No.429

>>213
in regards to your first sentence, this is why twitter, against my expectations years ago, became so influential; it allows people with no audience to become influential IF they manage to jam the conveyance of a complex thought into 140 characcters that dont even require that they necessarily be read in full since everyone has an endless stream of many people's dissociated thoughts to scroll through. in many cases i might even call the "electronic celebrities" that flowered as a result victims of popular culture because they have managed to hum the song of the zeitgeist without ever knowing how to actually read music. as a result, they CANNOT disengage without losing relevance as well as w hatever validation they had come to expect
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 No.1765

So I assume you're basically doing what the MRAs who sold 'male tear' mugs to feminists are doing? Donate the profits to MRA organizations?

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 No.1799

>>1765

Did they really do that? I can't find a reliable source on that.

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 No.1794 [Open thread]

Take a very long-winded, unappealing document and memify it in a way that will make it more accessible/interesting and thus more likely to be read. This falls under "Study memes, from their creation to their final effect. Possible experiment with meme creation,".

I'll start.

document is this: http://cassiopaea.org/2010/09/17/the-greenbaum-speech/

>tfw no gf and Nathaniel Rothschad has literally thousands of "Beta" sex slaves

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 No.1147 [Open thread]

So guys, I have to write 300-500 words on how I can see examples of the following in our world today:

·The idea that science and technology can be used to control people.

·How propoganda can be used to control people.

·How money, advertising and propoganda can manipulate voters.

and my first thought was that you guys would know the most about that. So what examples ARE there?
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 No.1149

>>1148
it's actually college level but to you guys it might seem like highschool level cause I'm dirty foreigner
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 No.1150

>>1149
>to you guys it might seem like highschool level cause I'm dirty foreigner

Firstly you are assuming that we are not from the same country and that we are all college educated. You shouldn't assume anything about us.
Secondly, you assume that because you are going to college in a different country than the one you imagine we are in, the assignment will seem like it is from a lower level of education. That is an underestimation of the level of your college and an overestimation of the level of our colleges.
Thirdly, you assume a self-depreciating position because of your perceived status as a foreigner.
Finally, it's "I'm a dirty foreigner". You forgot the article.

That's a lot of assumptions.

When is the assignment due? Would you like to tell us more about what you are studying? Can you post it here when you are done?
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 No.1226

Any news on this, OP?
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 No.1228

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Jesus, 300-500 words? That's barely enough to even explain what the science of manipulating people even means in the 21st century. You haven't even started to prove its existence. Then again, the first "topic" of your list covers the 2 other topics you named.
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 No.1767

>>1147

Oh, the irony is intense.

>300-500 words

OP is clearly in high school.

>on how I can see examples of the following in our world today

Write 300-500 words on why you see no examples in modern society, and call your teacher a conspiracy theorist. They want you to blame the 'dumb' majority for the problems of the oligarchy. That's what everyone else does, because it makes them feel special.

>·The idea that science and technology can be used to control people.

"Science and technology are forces of invention that have only furthered communications. They filter out propaganda, by equalizing all voices and slowly progressing them towards the same volume. Before the internet, only the more monetarily endowed of people would be able to have their voice heard, and their opinions shown to a worldwide audience. Before the television, only people capable of packing newspapers onto ships, moving them across the oceans of the world would be able to have their ideas heard by other people. Now, we can transmit ideas on a whim, and they can affect people."

>·How *propaganda* can be used to control people.

"People can only be convinced of truths and untruths based on their own free will. Propaganda can not be used effectively anymore, as everyone is capable of putting their ideas on display in a way that is accessible to the majority of people. Propaganda is drowned out by the majority who is able to speak freely. Misleading information is dying out, as anything published through common telecommunications now has to be thought of as a lie until proven true, due to anyones ability to speak on it. Everyone has an opportunity to question and oppose the ideas put forth by propaganda, and everyone makes it mandatory through the belief that everyone on the internet is a liar."

>·How money, advertising and *propaganda* can manipulate voters.

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 No.1701 [Open thread]

Here's an interesting site I stumbled across:

http://darkpatterns.org/

>A Dark Pattern is a user interface that has been carefully crafted to trick users into doing things, such as buying insurance with their purchase or signing up for recurring bills.

>Normally when you think of “bad design”, you think of the creator as being sloppy or lazy but with no ill intent. This type of bad design is known as a “UI anti-pattern”. Dark Patterns are different – they are not mistakes, they are carefully crafted with a solid understanding of human psychology, and they do not have the user’s interests in mind. We as designers, founders, UX & UI professionals and creators need to take a stance against Dark Patterns.

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 No.1709

So like trying to diverge user clicks to a certain place, or something more malicious?

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 No.1710

>>1709

Intentionally designing an interface badly/withholding information from the user in order to dope the user into buying/signing up for something they don't actually want, yes.

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 No.1712

What is the function of Design in general?

Be it buildings, automobiles, appliances or websites, designers choose the shape, size, disposition, number and location of components in order to achieve maximum safety, effectiveness and aesthetic value. These three qualities, in that order, come from the roman book “De Architectura”, which states that “a structure must exhibit the three qualities of firmitas, utilitas, venustas”, meaning it should be firm (solid, safe, stable), useful (it should serve its function) and beautiful. The order is a logical one, since a beautiful object that does not serve its function is useless, and one that does at great risk to the user is not worth using. Allow me exemplify:

A hammer is a simple tool used for beating things (usually nails) with great force. If it had a flexible handle, like a Morningstar, it would allow the user to exert more force with the same effort, but with significantly greater risk. The current design is safe enough without sacrificing force generation or precision. If we were to make a beautiful hammer out of porcelain, it would be aesthetically pleasing, but ultimately useless as a tool. It could serve as a decoration piece, but it wouldn’t be a hammer anymore, it would be a piece of art, and the beauty would serve the new function (which would be simply to be beautiful).

The designer must work to achieve these three qualities, in this order. In the case web design, the page must be safe in the sense that it does not allow for the infection of the user by malware (something relatively simple); it must present the information it needs to present in a clear and accessible way, being the exposure of information the basic function of websites; and it should be aesthetically pleasing, so that the user is not turned off from using it or his eyes grow tired fast.

In the same way that a physician must care for the physical well-being of the patient, the web designer must make sure that the information on the website is easy to locate and access. To do otherwise would be incompetence. To do otherwise purposely would be unethical, in the same way as planned obsolescence of physical equipment.

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 No.1763

>>1709

Putting the 'buy now' button in the upper left hand corner, big green download buttons that redirect to a download the user didn't expect, and even paying an extra fee for something you don't need if you don't uncheck a box.

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 No.1746 [Open thread]

How is "quality" defined on an imageboard (or in a discussion medium in general)?

How can quality posts be encouraged and preserved?

How can knowledgeable posters be brought in, and what best induces them to share what they know?

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 No.1747

I think that knowledgeable posters may be most inclined to contribute in speculative or collaborative threads, ones where users are called to share their opinion.

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 No.1748

That's an interesting question, because every attempt to answer it so far has been counterproductive authoritarian nonsense.

What we need is informative highly qualified posters to answer about what makes them come to, and respond to, an online community.

Freedom is probably a big thing. I'm most likely to come to a website I can experience new and interesting information at. I'm most likely to stop visiting a website that has the same information rehashed endlessly.

A board like /n/ or /pol/ is limited by the news cycle, but this board is only content limited by the amount of intelligent and interesting opinions we can attract.

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 No.1756

A reduction in quality may actually provide an increase later as setting a good standard may put off good posters who recognise their failings like the peasants outside Stirner's milk-shop.

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 No.1757

>How is "quality" defined on an imageboard (or in a discussion medium in general)?

Quality has a subjective aspect to it, as readers often associate a text's quality with its compatibility with their world views. For example, a fascist might say a very well-worded and sourced blog post is of low quality because it talks about Marx in a positive light. If we look at the matter in this way, quality is not only a factor of the material, bot something that varies according to the reader.

We might want to look for universal quality indicators. I certainly think of a few:

First and foremost, clarity of message. If a post is worded in such a way as to prevent easy comprehension it is necessarily of bad quality. I am not referring to texts where the poster uses unusual vocabulary or discusses obscure topics, but to failures to transmit information in a way that can be understood without a double meaning or with an obscure one.

Correct use of grammar and spelling are (as I see it) important even when looked at independently from the first factor. They indicate that the poster cares about abiding by the rules of communication, knows them, and considers the place of posting (be it the thread or board) worthy of the effort to abide by them. Despite being more of an indicator of the poster's quality, it is also related to the post.

Profanity should be considered an indicator of a lack of quality. One might argue that there are situations/threads where the use of profanity is acceptable (and sometimes encouraged); the way I see it, being in such a thread is likely already an indicator of low quality in itself, unless the poster is trying to rescue a thread that has descended into a flame war or such.

Needless aggression should also be shunned. To seek or fuel conflict, especially on the internet, denotes a tremendous lack of perspective on the part of the poster. Even if "the other guy started it", appealing to needless confrontation achieves nothing except entertain small-minded spectators. By remaining calm and polite one indicates one's superior control over themselves.

Politeness, as mentioned, can probably also be taken into account.

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 No.1758

>>1757

>As you see, most of these actually refer to the quality of the poster rather than the quality of the post itself; the two are likely very closely related.

Exactly, the people are the primary determinant of the quality of a community, not the technology and rules of the online space it resides in. A quality community is one that manages to attract and maintain a group of decent and intelligent individuals who encourage each other to contribute content to the community.

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