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 No.690 [Open thread]

Lucis Trust set to define world goals in 2015.

In 2015 the United Nations Millennium Development Goals are due to expire. Eight clearly defined goals for human development, each with a set of measurable targets, were agreed by Heads of State at the UN during the visionary days leading up to the threshold of a new millennium on January 1 2000.

https://archive.today/c7Pgv
http://www.lucistrust.org/en/service_activities/world_goodwill/newsletter/recent_issues/2013_1/beyond_2015_a_goodwill_vision
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 No.2492

I'd like to add my two cents on the matter by drawing your attention to a specific organization that does actually function today. The Swissindo alliance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KccEizXNnJs

http://www.fourwinds10.net/resources/uploads/pdf/the_brief.pdf

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 No.2506

>>2488

Is that the evidence we're using? Is it really?

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 No.2519

>>2488

They've had ECOSOC consultive status with the UN since at least 1989 and have participated in several meetings since. They're listed as an NGO.

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 No.2524

>>2492

Explain what is this?

>>2519

This another group which had the ECOSOC

www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Planetary_Citizen

its followup after dissolution the is ASSOCIATION OF WORLD CITIZENS in 1975 that is ECOSOC to this day

www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=284 see bottom published in New York Time

is it religion?

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 No.2569

>>2524

Looks like another post-ww2 utopian new age movement. Not sure how active they are anymore, but their website is... bizarre, to say the least. Especially their iso 26000 stuff. Weird how there's not more information on them.

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 No.244 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

So has anyone here noticed subliminal hidden messages within popular movies and TV?

Is it "merely coincidence"? Or are these subliminal images, numbers and messages put in our media for a reason?

I'll start off with a few Sandy Hook subliminal messages found within the third Dark Knight movie, which was released on July 16, 2012, long before The Sandy Hook "Shooting" on December 14, 2012.

For a fully detailed exploration of the Sandy Hook subliminal's, with evidence and sources, please see this thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1u51vz/investigating_the_strange_coincidences_and/

I'll also post other images of hidden imagery from other movies.


Pic related - This is the prop map sent out to various bloggers and media as part of the Dec 16th 2011 - Dark Knight Rises viral marketing campaign.
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 No.2551

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghb6eDopW8I#t=0m44s

At first I thought it said "but though the truth lay in happiness"

The official lyrics say "'cause though the truth may vary this"[1]

Post what you think it says in spoiler tags then listen with the official lyrics

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY8rOSyR5Rw#t=0m44s

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 No.2552

>>2551

It could just be that they meant vary over time not vary from person to person and they didn't think that when one says for instance 'thing X is in place P' what is really meant is 'thing X is in place P in time period T' (Is this how English is spoken do yo think?)

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 No.2558

>>1589

>youtube link

Jezz why don't you just give me a link to the FBI so I can submit a form telling them who am I?

Seriously, webm it

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 No.2565

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>>/pol/4386215

Sorry no non-YT version as youtube-dl won't download sound for some reason.

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 No.2566

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Maybe the Discworld novels by Terry Pratchett?

They have internal contradictions (the first book even has them in the same paragraph!) and in the 1st book at least glorify illogic and illusion.

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 No.894 [Open thread]

The recent episode of Law& Order Special Victims Unit deals with the problem of online harassment of women involved in gaming. It depicts a dedicated programmer who is doxxed swatted, kidnapped and raped by a small group of males who are enraged by her presence in the gaming world. Most of you which have watched this episode or read about it have already figured out it is a blatant piece of ideological propaganda, so let's take a moment to analyze the message a bit more clearly.

The first element that catches our attention is the complete lack of subtlety in introducing to the viewer such trending technological terms as "noob" and "camping". The majority of the characters seems clueless in regards to this world of video-games, but hopefully Ice-T's character is there to provide exposition. This was not a case of lack of perception or bad writing, it was in fact a deliberate attempt at alienating individuals who actually understand gaming culture, because such viewers are much less likely to accept the message that is to come. These encyclopedic quoted during dialogue allow the individuals who are not familiar with the topic to believe that they are learning about it, and thus validate their notion that their opinions on the subject are valid.

Despite the obvious reference to current events, the writers are very careful to change the details in order to fit the narrative into what was reported by the major news outlets. The first and most obvious change is the fact that the harassment is motivated not by an ethical matter, but by the mere fact that the target is a woman involved in gaming. Yes, there is a brief mention that she is suspected with having slept with someone in order to gain favor with investors or somesuch, but in all of the instances that the criminals make themselves heard, the attack is not justified by this rumor (which not denied), but by their nonacceptance of the fact that women are involved in gaming.

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 No.897

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 No.899

>>897
I guess that makes the thread superfluous.

Anyone else having problem posting from tor?
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 No.974

>>899
no this is a necessary thread / discussion
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 No.2512

Last week I saw an episode about 3 black kids bullying an white transsexual boy. The discussion goes on, and by tossing the white boys camera around, eventually he fallen on the chest of one of the black kids while trying to catch the camera from. The black kid reaction was to push the white boy, who got pushed out the bridge.

The episode goes on, and eventually the tranny dies. The leftist propaganda started with the "muhh he didn't done nothing" "muhh he's good boy", and also with the dead boy parents saying that the black kid who was being charged with murder should not be incarcerated, and stuff like that.

At the end of the episode, the judge finally brings the verdict by charging him as an adult and convicting the black kid for the homicide of the transsexual boy.

This episode was bough by my teacher in one of my law school classes here in Brazil. Almost all the class who doesn't know shit about the American legal system and under age prosecution, agreed that the North American system was unfair, obviously by the propaganda the episode bought with it.

Why the boy needed to be incarcerated? Why he should be treated as an adult? He's just a boy, for god sake! That was the line of thinking off the vast majority, and this was used by the teacher to show how much the Brazilian system was "superior" from the north American one in the prosecution and treatment of the crimes committed by under ages.

Here in Brazil, if an under age commits any kind of crime, even the most brutal homicide, the penalty is, at most, 3 years on a special facility just for teens. I think this is insane! And that is the kind of think the Law & Order want to be the motto on the United States, by doing this kind of propaganda.

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 No.2555

>>2512

Teaching institutions have always used non-academic media as a resource, but usually they have been books of classical literature/poetry, or at most films. Now we see things such as video-games and TV shows also being used to "complement" the official curriculum. I wonder how the relationship between entertainment and teaching will evolve in the coming years.

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 No.2542 [Open thread]

Check this link: https://archive.is/7C9Um

Besides the irony of gawker having a blog to check if news are factual (pot calling the kettle....) its amazing how many news are just plain blatant lies with poorly photoshopped pictures and how hard is to stop them from spreading.

This reminds me of the recent shootings in the USA where all blogs rushed to say it was 3 white men in military gear who did and continued to say it even a day after it was proved they were a muslim man and his pakistani muslim wife. Then they proceeded to say the couple had nothing to do with ISIS even though now the FBI has confirmed there is a strong connection.

The reason why I mention this last case is because it shows the risk that fake news can trigger a massive domino effect when there is literally no interest at all to have check any facts and the news being reported are not trivial filler but the kind of stuff that could trigger a war.

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 No.2546

>>2542

>news being reported are not trivial filler but the kind of stuff that could trigger a war

Tell me friend, are you familiar with the Spanish-American war?

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 No.2549

>>2546

Yes, ironically that happened during a context where news had degenerated to merely a 'business of attention span' not unlike blogs today

Back then newspapers had to compete for attention on the streets so it was all about manufacturing news with big outrageous headlines, after all who cares if its a lie? they already paid for the newspaper and thats all the people printing them cared about

Same with blogs today, its all about getting people's attention and get them to click so they go to another page and see another set of ads. Who cares if the news are fake? they already saw the ads so the blog gets paid

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 No.2529 [Open thread]

My brother is morbidly obese to the point where he may die in 10 years if he doesn't change.

I've tried kindly talking to him, I've tried rudely motivating him, I don't know what to do to help him. Do you have any books I could read to give me an idea on how to properly lead him to the right path?

I'm sorry this is a blog post, please delete it if you'd like. I just need ideas

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 No.2530

tell him that he is being conditioned into staying obese by the parasitic hosts of his intestinal flora that drug him with artificial reward to profit from his excessive consumption

he's being morphed into a food junkie by bacterias that don't give a fuck that they will kill him

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gut-bacteria-help-make-us-fat-and-thin/

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7122/full/nature05414.html (paywall, sorry)

hopefuly this will shake him into reading stuff about nutrition and initiate the effort to save his own life

but it's gonna be hard

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 No.2535

>>2530

Can't see how you giving a fat guy the information that the problem is some bacteria shit on his stomach that makes him fat would help at all.

This would just justify the reason why he's fat and why he can't or why would be more difficult to loss weight.

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 No.2536

File: 1449902832746.pdf (6.11 MB,1445666340225[1].pdf)

You're looking for information on Social Engineering.

Read Chapter 1 for an overview and chapter 6 for more details on what you want. I suggest reading the whole thing though because it's definitely worth it.

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 No.2537

>>2536

Focus on the fact that it's not about what you want.

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 No.2538

It is extremely unlikely that he doesn't understand the dangers of obesity to his health, considering the wealth of information available even to some of the lest informed people around. It is unlikely (although not as much) that he does not understand the reasons for him being fat, i.e. the surplus of calories. In case he in fact does not understand this, you should teach him, although I strongly suspect that you have tried this already. If you haven't, try teaching him about it in a way that does not relate to his situation specifically (instead of "you are fat because of...", use "people gain and lose weight because of..."), so that he does not interpret the information as part of "another one of his scoldings" and block it out.

So why is he fat? He is fat because his calorie input is greater than his calorie expenditure, that part is obvious. But why is that? He eats too many calories, and exercises too little. You need him to eat less calories and exercise more. I am aware of the obviousness of what I'm saying, I'm just trying to draw a clear and linear train of thought.

Why does he eat so many calories? His over-eating might be rooted in emotional issues, so that he seeks comfort in food. In that case, rudely motivating him and making him feel bad about himself in unlikely to help because it will increase his anxiety and self-hatred. It might also be that he looks for enjoyment in tasty foods and it happens that the tastier foods are also the most caloric ones. In that case, he is used to consuming foods with so much sugar, sodium and flavoring that he is almost unable to taste "regular" food; you can help by changing his food habits by introducing him to foods that are both tasty and healthy, slowly de-conditioning him from his current habits and helping him regain his sense of taste. Learning to cook together can be fun and good bonding experience.

How can you help him exercise more? He needs three things in order to exercise properly: knowledge, discipline and motivation.

He needs knowledge in order to exercise correctly in a way that will both have results and not cause injuries. Without knowing how to exercise, he can put in a great amount of effort with little to tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2509 [Open thread]

You know before this BLM nonsense started I remember police brutality being a BIG issue

They were getting close to talking about it in congress

And then out of nowhere comes this group of borderline insane people with no clear target except "fuck the cops" who don't care that police brutality affects everyone and not just black people and who are hostile to pretty much every other group. They even go and harass sanders who is by far the most leftwing candidate yanks have had in decades.

Of course this group is full of shady characters, people known to run scams in the black community, white people pretending to be black, ex-cons and to top it off they are receiving funding from some VERY shady sources that really have to reason to back this people.........

..........unless of course their objective was to derail the police brutality conversation away from reasonable discussion and into the realm of bullshit circular logic and race card nonsense so people will just get tired of it and the whole issue dies down.

Opinions?

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 No.2514

This is a very legit post. They somehow managed to turn an issue of oppression and fascist police brutality into a race thing.

It's basic actually, divide and conquer and cultural Marxism are one of the same. They deflect the blame from the one in charge to a lesser issue. This has been going of for millennials, before it was this vs that religion, or this vs that Nation, but undoubtedly, those orchestrating the conflict always win in the end, they can determine the outcome.

Instead of being the target, the politician uses the potential enemies as a force to his own advantage, two flies in one swat.

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 No.2522

I would not be surprised if BLM were co-opted by a COINTELPT type group. If I remember correctly BLM started out pretty reasonable, now they're the go-to when you want a stupid college protest.

The US has an extra special hate boner for civil rights groups, especially black ones.

The funding is also pretty suspicious. A bunch of rich, white patriarchs the groups is supposed to hate.

Look at who they target, both in terms of people and organizations.

-Reasonable college professors (can't have that!)

-Bernie Sanders (their best representative in the upcoming election...why him?)

-People calling for equality between all races

-Journalists trying to shed light on BLM

-Essentially anybody trying to take a rational stance on their issues

Even if they're not being actively co-opted, they're definitely playing right into someone's hands.

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 No.2523

BLM is funded at least partially by Jew George Soros. OP makes a very good point. I feel stupid for sort of buying into it. However, where I live police brutality is a real serious concern so I never completely fell for it. I am going to re-post OP's post word for word and see what kind of responses appear.

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 No.2525

>>2523

>BLM is funded at least partially by Jew George Soros

source?

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 No.64 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Let's make a handbook for all of the basic persuasion/dissuasion/subversion/etc. techniques.

Nothing ridiculously in-depth, but a useful explanation of each tactic (and an example) would be beneficial. I will bring them all together into a "PsyOp Handbook" once we've got all of the main bases covered.

If you don't know a name for a tactic, just give an example…or make a good name up, if there isn't one.
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 No.2438

>>2344

essentially to buffer the forward momentum of the group, contain the energy with repetitive lateral movements until you can fracture the group.

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 No.2453

>>64

I would like to suggest refering/linking sources that contain information on this topic and also related ones. I personally very much like

https://www.criticalthinking.org/pages/the-critical-mind-is-a-questioning-mind/481

this whole website and their books too, and you can find some of them on

gen.lib.rus.ec

PIRATE LIBRARY

also sci-hub.io

PIRATE scientific publications

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 No.2463

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>>1053

The powerful thing about this technique is that a fractured narrative is easier to frame.

Example, Edward Snowden. Start at 22:30 from the related video. When asked who Snowden is, most people only bring up vague media talking points. "Oh, didn't he sell the Russians some secrets?" "Wasn't he that terrorist hacker?", etc.

When people don't know the full story, it's much easier to frame and twist. By presenting the story as unknowable complex and difficult to understand, it removes peoples' will to understand it. "All this is confusing, the government has people to figure this out".

With a fractured narrative, people clamor for an easy answer and explanation, and 9 times out of 10, that answer is a biased one supplied by the Gov or MSM.

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 No.2467

>>290

>[they were] in the vast minority on every poll taken - they were consistently about 8 people on every poll, I suspect it was the same 8 every time

It's very easy to change IPs Anon; just letting you know.

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 No.2499

>>291

What about "normalfag" or "cancer"?

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 No.724 [Open thread]

Requests for thread topics:

Guy Debord
Jean Baudrillard
Michel Foucault
Marshall McLuhan
The Sociology of Game Shows

Feel free to add to this list or make a post on one of the topics.
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 No.2468

>>2435

What I meant was the way anonymity might affect our minds if at all.

There's >>2101 but maybe there should be a more general thread.

Relevant: http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1442763088/ and it's X-posts and off-site links.

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 No.2470

>>2298

So, if you'd like to stop being so arrogant in your ignorance, I could actually teach you what is going on. Its sort-of similar to what you think, but different enough that your paradigm is totally ineffective at combating it.

What do you think IS going on then? I'm quite interested.

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 No.2480

>>2470

don't bother anon. Hegelianism is a nihilistic cancer that was founded for the express purpose of justifying transhumanist-oriented usury of human life. To put it bluntly and cutting an incredibly long story short, Hegel believes that the subconscious is this magical primordial soup that creates thought/thesis and that it is the consciousness's DUTY to generate Antithesis in order to propagate itself through Synthesis. What Hegels ignores is that the subconscious is inadvertently altered by the process which indicates that there must logically be an even more supernal realm of ideological emanation. Marxists hate this because it means there is sufficient ground in believing in a divine presence.

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 No.2481

>>2280

oooh I love deleuzian rhizome theory. But unfortunately it's too caustic for the ego.

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 No.2507

>>2470

I guess he didn't know

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 No.2270 [Open thread]

Found this on /pol/ and I think it has a lot of crossover with this board's topics.

Basically this video series ties together academics and business people people in a "conspiracy" to redirect gaming culture to make it acceptable for use in schools. The games which are intended for use in school present politically correct agendas and are designed to change the attitudes of their players.

The videos can be viewed on a youtube playlist or embedded webms, both found here

>>>/thinkserious/1

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 No.2330

>>2270

It's really the same old...

>New platform for media and information

>Control the sources and evaluation

>Force the non-controlled sources to make way for your will with 'evaluation' - followed by the sheep herds of consumers

And there you have it. TV, Radio...

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 No.2331

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 No.2332

>>2270

Do you guys imagine games to be effective at creating social impulses in children? I think so, it's very frightening.

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 No.2398

>>2332

If the game has clear intentions to do so then yes. No kid got into the army because of halo because they knew it was fantasy, but I see that a lot of people from my gen (millennial) have been influenced by propaganda we were given as kids which in retrospective was engineered for that purpose and little else

Think captain planet: none of the enemies/bad guys are pro-nature (to represent some real bad environuts like the ALF) nor are any of the good-guys industrialists with a sustainability angle. No, its all clear-cut nature and industry, there is no middle point, you were either a planeteer or one of the evil guys pushing for technology and industry thus killing mother earth/gaia

Like most of us barely cared but now I see the consequences of this

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 No.2479

>>2332

what is ludology?

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 No.937 [Open thread]

This may initially seem like an off-topic discussion, but consider the following:

Art is an expression of the ideas of it's maker. It varies according to trends and cultural values. Old civilizations can be studied through their art, and current artists often represent our views of the future. Art is a cultural (and therefore both social and psychological) element of a society.

So I want to know, what do you consider art? How do you define it? What is its purpose, and what should its purpose be?
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 No.982

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>>980
Marshall McLuhan is so relevant to this board. He deserves his own thread started by someone smarter than me.
He was a sociologist/philosopher/what have you who wrote about the blossoming information age through the 50's and 60's. He coined the term "the global village". One of his major points was that "the medium is the message". In this he is referring to a communications medium, something like newspaper, online news, image boards, etc: the meta-packaging for communications contents. The message is the substance being communicated, this is a little more straightforward.

So he was saying that in the post modern era, with the ubiquity and speed and even centralization of information, the medium becomes more important than the substance of communication. Think style over substance. Think really meta, about context and signifiers, like what does it mean that there is a psychopolitics board on an imageboard made by a 19 year old man who lives in the Philippines, it might even be more interesting than what we post about here, in a different way. Maybe a poor example but it's something.

Here's how wiki describes it, better than I did
>The phrase was introduced in his most widely known book, Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man, published in 1964.[1] McLuhan proposes that a medium itself, not the content it carries, should be the focus of study. He said that a medium affects the society in which it plays a role not only by the content delivered over the medium, but also by the characteristics of the medium itself.

>McLuhan frequently punned on the word "message", changing it to "mass age", "mess age", and "massage"; a later book, The Medium Is the Massage was originally to be titled The Medium is the Message, but McLuhan preferred the new title, which is said to have been a printing error.


You know how some politicians who are gifted public speakers will smile and nod while saying something really shitty, and people miss what's actually being said and how it will effect them? The medium is the message.

Everyone who is interested in this board would benefit from reading his wiki and following the links to familiarize yourself with his communications theories. There is so much more and it is so prescient.
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 No.2242

I little off topic, but crazies hide their subversive views by expressing them as aethetic theory

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 No.2267

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>>976

>>978

In my opinion to subdivide what you call ideology into three subgroups.

1. Pandering. Give the consumers what they ask for. Oversexualization goes here, as does sustainable design and heroin dealing.

2. Ideology pushing. Unwanted (but not necessarily actively disliked) elements in a product or art piece that promote an ideology.

3. Deceptive pandering. Tricks the consumer into wanting something. This would be the domain of apparently eco-friendly products, of opium laced noodles (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/asia/china-noodles/)

In my experience, subversives attack Pandering, which they want to replace with Ideology Pushing. I guess it depends on what you see as subversive.

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 No.2446

>>978

>Anyway, click the image and tilt the screen back. If you still can't see it let me know and I'll tell you.

What is it?

Not being able to figuring it out made me think of another, maybe related pic.

http://www.panshin.com/critics/Renshaw/rengraph/mysterylarge.jpg

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 No.2448

>>2446

The sticky used to have an image listing some of the boards related to /32/, and on the spaces between the lines and words there where hidden phrases like "QUESTION EVERYTHING", "INFORMATION IS POWER" and "CHOOSE FOR YOURSELF".

The banner that is just a /32/ on a grey background has the question "ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?" on it.

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 No.574 [Open thread]

look
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 No.1028

>>1027
(I'm the same poster)
Well, I just listened to it out of curiosity. It's boring. There's a steady beat drum similar to what you'd have in an action movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS4zYWxzNA

Listen to the drum line once music starts to really kick in. Now imagine it's a few times faster and you've got the drums rythm from the song I am a Robot.

Then you've got a robotic voice saying I am a robot repeatedly. when you reach the 3:00 mark he stops saying "I am a Robot" but the drums continue. This happens for a like 30 seconds and then the robot continues to say "I am a Robot.

Now, throughout thr entire 6 minutes imagine the drum beat and then add in some futuristic sounds(beeping noises, keyboards being touched).

There are a few unsettling notes that are played every once in a while throughout the song. They gave me goosebumps.

At 2:40 there is a voice saying something. I can't quite understand what he's saying. It's the voice of a man as if he was speaking through a radio. This happens a few times, but he always says something different.

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 No.1553

>>1028

>faggot hears old electro song for the first time

>"OH MY GOD 2 SPOOPY CONSPIRACY"

It's the most basic-bitch electro-breaks I've ever heard, and you're talking about it like it's a damn conspiracy.

If you think breaks is anything but cheesy, I'd love to see your reaction to Minimal Techno, Breakcore, or Neurofunk.

Posting to give anon a spoopy attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFWrvSgb5CE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSxhiNpgiuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTPflw2vogM

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 No.1554

AI reached human-parity a while ago

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 No.2420

>>579

I know this was way way back but it has piqued my interests. Does anyone have an archive of the puzzle posts/ thread of people trying to solve it? thanks

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 No.2429

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>>576

I swear I saw a bunch of gibberish like this over on /pol right after the video "with open gates" and before the Paris attacks. After the Paris attacks the junk stopped. I assumed it was some sort of attempt at brute forcing the site for spammers.

>>1554

What source do you have for that other than a guess?

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 No.2415 [Open thread]

So, hypothetically speaking, which books would educate on the subject of manipulation of the people around you with the specific intent of Cult building.

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 No.2426

>>2415

Sorry, I was really interested in cults for a time about a year ago but I have no idea what the books I read were called. Aum Shinrikyo is a good cult to research if you're looking for education on the matter.

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 No.2340 [Open thread]

Not a fan of polandball since I find the humor to be pretty dumb and the fanbase but suffer from doublespeak by being overtly PC about some countries and incredibly racist with others

Anyway, my point is that a friend sent me this today: https://archive.is/ZLJfR

And I couldn't help but think it was the work of some PR agency

Some observations:

>it comes right after movements like pegida are gaining strength (mostly due to the ineptitude of the left-wing rather than their own achievements)

>the quality its far better than the usual polandball comic, looks professional-grade

>the message its almost cliche god vs evil, clearly intended for a more casual audience than the usual polandball public

>it clearly tries to smear certain sectors by equating them to the nazis

>only highlighting the damage russia did, much like cold war propaganda, since russia its "evil" again, or basically no longer aligned with certain interests

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 No.2395

I read the comic before I completely read your entire post. I must say, while reading it, I went back and forth wondering who the "victor" would be.

Germanball speaks in platitudes and cliches like "peace, progress und prosperity" with the EU flag behind it then about "love and compassion." Then the Naziball only spoke in truths, like the faceless immigrants, degeneracy, and the EU draining the money from German coffers. But in the end, I don't know, it sort of reads like some sort of modern novel, a dramatic irony in which the reader knows something that the characters do not. In this case, that the Naziball was right. Especially given Polandball's rather lackluster support at the end, which only reinforces the "you only care about being liked" point. It's almost like a subversion of the cartoon cliche in which the hero only speaks of "love" and wins in the end.

But then, I am unsure how to feel about the comic as a whole, especially given the ending panel. The ending is what makes me wonder the intention of the artist, it ends in a positive note, which, either highlights the delusion or sides with the Germanball's ideals. Regardless, people who just read the surface level will fall into the "Yay Germany defeating the evil Nazis, hooray for multiculturalism," though looking deeper, I wonder if others will pick up on the "Nazis were right" aspect. Either that or the artist genuinely believes what is espoused by the Naziball is evil, similar to the Black Captain America attacking people who defend the border.

I do wonder about the picture hanging on the wall though, I recognize the flag of the German Empire, but I do not know what the scene depicted actually is.

I must say, the quality of the actual comic made me suspicious.

The other comic posted by the user is about how Switzerland is stricter than Germany. Really can't glean anything meaningful from this.

>>2381

>Do you play on it and make similar/succeeding comics that paint your argument in the riPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2397

>>2381

>Or do you present an intellectual analysis of people abusing memes, eventually tracing it back?

This is pointless, time and time again its being demonstrated that people who hold beliefs based on emotions (mostly liberals which not necessarily means the entire left) using facts and evidence only reinforces their beliefs, sometimes to dogmatic levels only comparable with religious nuts.

>Do you play on it and make similar/succeeding comics

I would do that, one of the biggest mistakes GG did was creating those awful collages of data instead of going to the point with simple comics like the antigamers did. The best way to counter this idiocy is by making fun of it, trying to deconstruct it with "boring" facts is what they want you to do

>>2395

>A way to prove everything the Naziball said was true, without directly saying it

You don't need to use naziball, in fact the author used naziball because he knew that it would be easier for germanyball to counter a widely hated symbol than having to argue against other previous versions of germany

For example, what if germanball had to argue with a west-germanyball heavily impoverished and divided by the postwar? or an east-germanyball living in third-world conditions perhaps worse than those of the refugees due to communism? or a weimarball thats struggling to pay the debts from versailles? or to german immigrants who went to usa and other countries and faced discrimination?

Even a germanempireball would have been tough to 'disprove' since while you can hate it now back then it was just one empire of many having to face stiff competition from other players in europe that did even nastier things.

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 No.2412

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>>2395

>I recognize the flag of the German Empire, but I do not know what the scene depicted actually is.

Its a painting of the unification of Germany in 1871, after the end of the Franco-Prussian war.

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>>2397

anti-nazi is pro-democracy/"jew-ocracy". it will never have a shred of the power of truth.

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 No.2416

>>2374

>>2370

my sentiments exactly

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 No.2403 [Open thread]

I've been for long time interested in sexual psychology and sexual fetishes as a weapon against population, especially against white people.

Sexuality in general is being used to promote anti-white values, and lifestyles. Many bad and harmful behaviour is promoted by sexualizig it, and having positive social conitations attached to it.

For example in rap culture and in rap videos black rappers are always surrounded by halfnaked women shaking their ass. Women are sex objects in our psychology what ever feminist wanted it or not. It's not something that can be socially enginere off.

I've wathed internet porn for most of my life. And I can honesty say all my fetished and general sexuality comes from porn. I don't believe that sexuality is biological in a sense like the gay community claims. I've spoken to many gay people and privatly they all agree that they weren't gay first. Of course it's hard to have a honest discussion about this subject, because gay rights movement is more identitarian and thus they refuse to look the issue objectively. I don't say that sexuality is not genetic. On the contrurary I believe sexuality as a mechanism is deeply imbedded into our genes, just like other needs like hunger. We feel hungry when our stomack is empty, which gives our brain the signal to feel hungry. Sexuality works the same way, but I believe that social and sexual association are intertwined, and most of our fetished are memes, that were sexualized into obsessiveness.

I'll write two topics on sexuality which I believe are crucial for us to understand, so we can combat them and build immunity against them.

1) How to combat and/or reverse feminine homosexuality, which in it's opsessive compulsions turns into transexualism. The basic idea by this is to stop porn making weaker and submissive men.

2) How to combat Cuckold fetish, and worshipping of the black sexual masculinity?

I know there are a lot of smart guys here. I hope we can find solutions.

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 No.2404

As an aspiring no-fapper, the way I see it:

1) Stop watching porn

- 1.1: Stop masturbating in general.

When you masturbate, your brain triggers the same memory stations that have been socio-engineered into making you feel all the bad stuff, shame, inferiority, homosexuality, or whatever it is depending on the fetishes you developed. This is how memory works, it always works by association, when you see the coka cola logo, all memory stations relating to that can be triggered, and you may become thirsty. If you masturbate with porn(this effect will be present without porn since the subversion lingers for some time) your conditioning is always triggered, this conditioning includes watching other men fucking women, watching women be degraded by other men, watching images of black men degrading white women, watching dicks, watching homosexuals, watching dominant women degrade men, watching other men fuck would evolutionary wise mean you are the lowest of low, and all of these actions in some way contribute that you are a submissive, conquered, beta male who does not hold dominion over women or other men. This is the psychological aspect of masturbation.

2) Again, stop watching porn and only masturbate about once a week or so, when you refrain from masturbating, your sexual drive starts to build up, presenting itself in assertiveness and masculinity. This is the biological aspect of masturbation. There is a difference too, not masturbating alerts your brain that you are without a mate, this will make you more willing to combat other men, this will make you more willing to go find a girlfriend or talk to the girl at school, this will make you more revolved around gender roles. Masturbating daily to porn only creates a desire for the feeling of sex itself, not the meaning behind it(social/gender).

If you masturbate, you lose this buildup. If you masturbate to porn, you will be also(as described in 1) be subjected to years of subversion and this will trigger multiple psychological issues.

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 No.2405

>This is a quick translation by shitty translation engine.

Psychology of homosexuality

Homosexuality is linked to social situations where a person sees himself to be lower in masculinity. Social submissiveness is a normal social reaction within the group hierarchy, where a group's inner peace and hierachy needs all males to be emasculated to acceptable social standard. Basically the need to operate in a pack forces each male to cooperate and to accept the "otherness" inside the group, in order to keep the peace within the herd. Each member of the flock will needs to socialize if it choose to belong to a group, and thus accept other herd members and take their social status into account when implementing themselves and their needs within the group. Each male needs to cencors his individuality and animalistic urges and emasculate themselves accordingly. We humans are forced to limit our impulsiveness according to social norms, or suffer social stigma and isolation by others. Only by accepting commonly accepted social norms and forms and working within accepted social competition can we get to show to others and to ourselves our own superiority, and to climb the social hierarchy.

Social norms and associations have a strong link to sexuality. Sexuality is strongly associated to personality and therefore to social dynamics. Sexual roles are based on submissive- and oppressive-roles; the piercer and the pierceable, ie the so-called subject and object. Gender roles represent binary repressive and submissive sexual roles. Sexual roles are always social roles, but linked to a strong competitive urge. Man's sexual experience is to dominate, to pierce, while the female is a sexual objective, to surrender to a male.

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 No.2406

Gender roles's further evolution

Gender and sexual identity's modification occurs when a person experiences sexual frustration, that is, the sexual energy of a person can not be discharged inside the individual, a sexual object. Behind the sexual frustration is usually social isolation from the opposite sex, which is due to sexual stagnation. This stagnation leads to depression, and depression via dysphoria, which weakens and emasculates person's identity (self-image). Sexual satisfaction happens when a person is released by someone else of his/her sexual energy. it will never be enough to satisfy oneself, when the social and sexual fixation is to interact sexually with someone else. Although the physical sexual gratification (orgasm) can happen through masturbation, it's not enough, because it lacks the social interaction. The discharge of the sexual energy/pressure will not happen fully if sex is not experienced.

When sexual pressure is increasing (not able to experience sex), it means an individual's gender role, and therefore also individual's identity is getting weaker. Person is projecting, and trying to compare where he fits in the social and sexual market. When sexual pressure increases it means uncertainty is increasing of their own sexuality. When sexual pressure is increasing, it means that there is uncertainty of a persons own masculinity, or in the case of women thier femininity. In men this means emasculation, where your selfimage and your masculinity is degrading. While in women the degrading sexual identity manifest itself into weaker appearance and behavioral selfimage, and her questioning her own sexual market value.

In men emasculation, ie feminization creates uncertainty about their own sexuality, which in turn makes their sexual energy go in a direction that gives the least resistance. If the social environment does not change in relation to sexuality, sexuality will change instead. So if the social enviroment doesn't give away and satisfy sexual needs of an individual, the sexual energy goes where it can release itself, and which is the weakest link. Sexual pressure starts to modify the individual's own identity, and sexual role so person would fit in sexually.

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 No.2407

>>2404

This was not the answer I was looking for.

I'm looking for away to modify sexuality, which would give us away to fight back in terms of porn, and way people view sexuality. I'm trying to create white sexual fetishation. That white women and white men would find each other sexually appealing.

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 No.2411

>>2407

You misunderstand "fetishization".

A fetish means something unnatural, non biologically compatible.

A white person driven to another white person is perfectly natural and nothing like a fetish.

I don't see what your point is, to light the spark between white men and women again?

Well, both are pretty shit today, I think we'd have to do a lot of clean up in our culture and diet for that.

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 No.988 [Open thread]

Let's start the first /32/ book club meeting.

This week the topic is "Fourth Generation Warfare". The assigned texts were "The Changing Face of War - Into the Fourth Generation" & "Fourth Generation Warfare and the Moral Imperative". Did you get a chance to read them?

Did you seek any other texts on the subject?
I also read "Evolution of War - The Fourth Generation" and "Fourth Generation Warfare and Other Myths".

What did you think of the texts themselves?

What did you think of the topic?

Do you think you can give a good definition of 4th Gen Warfare?
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 No.1009

>>999
The whole idea of 4GW is attractive because of how vague it is. Almost any element of modern warfare can be made to fit into its definition, and that's not because of the astounding accuracy of the writers on the subject. The division of war into generations implies sudden shifts in global strategic thinking, or at least clearly differentiated periods in the development of warfare. Instead, we find that it has been evolving in a non-linear manner, and that the use of terrorism, maneuver warfare and psychological attacks to the enemy's will have been around for hundreds of years. The blurring of the line between generals, politicians and cultural leaders exists since the times of the high priests and emperors. The attacks on civilians were common currency during the middle ages, weren't they?

That is not to say that the theory is completely without its merits. The influence that globalization (both commercial and cultural) has had and will have on the way we wage war is undeniable, and the media that is available to us currently is a propaganda tool the likes of which the generals of old could not dream of. The emerging significance of transnational groups also must be acknowledged. What I am contesting is the idea that these trends consist of a whole new generation, instead of a mere organic branching on the evolutionary tree of war.

In regards to the learning cycle of organizations and of the military specifically, I recommend you read "Learning to Eat Soup With a Knife" by Nagl.

Personally, I find insurgencies and guerrillas to be a fascinating topic, and recommend any of the classic works from Mao, Guevara, Taber and Sun Tzu.
It is a common misunderstanding that guerrilla warfare is characterized by small units and hit-and-run tactics. In fact, the guerrilla is much more a political agent than a warrior. Highly efficient in his use of force, he achieves maximum political impact with minimal violence. To them mere existence is an act of defiance against the greater power and therefore a victory in itself, while for the state every battle fought - even if a victory - is a small defeat.

I would like to know more about how economic and cultural strikes are planned and carried out.
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 No.2386

Though texts provided some useful information of the historical change of war and interesting observation, we've hit a point where 4GW has well and truly been birthed- We saw the first victims in the Arab Spring, and subsequently, Egypt, Ukraine and Syria. We saw the first Parallel use of military force and technocratic warfare in Ukraine, however much of the (sparse) technocratic warfare the US employed within Ukraine was unnecessary. The U.N/U.S already had a large cultural foot in Ukraine via the Left and managed to secure the majority of Ukraine's political spectrum. Russia had equal support in ethnic communities, that were consequently put under enormous pressure by UN based Ukrainian forces.

We saw the second instance of that same parallel warfare in syria, with large differences, namely the U.S. using a proxy (ISIS and the succeeding organizations armed by the US/UN) as the bulk of their troops, in an attritionative fashion. The technocratic warfare employed in Syria followed that same fashion.

What's interesting is that the observation Echevarria made that the people currently propelling 4GW are using an "unperfected art", so to speak, and consistently leaving holes within their strategy. The more intelligent or well educated a target culture is, the harder they are to subvert through tech. warfare. However, that's just one of many flaws.

>>1009

Sadly i can't recommend any books by knowledge, though there is always knowledge and learning to be found by tracing actions whose means serve the globalists.

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 No.2399

>>1009

>the guerrilla is much more a political agent than a warrior. Highly efficient in his use of force, he achieves maximum political impact with minimal violence

>minimal violence

You couldn't be more wrong anon

Countries like germany which faced full bombardment during WWII were running again merely 10 years later

Other countries like colombia which looked promising in the early 20 century have been bleeded dry by guerrilla movements.

Its the frog in warming water effect: it starts slow with small attacks to police and military outposts, and before you know it the middle class (where most engineers, entrepreneurs and scientists come from) is leaving the country because of the violence while the upper classes become an enclave guarded by paramilitary death squads which only adds fuel to the violence and creates more recruits for the guerrilla among the poorer parts of the population that got caught in the crossfire because they can't afford to leave the country.

Countries where the guerrillas won, from vietnam to angola to nicaragua are complete shitholes. After the guerrilla destroyed the government their inherited a country thats was broken and bankrupt as the result of their actions, and because of the way guerrillas work internal power struggles develop within them so a lot of them either become a new regime thats far worse than anything the country had before or a new civil war erupts between the now divided guerrillas

China is one particularly bad case since the whole cultural revolution which killed millions was nothing more than an internal power struggle caused by mao's many fuckups during the great leap forward which also killed millions

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 No.2400

>>2399

Anon, while what you say has merit, I believe there has been a misunderstanding. Before we go any further, I should clarify the definition of guerrilla I subscribe to, so as to ensure we are indeed talking about the same thing. Guerrilla warfare is that which is waged by a group that has access to less physical resources than its opponent, resorting mainly to tactics that involve high mobility and indirect confrontation (such as ambushes, sabotage, hit-and-run tactics and strategic assassinations), and who makes use of political tactics to win the favor of the civilian population and use them as a support structure.

The state of the countries you mentioned has, in my opinion, less to do with the use of guerrilla tactics than with the revolutionary nature of the conflicts. It is not only understandable but expected that the conflicts you mentioned have resorted in significantly different political and social scenarios than before them, as that was the goal of the fighters. What I mean is: the cases of China, Vietnam, Nicaragua and so on resulted in significant political changes not because of the use of guerrilla tactics, but because this was the goal of the people who resorted to the guerrilla tactics. Look at the case of resistance movements in WWII. They were formed not by individuals who hoped to enact significant change, but individuals who wanted to prevent change (I am referring, of course, to the Nazi occupation of these countries), and to do so resorted to guerrilla tactics. These countries are examples of places where the guerrillas have won (in conjunction with conventional military forces), and which are not, as you put it, "shitholes". We can also look at the mujahideen, who used this kind of warfare to expel the smore powerful soviets from their country. Their goal was to cease international intervention in domestic policy, and their goal was achieved. True, the result was a country that arguably regressed economically and culturally, but to a previous point at which the fighters were aiming. The clearest example is probably the American Revolutionary war. There we see the use of guerrilla tactics combined with conventional conflicts resulting in the victory of the side supported by the guerrillas. Individuals involved in the fighting were lPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2402

>>2400

>Look at the case of resistance movements in WWII

Your original example literally mentioned and I quote

>Mao, Guevara, Taber and Sun Tzu

You don't get to change it half-way because I just demonstrated how those cases resulted in a disaster far worse than any regime those countries these people were involved in had before.

Also WWII its a lousy example since those resistance movements were heavily supported by the allies while facing a widely hated invader in their own territory which had its own resourced stretched to the breaking point (nazi germany).

Guerrilla might have less force but the consequences of their actions tend to have a much higher human cost than the use of modern weapons. Put simply guerrillas are not above attacking civilians and most of the time they don't even have an actual target and just bomb a place which is why most guerrillas are actually considered terrorists unless the political climate demands they be called a more PR-term like "freedom fighters"

>the only way to do so is by treating the non-combatants as the enemy. This generates popular discontent, which fuels the guerrillas

Its actually the other way around as I mentioned, guerrillas actually use this strategy to create a spiral of violence. Because the regime can't use guerrilla tactics as well they become unable to operate against them so eventually the guerrilla becomes the new regime which is worse than the old one and suppresses any stories about its own wrong doings, which is basically what happened in china, cuba and many others

Guerrillas are far more likely to become extremists, fascists and overall totalitarian regimes because they have a very black&white view of the world else they would be unable to carry most of the operations they do. At the same time and unlike the regimes they fight they feel no obligation toPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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