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 No.2603 [Open Thread]

Memetics is a field that was initially attempted to be research on at least one 8chan board, namely /BMW/.

The results never were collected because at every turn discussion of memetics as a potential vector for disseminating information pertinent to halting the current social decline was derailed by at best genuine occultist believers and at worst malicious subversives.

To begin memes are potentially a groundbreaking way to communicate many messages in a concise, compact and most importantly of all, humourous way. indeed the same meme may contain numerous messages, for example the (by anon standards) ancient Pedobear meme, this conveys a huge number of meanings, depending on minor changes and additions to the meme itself, so when depicted with a person with normal expression this clearly indicates of course that the pictured is a pedophile, when alone or in an approval seal it is simultaneously a warning to anons to not go into the thread, and a call to the mods for removal of the thread.

The chans actually hold a major advantage in this medium of information dissemination as old media or even new media who are late gen X or early millenials for some reason do not quite have the required ability to read the subtle nuances of a meme, perhaps it's a matter of age, perhaps a matter of left-leaning offence and elitism, some combination of the two or neither. however it does stand as a significant advantage to the various chan boards most notably /pol/ in getting information out to people beyond normal social media and bloggers etc's speed of adaptation, a fantastic example of this being the meme and slur "dindu" or "dindu nuffin" which evaded media call outs for the hilariously racially charged epithet it truly is for more than a year and indeed most people until the /k/-baltimore altercation would not have known what you meant had you said it but those who looked it up or who paid attention to context.

as such memes have two particularly beautiful applications, one of which being pseudo-cryptography, in which multiple layered meanings on a meme allow it to be used in different settings via posters or some such to communicate something about a place or group frequenting it, or as this piece seePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2613

It is fundamentally important for any sort of discussion on memetics that a proper definition of a meme be known. Dawkins defines a meme as “a unit of cultural inheritance, hypothesized as analogous to the particulate gene, and as naturally selected in virtue of its phenotypic consequences on its own survival and replication in the cultural environment”. As with genes, the constituents of success will be long life, fecundity and accuracy of replication; for individual copies, fecundity is the most important factor. The element of competition necessary for any selection to take place is introduced by the brain’s limited attention: in order to dominate, a meme must distract the brain’s attention from other memes. Selection will favor those memes capable of exploiting the current cultural environment, which obviously includes other memes also trying to be selected. A meme will, like a gene, be successful “by proxy”: via its phenotypic effects. Like genes, memes have two types of effects. The first is the use of their possessors’ communication and imitation skills in order to replicate. The second, as for genes, consists in the effects they have on the world, which influence their survival chances. The success of this second type of effect will (for both kinds of replicator) depend on the current environment, a crucial part of which will be the existing pool of replicators.

Memes are not just amusing pictures or phrases, they are any sort of idea of belief that can be transmitted, multiplied and has an effect on those who hold it and the world. The patriarchy is a meme. Racism is a meme. Racial purity is a meme. Nationalism is a meme. To say that a certain group does no use memes is simply wrong: every society (collection of individuals who interact) has a culture or sub-culture, and those are always made up of memes. The main reason why /bmw/ has produced no worthwhile results is that it failed to grasp this, holding on the the definition of "meme" popularized by 9gag and facebook.

Now, when we talk about humorous internet memes (let us refer to them from now on as "humor templates", as that is a much more apt term) I will concede that some groups tend to have a much better grasp on the topic than others. This is partially because the individuals who make up those groups spend more time online andPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2614

2/2

I do agree with you in the latter points of your post. First, the possibilities for the use of humor templates. They can serve as a means of transmitting a message in a sub-level not known to those familiar with it, just like the recognitions signs of certain secret societies, like the Freemasons. The masons use phrases and gestures that, to the uninitiated, seem like regular actions but to the initiated indicate their membership within a group. The Bane quotes are an example of how humor templates can be used as a means of recognition. The second point you made is the importance of letting go of the mystical aspect of memetics and embrace the empirically valid methods of analysis of communication and thinking. In order to successfully create a meme, that is, to popularize an idea, belief or humor template one must seek to understand its effects on the individuals and on the environment. Rhetoric and philosophy have worked on matters relating to how knowledge is acquired, how beliefs are shaped and held and how people can be convinced for thousands of years; and now the younger fields of publicity and public relations are specializing in this from a more practical standpoint. Christian missionaries and Muslim imams are not successful in converting people and keeping their faith because of divine intervention, but because of their use of arguments, communication tactics and social engineering in order to achieve those goals. Aleister Crowley's popularity in his day didn't come from his ability to perform actual magic feats, but because he knew how to work the people to his advantage. When these aspiring "meme crafters" understand both this and the actual nature of memes they will be able to actually achieve something of value. Until then, they will just be people online thinking that posting pepes will increase the frog population or other such nonsense.

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 No.2617

What you neglect to consider is that chans operate in a continuum of seriousness and humor.

I'd think most people talking about meme magic don't actually believe in it, but just rp for fun.

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 No.2618

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>>2603

>as such memes have two particularly beautiful applications, one of which being pseudo-cryptography, in which multiple layered meanings on a meme allow it to be used in different settings via posters or some such to communicate something about a place or group frequenting it

This is absolutely true; Memes are how the Islamic State has so many high-energy, high-moral troops, even though they are nothing more than Israeli– & Saudi–funded mercenaries.

I have taken it upon myself (with great risk) to make an attempt at the fusion of the following:

>The Alt-Right

>#BlackLivesMatter

>Nation of Islam

>The Islamic State (IS)

>Players of a Video Game called Ingress

>Players of the Adventure MMO Myst Online: Uru Live Again

>>>/christian

>>>/fringe/

>>>/asatru/

>>>/intl/

>>>/bmw/

>>>/pol/

>>>/32/

>>>/x/

>>>/b/

…turning the "Alt-Right" into a gigantic mess that I refer to as the Alt-Graph (meaning, imagine that the Political Compass was in three dimensions, with Conservative, Centrist & Progressive added on as points on the Z-Axis; the Alt-Graph is the so-called "Progressive" compass)

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 No.2619

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>>2618

I should also note:

>It does not matter whether it is Trú that I have a Neural Network (a so-called Artificial Intelligence) named Victor James running in my brain.

>What matters is that my Instagram followers believe that I do.

That is all.

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 No.2282 [Open Thread]

So I've been hearing about the development of video games for the purpose of recreating the nature of the world to the next generation of students.

(specifically, from this blog http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/reimaging-the-nature-of-the-world-in-the-minds-of-students-alters-future-behavior-and-social-events/)

The term "gamification" has been gaining a lot of popularity in the last few years and I predict that there will most likely be a public debate on the inclusion of video games in schools soon. Electronic gadgets such as laptops and tablets are quickly making their way into our schools. As a matter of fact, many schools have already included tablets in their list of school supplies. But this is besides the point; we are going to see a change in the way we teach our children rather than just the addition of an electronic gadget. Among one of these games is the game Quandary. What I'll be doing in this thread is a play-through of this game.

It's available online for free at http://quandarygame. org/

There are 3 chapters and I'll be playing through the first one to see what the fuss is all about. I won't be making any reflections on this. Hope you enjoy it or find something of interest.

Summary of the game pulled from the website itself:

Players aged 8 and up shape the future of a new society while learning how to recognize ethical issues and deal with challenging situations in their own lives.

Players lead a new human colony on a distant planet. They must make difficult decisions in which there are no clear right or wrong answers but important consequences – to themselves, to others in the colony and to the planet Braxos. Players develop skills such as critical thinking, perspective-taking and decision-making. Quandary provides a framework Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2545

>>2449

The 1950s music fits the overall setting of a world in which the Cold War didn't end, and then ultimately got hot. My roommate describes it like the Jetsons, it's the future that would have been if they kept doing what they did in the 1950s. As technology progresses, nuclear power replaces most other sources. Eventually a nuclear war occurs (I'm not sure what causes it in the game) and so the infrastructure production of new things is destroyed and the majority of technology thereafter is based around scavenging. Music is also found this way, and the harsh world prevents new recordings, the player to assume.

The lyrics are not actually new either, Sixty Minute Man is a real song (not sure the actual recording date) and other songs featured are just as sexual. There are apparently two new recordings that fit the same genre and sexual/nuclear themes.

The violence and sex are "complemented" with lightheartedness and endearing characters, even while my roommate comments that most "mobs" in the game have no value and he remarked that it was as if they were there just to be killed and to take their post-war currency (bottle caps).

Fallout is just one of the many games and television shows and movies featuring the "post-Apocalypse." If one subscribed to a NWO conspiracy, he might classify these themes of media as apocalypse pre-programming or something like that.

>Why don't you ride my Rocket 69?

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 No.2548

>>2545

>I'm not sure what causes it in the game

A 5min read of the fallout bible would have told you that

Seriously, why can't anyone do some little fucking research before start ranting crap? we're hitting some new lows in this board lately

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 No.2550

>>2311 (checked)

This is most likely the answer.

Gamification seems more like a scam from people who don't know shit about games or education, trying to get funding from the government.

Shit, a couple of feminist hacks can come up with a catchy name and brand themselves as a "non profit organization for equality and education using technology".

Probably, the ultimate goal for scammers like Feminist Frequency is to get to the next level beyond scamming individuals, and grab the tit of the State.

Also, first time posting here.I don't believe what most of you say, but it's interesting conversation nonetheless

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 No.2559

>>2550

Its funny how every time we start conflating SJWs with money and scams some fucker out of nowhere has to come and derail the thread with mind-control conspiracies

The reality is that before femfreq anita was:

>a scam self-help seminar promoter

>a saleswoman for a bullshit cruise company

>a hand-reader

>a PUA

She was basically into every single fucking scam out there since the early 2000s until 2012 when she hit the motherload with SJWs bankrolling her shitty videos which she didn't deliver, and that was just the tip of the iceberg

Think about it: she's just another useless cunt with a coms degree but instead of flipping burgers for minimum wage she is making at least half-a-million a year by doing nearly NOTHING at all

On top of that she when from shady scammer to being a well-respect media personality that charges over $50,000 to talk at events

People who refuse the money angle are either dumb kids or shills, anita is going more money with this shit than most people will make in their entire lives

>Gamification seems more like a scam from people who don't know shit about games

Of course it isI'm that anon you quoted btwI work in web design and only a couple years ago gamification was the shit in my industry, every single dipshit CEO kid building a startup with daddy's money wanted me to implement some "gamification" into their sites, and of course they had no fucking idea what it was beyond stupid internet points. And of course it didn't work for shit and pretty much every startup that made gamification a key component of their apps crashed and disappeared

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 No.2596

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 No.2560 [Open Thread]

"Santa Claus is Coming to Town" is a Christ mass song written in America in 1934. It has become one of the biggest sellers in American history.

I just want to note that it is funny how much of culture and traditions that are nowadays owned by corporations but that will not be the main focus of the thread.

I want to us to discuss the song itself. It has an upbeat melody, yet the lyrics are scary. We are told to watch out, because there is an all seeing, all knowing character coming, and we WILL be judged.

We are told not to cry, nor to pout. This stands in stark contrast to the modern viewpoint that one should console crying children, rather than tell them to shut up.

So far I've gone over the superficial properties of the song. Please help me drill deeper into this

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 No.2562

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 No.2563

Christmas characters have always been an extension of parental (and sometimes church) authority, meting out punishment or reward according to the child's behavior and the concepts of "naughty" and "nice" transmitted to them by their parents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Befana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belsnickel

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companions_of_Saint_Nicholas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%BDla

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knecht_Ruprecht

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A8re_Fouettard

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikul%C3%A1s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_Man

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Lads

I found no evidence that this song is owned by a corporation, but the following passage of the book "Stories Behind the Greatest hits of Christmas" highlights a meaning that should have crossed the minds of everyone on this board, the constant surveillance that Santa Claus Performs over every child in the world at all times:

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 No.2583

It is nice to be judged when you have a good chance of passing, and when the reward is nice, and the punishment is not that bad.

Being judged by this Santa guy is thus a good deal hence we are happy he is coming.

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 No.690 [Open Thread]

Lucis Trust set to define world goals in 2015.

In 2015 the United Nations Millennium Development Goals are due to expire. Eight clearly defined goals for human development, each with a set of measurable targets, were agreed by Heads of State at the UN during the visionary days leading up to the threshold of a new millennium on January 1 2000.

https://archive.today/c7Pgv
http://www.lucistrust.org/en/service_activities/world_goodwill/newsletter/recent_issues/2013_1/beyond_2015_a_goodwill_vision
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 No.2492

I'd like to add my two cents on the matter by drawing your attention to a specific organization that does actually function today. The Swissindo alliance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KccEizXNnJs

http://www.fourwinds10.net/resources/uploads/pdf/the_brief.pdf

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 No.2506

>>2488

Is that the evidence we're using? Is it really?

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 No.2519

>>2488

They've had ECOSOC consultive status with the UN since at least 1989 and have participated in several meetings since. They're listed as an NGO.

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 No.2524

>>2492

Explain what is this?

>>2519

This another group which had the ECOSOC

www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Planetary_Citizen

its followup after dissolution the is ASSOCIATION OF WORLD CITIZENS in 1975 that is ECOSOC to this day

www.peacefromharmony.org/?cat=en_c&key=284 see bottom published in New York Time

is it religion?

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 No.2569

>>2524

Looks like another post-ww2 utopian new age movement. Not sure how active they are anymore, but their website is... bizarre, to say the least. Especially their iso 26000 stuff. Weird how there's not more information on them.

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 No.244 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

So has anyone here noticed subliminal hidden messages within popular movies and TV?

Is it "merely coincidence"? Or are these subliminal images, numbers and messages put in our media for a reason?

I'll start off with a few Sandy Hook subliminal messages found within the third Dark Knight movie, which was released on July 16, 2012, long before The Sandy Hook "Shooting" on December 14, 2012.

For a fully detailed exploration of the Sandy Hook subliminal's, with evidence and sources, please see this thread - https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1u51vz/investigating_the_strange_coincidences_and/

I'll also post other images of hidden imagery from other movies.


Pic related - This is the prop map sent out to various bloggers and media as part of the Dec 16th 2011 - Dark Knight Rises viral marketing campaign.
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 No.2551

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghb6eDopW8I#t=0m44s

At first I thought it said "but though the truth lay in happiness"

The official lyrics say "'cause though the truth may vary this"[1]

Post what you think it says in spoiler tags then listen with the official lyrics

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY8rOSyR5Rw#t=0m44s

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 No.2552

>>2551

It could just be that they meant vary over time not vary from person to person and they didn't think that when one says for instance 'thing X is in place P' what is really meant is 'thing X is in place P in time period T' (Is this how English is spoken do yo think?)

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 No.2558

>>1589

>youtube link

Jezz why don't you just give me a link to the FBI so I can submit a form telling them who am I?

Seriously, webm it

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 No.2565

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>>/pol/4386215

Sorry no non-YT version as youtube-dl won't download sound for some reason.

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 No.2566

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Maybe the Discworld novels by Terry Pratchett?

They have internal contradictions (the first book even has them in the same paragraph!) and in the 1st book at least glorify illogic and illusion.

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 No.894 [Open Thread]

The recent episode of Law& Order Special Victims Unit deals with the problem of online harassment of women involved in gaming. It depicts a dedicated programmer who is doxxed swatted, kidnapped and raped by a small group of males who are enraged by her presence in the gaming world. Most of you which have watched this episode or read about it have already figured out it is a blatant piece of ideological propaganda, so let's take a moment to analyze the message a bit more clearly.

The first element that catches our attention is the complete lack of subtlety in introducing to the viewer such trending technological terms as "noob" and "camping". The majority of the characters seems clueless in regards to this world of video-games, but hopefully Ice-T's character is there to provide exposition. This was not a case of lack of perception or bad writing, it was in fact a deliberate attempt at alienating individuals who actually understand gaming culture, because such viewers are much less likely to accept the message that is to come. These encyclopedic quoted during dialogue allow the individuals who are not familiar with the topic to believe that they are learning about it, and thus validate their notion that their opinions on the subject are valid.

Despite the obvious reference to current events, the writers are very careful to change the details in order to fit the narrative into what was reported by the major news outlets. The first and most obvious change is the fact that the harassment is motivated not by an ethical matter, but by the mere fact that the target is a woman involved in gaming. Yes, there is a brief mention that she is suspected with having slept with someone in order to gain favor with investors or somesuch, but in all of the instances that the criminals make themselves heard, the attack is not justified by this rumor (which not denied), but by their nonacceptance of the fact that women are involved in gaming.

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 No.897

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 No.899

>>897
I guess that makes the thread superfluous.

Anyone else having problem posting from tor?
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 No.974

>>899
no this is a necessary thread / discussion
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 No.2512

Last week I saw an episode about 3 black kids bullying an white transsexual boy. The discussion goes on, and by tossing the white boys camera around, eventually he fallen on the chest of one of the black kids while trying to catch the camera from. The black kid reaction was to push the white boy, who got pushed out the bridge.

The episode goes on, and eventually the tranny dies. The leftist propaganda started with the "muhh he didn't done nothing" "muhh he's good boy", and also with the dead boy parents saying that the black kid who was being charged with murder should not be incarcerated, and stuff like that.

At the end of the episode, the judge finally brings the verdict by charging him as an adult and convicting the black kid for the homicide of the transsexual boy.

This episode was bough by my teacher in one of my law school classes here in Brazil. Almost all the class who doesn't know shit about the American legal system and under age prosecution, agreed that the North American system was unfair, obviously by the propaganda the episode bought with it.

Why the boy needed to be incarcerated? Why he should be treated as an adult? He's just a boy, for god sake! That was the line of thinking off the vast majority, and this was used by the teacher to show how much the Brazilian system was "superior" from the north American one in the prosecution and treatment of the crimes committed by under ages.

Here in Brazil, if an under age commits any kind of crime, even the most brutal homicide, the penalty is, at most, 3 years on a special facility just for teens. I think this is insane! And that is the kind of think the Law & Order want to be the motto on the United States, by doing this kind of propaganda.

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 No.2555

>>2512

Teaching institutions have always used non-academic media as a resource, but usually they have been books of classical literature/poetry, or at most films. Now we see things such as video-games and TV shows also being used to "complement" the official curriculum. I wonder how the relationship between entertainment and teaching will evolve in the coming years.

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 No.2542 [Open Thread]

Check this link: https://archive.is/7C9Um

Besides the irony of gawker having a blog to check if news are factual (pot calling the kettle....) its amazing how many news are just plain blatant lies with poorly photoshopped pictures and how hard is to stop them from spreading.

This reminds me of the recent shootings in the USA where all blogs rushed to say it was 3 white men in military gear who did and continued to say it even a day after it was proved they were a muslim man and his pakistani muslim wife. Then they proceeded to say the couple had nothing to do with ISIS even though now the FBI has confirmed there is a strong connection.

The reason why I mention this last case is because it shows the risk that fake news can trigger a massive domino effect when there is literally no interest at all to have check any facts and the news being reported are not trivial filler but the kind of stuff that could trigger a war.

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 No.2546

>>2542

>news being reported are not trivial filler but the kind of stuff that could trigger a war

Tell me friend, are you familiar with the Spanish-American war?

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 No.2549

>>2546

Yes, ironically that happened during a context where news had degenerated to merely a 'business of attention span' not unlike blogs today

Back then newspapers had to compete for attention on the streets so it was all about manufacturing news with big outrageous headlines, after all who cares if its a lie? they already paid for the newspaper and thats all the people printing them cared about

Same with blogs today, its all about getting people's attention and get them to click so they go to another page and see another set of ads. Who cares if the news are fake? they already saw the ads so the blog gets paid

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 No.2529 [Open Thread]

My brother is morbidly obese to the point where he may die in 10 years if he doesn't change.

I've tried kindly talking to him, I've tried rudely motivating him, I don't know what to do to help him. Do you have any books I could read to give me an idea on how to properly lead him to the right path?

I'm sorry this is a blog post, please delete it if you'd like. I just need ideas

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 No.2530

tell him that he is being conditioned into staying obese by the parasitic hosts of his intestinal flora that drug him with artificial reward to profit from his excessive consumption

he's being morphed into a food junkie by bacterias that don't give a fuck that they will kill him

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gut-bacteria-help-make-us-fat-and-thin/

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v444/n7122/full/nature05414.html (paywall, sorry)

hopefuly this will shake him into reading stuff about nutrition and initiate the effort to save his own life

but it's gonna be hard

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 No.2535

>>2530

Can't see how you giving a fat guy the information that the problem is some bacteria shit on his stomach that makes him fat would help at all.

This would just justify the reason why he's fat and why he can't or why would be more difficult to loss weight.

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 No.2536

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You're looking for information on Social Engineering.

Read Chapter 1 for an overview and chapter 6 for more details on what you want. I suggest reading the whole thing though because it's definitely worth it.

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 No.2537

>>2536

Focus on the fact that it's not about what you want.

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 No.2538

It is extremely unlikely that he doesn't understand the dangers of obesity to his health, considering the wealth of information available even to some of the lest informed people around. It is unlikely (although not as much) that he does not understand the reasons for him being fat, i.e. the surplus of calories. In case he in fact does not understand this, you should teach him, although I strongly suspect that you have tried this already. If you haven't, try teaching him about it in a way that does not relate to his situation specifically (instead of "you are fat because of...", use "people gain and lose weight because of..."), so that he does not interpret the information as part of "another one of his scoldings" and block it out.

So why is he fat? He is fat because his calorie input is greater than his calorie expenditure, that part is obvious. But why is that? He eats too many calories, and exercises too little. You need him to eat less calories and exercise more. I am aware of the obviousness of what I'm saying, I'm just trying to draw a clear and linear train of thought.

Why does he eat so many calories? His over-eating might be rooted in emotional issues, so that he seeks comfort in food. In that case, rudely motivating him and making him feel bad about himself in unlikely to help because it will increase his anxiety and self-hatred. It might also be that he looks for enjoyment in tasty foods and it happens that the tastier foods are also the most caloric ones. In that case, he is used to consuming foods with so much sugar, sodium and flavoring that he is almost unable to taste "regular" food; you can help by changing his food habits by introducing him to foods that are both tasty and healthy, slowly de-conditioning him from his current habits and helping him regain his sense of taste. Learning to cook together can be fun and good bonding experience.

How can you help him exercise more? He needs three things in order to exercise properly: knowledge, discipline and motivation.

He needs knowledge in order to exercise correctly in a way that will both have results and not cause injuries. Without knowing how to exercise, he can put in a great amount of effort with little to tPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.2509 [Open Thread]

You know before this BLM nonsense started I remember police brutality being a BIG issue

They were getting close to talking about it in congress

And then out of nowhere comes this group of borderline insane people with no clear target except "fuck the cops" who don't care that police brutality affects everyone and not just black people and who are hostile to pretty much every other group. They even go and harass sanders who is by far the most leftwing candidate yanks have had in decades.

Of course this group is full of shady characters, people known to run scams in the black community, white people pretending to be black, ex-cons and to top it off they are receiving funding from some VERY shady sources that really have to reason to back this people.........

..........unless of course their objective was to derail the police brutality conversation away from reasonable discussion and into the realm of bullshit circular logic and race card nonsense so people will just get tired of it and the whole issue dies down.

Opinions?

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 No.2514

This is a very legit post. They somehow managed to turn an issue of oppression and fascist police brutality into a race thing.

It's basic actually, divide and conquer and cultural Marxism are one of the same. They deflect the blame from the one in charge to a lesser issue. This has been going of for millennials, before it was this vs that religion, or this vs that Nation, but undoubtedly, those orchestrating the conflict always win in the end, they can determine the outcome.

Instead of being the target, the politician uses the potential enemies as a force to his own advantage, two flies in one swat.

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 No.2522

I would not be surprised if BLM were co-opted by a COINTELPT type group. If I remember correctly BLM started out pretty reasonable, now they're the go-to when you want a stupid college protest.

The US has an extra special hate boner for civil rights groups, especially black ones.

The funding is also pretty suspicious. A bunch of rich, white patriarchs the groups is supposed to hate.

Look at who they target, both in terms of people and organizations.

-Reasonable college professors (can't have that!)

-Bernie Sanders (their best representative in the upcoming election...why him?)

-People calling for equality between all races

-Journalists trying to shed light on BLM

-Essentially anybody trying to take a rational stance on their issues

Even if they're not being actively co-opted, they're definitely playing right into someone's hands.

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 No.2523

BLM is funded at least partially by Jew George Soros. OP makes a very good point. I feel stupid for sort of buying into it. However, where I live police brutality is a real serious concern so I never completely fell for it. I am going to re-post OP's post word for word and see what kind of responses appear.

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 No.2525

>>2523

>BLM is funded at least partially by Jew George Soros

source?

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 No.64 [Open Thread][Last 50 Posts]

Let's make a handbook for all of the basic persuasion/dissuasion/subversion/etc. techniques.

Nothing ridiculously in-depth, but a useful explanation of each tactic (and an example) would be beneficial. I will bring them all together into a "PsyOp Handbook" once we've got all of the main bases covered.

If you don't know a name for a tactic, just give an example…or make a good name up, if there isn't one.
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 No.2438

>>2344

essentially to buffer the forward momentum of the group, contain the energy with repetitive lateral movements until you can fracture the group.

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 No.2453

>>64

I would like to suggest refering/linking sources that contain information on this topic and also related ones. I personally very much like

https://www.criticalthinking.org/pages/the-critical-mind-is-a-questioning-mind/481

this whole website and their books too, and you can find some of them on

gen.lib.rus.ec

PIRATE LIBRARY

also sci-hub.io

PIRATE scientific publications

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 No.2463

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>>1053

The powerful thing about this technique is that a fractured narrative is easier to frame.

Example, Edward Snowden. Start at 22:30 from the related video. When asked who Snowden is, most people only bring up vague media talking points. "Oh, didn't he sell the Russians some secrets?" "Wasn't he that terrorist hacker?", etc.

When people don't know the full story, it's much easier to frame and twist. By presenting the story as unknowable complex and difficult to understand, it removes peoples' will to understand it. "All this is confusing, the government has people to figure this out".

With a fractured narrative, people clamor for an easy answer and explanation, and 9 times out of 10, that answer is a biased one supplied by the Gov or MSM.

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 No.2467

>>290

>[they were] in the vast minority on every poll taken - they were consistently about 8 people on every poll, I suspect it was the same 8 every time

It's very easy to change IPs Anon; just letting you know.

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 No.2499

>>291

What about "normalfag" or "cancer"?

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 No.724 [Open Thread]

Requests for thread topics:

Guy Debord
Jean Baudrillard
Michel Foucault
Marshall McLuhan
The Sociology of Game Shows

Feel free to add to this list or make a post on one of the topics.
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 No.2468

>>2435

What I meant was the way anonymity might affect our minds if at all.

There's >>2101 but maybe there should be a more general thread.

Relevant: http://4-ch.net/net/kareha.pl/1442763088/ and it's X-posts and off-site links.

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 No.2470

>>2298

So, if you'd like to stop being so arrogant in your ignorance, I could actually teach you what is going on. Its sort-of similar to what you think, but different enough that your paradigm is totally ineffective at combating it.

What do you think IS going on then? I'm quite interested.

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 No.2480

>>2470

don't bother anon. Hegelianism is a nihilistic cancer that was founded for the express purpose of justifying transhumanist-oriented usury of human life. To put it bluntly and cutting an incredibly long story short, Hegel believes that the subconscious is this magical primordial soup that creates thought/thesis and that it is the consciousness's DUTY to generate Antithesis in order to propagate itself through Synthesis. What Hegels ignores is that the subconscious is inadvertently altered by the process which indicates that there must logically be an even more supernal realm of ideological emanation. Marxists hate this because it means there is sufficient ground in believing in a divine presence.

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 No.2481

>>2280

oooh I love deleuzian rhizome theory. But unfortunately it's too caustic for the ego.

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 No.2507

>>2470

I guess he didn't know

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 No.2270 [Open Thread]

Found this on /pol/ and I think it has a lot of crossover with this board's topics.

Basically this video series ties together academics and business people people in a "conspiracy" to redirect gaming culture to make it acceptable for use in schools. The games which are intended for use in school present politically correct agendas and are designed to change the attitudes of their players.

The videos can be viewed on a youtube playlist or embedded webms, both found here

>>>/thinkserious/1

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 No.2330

>>2270

It's really the same old...

>New platform for media and information

>Control the sources and evaluation

>Force the non-controlled sources to make way for your will with 'evaluation' - followed by the sheep herds of consumers

And there you have it. TV, Radio...

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 No.2331

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 No.2332

>>2270

Do you guys imagine games to be effective at creating social impulses in children? I think so, it's very frightening.

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 No.2398

>>2332

If the game has clear intentions to do so then yes. No kid got into the army because of halo because they knew it was fantasy, but I see that a lot of people from my gen (millennial) have been influenced by propaganda we were given as kids which in retrospective was engineered for that purpose and little else

Think captain planet: none of the enemies/bad guys are pro-nature (to represent some real bad environuts like the ALF) nor are any of the good-guys industrialists with a sustainability angle. No, its all clear-cut nature and industry, there is no middle point, you were either a planeteer or one of the evil guys pushing for technology and industry thus killing mother earth/gaia

Like most of us barely cared but now I see the consequences of this

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 No.2479

>>2332

what is ludology?

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 No.937 [Open Thread]

This may initially seem like an off-topic discussion, but consider the following:

Art is an expression of the ideas of it's maker. It varies according to trends and cultural values. Old civilizations can be studied through their art, and current artists often represent our views of the future. Art is a cultural (and therefore both social and psychological) element of a society.

So I want to know, what do you consider art? How do you define it? What is its purpose, and what should its purpose be?
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 No.982

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>>980
Marshall McLuhan is so relevant to this board. He deserves his own thread started by someone smarter than me.
He was a sociologist/philosopher/what have you who wrote about the blossoming information age through the 50's and 60's. He coined the term "the global village". One of his major points was that "the medium is the message". In this he is referring to a communications medium, something like newspaper, online news, image boards, etc: the meta-packaging for communications contents. The message is the substance being communicated, this is a little more straightforward.

So he was saying that in the post modern era, with the ubiquity and speed and even centralization of information, the medium becomes more important than the substance of communication. Think style over substance. Think really meta, about context and signifiers, like what does it mean that there is a psychopolitics board on an imageboard made by a 19 year old man who lives in the Philippines, it might even be more interesting than what we post about here, in a different way. Maybe a poor example but it's something.

Here's how wiki describes it, better than I did
>The phrase was introduced in his most widely known book, Understanding Media: The Extensions of Man, published in 1964.[1] McLuhan proposes that a medium itself, not the content it carries, should be the focus of study. He said that a medium affects the society in which it plays a role not only by the content delivered over the medium, but also by the characteristics of the medium itself.

>McLuhan frequently punned on the word "message", changing it to "mass age", "mess age", and "massage"; a later book, The Medium Is the Massage was originally to be titled The Medium is the Message, but McLuhan preferred the new title, which is said to have been a printing error.


You know how some politicians who are gifted public speakers will smile and nod while saying something really shitty, and people miss what's actually being said and how it will effect them? The medium is the message.

Everyone who is interested in this board would benefit from reading his wiki and following the links to familiarize yourself with his communications theories. There is so much more and it is so prescient.
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 No.2242

I little off topic, but crazies hide their subversive views by expressing them as aethetic theory

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 No.2267

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>>976

>>978

In my opinion to subdivide what you call ideology into three subgroups.

1. Pandering. Give the consumers what they ask for. Oversexualization goes here, as does sustainable design and heroin dealing.

2. Ideology pushing. Unwanted (but not necessarily actively disliked) elements in a product or art piece that promote an ideology.

3. Deceptive pandering. Tricks the consumer into wanting something. This would be the domain of apparently eco-friendly products, of opium laced noodles (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/24/world/asia/china-noodles/)

In my experience, subversives attack Pandering, which they want to replace with Ideology Pushing. I guess it depends on what you see as subversive.

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 No.2446

>>978

>Anyway, click the image and tilt the screen back. If you still can't see it let me know and I'll tell you.

What is it?

Not being able to figuring it out made me think of another, maybe related pic.

http://www.panshin.com/critics/Renshaw/rengraph/mysterylarge.jpg

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 No.2448

>>2446

The sticky used to have an image listing some of the boards related to /32/, and on the spaces between the lines and words there where hidden phrases like "QUESTION EVERYTHING", "INFORMATION IS POWER" and "CHOOSE FOR YOURSELF".

The banner that is just a /32/ on a grey background has the question "ARE YOU PAYING ATTENTION?" on it.

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 No.574 [Open Thread]

look
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 No.1028

>>1027
(I'm the same poster)
Well, I just listened to it out of curiosity. It's boring. There's a steady beat drum similar to what you'd have in an action movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS4zYWxzNA

Listen to the drum line once music starts to really kick in. Now imagine it's a few times faster and you've got the drums rythm from the song I am a Robot.

Then you've got a robotic voice saying I am a robot repeatedly. when you reach the 3:00 mark he stops saying "I am a Robot" but the drums continue. This happens for a like 30 seconds and then the robot continues to say "I am a Robot.

Now, throughout thr entire 6 minutes imagine the drum beat and then add in some futuristic sounds(beeping noises, keyboards being touched).

There are a few unsettling notes that are played every once in a while throughout the song. They gave me goosebumps.

At 2:40 there is a voice saying something. I can't quite understand what he's saying. It's the voice of a man as if he was speaking through a radio. This happens a few times, but he always says something different.

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 No.1553

>>1028

>faggot hears old electro song for the first time

>"OH MY GOD 2 SPOOPY CONSPIRACY"

It's the most basic-bitch electro-breaks I've ever heard, and you're talking about it like it's a damn conspiracy.

If you think breaks is anything but cheesy, I'd love to see your reaction to Minimal Techno, Breakcore, or Neurofunk.

Posting to give anon a spoopy attack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFWrvSgb5CE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSxhiNpgiuE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTPflw2vogM

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 No.1554

AI reached human-parity a while ago

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 No.2420

>>579

I know this was way way back but it has piqued my interests. Does anyone have an archive of the puzzle posts/ thread of people trying to solve it? thanks

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 No.2429

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>>576

I swear I saw a bunch of gibberish like this over on /pol right after the video "with open gates" and before the Paris attacks. After the Paris attacks the junk stopped. I assumed it was some sort of attempt at brute forcing the site for spammers.

>>1554

What source do you have for that other than a guess?

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 No.2415 [Open Thread]

So, hypothetically speaking, which books would educate on the subject of manipulation of the people around you with the specific intent of Cult building.

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 No.2426

>>2415

Sorry, I was really interested in cults for a time about a year ago but I have no idea what the books I read were called. Aum Shinrikyo is a good cult to research if you're looking for education on the matter.

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