/32/ - Psychopolitics

yes they're trying to take advantage of the streisand effect, but like all cheap ploys it will burn out and they will have to find more complex methods for enticing an increasingly cynical, jaded and attention diffuse populace

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>>3647

Hilarious that a female character would have a primary weapon with "Truth" in its name, while real flesh and blood women lie incessantly.

>>3755

Not in my experience...

I had downloaded some films recently, because I used to watch a lot of movies. The movies I'll comment on are The Shape of Water (2017) and Taxi Driver (1976) (for old times sake, I'd seen it before).

Taxi Driver is a great story, except for the fact that there's a lot of 'nam veteran crap in movies from those times. I guess that's just something that was in the heads of people at best or at worst some way to relate to audience. Also Robert de Niro is "shaped" by it, but I couldn't spot any real manipulating "assumptions" like they do nowadays. No subtle rewritings of history that I could find. Good movie.

Next up: The Shape of Water.

spoiler alert. I'm kidding, there's nothing to "spoil" about this piece of shit.

Setting is somewhere mid or second half of 20th century (because of those "soviet assholes" who play one of the enemies, a subject I'll touch later on), no internet, etc. The lead is some "latina" who can't talk. She can hear though. At first there's a scene of her masturbating every morning in the bathtub, which triggers my feminism radar. Why is it necessary to show that she does it every morning? (the movie shows the loop she lives in, which supports the narrative.) To show that she's lonely? I think the fact that she can't talk, only communicates with her neighbor and 1 black colleague (which I will talk about in a sec) and the fact that she lives alone are all clear signs of her being lonely. So why else would the movie display such "graphic" content. I think to make it look like it was already something that's normal and something not to be frowned upon in that day and age. That women should not feel ashamed to fuck themselves every day. She goes to work with some stereotypical has-her-hart-in-the-right-place-but-still-funny black woman. She supports her mute colleague and they clean together every day. Which presupposes blacks and "latinos" (in quotes because she's more like spanish than south-american) where hanging out together all the time in that time period. Which makes it reasonable to assume it's supposed to be that way (as a viewer), and you should not discriminate. Her neighbor is a gay pot smoking semi-old man who tries to be gay in a time where it wasn't that easy. His life isn't easy as he's in between jobs and gets fucked ovPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>3786

You must not hang around a lot of women.

Your markov bot needs more training

>>3744

using words like "cryptojuggalo" will get you put on a watch list, be careful!

>>3744

she looks like icarly girl

is the board owner doesnt remove this bot then the whole board is lost

>>3850

The board owner watched so much Rick & Morty that he became a nihilist and stopped caring about psychopolitics.

Mathis is just an avatar for a think tank

>>3723

Not the same anon, but I am also a trained artist and feel that I can pick up the ball on the previous statements. There is a certain organic nature that should flow in the composition of a piece of art. To explain this in another manner: there should be a universal "language" of design in any compitent composition that ties together the themes of a piece along with its style and message. Many of the pieces this artist produces seem like hack jobs of classic art and modern photography that simply do not mash together or having glaring flaws in composition. This is not to say that the artists writing do not carry a significant weight. However, topically speaking, an artists work is usually an extension of who they are and flaws in artistic composition (wether technical or thematic) can show a subtle underhanded attempt at emulation of other works by other artists:if an artist is merely emulating the styles of another in their work and not being true to themselves then I would think any expression of political doctrine by the artist may also be critically flawed and not a representation of the artists true opinions.

>>3733

Original fake identifier here.

This was not what I meant at all, but nice job taking the opportunity to try to redirect the critique ;-)

i want everything he says to be bullshit because he said the nazi regime was all bullshit

>>3849

You're already mentally murdered if you have sentimental attachment to that shit.

is OP a slipknot fan?

>>3851

Would fit with his mental retardation.

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>>2568

God, this is dumb.

I love it!

>>2568

/32/ used to be somewhat intelligent. Now... I wouldn't be surprised if a pizzagate thread popped up out of the blue.

God, I miss the old 8chan.

>>3259

Why would we want to discuss PG here? We already have a sticky on pol and the investigation is going well.

>>2651

"ass and mo ass"

this is very evil

>>2568

Evil is a partiality, something incomplete. In the flesh evil exists because the flesh is an imperfect creation. But the nucleus is spiritual. Evil is temporary.

>>1171

Well, it's an interesting thought.

But, perhaps chans are the intellectual waste-baskets, quarantine zones. As what can be said, is taken over here. That's not to say what's said here is of no value, by no means, but it is not marketable, it has no say in the economy.

It's subversive, an aggregate of rebellious spirits. It's not a monolithic cabal who can sway generations of TV watchers. I think internet-people, like you, and myself, often over-estimate our ability to influence.

Sure, the internet may like our jokes, our funny pictures, but humor correlates with the qualities that are on display here. What influence the chans have had is benign, and is easily drowned out by the next trend.

SJW is the Brave New World component of psychological control, it's the feminine aspect whereas 1984 is the masculine, considering authoritarian measures, take the military industrial complex. It's always been a union of these two.

This has already begun on reddit. Join the party if you can stomach it.

>>2460

m8, is your purpose to free "the people" of ignorance? Because that's never going to happen. The 10% should be the focus group. Intelligent people are way more likely to achieve a higher status, AKA power. That power can be used to create tools that implement truths and shift public opinion eventually. Also without active involvement of the 10%, shifts in upper class culture flows down to middle class, after which upper class culture changes again. Torstein Veblen has written an interesting book on it called Theory of the Leisure Class. The book is famous for coining "conspicuous consumption", but the whole idea of consuming conspicuously (in which lower class, middle class and teenage children are passionately involved) flowed down from the upper class (which he called the leisure class back then). But that type is not popular anymore among upper class spheres, maybe just the nouveau riche.

Point being, changing public opinion involves a natural flow of the upper class downward. So when intelligent people (who essentially rule) are influenced, its just a matter of time before that "truth" gets a space in public opinion.

>>3707

Architecture shapes the mind of the public.

>>3707

"the European identity" is a deconstruction of the various peoples of the European continent into a singular mass.

>>3707

>>3713

Are you implying the conceptual work of Étienne Louis Boullée is garish, of vain grandiose expression, gimmicky, and void of utility?

>>3707

There's an interesting argument that architectural themes in some way represent the cultural idea of a people. I'd agree that the meaningless form of postmodern architecture mirrors the growing nihilism or emptiness of modern Western culture (postmodernism progressing and spreading with the quickening of Western decline). Not a cultured anon so sorry if this is a bit vague.

Related article:

https://theimaginativeconservative.org/2019/01/where-beauty-buildings-jake-scott.html

Science explains the how, while religion provides the why. While the institutions of religion (Roman Catholic church, etc.) can and have at times been subverted to means of mass control, the origin of religion is Man's desire for transcendence. For Abrahamic faiths (I'll say Christianity here), 'the afterlife' is just describing an eternal union (Heaven) or eternal separation (Hell) with the Creator upon death. Basically, we're trying to explain in finite, material terms what we believe happens in the infinite, metaphysical.

>>3706

Not disagreeing, but to add I think that the attraction to religion depends on the individual. While the afterlife is a motive based in an individual's fear of death and the unknown, I'd think that the prime draw to religion is an explanation for why we're here in the first place.

It’s a lot easier to hijack something than to fabricate it. Instead of inventing a totally non-existent character of Jesus Christ and selling that product to the masses, it makes more sense that the authorities would consolidate already existing paradigms into a single system. The purpose of such a system would be to portray these authorities as divinely sanctioned.

Assimilated paradigms included Mithraism, Greek Neo-Platonism, and Judaism. For instance, the solar/zodiacal elements in Christianity came from Mithraism and related pagan systems. But these are just auxiliary additions, not the core nucleus of Christianity. The nucleus is the original Christian system, which existed alongside the other elements prior to their combined assimilation into an organized religion.

All of these elements were then glued together by the authors of the New Testament, who added various rationalizations, logical sleights of hand, fabricated backstory, and gaudy superstitious elements to create a belief system that would appeal to the widest audience. The Gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke, and John were variations of the same story further customized for Greek, Jewish, and Roman audiences.

Thus the New Testament is a patchwork of truth and lies. The original pre-assimilation Christianity is buried in there somewhere. How can it be found? By stripping away the rationalizations, sleights of hand, superstitious miracles, pagan symbolism, etc… This is done the same way one approaches any potential source of disinformation; you look for logical fallacies and attempts at persuasion that would play into a negative agenda

>>3831

When those are removed, only the following remain:

The wisdom-teachings of Jesus, including sayings and parables. These do not benefit any human authority, their spiritual worth is self-evident, and they correlate with metaphysical/occult principles.

The Sermon on the Mount, in which Jesus gave Buddhist-like alternatives to the ignorant form of morality and justice espoused in the Old Testament. The spiritual truth of these is also self-evident, or at least testable and observable in life.

Stories of Jesus healing people and casting out demons. These “miracles” are entirely performable by anyone today with the proper knowledge. Healing and negative entity removal are common practices. Contrast this with walking on water, turning water into wine, or bread into fish, which are cheap tricks inserted by the New Testament authors to wow the superstitious.

>>2437

It's always easier to hijack an idea if its adherents are used to believing it over reason. That's the role religion plays in manipulation.

If you have the Pope declaring that all Christians are spiritually jewish this is true, but "redpilled" Christians disregard this as much as they can then you'll have less Christians willing to oppose Judaism.

>>3777

Normalizing audio doesn't have any detrimental effects. In music and video, it's an important step that makes it so that the end consumer doesn't have to adjust their speaker volume from song to song and scene to scene. It's essentially just a method of audio level standardization.

Dynamics processing as mentioned by >>3778 is meant to control sounds which are too loud and make quiet sounds louder and more audible. Overuse of it can definitely cause unnatural effects. I'd say that would be the work of an unskilled audio producer.

What you're referring to sounds more like the use of sound effects and foley in general. Producers tend to make everyday noises audible because it makes it more immersive. The more immersed you are, the more you watch. Same thing with music in TV shows. A well-crafted, attention grabbing piece of media will have realistic ambient noise (varies depending on the scene and setting), audibly-pleasing sound effects, and music that carries you from scene to scene and emotion to emotion.

A good example of this would be to watch an episode of the british version of Kitchen Nightmares, which has no music and sound effects, and compare it to the american version which is loaded with it. It's much easier to tear your attention away from the british version since it's not affecting your physiology to the same degree as the american version, which is more immersive and exciting. The motivation for using effects in this case is simply to keep people watching a certain show, but the same tactics can be used to hypnotic effect.

i know what you mean, i'm fucking disgusted when im in the cinema and they have some dumb bitch whisper her lines, then they turn it all the way up and you can hear the spit ruminate in her mouth, like bitch SPEAK UP i can hear what you ATE for lunch. its obviously not how people speak and maybe just desensizites you to mouth breathing ways. its farfetched though i think its just a result of the dropped quality of everything involving this stuff

You mean making everything louder in music, etc? Yeah. Ignore the dribbling retards in this thread talking about something else entirely.

The massive amounts of bass and just the loudness of the music as standard contributes to listener fatigue. Look up the side effects of it. Tiredness, more docile, etc.

Almost all popular music (chart music) has massive bass probably because of this. I mean, you can say it's just coincidence but even in the 90's when the loudness shit really took off it was happening then too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Listener_fatigue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auditory_fatigue

>>3785

It's not that the sound effects themselves are over-amplified, at times it feels as if the entire audio stream was downsampled or mastered on piss-poor equipment.

Best I can describe it as sounding akin to low bitrate lossy audio coding artifacts, but with a bit of CRT static mixed in.

Trash like Notruf Hafenkante and other dumb shit aimed senile boomers age 65 and up seems to be most affected by this, although the German dub of the original Blade Runner and several other normalfag movies show the same thing.

Is it something that's only done OTA? Found an old home taped VHS of the 5th element from the early 2000s and it has this audio weirdness too albeit applied in a more uniform manner while BDrips and Jewtube clips do not.

Don't think it's my TV, its speakers provide fairly standard quality when watching pirated anime or playing gaymes.

>we have a strict no ban policy

oh boy

Oh no boy

>>3763

I think this claim is retarded, change it now

>>3768

Shopped, I can tell by the pixels

>>3765

No way, this is gonna be way more intense

>>3772

irrelevant, you don't get any points.

>>3771

good point, OP should tip you

>>3762

OP you're doing god's work, I'll fund this investigation